Re: SOLVED: WebServerResources under servlet deploy - WOAppMode=Deployment
Hi Jon
We currently deploy on Tomcat. A bit of a challenge at times.
This may or may not help you.
We have an Apache Tomcat server (for the apps) and a separate Apache
web server (for static content).
I subclass WOResourceManager and override the method:
public String urlForResourceNamed(String arg0, String arg1,
NSArray arg2, WORequest arg3)
this seems to get called when WOAppMode != Development to resolve
resource in the framework. The 1st argument is the resource. I then
check if it is a gif/jpeg and then return the http server url + gif/
jpeg.
Override the method public WOResourceManager createResourceManager()
in Application to return an instance of the subclassed
WOResourceManager above. That way we serve all the images in WOImage/
WOSortOrder/WOBatchNavigationBar from the web server. If that does
not work for you then overriding one of the other methods in
WOResourceManager should allow you to redirect to the correct resource
url.
Peter
On 22/05/2009, at 12:43 PM, Jon Nolan wrote:
Jon Nolan wrote:
The ERXStyleSheet is assuming that the file is in the location it
would be if you were having the Web Server serve the static files.
This path maps to:
/Library/WebServer/Documents/WebObjects/Frameworks/
WDExtensions.framework/WebServerResources/css/default-styles.css
But because you are serving static files through Tomcat instead of
the Web Server and Tomcat has no way of parsing that URL to you're
app's.
I'm not sure how to get ERXStyleSheet to generate a different URL
that would get it to load from the app.
Thanks again Dave.
Making ERXStyleSheet and ERXJavascript work under these conditions
doesn't seem possible without *serious* patching. I'm afraid to go
near that. I can live without using ERXStyleSheet and ERXJavascript
in my apps/frameworks if I have to but the subclasses of
AjaxComponent
load the Prototype javascript via addScriptResourceInHead which gives
me a problem I can't see my way around.
Does anyone know if there's a simple way of having
AjaxComponent/AjaxUtils/ERXResponseWriter in some way point to a
webserver based URL? Or perhaps allow me some control over
applying a
substitute for "/WebObjects/Frameworks" in the static resource URLs
which the ERXResourceManager creates for me? I've been crawling the
source all afternoon and I'm not seeing it.
Is there anyone else using Wonder Ajax under deployment WOAppMode
in a
servlet environment? If so, how did you solve this problem?
OK, I'm not 100% sure I've gone about this the right way... or if I
have
done so why exactly it is right... but here goes. Please poke holes
in
my solution and/or if you see a better way let me know. I struggled
this for quite a while and am posting this in the hope it helps
someone
down the road.
Deploying a servlet based Wonder app presents significant problems
when
it comes to static resources. ERXStyleSheet and ERXJavascript just
don't support a solution as far as I can tell. Fortunately,
ERXResponseRewriter and its Delegate inner class do. But first things
first. Using Dave's suggestion with slight mods I copied all of the
WebServerResources to the app root (level with WEB-INFO) by adding the
following to my build.xml.
This gives me the files at a location where tomcat can legally serve
them via its http connector port. Now to make the application itself
point those static resource URLs in the right direction. The biggest
problem we have with a default deployment install is that there's not
really a way to remove responsibility for those URLs from the servlet
class. By including /WebObjects in the URL we're always bypassing
tomcat and going straight to the servlet.
So the second step is establishing a ERXResponseRewriter.Delegate and
giving it the opportunity to rewrite the static resource URLs. Here's
my implementation. It's fairly self explanatory and you'll see that
it
doesn't readily handle all possibilities (i.e. WebServerResources in
the application rather than frameworks) but it covers my immediate
needs
and should be easy to extend for future needs.
public class WDResponseRewriterDelegate implements
ERXResponseRewriter.Delegate {
public static void setDelegate() {
String responseRewriteFormat =
ERXProperties
.stringForKey("com.lochgarman.wd.extensions.responserewriteformat");
if (responseRewriteFormat != null)
ERXResponseRewriter.setDelegate(new
WDResponseRewriterDelegate(responseRewriteFormat));
}
private String responseRewriteFormat;
public WDResponseRewriterDelegate(String value) {
responseRewriteFormat = value;
}
public boolean responseRewriterShouldAddResource(String
fram
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
So where did we end up? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:54 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 9-Jun-09, at 5:45 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: I may never leave if we do that. Maybe we should meet in front of that App store sales / splash demo on the second floor. That's where I'm suppose to meet Karl. On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Alan Zebchuk wrote: Should we meet at the Chieftan for a beer and then go from there? Alan On 2009-06-09, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alan.zebchuk%40fuegodigitalmedia.com This email sent to alan.zebc...@fuegodigitalmedia.com -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site:http://codeferous.com blog:http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/danielbeatty%40mac.com This email sent to danielbea...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
On 9-Jun-09, at 5:45 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: I may never leave if we do that. Maybe we should meet in front of that App store sales / splash demo on the second floor. That's where I'm suppose to meet Karl. On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Alan Zebchuk wrote: Should we meet at the Chieftan for a beer and then go from there? Alan On 2009-06-09, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alan.zebchuk%40fuegodigitalmedia.com This email sent to alan.zebc...@fuegodigitalmedia.com -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
I may never leave if we do that. Maybe we should meet in front of that App store sales / splash demo on the second floor. On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Alan Zebchuk wrote: Should we meet at the Chieftan for a beer and then go from there? Alan On 2009-06-09, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alan.zebchuk%40fuegodigitalmedia.com This email sent to alan.zebc...@fuegodigitalmedia.com -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
