Re: [webkit-dev] Ruby Text Enhancements

2010-10-06 Thread Eric Mader

On Oct 5, 2010, at 6:25 PM, David Hyatt wrote:

 On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Eric Mader wrote:
 
 
 On Sep 24, 2010, at 8:02 PM, David Hyatt wrote:
 
 This is a tough problem.  It seems like you have to get involved in the 
 line layout code e.g., findNextLineBreak in order to really do the right 
 thing.  findNextLineBreak uses an iterator that walks the objects, so it's 
 easier to tell what text came before you and what text comes after you.  
 You can also tell whether or not that text will even fit on the line and 
 possibly do the margin hacking there.
 
 I just did a prototype that checks for a RenderRubyRun in the isReplaced() 
 code inside findNextLineBreak and calls a method on the RenderRubyRun that 
 takes the last and the next object and sets negative margins by calling 
 setMarginLeft() and setMarginRight(). I stepped through this code and it 
 computes the correct margins, but the margins don't seem to take - the ruby 
 doesn't overlap the surrounding text.
 
 Guessing that some other code is resetting the margins, I modified the code 
 to cache the computed margins in the RenderRubyRun object and return the 
 cached values through subclassed marginLeft() and marginRight() methods. 
 With this change, the ruby displays as I would expect.
 
 It's probably RenderBlockLineLayout line 348 getting you in trouble 
 (computeInlineDirectionPositionsForLine).  computeLogicalWidth is called 
 again, and that will recompute the left/right margins and blow away the 
 changes you made to them.  I have no idea why that call is there.  It should 
 not be necessary, but maybe there's something subtle I'm missing.  You could 
 try removing it, and see if that fixes the problem (it should).

Yes, that did the trick! I haven't noticed any obvious problems with that line 
removed, but I haven't done much testing yet.

 dave
 (hy...@apple.com)

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[webkit-dev] Build slave: requesting username/password pairs

2010-10-06 Thread Leandro Pereira
Hi.

I've setup a machine to run as as a build bot for the EFL port. Instructions
in the wiki says I should ask for a username/password pair here, so here I
am.

The necessary configuration to be sent to build.webkit.org was submitted as
a patch on bug #47290.

On a related note, the EFL EWS is already running. A patch to add the status
bubble on Bugzilla has been submitted on bug #47277.

Cheers,
   Leandro
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Re: [webkit-dev] Build slave: requesting username/password pairs

2010-10-06 Thread William Siegrist
On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Leandro Pereira wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I've setup a machine to run as as a build bot for the EFL port. Instructions
 in the wiki says I should ask for a username/password pair here, so here I
 am.
 
 The necessary configuration to be sent to build.webkit.org was submitted as
 a patch on bug #47290.
 

I'll send you a password after the patch lands. 

-Bill



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[webkit-dev] On frequently hosing other port's WebKit2 builds

2010-10-06 Thread Andras Becsi

Dear WebKit Community,

In the past few weeks there were several occasions where Apple-WebKit2 
developers ignored the red Qt EWS on Bugzilla and nonetheless committed 
their patches and let the Qt bot stay red for several hours without any 
sign of trying to fix the issues (mostly introduced by thoughtlessness), 
or asking for help on IRC, or even the webkit-qt mailing list, or CC'ing 
somebody to the bug who might be able to help fixing the problems before 
hosing the tree, like with these bugs:


https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47281
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47239
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47097
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46585
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46432
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46054
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46043

This is making the lives of the maintainers miserable because if a bot 
is already red it is completely ignored by other developers, which makes 
it really hard to catch up.
I respectfully think that this kind of arrogant and ignorant way of 
development does real harm to the community.
We have a really fast Qt EWS and the build failures weren't complex 
ones, the EWS would have only needed a minute more than the style-bot to 
have a nice output where the errors caused by left-in old API calls or 
old includes or left-out extra compiler definitions would have shown 
themselves, and I do not think waiting this few minutes would hurt 
anyone. Especially because this kind of behaviour is not only 
disrespectful to us, but also to Eric and Adam who are working hard to 
make these awsome QA technologies possible.


Comments like this https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47097#c10 are 
really frustrating, because all contributors are supposed to bother with 
the Mac xcodeproj files and their cryptic hashes, too (not to talk about 
the other nearly dozen build systems) if they implement something, and 
stringently have their patches checked on all the EWS.


