[webkit-dev] Quesition about DumpRenderTree output
Hi,
Can you please tell me what is the meaning of relative positioned
and the meaning of positioned in DumpRenderTree?
How should I use that to read the values
RenderObject::localToAbsolute() (enclosed in ())and
RenderObject:frameRect() (enclosed in {});
For example:
layer at (780,168) size 222x25
-RenderBlock (positioned) {UL} at (780,0) size 222x25 {780.00,168.00}
and
layer at (27,363) size 265x239
RenderBlock (relative positioned) {DIV} at (18,18) size 265x239 {27.00,363.00}
and (no 'positioned' is specified)
RenderBlock {DIV} at (0,0) size 261x26 {341.00,988.00}
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Re: [webkit-dev] How to interrupt Webkit Dump Render Tree output
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:58 PM, tonikitoo (Antonio
Gomes)toniki...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Simon Frasersimon.fra...@apple.com wrote:
There is a method on RenderObject to get the correct absolute coordinates of
the renderer, which correctly takes transforms, scrolling etc into account:
RenderObject::localToAbsolute(). This is not a trivial problem.
localToAbsolute() is only fragile because if you are querying for
the position of a renderobject inside an iframe, it is not relative to
mainFrame but to the currentFrame. I've done it like below:
static inline IntRect absoluteRenderRect(RenderObject* render)
{
ASSERT(render);
// FIXME: This function is flawed because it doesn't consider the
effects of CSS or SVG transforms.
IntRect rect(render-absoluteClippedOverflowRect());
// handle nested frames.
for (Frame* frame = render-document()-frame(); frame; frame =
frame-tree()-parent())
if(HTMLFrameOwnerElement* ownerElement = frame-ownerElement())
rect.move(ownerElement-renderer()-offsetLeft(),
ownerElement-renderer()-offsetTop());
return rect;
}
maybe there is a better way , but ...
Hi, I have tried using the dumpRenderTree to dump out the absolute
co-ordinates of the
Render Tree of www.google.com. I put the absolute x, y result at the
end marked by { and }.
And www.google.com, the first text is 'Web followed by Images
followed by Video followed by Maps.
But what I don't understand is (from the output below) is all the
absolute coordinates of those text are x = 8.0 and y = 3.0. But
visually, they are next to each other horizontally. So the y values
should be the same but the x values should be different. Can you
please help me understand the result? And there is no iframe problem
the like you described.
Thank you.
Here is the output:
RenderInline {B} at (0,0) size 27x15 {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (0,1) size 27x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (0,1) width 27: Web
RenderText {#text} at (33,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (33,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 43x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (37,1) size 43x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (37,1) width 43: Images
RenderText {#text} at (86,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (86,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 33x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (90,1) size 33x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (90,1) width 33: Video
RenderText {#text} at (129,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (129,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 32x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (133,1) size 32x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (133,1) width 32: Maps
RenderText {#text} at (171,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (171,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 32x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (175,1) size 32x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (175,1) width 32: News
RenderText {#text} at (213,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (213,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 54x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (217,1) size 54x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (217,1) width 54: Shopping
RenderText {#text} at (277,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (277,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 34x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (281,1) size 34x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (281,1) width 34: Gmail
RenderText {#text} at (321,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (321,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 44x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderInline {U} at (0,0) size 29x15 {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (325,1) size 29x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (325,1) width 29: more
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Re: [webkit-dev] Question about return values of RenderObject:localToAbsolute()
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM, xunxinwanxun...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Lucius Fox lucius.fo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I use the dumpRenderTree to dump out the absolute co-ordinates of the
Render Tree of www.google.com. I put the absolute x, y result at the
end marked by { and }.
And www.google.com, the first text is 'Web followed by Images
followed by Video followed by Maps.
But what I don't understand is (from the output below), all the
absolute coordinates of those text are x = 8.0 and y = 3.0. But
visually, they are next to each other horizontally. So the y values
should be the same but the x values should be different. Can someone
please help me understand the result?