Should we meet at the Chieftan for a beer and then go from there? Alan On 2009-06-09, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alan.zebchuk%40fuegodigitalmedia.com This email sent to alan.zebc...@fuegodigitalmedia.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
I didn't really sleep good last night and today was pretty long. So I'm heading back. Dang, I just read that someone suggested Thai h that really makes me reconsider! = Robert = On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Alan Zebchuk wrote: Karl, Daniel, and I are in for dinner tonight. Alan On 2009-06-09, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alan.zebchuk% 40fuegodigitalmedia.com This email sent to alan.zebc...@fuegodigitalmedia.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/roberthana% 40scologistics.com This email sent to roberth...@scologistics.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
FYI, There is a good thai restaurant (Thai noodles) at 110 Powell st. and Ellis st. I will be there at 6:30 if anyone care to join. Regards, Kai On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
Karl, Daniel, and I are in for dinner tonight. Alan On 2009-06-09, at 4:36 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/alan.zebchuk%40fuegodigitalmedia.com This email sent to alan.zebc...@fuegodigitalmedia.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:33 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions There is that Mexican place we walked by. Or that Indian place. :-P Greasy, nasty Chinese food anyone? That Chinese place up past the gate was OK last year. I might be able to find a good Thai place. I think I recall where it is. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
On 2009-06-09, at 7:29 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. I think that Karl and I will be doing the ADAs and Stump tonight, but we're probably game for dinner. Open to suggestions ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
[WWDC] Supper Plans for Tuesday?
Anyone for a meet-up tonight? I got some sleep last night so I could be talked into a beer or two as well. -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
The Mexican chef last year was better. On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: One caveat - an essential requirement for any WOWODC venue is that there is an Indian Restaurant with a Russian chef ;-) On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Yes please :-). There are some excellent venues here for a WOWODC size conference. As for accommodation, the hotels are chep now - and I can fit about 10 people in my apartment if you bring mattresses. Just imagine - the WO pajama party! - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Yes please :-). There are some excellent venues here for a WOWODC size conference. As for accommodation, the hotels are chep now - and I can fit about 10 people in my apartment if you bring mattresses. Just imagine - the WO pajama party! You had better hope there are no Indian restaurants there! -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:27 AM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Especially if we each had one of those famous Icelandic Coffee Hoses! -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWWDC Slides?
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: Now that I've read about Gianduia, I'm hot to buy the WOWWDC slides. Any idea when they will be published? From Pascal, a little more than an hour ago: People asked this question many times, so let's answer it. IF the audio for the sessions is ok, we might be able to sell the recordings at the beginning of July. So I will send an update to the list in July about that. Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Hudson gives awt.headless error
AWT is not properly configured on this server. Perhaps you need to run your container with "-Djava.awt.headless=true"? do that ... you can put it in your tomcat startup jvm options list ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Snow Leopard / iPhone SDK 3.0 / WebObjects Install / Labs
There's no good reason to install WO from the iPhone SDK that I can think so. It's not a new version as far as I know and even if it was it probably wouldn't be a good idea to upgrade to it immediately. John On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:31 PM, George Domurot wrote: > Maybe so... and the Lab sessions dates/times? > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:20 PM, David Avendasora wrote: > > I'm not there, but I'm guessing this is an NDA subject that shouldn't be > discussed on this list. > (unfortunately!) > > Dave > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, George Domurot wrote: > > Is it safe to install the new SDK w/WO install option? > Any official word on dev+SnowLeo? > > Any official WO Lab sessions dates/times during WWDC? > > -G > > -- > George Domurot > geo...@boxofficetickets.com > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com > > This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com > > > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com > > This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Snow Leopard / iPhone SDK 3.0 / WebObjects Install / Labs
Maybe so... and the Lab sessions dates/times? On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:20 PM, David Avendasora wrote: I'm not there, but I'm guessing this is an NDA subject that shouldn't be discussed on this list. (unfortunately!) Dave On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, George Domurot wrote: Is it safe to install the new SDK w/WO install option? Any official word on dev+SnowLeo? Any official WO Lab sessions dates/times during WWDC? -G -- George Domurot geo...@boxofficetickets.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Snow Leopard / iPhone SDK 3.0 / WebObjects Install / Labs
I'm not there, but I'm guessing this is an NDA subject that shouldn't be discussed on this list. (unfortunately!) Dave On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, George Domurot wrote: Is it safe to install the new SDK w/WO install option? Any official word on dev+SnowLeo? Any official WO Lab sessions dates/times during WWDC? -G -- George Domurot geo...@boxofficetickets.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
WOWWDC Slides?
