Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Jesus Sanchez-Palencia]

Hi,

2012/12/4 Tor Arne Vestbø :
>
> Bill, what do you think about pushing the official SVN import to GitHub as
> well?
>
> tor arne

Any updates about this?

Cheers,
jesus


>
>>
>> So we might be able to rename the existing one and ask github to pull
>> our git.webkit.org  repository into
>>
>> github/WebKit/webkit.
>> Apparently Apache takes that way: https://github.com/apache
>> The "mirroring" icon indicates kind of official-ness.
>>
>> I don't know how long their mirroring delay is, though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Tor Arne Vestbø
>> mailto:tor.arne.ves...@digia.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/28/12 16:55 , Adam Barth wrote:
>>
>> My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the
>> hashes in
>> GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org
>>  so that folks can more
>>
>> easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've
>> switched over
>> to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org
>> , so the the difference in
>>
>> hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
>> problematic for other people.
>>
>>
>> Yepp, agreed. Let's switch it over.
>>
>>
>> After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
>> automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
>> convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time
>> on
>> this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)
>>
>>
>> The mirror is also pushed to http://gitorious.org/webkit/__webkit
>> , which I was planning to keep
>>
>> as is for now, so that would mean setting up an extra mirroring for
>> the non-author-rewritten history :/ Also, the server I run this on
>> has a somewhat uncertain future. With that in mind it's probably
>> easier to just push directly from the same import that's pushed to
>> git.webkit.org , and make the GitHub mirror
>>
>> an official mirror?
>>
>> tor arne
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Tor Arne Vestbø]

On 11/30/12 23:59 , Hajime Morrita wrote:

It looks github supports mirroring by pulling a repo from official location.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11370239/creating-an-official-github-mirror


Ah, didn't know they provided that service, nice. I'm a bit worried 
about the sync delay though, as you say.


Bill, what do you think about pushing the official SVN import to GitHub 
as well?


tor arne



So we might be able to rename the existing one and ask github to pull
our git.webkit.org  repository into
github/WebKit/webkit.
Apparently Apache takes that way: https://github.com/apache
The "mirroring" icon indicates kind of official-ness.

I don't know how long their mirroring delay is, though.



On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Tor Arne Vestbø
mailto:tor.arne.ves...@digia.com>> wrote:

On 11/28/12 16:55 , Adam Barth wrote:

My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the
hashes in
GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org
 so that folks can more
easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've
switched over
to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org
, so the the difference in
hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
problematic for other people.


Yepp, agreed. Let's switch it over.


After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time on
this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)


The mirror is also pushed to http://gitorious.org/webkit/__webkit
, which I was planning to keep
as is for now, so that would mean setting up an extra mirroring for
the non-author-rewritten history :/ Also, the server I run this on
has a somewhat uncertain future. With that in mind it's probably
easier to just push directly from the same import that's pushed to
git.webkit.org , and make the GitHub mirror
an official mirror?

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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Hajime Morrita]

It looks github supports mirroring by pulling a repo from official location.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11370239/creating-an-official-github-mirror

So we might be able to rename the existing one and ask github to pull our
git.webkit.org repository into github/WebKit/webkit.
Apparently Apache takes that way: https://github.com/apache
The "mirroring" icon indicates kind of official-ness.

I don't know how long their mirroring delay is, though.



On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Tor Arne Vestbø
wrote:

> On 11/28/12 16:55 , Adam Barth wrote:
>
>> My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the hashes in
>> GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org so that folks can more
>> easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've switched over
>> to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org, so the the difference in
>> hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
>> problematic for other people.
>>
>
> Yepp, agreed. Let's switch it over.
>
>
>  After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
>> automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
>> convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time on
>> this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)
>>
>
> The mirror is also pushed to 
> http://gitorious.org/webkit/**webkit,
> which I was planning to keep as is for now, so that would mean setting up
> an extra mirroring for the non-author-rewritten history :/ Also, the server
> I run this on has a somewhat uncertain future. With that in mind it's
> probably easier to just push directly from the same import that's pushed to
> git.webkit.org, and make the GitHub mirror an official mirror?
>
> tor arne
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Tor Arne Vestbø]

On 11/28/12 16:55 , Adam Barth wrote:

My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the hashes in
GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org so that folks can more
easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've switched over
to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org, so the the difference in
hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
problematic for other people.