Surpassing all my private disappointment, I think IRC, Bugzilla, the 
EWS's and other buildbots aren't there to force some kind of an unwanted 
ritual on developers, in which they only upload patches to Bugzilla to 
conform some policy, but to make collaboration possible.


I do not want my letter to be looked at as an offense or attack, I'd 
rather like to kindly ask the responsile ones to stop the ignorant and 
discriminative way of handling other ports, and at least try to show 
some respect on other developers work.


Sorry, if this souded like an offense.

WBR,
Andras Becsi

On behalf of the QtWebKit Team at the University of Szeged
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[webkit-dev] how to create a test that can perform actions while resources are still loading?

2010-10-06 Thread 胡慧鋒
Hi,

I am trying to create a layout test that has 2 pages, each containing an
iframe.  I need to perform the main actions while both iframes are still
loading.

Does anyone know how I can do this?

I've tried opening 2 pages (via window.open) that contain iframes, and
performing the actions in the window onload handler for those pages.  The
iframes may or may not have finished loading when I get to the onload
handler.  I need something that guarantees both iframes are still loading
before I take action.

I've also tried making this an http test using a slow loading iframe, but
the window onload handler for the page does not run until after its iframe
has finished loading.  (surprisingly)

I'm stuck.  Hoping someone on this list can help...

Thanks,
Jenn
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Re: [webkit-dev] how to create a test that can perform actions while resources are still loading?

2010-10-06 Thread Darin Adler
On Oct 6, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Jenn Braithwaite (胡慧鋒) wrote:

 I've also tried making this an http test using a slow loading iframe, but the 
 window onload handler for the page does not run until after its iframe has 
 finished loading.

This seems OK. You can put your test code somewhere other than the load 
handler. For example, an inline script:

script
test();
/script

That will run right away and won’t wait for the window load event.

-- Darin

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[webkit-dev] Any objections to switching to Xcode 3.2.4 or newer?

2010-10-06 Thread Darin Adler
Hi folks.

For those working on Mac OS X: Any objection to upgrading to Xcode 3.2.4? It’s 
now showing up in Apple’s Software Update for all Xcode users, I believe.

I ask because this adds a developmentRegion = English string to the project 
file but the older versions of Xcode remove that string. If we all agree to use 
the newer version, then we can let that string get checked in. If some of us 
are using the older version it will be frustrating because the string will be 
removed each time someone edits the project file with an older version and 
checks it in.

If no one objects, we’ll start checking in the project files with 
developmentRegion in there.

-- Darin

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Re: [webkit-dev] Any objections to switching to Xcode 3.2.4 or newer?

2010-10-06 Thread Adam Barth
+1000 for stoping the edit war over developmentRegion = English.

Adam


On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote:
 Hi folks.

 For those working on Mac OS X: Any objection to upgrading to Xcode 3.2.4? 
 It’s now showing up in Apple’s Software Update for all Xcode users, I believe.

 I ask because this adds a developmentRegion = English string to the project 
 file but the older versions of Xcode remove that string. If we all agree to 
 use the newer version, then we can let that string get checked in. If some of 
 us are using the older version it will be frustrating because the string will 
 be removed each time someone edits the project file with an older version and 
 checks it in.

 If no one objects, we’ll start checking in the project files with 
 developmentRegion in there.

    -- Darin

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[webkit-dev] setTimeout and Safari

2010-10-06 Thread Steve Conover
Hoping someone on -dev might have an idea about this...

-Steve


-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: setTimeout and Safari
To: webkit-h...@lists.webkit.org


Actually I am discovering what one might describe as a normal
problem here...how to know when the setTimeout's are done firing.  The
ideal would that I could somehow drill into the dom implementation and
ask whether any setTimeout events are waiting to fire (and stop
polling if the queue length is zero).

I'm sure that's way off in terms of how this is actually implemented.
Does such a thing exist?  Could someone please point me to the
relevant sourcecode?

Regards,
Steve

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sigh.  Please disregard.  After an hour of troubleshooting, I sent
 this email, and two minutes later realized the problem was bad js
 (blush).

 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope this is the right place to be asking this question.

 I'm using the cocoa api, and am able to load a web page in a WebView.
 However I have some javascript in the page that uses setTimeout to
 cause a function to fire 100ms into the future - but the page loads
 and ignores the setTimeout's.

 How do I get my setTimeout's to fire?  I suspect this has something to
 do with the Run Loop, but my experiments so far with various parts of
 the Run Loop api have been failures.