Now that I've read about Gianduia, I'm hot to buy the WOWWDC slides. Any idea when they will be published? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Snow Leopard / iPhone SDK 3.0 / WebObjects Install / Labs
Is it safe to install the new SDK w/WO install option? Any official word on dev+SnowLeo? Any official WO Lab sessions dates/times during WWDC? -G -- George Domurot geo...@boxofficetickets.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Joe Little wrote: > Much thanks on that last paragraph. I wouldn't have gathered that from > the presentation, but it now makes me smile just a little more now :) > sorry, this is in regards to using these technologies in basic web pages just as much as a full RIA > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: >>> No, I thought it wasn't really clear either - I thought it was local >>> storage at first too, but it's not - It's a Javascript CoreData >>> implementation accessing an ERXRest backend on the server. If I'm wrong >>> someone please correct me. >>> >>> Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in >>> Javascript, which is a fairly large task. >>> >>> But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much >>> cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. >>> >>> Yes, but CoreData != EOF. They are similar, but not the same. I'm not >>> sure why they chose CoreData instead of EOF; maybe since CoreData was newly >>> designed it is actually better than EOF; I don't know, I haven't used it. >>> >>> Okay. I must have misunderstood that part of the presentation. I thought >>> that CoreData was there just for local persistence of things and that it >>> _also_ had EOF-like ECs also. >> >> Not sure what part of EOF you feel like you would be missing, but it should >> have most of the parts that matter. It has the equivalent of an >> EditingContext via NSManagedObjectContext. So you have in-memory change >> tracking pretty similar to what you would in EOF. Additionally, you have >> multiple persistent store implementations. Right now, the implementations >> are mostly pragmatic for the particular use cases of Gianduia -- so actually >> there is NOT an HTML5 one implemented yet, but this is almost certainly an >> impl that would be desirable to have. >> >> As far as why Gianduia doesn't use EOF, I would GUESS that it's because the >> js side is Cocoa and CD was the newer kid on the block, so it just made >> sense. Additionally, CD is sort of stripped down, and many of the things >> they removed are not that big of a loss for the use cases one would use this >> kind of persistence layer with. >> >> There are obviously differences between EOF and CoreData, and Gianduia does >> share those differences. For instance, there is not a centralized snapshot >> store in CoreData -- snapshots are stored in the NSMOC, so you don't get >> update notifications across NSMOC. Whether this will be a problem or not >> with the kinds of apps people will want to make with GIanduia remains to be >> seen .. It's unclear what the best practices of these kinds of apps will be. >> That said, Gianduia is "highly inspired" by Cocoa, but not "required to be >> identical" to it, so if it makes sense to deviate, that's certainly on the >> table. I think Benoit has done a great job at adapting the philosophy of >> Cocoa to a Javascript framework. He's what I would consider a Javascript >> expert, and he exploits the capabilities of the language where it's >> appropriate, and the result so far has been a really good balance. >> >> For the question about EODistribution, it's important to note that Gianduia >> doesn't just talk to WO. It can talk to anything. I'm assuming when the >> persistence layer was originally written, it was desirably to not require a >> very complicated server to communicate with. As it stands, you can talk to >> a Rails server if you want -- it doesn't have to fully implement all the >> semantics of EOF to do what it needs to do. That said, when the richer >> persistence features become available (like bulk faulting in a single >> request), this WILL require a more complicated server implementation, so it >> remains to be seen exactly what will be required on a server to get the bare >> minimum of capabilities. However, as it stands, you don't have to implement >> a server side of much at all, because you can manually load snapshots into >> your NSMOC from data you fetch manually ... In my demo, I was actually doing >> that in several places. This gives you a lot of freedom of not necessarily >> being locked into exactly the semantics of either EOF OR CD. >> >> Additionally, I find the modeling controls for JavaClient to be pretty >> lacking -- in particular with respect to ACL controls on JavaClient >> properties. It feels like that was something they stuck into EOF without >> really solving the problem well. In many ways, what these frameworks allow >> is truly partial faulting -- I can selectively return a subset of an EO/MO >> that specifically provides what the client needs with a minimal footprint. >> If you look at something like MobileMe, You can imagine that the model on >> the backend for, for instance, a mail folder might be extensive, but >> depending on what the client is doing at different times, you may only what >> specific subsets of that entity. At first, you may literally only car
Re: Rich Clients and WO
Much thanks on that last paragraph. I wouldn't have gathered that from the presentation, but it now makes me smile just a little more now :) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: >> No, I thought it wasn't really clear either - I thought it was local >> storage at first too, but it's not - It's a Javascript CoreData >> implementation accessing an ERXRest backend on the server. If I'm wrong >> someone please correct me. >> >> Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in >> Javascript, which is a fairly large task. >> >> But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much >> cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. >> >> Yes, but CoreData != EOF. They are similar, but not the same. I'm not >> sure why they chose CoreData instead of EOF; maybe since CoreData was newly >> designed it is actually better than EOF; I don't know, I haven't used it. >> >> Okay. I must have misunderstood that part of the presentation. I thought >> that CoreData was there just for local persistence of things and that it >> _also_ had EOF-like ECs also. > > Not sure what part of EOF you feel like you would be missing, but it should > have most of the parts that matter. It has the equivalent of an > EditingContext via NSManagedObjectContext. So you have in-memory change > tracking pretty similar to what you would in EOF. Additionally, you have > multiple persistent store implementations. Right now, the implementations > are mostly pragmatic for the particular use cases of Gianduia -- so actually > there is NOT an HTML5 one implemented yet, but this is almost certainly an > impl that would be desirable to have. > > As far as why Gianduia doesn't use EOF, I would GUESS that it's