Yepp, agreed. Let's switch it over.


After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time on
this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)


The mirror is also pushed to http://gitorious.org/webkit/webkit, which I 
was planning to keep as is for now, so that would mean setting up an 
extra mirroring for the non-author-rewritten history :/ Also, the server 
I run this on has a somewhat uncertain future. With that in mind it's 
probably easier to just push directly from the same import that's pushed 
to git.webkit.org, and make the GitHub mirror an official mirror?


tor arne
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Gergely Kis]

Hi,

Actually we already made the transition to the current github commit ids,
because github wanted to shut down our repository, if it is not a fork of
the "semi-official" webkit repository. Of course we will be able to
transition back to the git.webkit.org commit ids, when the transition was
made.

I am just mentioning this, that you don't have to rush anything because of
us.

Best Regards,
Gergely


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Palencia wrote:

> 2012/11/28 Adam Barth :
> > My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the hashes in
> > GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org so that folks can more
> > easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've switched over
> > to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org, so the the difference in
> > hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
> > problematic for other people.
> >
> > After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
> > automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
> > convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time on
> > this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)
> >
> > Thanks for letting us use your mirror.  I've found it very useful to
> > be able to push work-in-progress branches to GitHub to share with
> > folks.
>
> +1.
> If we are all set about this, it would be awesome if we could move on
> with it, Tor Arne!
> This would also avoid some extra work for Gergely Kis, I guess...
>
> cheers,
> jesus
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Jesus Sanchez-Palencia]

2012/11/28 Adam Barth :
> My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the hashes in
> GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org so that folks can more
> easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've switched over
> to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org, so the the difference in
> hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
> problematic for other people.
>
> After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
> automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
> convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time on
> this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)
>
> Thanks for letting us use your mirror.  I've found it very useful to
> be able to push work-in-progress branches to GitHub to share with
> folks.

+1.
If we are all set about this, it would be awesome if we could move on
with it, Tor Arne!
This would also avoid some extra work for Gergely Kis, I guess...

cheers,
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Adam Barth]

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Tor Arne Vestbø
 wrote:
> On 11/25/12 1:12 , Adam Barth wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Gergely Kis 
>> wrote:
>>> Yes, I saw that thread, but I got confused by this other thread:
>>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-April/020339.html
>>>
>>> Here most of the participants seemed to agree that moving the 2
>>> repositories
>>> to use the same SHA ids is the best course of action.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the folks who maintain the mirror don't appear to
>> agree.  Given that they've been gracious enough to let us use their
>> mirror, it's hard for us to ask them to change how they run it.
>
> This is not accurate.
>
> I replied directly to you Adam based on the above mentioned thread,
> countering a few points from the thread, but closing off by saying that if
> the consensus was that syncing the mirrors was the way to go, I was
> perfectly fine with that too. I still am -- all it takes is someone letting
> me know when to stop pushing and to do the mentioned force-push.

Oh, I must have misunderstood your message.

My sense is that the WebKit community would prefer that the hashes in
GitHub match the hashes in git.webkit.org so that folks can more
easily move branches between the two.  For my part, I've switched over
to using GitHub exclusive of git.webkit.org, so the the difference in
hashes aren't an issue for me, but I can understand why they'd be
problematic for other people.

After the force-push, would you still be able to push updates
automatically?  If so, you can switch the hashes whenever is
convenient for you.  (It might be nice to announce the date/time on
this list so that folks aren't taken by surprise.)

Thanks for letting us use your mirror.  I've found it very useful to
be able to push work-in-progress branches to GitHub to share with
folks.

Adam
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Tor Arne Vestbø]

On 11/25/12 1:12 , Adam Barth wrote:

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Gergely Kis  wrote:

Yes, I saw that thread, but I got confused by this other thread:
https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-April/020339.html

Here most of the participants seemed to agree that moving the 2 repositories
to use the same SHA ids is the best course of action.


Unfortunately, the folks who maintain the mirror don't appear to
agree.  Given that they've been gracious enough to let us use their
mirror, it's hard for us to ask them to change how they run it.


