[webkit-dev] About the " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer communication" implementation

2011-11-10 Thread Victor LI
Hi,

Does the webkit implements the chapter " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer 
communication" now?
if it doesn't , is there any plan to support it?


Victor LI
rtj...@hotmail.com



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Re: [webkit-dev] About the " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer communication" implementation

2011-11-10 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2011/11/10 Victor LI :
> Hi,
> Does the webkit implements the chapter " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer
> communication" now?
> if it doesn't , is there any plan to support it?

There are people working on it:

  https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2011-November/018445.html

I suppose bugzilla has bugs for this, although they are not mentioned
in the announcement.

Would probably be a good idea to have a tracking bug for this though?

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Re: [webkit-dev] About the " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer communication" implementation

2011-11-10 Thread Charles Pritchard

On 11/10/11 12:32 AM, Kalle Vahlman wrote:

2011/11/10 Victor LI:

Hi,
Does the webkit implements the chapter " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer
communication" now?
if it doesn't , is there any plan to support it?

There are people working on it:

   https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2011-November/018445.html

I suppose bugzilla has bugs for this, although they are not mentioned
in the announcement.

Would probably be a good idea to have a tracking bug for this though?

Seems like there's need for consensus; a tracking bug might help 
webkit-devs develop an internal consensus.


From the spec, data section: "there is currently not enough agreement 
on the data channel to write it up."

http://www.w3.org/TR/webrtc/#the-data-stream

Also, on the p2p communication side:

Seems like the only means of passing arbitrary binary data over P2P in 
this spec is to flash a QR code in front of a web cam.


I don't want to see P2P implemented so conservatively in browsers that 
it's restricted to webcams and pre-recorded audio-video files.


The spec mentions a "signaling channel" but that channel is coordinated 
"via the server, e.g. using XMLHttpRequest.".


-Charles
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Re: [webkit-dev] About the " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer communication" implementation

2011-11-10 Thread Adam Bergkvist

On 11/10/2011 09:32 AM, Kalle Vahlman wrote:

2011/11/10 Victor LI:

Hi,
Does the webkit implements the chapter " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer
communication" now?
if it doesn't , is there any plan to support it?


There are people working on it:

   https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2011-November/018445.html

I suppose bugzilla has bugs for this, although they are not mentioned
in the announcement.

Would probably be a good idea to have a tracking bug for this though?



There is a meta bug for this feature.
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56459

/Adam

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Re: [webkit-dev] About the " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer communication" implementation

2011-11-10 Thread ᛏᚮᛘᛘᚤ
Something ate the last part of my message :/

Master bug can be found here: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56459

/Tommy

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:32, Kalle Vahlman wrote:

> 2011/11/10 Victor LI :
> > Hi,
> > Does the webkit implements the chapter " Video conferencing and
> peer-to-peer
> > communication" now?
> > if it doesn't , is there any plan to support it?
>
> There are people working on it:
>
>  https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2011-November/018445.html
>
> I suppose bugzilla has bugs for this, although they are not mentioned
> in the announcement.
>
> Would probably be a good idea to have a tracking bug for this though?
>
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Re: [webkit-dev] About the " Video conferencing and peer-to-peer communication" implementation

2011-11-10 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Re status on data transmission:

The main discussion channel for the data stream is the IETF working group:
rtc...@ietf.org
The core draft discussing the protocol tradeoffs is
draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-01, available from the usual IETF draft places.

The main discussion channel for the API is the W3C working group:
public-web...@w3.org

What protocol to use for the data channel is a subject of active discussion.
At the moment, the proposal that seems to have the least resistance for a
data channel protocol is userspace SCTP over DTLS over UDP. That it has
"the least resistance" is not the same as "no resistance" - there are pros
and cons to both this and all other solutions.

 Harald (chair of the W3 WG)

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Charles Pritchard  wrote:

> On 11/10/11 12:32 AM, Kalle Vahlman wrote:
>
>> 2011/11/10 Victor LI:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Does the webkit implements the chapter " Video conferencing and
>>> peer-to-peer
>>> communication" now?
>>> if it doesn't , is there any plan to support it?
>>>
>> There are people working on it:
>>
>>   https://lists.webkit.org/**pipermail/webkit-dev/2011-**
>> November/018445.html
>>
>> I suppose bugzilla has bugs for this, although they are not mentioned
>> in the announcement.
>>
>> Would probably be a good idea to have a tracking bug for this though?
>>
>>  Seems like there's need for consensus; a tracking bug might help
> webkit-devs develop an internal consensus.
>
> From the spec, data section: "there is currently not enough agreement on
> the data channel to write it up."
> http://www.w3.org/TR/webrtc/#**the-data-stream
>
> Also, on the p2p communication side:
>
> Seems like the only means of passing arbitrary binary data over P2P in
> this spec is to flash a QR code in front of a web cam.
>
> I don't want to see P2P implemented so conservatively in browsers that
> it's restricted to webcams and pre-recorded audio-video files.
>
> The spec mentions a "signaling channel" but that channel is coordinated
> "via the server, e.g. using XMLHttpRequest.".
>
> -Charles
>
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