because the > js side is Cocoa and CD was the newer kid on the block, so it just made > sense. Additionally, CD is sort of stripped down, and many of the things > they removed are not that big of a loss for the use cases one would use this > kind of persistence layer with. > > There are obviously differences between EOF and CoreData, and Gianduia does > share those differences. For instance, there is not a centralized snapshot > store in CoreData -- snapshots are stored in the NSMOC, so you don't get > update notifications across NSMOC. Whether this will be a problem or not > with the kinds of apps people will want to make with GIanduia remains to be > seen .. It's unclear what the best practices of these kinds of apps will be. > That said, Gianduia is "highly inspired" by Cocoa, but not "required to be > identical" to it, so if it makes sense to deviate, that's certainly on the > table. I think Benoit has done a great job at adapting the philosophy of > Cocoa to a Javascript framework. He's what I would consider a Javascript > expert, and he exploits the capabilities of the language where it's > appropriate, and the result so far has been a really good balance. > > For the question about EODistribution, it's important to note that Gianduia > doesn't just talk to WO. It can talk to anything. I'm assuming when the > persistence layer was originally written, it was desirably to not require a > very complicated server to communicate with. As it stands, you can talk to > a Rails server if you want -- it doesn't have to fully implement all the > semantics of EOF to do what it needs to do. That said, when the richer > persistence features become available (like bulk faulting in a single > request), this WILL require a more complicated server implementation, so it > remains to be seen exactly what will be required on a server to get the bare > minimum of capabilities. However, as it stands, you don't have to implement > a server side of much at all, because you can manually load snapshots into > your NSMOC from data you fetch manually ... In my demo, I was actually doing > that in several places. This gives you a lot of freedom of not necessarily > being locked into exactly the semantics of either EOF OR CD. > > Additionally, I find the modeling controls for JavaClient to be pretty > lacking -- in particular with respect to ACL controls on JavaClient > properties. It feels like that was something they stuck into EOF without > really solving the problem well. In many ways, what these frameworks allow > is truly partial faulting -- I can selectively return a subset of an EO/MO > that specifically provides what the client needs with a minimal footprint. > If you look at something like MobileMe, You can imagine that the model on > the backend for, for instance, a mail folder might be extensive, but > depending on what the client is doing at different times, you may only what > specific subsets of that entity. At first, you may literally only care > about title (and maybe "unread message count"). When I drill into it, I may > want more info about the folder like my size restrictions, and various > properties on the folder. JavaClient and EO don't support partial faulting >
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
I'm thinking of asking in which timezone and city people are in the next survey, it might help to find how much it cost to go to specific places and how low the flight takes. Return flights to iceland from Tampa are four times that of going to SFO. A popular destination (more popular than iceland ;-) ) is probably important to get reasonable flights cost. On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:36 AM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 09-06-09 à 11:27, David Avendasora a écrit : On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! And it should be a hell lot cheaper than Paris or Roma! Or London, or Belfast, or Zagreb, or Tirana, or. :-) Dave Dave +1 Henrique Gomes ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
Just gotta say: awesome! Thanks for sharing the pics. ...maybe next year I'll finally make it up there. (June is a tough month for me.) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
WOWODC recordings
Hello everyone, People asked this question many times, so let's answer it. IF the audio for the sessions is ok, we might be able to sell the recordings at the beginning of July. So I will send an update to the list in July about that. And I would like to say thank you to everyone who either presented or attended. I think we can call it a success. Special thanks to everyone who helped me on site (Guido, Mark R, David LB, Joe L, Bill Chin, I hope I didn't forget someone :-)). --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Not sure what part of EOF ... btw, why can't you go back to asking EASY questions where I don't have to work so hard :) Can I have a pony? Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Hudson gives awt.headless error
After the inspirational presentations at the WOWODC I immediately started to change my whole build and deployment environment with Hudson, maven and Capistrano, my WOLips environment with JavaRebel and my testing environment (well..., the last thing will have to wait, because Real Men Don't Test, They Swallow). Starting with Hudson, I did the Mike one minute thing: * install Tomcat from macports (60 mins) * create an administrative user in /opt/local/share/java/tomcat6/conf/ tomcat-users.xml (20 mins to find out where the user should be and how not to restart tomcat) something along the line of: (remember this is testing) * Start tomcat, (1 min) sudo launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.macports.tomcat6.plist * download Hudson (50 mins, long live Whitcomb Wanderless Wireless!) * install Hudson in Tomcat (15 mins, once by hand and once by download interface in Tomcat because I did not see the hudson.war unwrapping, which it did right after I decided to try it via the download option in tomcat manager), And then I had hudson in Tomcat (96 mins Yah!, good I don't do live presentations.) Then I got two errors: first it tried to write something in /var/ root/.hudson, which I somehow did not agree with, I don't know why, it seems soo... Windows, so I created a /opt/local/var/db/hudson and set hudson to store it's stuff over there by adding export HUDSON_HOME=/opt/local/var/db/hudson to /opt/local/share/java/tomcat6/conf/setenv.local and creating that folder with ownership _www:_www the next error I got was: AWT is not properly configured on this server. Perhaps you need to run your container with "-Djava.awt.headless=true"? java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to window server - not enough permissions. Does anybody know how I can get rid of that error? Regards, Johan Henselmans http://www.netsense.nl Tel: +31-20-6267538 Fax: +31-20-6279159 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
Not sure what part of EOF ... btw, why can't you go back to asking EASY questions where I don't have to work so hard :) ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: I need some help with this Ajax Dom stuff