This is not accurate.

I replied directly to you Adam based on the above mentioned thread, 
countering a few points from the thread, but closing off by saying that 
if the consensus was that syncing the mirrors was the way to go, I was 
perfectly fine with that too. I still am -- all it takes is someone 
letting me know when to stop pushing and to do the mentioned force-push.


Tor Arne

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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Adam Barth]

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Gergely Kis  wrote:
> Yes, I saw that thread, but I got confused by this other thread:
> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-April/020339.html
>
> Here most of the participants seemed to agree that moving the 2 repositories
> to use the same SHA ids is the best course of action.

Unfortunately, the folks who maintain the mirror don't appear to
agree.  Given that they've been gracious enough to let us use their
mirror, it's hard for us to ask them to change how they run it.

> In any case, if the github repo is the way to go now, then we will do the
> transition...

That's likely the path of least resistance.

Adam


> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Eric Seidel  wrote:
>>
>> This has come up in the past.  I believe the current recommended path
>> is to use the github.com SHAs and just live in a github-only world.
>>
>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-March/020002.html
>> has some discussion.
>> https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/UsingGitHub
>>
>> I am not aware of any plan to change the SHAs in the github mirror or
>> git.webkit.org (which is unfortunate, but the current reality).
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Gergely Kis 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It looks like that the github mirror and git.webkit.org still has
>> > different
>> > SHA ids for commits. Is this final, or is the plan still to switch to
>> > the
>> > git.webkit.org SHA ids?
>> >
>> > For our MIPS staging repository we created a new mirror on github from
>> > git.webkit.org, and now we were asked by the github admins to reduce the
>> > repository to less than 1GB. I assume that if we would fork from the
>> > github.com/WebKit/webkit repository, then it would be fine with the
>> > github
>> > admins.
>> >
>> > However, if it is still the plan to switch to the git.webkit.org SHA ids
>> > in
>> > the github mirror as well, then we would like to avoid the extra work of
>> > rebasing our work to the github mirror commits, and then rebasing it
>> > back
>> > when the transition is made.
>> >
>> > We have to decide in the next couple days, because github will disable
>> > access to our repository again, so any status update on this transition
>> > plan
>> > would be helpful.
>> >
>> > Alternatively, if you have any experience with the github admins in how
>> > to
>> > ask for more space for webkit repositories, any advice would be very
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Gergely Kis
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Eric Seidel]

Yes, I remember that thread now, and you're correct:
https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-April/020494.html

One answer is to take your mirror and make it the "main" mirror on
GitHub instead of Tor's.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Gergely Kis  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I saw that thread, but I got confused by this other thread:
> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-April/020339.html
>
> Here most of the participants seemed to agree that moving the 2 repositories
> to use the same SHA ids is the best course of action.
>
> In any case, if the github repo is the way to go now, then we will do the
> transition...
>
> Thanks,
> Gergely
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Eric Seidel  wrote:
>>
>> This has come up in the past.  I believe the current recommended path
>> is to use the github.com SHAs and just live in a github-only world.
>>
>> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-March/020002.html
>> has some discussion.
>> https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/UsingGitHub
>>
>> I am not aware of any plan to change the SHAs in the github mirror or
>> git.webkit.org (which is unfortunate, but the current reality).
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Gergely Kis 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It looks like that the github mirror and git.webkit.org still has
>> > different
>> > SHA ids for commits. Is this final, or is the plan still to switch to
>> > the
>> > git.webkit.org SHA ids?
>> >
>> > For our MIPS staging repository we created a new mirror on github from
>> > git.webkit.org, and now we were asked by the github admins to reduce the
>> > repository to less than 1GB. I assume that if we would fork from the
>> > github.com/WebKit/webkit repository, then it would be fine with the
>> > github
>> > admins.
>> >
>> > However, if it is still the plan to switch to the git.webkit.org SHA ids
>> > in
>> > the github mirror as well, then we would like to avoid the extra work of
>> > rebasing our work to the github mirror commits, and then rebasing it
>> > back
>> > when the transition is made.
>> >
>> > We have to decide in the next couple days, because github will disable
>> > access to our repository again, so any status update on this transition
>> > plan
>> > would be helpful.
>> >
>> > Alternatively, if you have any experience with the github admins in how
>> > to
>> > ask for more space for webkit repositories, any advice would be very
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Gergely Kis
>> >
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Gergely Kis]

Hi,

Yes, I saw that thread, but I got confused by this other thread:
https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-April/020339.html

Here most of the participants seemed to agree that moving the 2
repositories to use the same SHA ids is the best course of action.

