Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2014-08-15 Thread Mark Li
Was the duplicate ID's bug ever fixed or addressed with an optional prefix 
field? It currently looks like I would have to manually alter all the ID's 
of my auth.login() form, because auth.register() form is on the same page.

On Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:17:14 PM UTC-8, Jonathan Lundell wrote:

 On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:

  Doesn't javascript input serialization expect to look the field up by id?

 There's nothing *wrong* with having an id; it just needs to be unique on 
 the page.

  
  it should be
  
  form = id = formname class=formname:
input:
   class = formname
   id = formname_field
  
  #formname input { ... }
  #formname #formname_users_email { ... }
  #formname .formname { ... }
  
  This would give a lot more flexibility from both a CSS design and a UI
  design using jquery selection.
  
  -Thadeus
  
  
  
  
  
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Lundell jlun...@pobox.com 
 javascript: wrote:
  On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
  
  if it was defaulted to None we could go
  
  if _id == None then id = tablename else id = _id
  
  Id accept that, just set a unique id for each of my forms and nothing
  will conflict and it will still keep good with old apps.
  
  And _id = False for no id at all.
  
  It's not that it isn't useful to put all of them into the same class; 
 it's that class is the right way to do it, rather than id.
  
  
  
  -Thadeus
  
  
  
  
  
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wes James comp...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:
  Why not:
  
   form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)
  
  -wes
  
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdip...@cs.depaul.edu 
 javascript: wrote:
  The ids are only used for CSS. you can do
  
  form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
  form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
  form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
  form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
  return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)
  
  and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
  second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.
  
  Massimo
  
  
  
  snip




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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Thadeus Burgess
On this same topic when you define an SQLFORM.factory() it appends
'no_table' as the name.

Would it be difficult to add a way to pass a tablename to factory, so that
my CSS will stay logical when I use SQLFORM or SQLFORM.factory?

-Thadeus




On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do

 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)

 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.

 Massimo


 On Jan 27, 12:23 am, Jeremy Dillworth jdillwo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm building an app where I am likely to want multiple SQLFORMs on the
  same view.
 
  Reading the manual I can see how this works using the formname
  argument on the SQLFORM.accepts method.
 
  I'm a little concerned about the HTML side of things, though. I've
  noticed that the HTML generated by default contains lots ids that will
  be duplicates if you have multiple forms (e.g. tr
  id=submit_record__row).
 
I'll probably want to write custom forms in my own HTML in the long-
  run anyway, but it looks like a lot of these ids could be CSS classes
  and maybe save me some trouble in cases where the SQLFORM default HTML
  is otherwise 'good enough' (in fact I've been having some fun and have
  a short function using xml.dom.minidom.parseString to move the ids to
  the class attribute and it seems to work ok).
 
  Is there any reason why the ids are needed (other than CSS perhaps)?
 
  If not, any chance of a future version of web2py using these as
  classnames?
 
  Thanks in advance and thanks for a cool web framework,
 
  Jeremy

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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Thadeus Burgess
while im working on getting a patch together.

did you decide on how we want to handle markdown/__init__.py ?

-Thadeus




On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:00 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:

 No objection. send me a patch.

 On Jan 27, 9:45 am, Thadeus Burgess thade...@thadeusb.com wrote:
  On this same topic when you define an SQLFORM.factory() it appends
  'no_table' as the name.
 
  Would it be difficult to add a way to pass a tablename to factory, so
 that
  my CSS will stay logical when I use SQLFORM or SQLFORM.factory?
 
  -Thadeus
 
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu
 wrote:
   The ids are only used for CSS. you can do
 
   form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
   form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
   form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
   form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
   return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)
 
   and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
   second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.
 
   Massimo
 
   On Jan 27, 12:23 am, Jeremy Dillworth jdillwo...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm building an app where I am likely to want multiple SQLFORMs on
 the
same view.
 
Reading the manual I can see how this works using the formname
argument on the SQLFORM.accepts method.
 
I'm a little concerned about the HTML side of things, though. I've
noticed that the HTML generated by default contains lots ids that
 will
be duplicates if you have multiple forms (e.g. tr
id=submit_record__row).
 
  I'll probably want to write custom forms in my own HTML in the
 long-
run anyway, but it looks like a lot of these ids could be CSS classes
and maybe save me some trouble in cases where the SQLFORM default
 HTML
is otherwise 'good enough' (in fact I've been having some fun and
 have
a short function using xml.dom.minidom.parseString to move the ids to
the class attribute and it seems to work ok).
 
Is there any reason why the ids are needed (other than CSS perhaps)?
 
If not, any chance of a future version of web2py using these as
classnames?
 
Thanks in advance and thanks for a cool web framework,
 
Jeremy
 
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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Bugs must be squashed!

You said so yourself a bug is not to be backwards compatible.

This isn't really a bug but a design oversight, since it was
figured two forms with the same field would never reside on the same
page.

I too have use for multiple same named fields, but since it doesn't
break browsers and the app is internal I have not bothered with w3c
validation.

Then again, I have lots of CSS that is based around the ID field, so
for me it requires making lots of little changes, so I am not
supporting this change lightly, but being a bug and in the spirit of
making web2py force w3c validity as much as possible I support it.

-Thadeus





On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:45 PM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 I agree it is a bug that ids may not be unique. Yet fixing this will
 break backward compatibility.
 Perhaps we can add the same strings to the class attribute without
 breaking backward compatibility but we should not remove them from id.
 What do people think?