i'm not sure what the problem is? just surround the thing you want to add items to in an AjaxUpdateContainer and when they click an AjaxSubmitButton "add," you add another entry to the array, which causes an extra set of fields to appear in the repetition when it refreshes. The problem is if you want to be very compact with the wire protocol and ONLY send the extra fields across -- that's a use case we don't support. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote: :S:S:S:S:S I wanna cry! . so if I understood good. the WORepetition its gonna be on the top of that bunch of code, then the AJaxUpdatecontainer, and inside all those divs... and damn ... what about having all that inside another woform, and sending the nono that wouldn't work also.. .. .. let me digest this more.. thx G On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: now I want to add another div pUnitsPart, in case there is one or more info of the same kind, I was thinking int using DOM, to create more span elements and use appenChild method of the element allUnits. but I don't know how to handle with those WOTextFields I have, they have a binding with their pair in the.java, so I got lost here because I dunno how to create them and make the binding.. :'( sniff sniff Im not expert in this stuff, but novice, so any help I can get will be really appreciate it. easiest way is to just wrap the whole thing in an update container and put it in a repetition. this is a particular hard scenario for wo+ajax to do, which is the dynamically growing repetition without resending the whole table. i did some work on this a while back, and it's possible to do, but it requires a lot more coordination between the client and the server (because you have to inject the html from the server into the dom vs just letting it replace), and things can get weird because of element ids. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
No, I thought it wasn't really clear either - I thought it was local storage at first too, but it's not - It's a Javascript CoreData implementation accessing an ERXRest backend on the server. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in Javascript, which is a fairly large task. But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. Yes, but CoreData != EOF. They are similar, but not the same. I'm not sure why they chose CoreData instead of EOF; maybe since CoreData was newly designed it is actually better than EOF; I don't know, I haven't used it. Okay. I must have misunderstood that part of the presentation. I thought that CoreData was there just for local persistence of things and that it _also_ had EOF-like ECs also. Not sure what part of EOF you feel like you would be missing, but it should have most of the parts that matter. It has the equivalent of an EditingContext via NSManagedObjectContext. So you have in-memory change tracking pretty similar to what you would in EOF. Additionally, you have multiple persistent store implementations. Right now, the implementations are mostly pragmatic for the particular use cases of Gianduia -- so actually there is NOT an HTML5 one implemented yet, but this is almost certainly an impl that would be desirable to have. As far as why Gianduia doesn't use EOF, I would GUESS that it's because the js side is Cocoa and CD was the newer kid on the block, so it just made sense. Additionally, CD is sort of stripped down, and many of the things they removed are not that big of a loss for the use cases one would use this kind of persistence layer with. There are obviously differences between EOF and CoreData, and Gianduia does share those differences. For instance, there is not a centralized snapshot store in CoreData -- snapshots are stored in the NSMOC, so you don't get update notifications across NSMOC. Whether this will be a problem or not with the kinds of apps people will want to make with GIanduia remains to be seen .. It's unclear what the best practices of these kinds of apps will be. That said, Gianduia is "highly inspired" by Cocoa, but not "required to be identical" to it, so if it makes sense to deviate, that's certainly on the table. I think Benoit has done a great job at adapting the philosophy of Cocoa to a Javascript framework. He's what I would consider a Javascript expert, and he exploits the capabilities of the language where it's appropriate, and the result so far has been a really good balance. For the question about EODistribution, it's important to note that Gianduia doesn't just talk to WO. It can talk to anything. I'm assuming when the persistence layer was originally written, it was desirably to not require a very complicated server to communicate with. As it stands, you can talk to a Rails server if you want -- it doesn't have to fully implement all the semantics of EOF to do what it needs to do. That said, when the richer persistence features become available (like bulk faulting in a single request), this WILL require a more complicated server implementation, so it remains to be seen exactly what will be required on a server to get the bare minimum of capabilities. However, as it stands, you don't have to implement a server side of much at all, because you can manually load snapshots into your NSMOC from data you fetch manually ... In my demo, I was actually doing that in several places. This gives you a lot of freedom of not necessarily being locked into exactly the semantics of either EOF OR CD. Additionally, I find the modeling controls for JavaClient to be pretty lacking -- in particular with respect to ACL controls on JavaClient properties. It feels like that was something they stuck into EOF without really solving the problem well. In many ways, what these frameworks allow is truly partial faulting -- I can selectively return a subset of an EO/MO that specifically provides what the client needs with a minimal footprint. If you look at something like MobileMe, You can imagine that the model on the backend for, for instance, a mail folder might be extensive, but depending on what the client is doing at different times, you may only what specific subsets of that entity. At first, you may literally only care about title (and maybe "unread message count"). When I drill into it, I may want more info about the folder like my size restrictions, and various properties on the folder. JavaClient and EO don't support partial faulting of an object right now, and it's something that I've found to be really nice when trying to optimize bandwidth for remote clients. My other goal with the ERRest framework (or ERXRest .. i have no idea what it real
Re: I need some help with this Ajax Dom stuff