You need add renderText's relative x. such as:
IntRect linesBox = text-linesBoundingBox();
FloatPoint absPos = text-localToAbsolute();
int posX = lineBox.x() + absPos.x();
int posY = lineBox.y() + absPos.y();
Thank you. But why all the RenderText's parent (which is RenderInline)
all have absolute x = 8 and absolute y = 3?
Thank you for any explanation.
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[webkit-dev] Question about return values of RenderObject:localToAbsolute()
Hi,
I use the dumpRenderTree to dump out the absolute co-ordinates of the
Render Tree of www.google.com. I put the absolute x, y result at the
end marked by { and }.
And www.google.com, the first text is 'Web followed by Images
followed by Video followed by Maps.
But what I don't understand is (from the output below), all the
absolute coordinates of those text are x = 8.0 and y = 3.0. But
visually, they are next to each other horizontally. So the y values
should be the same but the x values should be different. Can someone
please help me understand the result?
Thank you.
Here is the output:
RenderInline {B} at (0,0) size 27x15 {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (0,1) size 27x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (0,1) width 27: Web
RenderText {#text} at (33,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (33,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 43x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (37,1) size 43x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (37,1) width 43: Images
RenderText {#text} at (86,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (86,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 33x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (90,1) size 33x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (90,1) width 33: Video
RenderText {#text} at (129,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (129,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 32x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (133,1) size 32x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (133,1) width 32: Maps
RenderText {#text} at (171,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (171,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 32x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (175,1) size 32x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (175,1) width 32: News
RenderText {#text} at (213,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (213,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 54x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (217,1) size 54x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (217,1) width 54: Shopping
RenderText {#text} at (277,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (277,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 34x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (281,1) size 34x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (281,1) width 34: Gmail
RenderText {#text} at (321,1) size 4x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (321,1) width 4:
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 44x15 [color=#CC] {8.00,3.00}
RenderInline {U} at (0,0) size 29x15 {8.00,3.00}
RenderText {#text} at (325,1) size 29x15 {8.00,3.00}
text run at (325,1) width 29: more
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[webkit-dev] Question about detach Render Tree from DOM
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Re: [webkit-dev] How to interrupt Webkit Dump Render Tree output
Thank you.
So to get absolute co-ordinates of each Render Object, I need to do
something like:
int absolute_x = 0;
int absolute_y = 0;
parent = renderObject.getParent()
while (parent != RenderBody) {
absolute_x += parent.getX();
absolute_y += parent.getY();
}
Is that right?
Thank you.
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Eric Seidel macd...@gmail.com wrote:
To expand Darin's answer: there are exceptions to the
relative-to-containing-block rule. SVG results for example are absolute
(mostly). There are also hacks the the DRT output, where we lie about
metrics in order to keep consistent with historical results (to minimize the
scope of a single patch). If you're trying to use DRT for anything other
than testing, you will likely need to fork WebCore's RenderTreeAsText.cpp
and SVGRenderTreeAsText.cpp substantially to fit your needs.
-eric
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote:
Coordinates in DumpRenderTree output are relative to the containing block,
not absolute.
-- Darin
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[webkit-dev] How to interrupt Webkit Dump Render Tree output
I load www.google.com in WebKit and Dump Render Tree output.
Here is the part of the output:
But I don't understand is the y co-coordinate output.
The 'Language Tools' y co-coordinate is 22. And the ' the web' y
co-coordinate is 2.
But visually, the text 'the web' is BELOW 'Language Tools', so why the
y co-coordinate is less than 22?