 On Jan 27, 1:36 pm, Jeremy Dillworth jdillwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks. But I wasn't too concerned about ambiguity in the CSS. I was
 more concerned about there being duplicate IDs in the DOM. The w3c
 HTML validator flags this kind of thing as a problem. As far as I know
 it doesn't create a problem in any current browser (other than making
 document.getElementById useless), but since these IDs are only used
 for CSS, wouldn't it be safer to move these labels into the class
 attributes and modify the default stylesheets as needed?

 Thanks

 Jeremy

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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:45 AM, mdipierro wrote:

 I agree it is a bug that ids may not be unique. Yet fixing this will
 break backward compatibility.
 Perhaps we can add the same strings to the class attribute without
 breaking backward compatibility but we should not remove them from id.
 What do people think?

It's better than not doing it. But duplicate IDs is bad. If you serve an xhtml 
page as xhtml (rather than as html), and it has duplicate IDs, the browser will 
not display it. Period.

I question whether backward compatibility needs to extend to propagating bugs. 


 
 On Jan 27, 1:36 pm, Jeremy Dillworth jdillwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks. But I wasn't too concerned about ambiguity in the CSS. I was
 more concerned about there being duplicate IDs in the DOM. The w3c
 HTML validator flags this kind of thing as a problem. As far as I know
 it doesn't create a problem in any current browser (other than making
 document.getElementById useless), but since these IDs are only used
 for CSS, wouldn't it be safer to move these labels into the class
 attributes and modify the default stylesheets as needed?
 
 Thanks
 
 Jeremy


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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Wes James
Why not:

 form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)

-wes

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do

 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)

 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.

 Massimo



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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Thadeus Burgess
if it was defaulted to None we could go

if _id == None then id = tablename else id = _id

Id accept that, just set a unique id for each of my forms and nothing
will conflict and it will still keep good with old apps.

-Thadeus





On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wes James compte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not:

  form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)

 -wes

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do

 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)

 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.

 Massimo



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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:

 if it was defaulted to None we could go
 
 if _id == None then id = tablename else id = _id
 
 Id accept that, just set a unique id for each of my forms and nothing
 will conflict and it will still keep good with old apps.

And _id = False for no id at all.

It's not that it isn't useful to put all of them into the same class; it's that 
class is the right way to do it, rather than id. 


 
 -Thadeus
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wes James compte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not:
 
  form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)
 
 -wes
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do
 
 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)
 
 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.
 
 Massimo
 
 
 
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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Doesn't javascript input serialization expect to look the field up by id?

it should be

form = id = formname class=formname:
   input:
  class = formname
  id = formname_field

#formname input { ... }
#formname #formname_users_email { ... }
#formname .formname { ... }

This would give a lot more flexibility from both a CSS design and a UI
design using jquery selection.

-Thadeus





On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:

 if it was defaulted to None we could go

 if _id == None then id = tablename else id = _id

 Id accept that, just set a unique id for each of my forms and nothing
 will conflict and it will still keep good with old apps.

 And _id = False for no id at all.

 It's not that it isn't useful to put all of them into the same class; it's 
 that class is the right way to do it, rather than id.



 -Thadeus





 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wes James compte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not:

  form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)

 -wes

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do

 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)

 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.

 Massimo



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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Doesn't javascript input serialization expect to look the field up by id?

form = id = formname class=formname:
   input:
  class = formname
  id = formname_field

#formname input { ... }
#formname #formname_users_email { ... }
#formname .formname { ... }

-Thadeus





On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:

 if it was defaulted to None we could go

 if _id == None then id = tablename else id = _id

 Id accept that, just set a unique id for each of my forms and nothing
 will conflict and it will still keep good with old apps.

 And _id = False for no id at all.

 It's not that it isn't useful to put all of them into the same class; it's 
 that class is the right way to do it, rather than id.



 -Thadeus





 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wes James compte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not:

  form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)

 -wes

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do

 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)

 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.

 Massimo



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Re: [web2py] Re: SQLFORM generating duplicate ids in HTML

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Jan 27, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:

 Doesn't javascript input serialization expect to look the field up by id?

There's nothing *wrong* with having an id; it just needs to be unique on the 
page.

 
 it should be
 
 form = id = formname class=formname:
   input:
  class = formname
  id = formname_field
 
 #formname input { ... }
 #formname #formname_users_email { ... }
 #formname .formname { ... }
 
 This would give a lot more flexibility from both a CSS design and a UI
 design using jquery selection.
 
 -Thadeus
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Lundell jlund...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
 
 if it was defaulted to None we could go
 
 if _id == None then id = tablename else id = _id
 
 Id accept that, just set a unique id for each of my forms and nothing
 will conflict and it will still keep good with old apps.
 
 And _id = False for no id at all.
 
 It's not that it isn't useful to put all of them into the same class; it's 
 that class is the right way to do it, rather than id.
 
 
 
 -Thadeus
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Wes James compte...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not:
 
  form1=SQLFORM(..., _id=what_you_want)
 
 -wes
 
 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:31 AM, mdipierro mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu wrote:
 The ids are only used for CSS. you can do
 
 form1=SQLFORM(...,_class='form1')
 form1.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 form2=SQLFORM(...,_class='form2')
 form2.accepts(request.post_vars,formname=None)
 return dict(form1=form1,form2=form2)
 
 and you can use the class to refer to the id of the first or the
 second in CSS. There should be no ambiguity.
 
 Massimo
 
 
 
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