:S:S:S:S:S I wanna cry! . so if I understood good. the WORepetition its gonna be on the top of that bunch of code, then the AJaxUpdatecontainer, and inside all those divs... and damn ... what about having all that inside another woform, and sending the nono that wouldn't work also.. .. .. let me digest this more.. thx G On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: now I want to add another div pUnitsPart, in case there is one or more info of the same kind, I was thinking int using DOM, to create more span elements and use appenChild method of the element allUnits. but I don't know how to handle with those WOTextFields I have, they have a binding with their pair in the.java, so I got lost here because I dunno how to create them and make the binding.. :'( sniff sniff Im not expert in this stuff, but novice, so any help I can get will be really appreciate it. easiest way is to just wrap the whole thing in an update container and put it in a repetition. this is a particular hard scenario for wo +ajax to do, which is the dynamically growing repetition without resending the whole table. i did some work on this a while back, and it's possible to do, but it requires a lot more coordination between the client and the server (because you have to inject the html from the server into the dom vs just letting it replace), and things can get weird because of element ids. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
No, I thought it wasn't really clear either - I thought it was local storage at first too, but it's not - It's a Javascript CoreData implementation accessing an ERXRest backend on the server. If I'm wrong someone please correct me. John On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM, David Avendasora wrote: > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, John Huss wrote: > > >> Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in >>> Javascript, which is a fairly large task. >>> >> >> But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much >> cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. >> >> Yes, but CoreData != EOF. They are similar, but not the same. I'm not >> sure why they chose CoreData instead of EOF; maybe since CoreData was newly >> designed it is actually better than EOF; I don't know, I haven't used it. >> > > Okay. I must have misunderstood that part of the presentation. I thought > that CoreData was there just for local persistence of things and that it > _also_ had EOF-like ECs also. > > Too much WOWODC content, too too few notes! > > Dave > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
... that is empty enough to accomodate 30 WO developers whenever the urge strikes :-) On 9-Jun-09, at 9:22 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: One caveat - an essential requirement for any WOWODC venue is that there is an Indian Restaurant with a Russian chef ;-) On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Yes please :-). There are some excellent venues here for a WOWODC size conference. As for accommodation, the hotels are chep now - and I can fit about 10 people in my apartment if you bring mattresses. Just imagine - the WO pajama party! - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists% 40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx %40mac.com This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, John Huss wrote: Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in Javascript, which is a fairly large task. But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. Yes, but CoreData != EOF. They are similar, but not the same. I'm not sure why they chose CoreData instead of EOF; maybe since CoreData was newly designed it is actually better than EOF; I don't know, I haven't used it. Okay. I must have misunderstood that part of the presentation. I thought that CoreData was there just for local persistence of things and that it _also_ had EOF-like ECs also. Too much WOWODC content, too too few notes! Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
One caveat - an essential requirement for any WOWODC venue is that there is an Indian Restaurant with a Russian chef ;-) On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Yes please :-). There are some excellent venues here for a WOWODC size conference. As for accommodation, the hotels are chep now - and I can fit about 10 people in my apartment if you bring mattresses. Just imagine - the WO pajama party! - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: I need some help with this Ajax Dom stuff
now I want to add another div pUnitsPart, in case there is one or more info of the same kind, I was thinking int using DOM, to create more span elements and use appenChild method of the element allUnits. but I don't know how to handle with those WOTextFields I have, they have a binding with their pair in the.java, so I got lost here because I dunno how to create them and make the binding.. :'( sniff sniff Im not expert in this stuff, but novice, so any help I can get will be really appreciate it. easiest way is to just wrap the whole thing in an update container and put it in a repetition. this is a particular hard scenario for wo+ajax to do, which is the dynamically growing repetition without resending the whole table. i did some work on this a while back, and it's possible to do, but it requires a lot more coordination between the client and the server (because you have to inject the html from the server into the dom vs just letting it replace), and things can get weird because of element ids. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Yes please :-). There are some excellent venues here for a WOWODC size conference. As for accommodation, the hotels are chep now - and I can fit about 10 people in my apartment if you bring mattresses. Just imagine - the WO pajama party! I like Chunk, he's a great guy, but doood Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
> Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in > Javascript, which is a fairly large task. > > > But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much > cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. > Yes, but CoreData != EOF. They are similar, but not the same. I'm not sure why they chose CoreData instead of EOF; maybe since CoreData was newly designed it is actually better than EOF; I don't know, I haven't used it. John ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Yes please :-). There are some excellent venues here for a WOWODC size conference. As for accommodation, the hotels are chep now - and I can fit about 10 people in my apartment if you bring mattresses. Just imagine - the WO pajama party! - hugi ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
Return flights to iceland from Tampa are four times that of going to SFO. A popular destination (more popular than iceland ;-) ) is probably important to get reasonable flights cost. On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:36 AM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 09-06-09 à 11:27, David Avendasora a écrit : On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! And it should be a hell lot cheaper than Paris or Roma! Or London, or Belfast, or Zagreb, or Tirana, or. :-) Dave Dave +1 Henrique Gomes ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 09-06-09 à 11:27, David Avendasora a écrit : On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! And it should be a hell lot cheaper than Paris or Roma! Or London, or Belfast, or Zagreb, or Tirana, or. :-) Dave Dave +1 Henrique Gomes ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
