Re: [webkit-dev] Implement ruby-overhang
Thank you for your advice. I'll change the patch and suggest that the author change initial value. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:36 AM, David Hyatt hy...@apple.com wrote: On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Yuki Sekiguchi yuki.sekigu...@access-company.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to add support for ruby-overhang. The spec for this feature can be found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/#rubyover I'm working it at this bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114678 My concern is that this patch changes the default behavior of overhanging ruby text. CSS spec says that initial value is none, but current behavior is like auto. I believe auto is a better initial value than none. We should make the initial value auto for now and try to get the spec changed. dave (hy...@apple.com) -- . The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, and the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mailer and delete this message and its attachments, if any. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Implement ruby-overhang
I didn't contacted the author. However, I checked the editor's draft(editor's copy)[1], but it was older than working draft. I'm contacting the author, and thank you for forwarding this mail to the author. [1]: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-ruby/ On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Glenn Adams gl...@skynav.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Yuki Sekiguchi yuki.sekigu...@access-company.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to add support for ruby-overhang. The spec for this feature can be found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/#rubyover I'm working it at this bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114678 My concern is that this patch changes the default behavior of overhanging ruby text. CSS spec says that initial value is none, but current behavior is like auto. Firefox doesn't support this property. IE says it supports this property[1], but values don't match CSS spec, and the property doesn't affect layout. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. [1]: http://msdn.microsoft.com/ja-jp/library/ie/ms531151(v=vs.85).aspx -- Yuki Sekiguchiyuki.sekigu...@access-company.com ACCESS Co., Ltd. I see that the CSS Ruby draft is now almost two years old and that the CSS Drafts page [1] indicates it is Outdated and majorly [sic] undefined. Have you checked with the author or the CSS WG to determine if this work is moving forward as presently drafted? Have you checked with them on this specific issue? [1] http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work -- . The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, and the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mailer and delete this message and its attachments, if any. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Implement ruby-overhang
Is this behavior change likely to affect any existing Web content, or other important content that uses html ruby markup such as books in EPUB format? - Maciej On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Yuki Sekiguchi yuki.sekigu...@access-company.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to add support for ruby-overhang. The spec for this feature can be found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/#rubyover I'm working it at this bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114678 My concern is that this patch changes the default behavior of overhanging ruby text. CSS spec says that initial value is none, but current behavior is like auto. Firefox doesn't support this property. IE says it supports this property[1], but values don't match CSS spec, and the property doesn't affect layout. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. [1]: http://msdn.microsoft.com/ja-jp/library/ie/ms531151(v=vs.85).aspx -- Yuki Sekiguchiyuki.sekigu...@access-company.com ACCESS Co., Ltd. -- . The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, and the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mailer and delete this message and its attachments, if any. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Implement ruby-overhang
Is this behavior change likely to affect any existing Web content, or other important content that uses html ruby markup such as books in EPUB format? Yes. All Web and EPUB contents which use ruby are affected by this change. I have no strong opinion about initial value of ruby-overhang. If you have any concern, I can change the initial value to none. IE's behavior is ruby-overhang: none. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: Is this behavior change likely to affect any existing Web content, or other important content that uses html ruby markup such as books in EPUB format? - Maciej On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Yuki Sekiguchi yuki.sekigu...@access-company.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to add support for ruby-overhang. The spec for this feature can be found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/#rubyover I'm working it at this bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114678 My concern is that this patch changes the default behavior of overhanging ruby text. CSS spec says that initial value is none, but current behavior is like auto. Firefox doesn't support this property. IE says it supports this property[1], but values don't match CSS spec, and the property doesn't affect layout. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. [1]: http://msdn.microsoft.com/ja-jp/library/ie/ms531151(v=vs.85).aspx -- Yuki Sekiguchiyuki.sekigu...@access-company.com ACCESS Co., Ltd. -- . The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, and the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mailer and delete this message and its attachments, if any. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev -- . The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the addressee. The information may also be legally privileged. This transmission is sent in trust, and the sole purpose of delivery to the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, any use, reproduction or dissemination of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mailer and delete this message and its attachments, if any. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Implement ruby-overhang
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Yuki Sekiguchi yuki.sekigu...@access-company.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to add support for ruby-overhang. The spec for this feature can be found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/#rubyover I'm working it at this bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114678 My concern is that this patch changes the default behavior of overhanging ruby text. CSS spec says that initial value is none, but current behavior is like auto. Firefox doesn't support this property. IE says it supports this property[1], but values don't match CSS spec, and the property doesn't affect layout. Any comments and suggestions are welcome. [1]: http://msdn.microsoft.com/ja-jp/library/ie/ms531151(v=vs.85).aspx -- Yuki Sekiguchiyuki.sekigu...@access-company.com ACCESS Co., Ltd. I see that the CSS Ruby draft is now almost two years old and that the CSS Drafts page [1] indicates it is Outdated and majorly [sic] undefined. Have you checked with the author or the CSS WG to determine if this work is moving forward as presently drafted? Have you checked with them on this specific issue? [1] http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Implement ruby-overhang
On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Yuki Sekiguchi yuki.sekigu...@access-company.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to add support for ruby-overhang. The spec for this feature can be found here: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ruby/#rubyover I'm working it at this bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114678 My concern is that this patch changes the default behavior of overhanging ruby text. CSS spec says that initial value is none, but current behavior is like auto. I believe auto is a better initial value than none. We should make the initial value auto for now and try to get the spec changed. dave (hy...@apple.com) ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