RenderInline {A} at (0,0) size 76x11 [color=#CC]
RenderText {#text} at (6,22) size 76x11
text run at (6,22) width 76: Language Tools
RenderBlock {INPUT} at (245,3) size 12x13
RenderInline {LABEL} at (0,0) size 49x15
RenderText {#text} at (260,2) size 49x15
text run at (260,2) width 49: the web
Thank you for helping me understanding it
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[webkit-dev] Need help in understanding Webkit reflow
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Re: [webkit-dev] Webkit JavaScript question
Thanks. Can you please help me understand why SquirellFish needs to generate squirellFish byte code first before compile it to machine code? For v8, it compiles JavaScript source code directly into machine code when it is first executed. There are no intermediate byte codes, no interpreter. http://code.google.com/apis/v8/design.html#mach_code Thank you. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Zoltan Herczeg zherc...@inf.u-szeged.hu wrote: Hi, The JavaScript engine does 3 steps: 1) Parse JS files 2) Generate SquirellFish byte code (ByteCodeGenerator.h is part of it) 3) Compile SF byte code to machine code by its JIT compiler (optional) The last step depends on the architecture (supported or not) and C++ compiler directives. If JIT is enabled (see wtf/Platform.h), it always generates machine code. Otherwise an interpreter executes the byte code. A mixed environment (both jit and interpreter) is not yet supported. Zoltan Hi, Can you please tell me what is the difference between ByteCodeGenerator.h and JIT.h? I assume ByteCodeGenerator is convert a raw .js file into JavaScript VM opecode and will be executed by Webkit JavaScript VM. and JIT convert a raw .js file into native machine code and will be executed by operating system of the browser? Is that correct? If yes, when/how does Webkit decide to use which approach? ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] Webkit JavaScript question
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Re: [webkit-dev] Memory Management of Webkit on MacOS
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: The WebKit framework on Mac OS X supports either mode, reference counted or garbage collected, depending on the mode of the application it’s linked to. -- Darin Thanks. Sorry. I meant does Webkit on MacOS X uses 'reference counted or garbage collected' memory management? Not 'if my MacOS application which uses Webkit can use 'reference counted or garbage collected' memory management? Thank you. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: The WebKit framework on Mac OS X supports either mode, reference counted or garbage collected, depending on the mode of the application it’s linked to. -- Darin Thanks. Sorry. I meant does Webkit on MacOS X uses 'reference counted or garbage collected' memory management? Not 'if my MacOS application which uses Webkit can use ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] Memory Management of Webkit on MacOS
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[webkit-dev] Webkit capture web page content API
Hi, Does Webkit have an api which captures web page content? for example in Safari 4.0 beta, the history/bookmark shows an image of the web content of each history/bookmark entry. Can you please tell me which api in webkit that Safari 4.0 is using? Thank you. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Webkit capture web page content API
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: On May 13, 2009, at 12:26 AM, Lucius Fox wrote: Does Webkit have an api which captures web page content? for example in Safari 4.0 beta, the history/bookmark shows an image of the web content of each history/bookmark entry. Can you please tell me which api in webkit that Safari 4.0 is using? There’s nothing WebKit-specific involved. This is done with standard Cocoa NSView APIs such as -[NSView displayRectIgnoringOpacity:inContext:] and -[NSView cacheDisplayInRect:toBitmapImageRep:]. Thanks. But if Webkit is not involved. That means it can not capture the web content which is not within the visible area (e.g. a page is long and it has scroll bar)? -- Darin ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] How to build Webkit GTK on macos
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Re: [webkit-dev] TestShell for WebKit rendering engine
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Mark Rowe mr...@apple.com wrote: On 2009-04-29, at 22:14, Lucius Fox wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 29, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Lucius Fox wrote: Is there a TestShell for WebKit rendering engine on MacOS? i.e. just a window with a text field to enter URL and then it uses WebKit to load and render the page? I think the WebKit Gtk has something like that. Is there an equivalent of that on MacOS? There’s a Mac OS X sample application called MiniBrowser that’s sort of like that. This article talks about it http://developer.apple.com/safari/articles/opensource/webkitnightlybuilds.html and it’s mentioned often in the WebKit Objective-C Programming Guide. Thanks. But when I source using svn (following this http://webkit.org/building/checkout.html;) i don't see the MiniBrowser project. do i have to get the source bundle from http://nightly.webkit.org/? The MiniBrowser example ships with the Mac OS X developer tools, and is installed at /Developer/Examples/WebKit alongside other WebKit-related sample code. Thank you. How can I use the MiniBrowser example project to use the Webkit code that I get from the trunk. The one that I get from following this instruction: http://webkit.org/building/checkout.html Thank you. - Mark ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] TestShell for WebKit rendering engine