In any case, if the github repo is the way to go now, then we will do the
transition...

Thanks,
Gergely


On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Eric Seidel  wrote:

> This has come up in the past.  I believe the current recommended path
> is to use the github.com SHAs and just live in a github-only world.
>
> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-March/020002.html
> has some discussion.
> https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/UsingGitHub
>
> I am not aware of any plan to change the SHAs in the github mirror or
> git.webkit.org (which is unfortunate, but the current reality).
>
> -eric
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Gergely Kis 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > It looks like that the github mirror and git.webkit.org still has
> different
> > SHA ids for commits. Is this final, or is the plan still to switch to the
> > git.webkit.org SHA ids?
> >
> > For our MIPS staging repository we created a new mirror on github from
> > git.webkit.org, and now we were asked by the github admins to reduce the
> > repository to less than 1GB. I assume that if we would fork from the
> > github.com/WebKit/webkit repository, then it would be fine with the
> github
> > admins.
> >
> > However, if it is still the plan to switch to the git.webkit.org SHA
> ids in
> > the github mirror as well, then we would like to avoid the extra work of
> > rebasing our work to the github mirror commits, and then rebasing it back
> > when the transition is made.
> >
> > We have to decide in the next couple days, because github will disable
> > access to our repository again, so any status update on this transition
> plan
> > would be helpful.
> >
> > Alternatively, if you have any experience with the github admins in how
> to
> > ask for more space for webkit repositories, any advice would be very
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Gergely Kis
> >
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Re: [webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Eric Seidel]

This has come up in the past.  I believe the current recommended path
is to use the github.com SHAs and just live in a github-only world.

https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2012-March/020002.html
has some discussion.
https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/UsingGitHub

I am not aware of any plan to change the SHAs in the github mirror or
git.webkit.org (which is unfortunate, but the current reality).

-eric

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Gergely Kis  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It looks like that the github mirror and git.webkit.org still has different
> SHA ids for commits. Is this final, or is the plan still to switch to the
> git.webkit.org SHA ids?
>
> For our MIPS staging repository we created a new mirror on github from
> git.webkit.org, and now we were asked by the github admins to reduce the
> repository to less than 1GB. I assume that if we would fork from the
> github.com/WebKit/webkit repository, then it would be fine with the github
> admins.
>
> However, if it is still the plan to switch to the git.webkit.org SHA ids in
> the github mirror as well, then we would like to avoid the extra work of
> rebasing our work to the github mirror commits, and then rebasing it back
> when the transition is made.
>
> We have to decide in the next couple days, because github will disable
> access to our repository again, so any status update on this transition plan
> would be helpful.
>
> Alternatively, if you have any experience with the github admins in how to
> ask for more space for webkit repositories, any advice would be very
> appreciated.
>
> Best Regards,
> Gergely Kis
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[webkit-dev] Github vs. git.webkit.org

[Gergely Kis]

Hi,

It looks like that the github mirror and git.webkit.org still has different
SHA ids for commits. Is this final, or is the plan still to switch to the
git.webkit.org SHA ids?

For our MIPS staging repository we created a new mirror on github from
git.webkit.org, and now we were asked by the github admins to reduce the
repository to less than 1GB. I assume that if we would fork from the
github.com/WebKit/webkit repository, then it would be fine with the github
admins.

However, if it is still the plan to switch to the git.webkit.org SHA ids in
the github mirror as well, then we would like to avoid the extra work of
rebasing our work to the github mirror commits, and then rebasing it back
when the transition is made.

We have to decide in the next couple days, because github will disable
access to our repository again, so any status update on this transition
plan would be helpful.

Alternatively, if you have any experience with the github admins in how to
ask for more space for webkit repositories, any advice would be very
appreciated.

Best Regards,
Gergely Kis
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