Re: [web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-26 Thread Vasile Ermicioi

 Realistically Django is probably the safer option if you are on the fence.
 It's more widely used and has more resources available.


Following your logic, they should migrate to PHP :) - it's more widely used
and has more resources available.

web2py works well out of the box and is used by a lot of people, is backward
compatible,
and his core functionality (dal, views, ) is very stable and there was many
cycles in bug fixing (almost every 1-2  weeks)

At this point, I think Web2py needs a champion to work out well.


I think you are really, really wrong, this is about to say about django, I
couldn't get started with it because there was not an expert around to help
me
Newbies can very quickly get started with web2py, and it is very
intuitively,
and you will hardly find a more friendly mailing list than that, Massimo
itself will help you if you have troubles

I will be happy to read their views, especially in management,

deployment and DAL / ORM



deployment: cgi, fcgi, wsgi, standalone (has his own webserver)

I use dal with rpc services(amf and xml) in a few Flex projects

'models/db.py'
db.define_table('t1', Field('f1))

'controllers/gateway.py'
def call():
return service()

@service.xmlrpc
@service.amfrpc('myservice'
def get_list():
return db(db.t1).select().as_list()

and you have both xmlrpc and amfrpc services,
I think this is even not documented (that you can use both at the same time)

and if there are errors in services , there are error tickets that helps me
to find and fix bugs


Re: [web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-26 Thread Lars Hansson
Yeah, but if everyone sits around waiting for the champion to appear
there won't be one. Someone has to take the plunge.

Cheers,
Lars Hansson


Re: [web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-26 Thread Thadeus Burgess
web2py = programmers framework
django = designers framework

Do you have more designers or programmers?
--
Thadeus




On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Lars Hansson romaby...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, but if everyone sits around waiting for the champion to appear
 there won't be one. Someone has to take the plunge.

 Cheers,
 Lars Hansson



Re: [web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-26 Thread Alfonso de la Guarda
As I said we have already developed applications in both framework and
both have great benefits, personally despite being a Python for 10
years, I prefer web2py, yet I feel that there are (in market) a
particular tendency to deify django and this thread is me providing
relevant arguments and information.
I love web2py, it management since 2007, but when my developers (who
have all been students of mine) evolve, they tend to prefer django
arguing that many components already exist and is faster and better.

One thing that worries me is the issue of scalability, for example,
this project will work with django or web2py, but no large deployments
web2py to bringing information on how to behave in environments where
there are 50 Requests per second with the problems associated with
using a transactional model in a web where there is more effective
solutions as working layers NoSQL reading (how are we going with
this?).
I was just lucky enough to work on trying to fix some problems in my
country a website done in django and I was terrified with the design
of the BD, where the home only 212 queries were developed for each
request, to climb it, this communications leader, was almost 1 year to
fix it.
Now we are working very special portals for Yell to Tornado (using the
framework) and MongoDB and are more than happy, we have 750 Requests
per second (in a simple athlon2 with 4 GB of RAM)! Ilove to to have
this in django or web2py , but its scope is different in this new
project and we appeal to them .


Saludos,


Alfonso de la Guarda
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 02:00, Jason Brower encomp...@gmail.com wrote:
 You will probably know what I would say being the web2py list and all, but a
 bit of information about your project may help sway the choice one way or
 the other.
 BR,
 Jason

 On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Alfonso de la Guarda wrote:

 Hi,


 My development team is in a debate about which framework to employ,
 half like web2py and other like django. I found it interesting because
 we used both in projects and everything has worked out well, however,
 for this particular project must choose one of them.
 As an architect I have the power to choose the framework, but I would
 support it in more technical reasons, so that by sharing experiences,
 I will be happy to read their views, especially in management,
 deployment and DAL / ORM


 Saludos,

 
 Alfonso de la Guarda
 Centro Open Source(COS)
 http://www.cos-la.net
 http://alfonsodg.net
    Telef. 991935157
 1024D/B23B24A4
 5469 ED92 75A3 BBDB FD6B  58A5 54A1 851D B23B 24A4



[web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-25 Thread Alfonso de la Guarda
Hi,


My development team is in a debate about which framework to employ,
half like web2py and other like django. I found it interesting because
we used both in projects and everything has worked out well, however,
for this particular project must choose one of them.
As an architect I have the power to choose the framework, but I would
support it in more technical reasons, so that by sharing experiences,
I will be happy to read their views, especially in management,
deployment and DAL / ORM


Saludos,


Alfonso de la Guarda
Centro Open Source(COS)
http://www.cos-la.net
http://alfonsodg.net
   Telef. 991935157
1024D/B23B24A4
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Re: [web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-25 Thread Jason Brower
You will probably know what I would say being the web2py list and all, but 
a bit of information about your project may help sway the choice one way 
or the other.

BR,
Jason

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Alfonso de la Guarda wrote:


Hi,


My development team is in a debate about which framework to employ,
half like web2py and other like django. I found it interesting because
we used both in projects and everything has worked out well, however,
for this particular project must choose one of them.
As an architect I have the power to choose the framework, but I would
support it in more technical reasons, so that by sharing experiences,
I will be happy to read their views, especially in management,
deployment and DAL / ORM


Saludos,


Alfonso de la Guarda
Centro Open Source(COS)
http://www.cos-la.net
http://alfonsodg.net
   Telef. 991935157
1024D/B23B24A4
5469 ED92 75A3 BBDB FD6B  58A5 54A1 851D B23B 24A4



Re: [web2py] Why web2py? and not django?

2011-01-25 Thread pbreit
Realistically Django is probably the safer option if you are on the fence. 
It's more widely used and has more resources available. At this point, I 
think Web2py needs a champion to work out well.