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Mark Rowe mr...@apple.com wrote: On 2009-04-30, at 19:20, Lucius Fox wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Mark Rowe mr...@apple.com wrote: On 2009-04-30, at 10:48, Lucius Fox wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Mark Rowe mr...@apple.com wrote: The MiniBrowser example ships with the Mac OS X developer tools, and is installed at /Developer/Examples/WebKit alongside other WebKit-related sample code. Thank you. How can I use the MiniBrowser example project to use the Webkit code that I get from the trunk. The one that I get from following this instruction: http://webkit.org/building/checkout.html The link that Darin sent out earlier talks about doing just that (http://developer.apple.com/safari/articles/opensource/webkitnightlybuilds.html). The section titled Testing Your Application With WebKit Nightly Builds describes running MiniBrowser against a nightly build of WebKit. The instructions can trivially be adapted to work with your own build of WebKit by changing the value of DYLD_FRAMEWORK_PATH to point at your built products directory. Thank you for your help. Sorry for my oversight. When you said your built products directory. Do you mean ./WebKit/mac/Resources? or ./WebCore/Resources The directory beneath which the products of the build process are placed. For a debug build of WebKit without a shared build directory configured in Xcode, that would be WebKitBuild/Debug. Actually, I am thinking if I can do it the other way around. Follow this http://webkit.org/building/debug.html to run WebCore in Xcode, but in step 4, instead of using '/Applications/Safari.app.', use '/Developer/Examples/WebKit/MiniBrowser/build/Debug/MiniBrowser.app' If I do that, i can setup breakpoints inside WebCore, since I am running WebCore Xcode project (instead of MiniBrowser Xcode project). - Mark ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] TestShell for WebKit rendering engine
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Darin Adler da...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 29, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Lucius Fox wrote: Is there a TestShell for WebKit rendering engine on MacOS? i.e. just a window with a text field to enter URL and then it uses WebKit to load and render the page? I think the WebKit Gtk has something like that. Is there an equivalent of that on MacOS? There’s a Mac OS X sample application called MiniBrowser that’s sort of like that. This article talks about it http://developer.apple.com/safari/articles/opensource/webkitnightlybuilds.html and it’s mentioned often in the WebKit Objective-C Programming Guide. Thanks. But when I source using svn (following this http://webkit.org/building/checkout.html;) i don't see the MiniBrowser project. do i have to get the source bundle from http://nightly.webkit.org/? -- Darin ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] opcode for Webkit JavaScript Engine opcode
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[webkit-dev] Data Structure built during JavaScript execution
Hi,
Can you please tell me what is the data Structure built by Webkit
during JavaScript execution?
For example,
var a = 1;
function b() {
alert('hello);
}
It needs to build a data structure to save the value of a inside the
VM. Can you please tell me what is that defined?
same as Function, how is that being maintained inside javascript VM.
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Re: [webkit-dev] Canvas API in Webkit
Thanks. I think Safari has a 'history' feature or Nokia S60 browser which shows each url in history as a preview image'. Can you please tell me how if that is true and how is that implement? On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Justin Haygood jhayg...@reaktix.comwrote: The HTML Canvas element was invented by Apple for Safari/WebKit :) - Original Message - *From:* Lucius Fox lucius.fo...@gmail.com *To:* webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org *Sent:* Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:24 PM *Subject:* [webkit-dev] Canvas API in Webkit Hi, Mozilla has a Canvas API which allow extension developer to paint the web page content to a surface. So that extension tab preview is possible: http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/ Is that the same kind of api in webkit? If yes, can you please tell me where i can find example? Thank you. -- ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] Canvas API in Webkit
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