 Regards,
 Steve


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Re: [webkit-dev] setTimeout and Safari

2010-10-06 Thread Simon Fraser
Why do you need to know if there are no more pending setTimeouts?

Simon

On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Steve Conover wrote:

 Hoping someone on -dev might have an idea about this...
 
 -Steve
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:19 PM
 Subject: Re: setTimeout and Safari
 To: webkit-h...@lists.webkit.org
 
 
 Actually I am discovering what one might describe as a normal
 problem here...how to know when the setTimeout's are done firing.  The
 ideal would that I could somehow drill into the dom implementation and
 ask whether any setTimeout events are waiting to fire (and stop
 polling if the queue length is zero).
 
 I'm sure that's way off in terms of how this is actually implemented.
 Does such a thing exist?  Could someone please point me to the
 relevant sourcecode?
 
 Regards,
 Steve
 
 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sigh.  Please disregard.  After an hour of troubleshooting, I sent
 this email, and two minutes later realized the problem was bad js
 (blush).
 
 On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope this is the right place to be asking this question.
 
 I'm using the cocoa api, and am able to load a web page in a WebView.
 However I have some javascript in the page that uses setTimeout to
 cause a function to fire 100ms into the future - but the page loads
 and ignores the setTimeout's.
 
 How do I get my setTimeout's to fire?  I suspect this has something to
 do with the Run Loop, but my experiments so far with various parts of
 the Run Loop api have been failures.
 
 Regards,
 Steve
 
 
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[webkit-dev] intercept all http requests, best way to run headless webkit

2010-10-06 Thread Steve Conover
Another couple of questions - hoping people on webkit-dev might be able to help.

-Steve


-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve Conover scono...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:53 AM
Subject: intercept all http requests, best way to run headless webkit
To: webkit-h...@lists.webkit.org


Hi,

1. I'm using the WebKit cocoa api and would like to intercept all http
traffic.  So, let's say a request is generated by a user action,
whether it's a GET, POST, Ajax GET, etc - I'd like to intercept the
http request, inspect it and do some work, and then return an http
response object that I've created, without the browser attempting to
do any further processing of the request (e.g. going out to the
internet).

What are my options, given my environment?  What would you recommend I do?


2. A more general question: what's the best way to construct a
headless webkit browser these days?  As I mentioned I'm using cocoa,
I've constructed a rudimentary headless Safari browser:

http://github.com/sconover/schnauzer/blob/master/lib/schnauzer.rb

I'm content to be tied to OSX, but obviously a cross-platform solution
would be preferable if that's doable/not too onerous.  What are people
doing these days to create embedded/server-side webkit instances?

Regards,
Steve
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Re: [webkit-dev] Any objections to switching to Xcode 3.2.4 or newer?

2010-10-06 Thread Chris Marrin
+1 +1 +1 !

On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Darin Adler wrote:

 Hi folks.
 
 For those working on Mac OS X: Any objection to upgrading to Xcode 3.2.4? 
 It’s now showing up in Apple’s Software Update for all Xcode users, I believe.
 
 I ask because this adds a developmentRegion = English string to the project 
 file but the older versions of Xcode remove that string. If we all agree to 
 use the newer version, then we can let that string get checked in. If some of 
 us are using the older version it will be frustrating because the string will 
 be removed each time someone edits the project file with an older version and 
 checks it in.
 
 If no one objects, we’ll start checking in the project files with 
 developmentRegion in there.
 
-- Darin
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] a ping landed

2010-10-06 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

We've never really formalized an approach to new Web platform features, but the 
usual practice has been something like:

- Use an ENABLE macro if the feature is one that ports may be unable to support 
immediately or may wish to turn off for other reasons.
- Have it on by default if:
   (a) The feature is part of a standard or clearly standards-track; or the 
WebKit community has rough consensus that it is a worthwhile feature for the 
project to support
   (b) And it is stable enough that having it on wouldn't make trunk unusable 
for testing.
- For features where there is not consensus on the appropriateness and 
usefulness, we make some effort to come to consensus, though full agreement 
isn't always possible.
- Sometimes things get fuzzier than that and there may be special circumstances.
- It's reasonably common for features to start out off by default, for a 
variety of reasons, and then get turned on by default later.

