Re: [web2py] Re: GAE & Python 2.7 update

2011-11-05 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Nov 5, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

> I know I said otherwise before but perhaps we should continue to
> default to 2.5 until App Launcher supports 2.7

I think so, yes.

> 
> On Nov 5, 1:28 pm, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
>> I thought I'd pass on my recent experience deploying an app to GAE with 
>> Python 2.7. My motivation was the new features available, in particular 
>> concurrent requests and WSGI operation, and secondarily some other 
>> performance improvements (like the native JSON library). 
>> Seehttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/python27/newin27.htmlfor 
>> more info.
>> 
>> There are a couple of downsides.
>> 
>> 1. The App Launcher doesn't support 2.7 yet, so you need to deploy from the 
>> command line. I'm not entirely clear on whether there's any way at all to 
>> run a 2.7 app locally.
>> 
>> 2. You must use the High Replication datastore. That's not necessarily a bad 
>> thing, but a) it's more expensive (if you have enough traffic to be paying), 
>> and b) run_in_transaction only works with ancestor queries, which the DAL 
>> does not support.
>> 
>> Fortunately, my db requirements aren't too complicated, and I was able to 
>> put all my db accesses behind a class that allowed me to talk to the 
>> datastore through its native API while preserving compatibility with DAL on 
>> other servers. (There were some other advantages to doing this, and it was 
>> an interesting learning experience.)
>> 
>> The trunk's app.example.yaml defaults to 2.7; that part was fairly simple 
>> (it supports 2.5 as well; just change some commenting-out stuff).
>> 
>> I like the way GAE is going, and I really like being able to deploy an app 
>> in the cloud without having to become a sysadmin.




[web2py] Re: GAE & Python 2.7 update

2011-11-05 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
I know I said otherwise before but perhaps we should continue to
default to 2.5 until App Launcher supports 2.7

On Nov 5, 1:28 pm, Jonathan Lundell  wrote:
> I thought I'd pass on my recent experience deploying an app to GAE with 
> Python 2.7. My motivation was the new features available, in particular 
> concurrent requests and WSGI operation, and secondarily some other 
> performance improvements (like the native JSON library). 
> Seehttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/python27/newin27.htmlfor more 
> info.
>
> There are a couple of downsides.
>
> 1. The App Launcher doesn't support 2.7 yet, so you need to deploy from the 
> command line. I'm not entirely clear on whether there's any way at all to run 
> a 2.7 app locally.
>
> 2. You must use the High Replication datastore. That's not necessarily a bad 
> thing, but a) it's more expensive (if you have enough traffic to be paying), 
> and b) run_in_transaction only works with ancestor queries, which the DAL 
> does not support.
>
> Fortunately, my db requirements aren't too complicated, and I was able to put 
> all my db accesses behind a class that allowed me to talk to the datastore 
> through its native API while preserving compatibility with DAL on other 
> servers. (There were some other advantages to doing this, and it was an 
> interesting learning experience.)
>
> The trunk's app.example.yaml defaults to 2.7; that part was fairly simple (it 
> supports 2.5 as well; just change some commenting-out stuff).
>
> I like the way GAE is going, and I really like being able to deploy an app in 
> the cloud without having to become a sysadmin.