Cannot wait for Gianduia ... hope Pierre Frisch & Co. release this soon. Gianduia, the new killer javascript technology for data-driven apps. On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:23 AM, David Avendasora wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:08 AM, John Huss wrote: I believe JavaClient uses the standard Java serialization, which is a binary format. Generating the format in Javascript is probably not feasible; if it was I'm sure the GWT folks would have used it, but they didn't. Hmmm. I wonder if it would be possible to get Apple to add the serialization methods to the EODistributionContext.Delegate interface so that you could pick something like JSON instead... Also, JavaClient's serialization is HEAVY since the whole EC is transferred (I think) with each request to the server,which kind of makes sense actually, but is possibly an expensive operation. Yeah. It would be heavy. I'm thinking though that as more and more devs start having to deal with manually specifying and transferring all the various EOs that they'll need to be able to make a truly rich interface, that in the end, simply transferring the EC will be best in most situations. Especially if you are using page-specific ECs. You certainly have a valid point about the large amount of data transferred between a rich client and the server, but in most cases you are greatly reducing the number of client-server transactions required to accomplish a given task. Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in Javascript, which is a fairly large task. But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. Dave John On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Avendasora > wrote: Hi all, I have a question that I think I can finally put into words after an excellent WOWODC, especially the session on Javascript Clients. Why not use the already built-in com.webobjects.eodistribution classes as the interface for passing EOs and such back and forth instead of re-inventing the wheel? This is how a JavaClient application passes EOs and ECs back and forth between the client and server, and the default method is HTTP using POST commands. Couldn't a Javascript client simply leverage that existing interface to the server-side EOF stack? Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kieran_lists%40mac.com This email sent to kieran_li...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
Le 09-06-09 à 11:27, David Avendasora a écrit : On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! And it should be a hell lot cheaper than Paris or Roma! Dave +1 Henrique Gomes ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Is Iceland Europe enough? Imagine how many sessions we could fit into one day during an Icelandic summer! Dave +1 Henrique Gomes ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:08 AM, John Huss wrote: I believe JavaClient uses the standard Java serialization, which is a binary format. Generating the format in Javascript is probably not feasible; if it was I'm sure the GWT folks would have used it, but they didn't. Hmmm. I wonder if it would be possible to get Apple to add the serialization methods to the EODistributionContext.Delegate interface so that you could pick something like JSON instead... Also, JavaClient's serialization is HEAVY since the whole EC is transferred (I think) with each request to the server,which kind of makes sense actually, but is possibly an expensive operation. Yeah. It would be heavy. I'm thinking though that as more and more devs start having to deal with manually specifying and transferring all the various EOs that they'll need to be able to make a truly rich interface, that in the end, simply transferring the EC will be best in most situations. Especially if you are using page-specific ECs. You certainly have a valid point about the large amount of data transferred between a rich client and the server, but in most cases you are greatly reducing the number of client-server transactions required to accomplish a given task. Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in Javascript, which is a fairly large task. But I thought that was part of what Gianduia did and what made it so much cooler than last years rich-client-of-the-moment Sprout Core. Dave John On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Avendasora > wrote: Hi all, I have a question that I think I can finally put into words after an excellent WOWODC, especially the session on Javascript Clients. Why not use the already built-in com.webobjects.eodistribution classes as the interface for passing EOs and such back and forth instead of re-inventing the wheel? This is how a JavaClient application passes EOs and ECs back and forth between the client and server, and the default method is HTTP using POST commands. Couldn't a Javascript client simply leverage that existing interface to the server-side EOF stack? Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! +1 Henrique Gomes ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
I believe JavaClient uses the standard Java serialization, which is a binary format. Generating the format in Javascript is probably not feasible; if it was I'm sure the GWT folks would have used it, but they didn't. Also, JavaClient's serialization is HEAVY since the whole EC is transferred (I think) with each request to the server,which kind of makes sense actually, but is possibly an expensive operation. Also, you would have to rewrite EOEditingContext and related classes in Javascript, which is a fairly large task. John On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Avendasora wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question that I think I can finally put into words after an > excellent WOWODC, especially the session on Javascript Clients. > > Why not use the already built-in com.webobjects.eodistribution classes as > the interface for passing EOs and such back and forth instead of > re-inventing the wheel? This is how a JavaClient application passes EOs and > ECs back and forth between the client and server, and the default method is > HTTP using POST commands. Couldn't a Javascript client simply leverage that > existing interface to the server-side EOF stack? > > Dave > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com > > This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
But you opened it. If I had written "Java Client does Client Side WO Best," you never would have. :-P Dave On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: Damn, that was a disappointment. I opened this thread and was hoping for a viable "get rich quick" scheme! - hugi On 9.6.2009, at 14:57, David Avendasora wrote: Hi all, I have a question that I think I can finally put into words after an excellent WOWODC, especially the session on Javascript Clients. Why not use the already built-in com.webobjects.eodistribution classes as the interface for passing EOs and such back and forth instead of re-inventing the wheel? This is how a JavaClient application passes EOs and ECs back and forth between the client and server, and the default method is HTTP using POST commands. Couldn't a Javascript client simply leverage that existing interface to the server-side EOF stack? Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hugi%40karlmenn.is This email sent to h...@karlmenn.is ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Rich Clients and WO