Applying specifically to this case, a ping seems to be a worthwhile feature, 
and there seems to be good reason to believe the code is stable. However, there 
is a special circumstance, i.e. the negative public reaction it has elicited at 
times in the past. In the past, and most likely in the future, most WebKit 
additions to the Web platform have been greeted in a largely positive way, so 
this is an unusual situation, and I do not expect it to come up very often.

To be more specific: some have perceived this feature as being anti-privacy, 
and privacy on the Web has been a topic of significant public attention. This 
stance may not be entirely fair, since the alternative to a ping is not a 
world where no one tracks outgoing links; rather, it is a world where sites do 
so in a way that hurts performance and is significantly more difficult for 
users to avoid. But that is a tricky case to make, and perhaps some will not be 
convinced until they see the future in action.

To be clear, the aim here is not to slow down adoption of a ping but rather 
to give vendors and port maintainers the choice of whether to take on some PR 
risk by being one of the early adopters of this feature, as a courtesy. I think 
it is likely that in time, this risk will blow over.

Regards,
Maciej

On Oct 5, 2010, at 2:45 AM, Dirk Pranke wrote:

 Fair enough; in retrospect I realize my message may have come across
 with the wrong tone. Mostly I was just wondering how often we do this,
 since it doesn't seem like you'd want this to be the blanket approach
 to new things.
 I defer to Maciej's (and others') wisdom as to what the right thing to
 do is on this particular feature.
 
 -- Dirk
 
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Darin Fisher da...@chromium.org wrote:
 I don't think it is the norm.  This one is special for the reasons already
 stated.
 -Darin
 
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Dirk Pranke dpra...@chromium.org wrote:
 
 Keeping it off by default until it has some mainstream acceptance
 seems like a bit of a self-defeating policy for new features; is this
 often done in WebKit?
 
 -- Dirk
 
 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
 
 Since a ping has been controversial in the past (for arguably bogus
 reasons, but controversial nontheless), I suggest we keep it off by
 default
 until we find it has some mainstream acceptance and/or we discover that
 more
 ports want it.
 Regards,
 Maciej
 P.S. We haven't decided yet if we want it on for the ports Apple ships,
 but
 it's probable we will turn it on sooner or later.
 
 
 On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote:
 
 Given that a ping really doesn't open up any new privacy holes (just
 makes
 it easier for sites to get the data they're going to gather anyway
 without
 slowing down the experience for the user), it seems like we might as
 well
 enable it by default.  If a port doesn't want it, they can always
 disable
 it, right?
 Thanks,
 J
 
 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Nate Chapin jap...@chromium.org
 wrote:
 
 This is a few days late, but I just wanted to let the team know that,
 as
 of http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/68166, WebKit can support a ping
 (but
 support is disabled by default).
 
 The reason I left it disabled by default is that some ports may want to
 have a mechanism for disabling pings, and I didn't want anyone
 to accidentally pick it up before they were ready.  I'm happy to flip
 it to
 enabled by default if that's what people prefer.
 
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Re: [webkit-dev] Any objections to switching to Xcode 3.2.4 or newer?

2010-10-06 Thread Brent Fulgham
Can we go one better and also update Visual Studio?  :-)

On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Chris Marrin wrote:

 +1 +1 +1 !
 
 On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Darin Adler wrote:
 
 Hi folks.
 
 For those working on Mac OS X: Any objection to upgrading to Xcode 3.2.4? 
 It’s now showing up in Apple’s Software Update for all Xcode users, I 
 believe.

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[webkit-dev] Upgrading VS (WAS: Any objections to switching to Xcode 3.2.4 or newer?)

2010-10-06 Thread Jeremy Orlow
Although this is a noble goal, wouldn't it require either
1) Us maintaining yet another build system or
2) Any Windows based WebKit hackers needing to upgrade their Visual
Studio...which would require $$?  [1]

Either way, what's our migration plan (since we can't use VS 2005 forever)?

J

[1] Yes xcode does require a mac, and that's not free, but anyone already
using a particular version of xcode should be able to upgrade, right?

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Brent Fulgham bfulg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can we go one better and also update Visual Studio?  :-)

 On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Chris Marrin wrote:

  +1 +1 +1 !
 
  On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Darin Adler wrote:
 
  Hi folks.
 
  For those working on Mac OS X: Any objection to upgrading to Xcode
 3.2.4? It’s now showing up in Apple’s Software Update for all Xcode users, I
 believe.