Damn, that was a disappointment. I opened this thread and was hoping for a viable "get rich quick" scheme! - hugi On 9.6.2009, at 14:57, David Avendasora wrote: Hi all, I have a question that I think I can finally put into words after an excellent WOWODC, especially the session on Javascript Clients. Why not use the already built-in com.webobjects.eodistribution classes as the interface for passing EOs and such back and forth instead of re-inventing the wheel? This is how a JavaClient application passes EOs and ECs back and forth between the client and server, and the default method is HTTP using POST commands. Couldn't a Javascript client simply leverage that existing interface to the server-side EOF stack? Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hugi%40karlmenn.is This email sent to h...@karlmenn.is ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Rich Clients and WO
Hi all, I have a question that I think I can finally put into words after an excellent WOWODC, especially the session on Javascript Clients. Why not use the already built-in com.webobjects.eodistribution classes as the interface for passing EOs and such back and forth instead of re- inventing the wheel? This is how a JavaClient application passes EOs and ECs back and forth between the client and server, and the default method is HTTP using POST commands. Couldn't a Javascript client simply leverage that existing interface to the server-side EOF stack? Dave ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
That's one idea we have. The other one is to do it in the East Coast (Montreal, Boston, Orlando, whatever) so that it's right in the middle between West coast and Europe. Or we can do a WOWODC West and a WOWODC Europe. It depends on cost and attendance. Let me try to ask a qustion... is a bad idea to have a day a WOWODC also in Europe, perhaps Italy ? how many people would like to participate ? If there is interest, I can take care of organization, let me know Regards Amedeo On 09/giu/09, at 16:13, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote: nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
I need some help with this Ajax Dom stuff
Well I thought I knew how to do it, but, eventually I don't. I have the following in the html: Unit Name :class="infoUnits"> Price :class="infoUnits"> Received Date: class="infoUnits"> + now I want to add another div pUnitsPart, in case there is one or more info of the same kind, I was thinking int using DOM, to create more span elements and use appenChild method of the element allUnits. but I don't know how to handle with those WOTextFields I have, they have a binding with their pair in the.java, so I got lost here because I dunno how to create them and make the binding.. :'( sniff sniff Im not expert in this stuff, but novice, so any help I can get will be really appreciate it. Thx Gustavo ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
That would be awsome !! .. Im in slovakia!! :D:D:D G On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Frédéric JECKER wrote: WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Frédéric JECKER Chef de projet technique GIP s...@ris Pavillon 1 27 rue du 4ème RSM B.P. 29 F-68250 ROUFFACH Tél : +33 (0)3 89 78 79 02 Courriel : f.jec...@symaris.com Web : http://www.symaris.com Le 9 juin 09 à 16:37, Amedeo Mantica a écrit : Let me try to ask a qustion... is a bad idea to have a day a WOWODC also in Europe, perhaps Italy ? how many people would like to participate ? If there is interest, I can take care of organization, let me know Regards Amedeo On 09/giu/09, at 16:13, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote: nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/f.jecker%40symaris.com This email sent to f.jec...@symaris.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
WOWODC Europe would be a great idea !! Frédéric JECKER Chef de projet technique GIP s...@ris Pavillon 1 27 rue du 4ème RSM B.P. 29 F-68250 ROUFFACH Tél : +33 (0)3 89 78 79 02 Courriel : f.jec...@symaris.com Web : http://www.symaris.com Le 9 juin 09 à 16:37, Amedeo Mantica a écrit : Let me try to ask a qustion... is a bad idea to have a day a WOWODC also in Europe, perhaps Italy ? how many people would like to participate ? If there is interest, I can take care of organization, let me know Regards Amedeo On 09/giu/09, at 16:13, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote: nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/f.jecker%40symaris.com This email sent to f.jec...@symaris.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
I have never had problems with food, anything that moves, walk or fly, its food for me. :P not extremes please... :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Be ready to eat India and Chinese food for a couple of days :-) nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
Let me try to ask a qustion... is a bad idea to have a day a WOWODC also in Europe, perhaps Italy ? how many people would like to participate ? If there is interest, I can take care of organization, let me know Regards Amedeo On 09/giu/09, at 16:13, Gustavo Adolfo Pizano wrote: nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
Be ready to eat India and Chinese food for a couple of days :-) nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca --- Pascal Robert http://www.macti.ca | http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Skype | Twitter | AIM/iChat : MacTICanada ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Ajax problem with Wonder and Eclipse
Yep, that xCodeMigration tool is still useful and yes, I installed xCode 2.5 and WO 5.4 from xCode 3.1.2 -Carlos ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC - a few pics
nice, at least i know how everyone looks for next year WOWWDC. :P G On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjectspicora%40gmail.com This email sent to webobjectspic...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
WOWODC - a few pics
A couple of pics from WOWODC 2009. What a great event it was! There was a great sharing of knowledge and wisdom, as well as us all seeing some amazingly cool stuff to is "coming soon"! I met many, many people and have a lot of business cards, but I have a problem putting definite names with 2 of the faces in these pics, ( (1) || (3) ) && (4), especially after the red-eye flight home on Sunday night erased some memory, so will someone please send me the 2 missing names (I think 4 = Bill Gallop from Strata Health?, but not 100% sure). Also, if any name is wrong, let me know asap! http://gallery.me.com/kelleherk/100137 Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