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Re: [webkit-dev] On frequently hosing other port's WebKit2 builds

2010-10-06 Thread Antonio Gomes
Maybe making EWS bots build already r+'ed patches could help here as well.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Andras Becsi abe...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote:

 Dear WebKit Community,

 In the past few weeks there were several occasions where Apple-WebKit2
 developers ignored the red Qt EWS on Bugzilla and nonetheless committed
 their patches and let the Qt bot stay red for several hours without any sign
 of trying to fix the issues (mostly introduced by thoughtlessness), or
 asking for help on IRC, or even the webkit-qt mailing list, or CC'ing
 somebody to the bug who might be able to help fixing the problems before
 hosing the tree, like with these bugs:

 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47281
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47239
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47097
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46585
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46432
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46054
 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46043

 This is making the lives of the maintainers miserable because if a bot is
 already red it is completely ignored by other developers, which makes it
 really hard to catch up.
 I respectfully think that this kind of arrogant and ignorant way of
 development does real harm to the community.
 We have a really fast Qt EWS and the build failures weren't complex ones,
 the EWS would have only needed a minute more than the style-bot to have a
 nice output where the errors caused by left-in old API calls or old includes
 or left-out extra compiler definitions would have shown themselves, and I do
 not think waiting this few minutes would hurt anyone. Especially because
 this kind of behaviour is not only disrespectful to us, but also to Eric and
 Adam who are working hard to make these awsome QA technologies possible.

 Comments like this https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47097#c10 are
 really frustrating, because all contributors are supposed to bother with the
 Mac xcodeproj files and their cryptic hashes, too (not to talk about the
 other nearly dozen build systems) if they implement something, and
 stringently have their patches checked on all the EWS.

 Surpassing all my private disappointment, I think IRC, Bugzilla, the EWS's
 and other buildbots aren't there to force some kind of an unwanted ritual on
 developers, in which they only upload patches to Bugzilla to conform some
 policy, but to make collaboration possible.

 I do not want my letter to be looked at as an offense or attack, I'd rather
 like to kindly ask the responsile ones to stop the ignorant and
 discriminative way of handling other ports, and at least try to show some
 respect on other developers work.

 Sorry, if this souded like an offense.

 WBR,
 Andras Becsi

 On behalf of the QtWebKit Team at the University of Szeged
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Re: [webkit-dev] Upgrading VS (WAS: Any objections to switching to Xcode 3.2.4 or newer?)

2010-10-06 Thread Eric Mader

On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote:

 2) Any Windows based WebKit hackers needing to upgrade their Visual 
 Studio...which would require $$?  [1]

Could we use the Visual Studio Express Editions? They're free.

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Re: [webkit-dev] New Rich Text Editing Test suite

2010-10-06 Thread Roland Steiner
Hi Ryosuke,

looking closer at RTE2-AC_JF_TEXT-1_SC it seems to actually pass on my
Chrome Mac build (but it doesn't generate a br)?!):

Result:  div style=text-align: justifyfoo^bar/div
 Chromium7.0.547.0 (Developer Build ) WebKit534.10 V82.4.8
did you make any changes, or are you looking at a different build?

Cheers,

- Roland

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 However, we pass JustifyLeft, JustifyRight, JustifyCenter even though we
 also add BR in those cases.  I don't quite understand the difference
 there...

 - Ryosuke


 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Roland Steiner 
 rolandstei...@google.comwrote:

 On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:

 Mn... I realized something strange here.

 RTE2-AC_JF_TEXT-1_SC fails on WebKit TOT and the test is: JustifyFull on
 foo^bar.  However, it clearly works on WebKit when I test it manually.  It
 generates div style=text-align: justify;foobarbr/div.  I'm not sure
 why the test claims that WebKit fails on this particular test.


 That is probably one of the areas that needs discussion - the way the
 suite is set up currently, it doesn't allow for superfluous HTML elements.
 I.e., my guess is that it fails because of the extra br (ATM I don't have
 a TOT WebKit browser, so can't confirm for sure). I have added cases like
 this as acceptable (but not ideal) results for some tests, but not yet all
 of them (if we want to add this, then I guess I should implement some
 systematic way to check these rather than adding it by hand, though).

 Cheers,

 - Roland



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Re: [webkit-dev] On frequently hosing other port's WebKit2 builds

2010-10-06 Thread Adam Barth
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Antonio Gomes toniki...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe making EWS bots build already r+'ed patches could help here as well.

That's a top feature request.  I'll make that happen next time I get
some time to work on the tools.

Adam
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