Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Ritchie
Hi Chuck!

On 14/Jan/2010, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
 Yes, I believe that's the intended behaviour... The DatabaseContext tracks 
 that newly created EO and throws an exception if you attempt to modify and 
 then save it.
 Almost, it throws when the fault is fired.

Hrm, in test case that I constructed, that's not what I observe.
I'm using WOF 5.4.3, Java 1.5 on my development machine.

Using the Movies EOModel and local mysql:
I fetch a Talent EO.
I ask for it's photo and get back a fault for the TalentPhoto EO (as expected.)
I fire the fault and get back a TalentPhoto EO with PK set and nil values.
EODatabaseContext.objectsWithMissingGlobalIds() confirms that it's tracking the 
TalentPhoto EO for me.
I make a change to the Talent EO and save it.
All is good.
I make changes to TalentPhoto:set a photo and set it's talent relationship to 
the Talent EO.
Then when I try to save changes, EOF tosses a EOObjectNotAvailableException 
with this explanation:

prepareForSaveWithCoordinator: Cannot save the object with globalID 
_EOIntegralKeyGlobalID[TalentPhoto (java.lang.Integer)1]. The row referenced by 
this globalID was missing from the database at the time a fetch was attempted. 
Either it was removed from the database after this application got a pointer to 
it, or there is a referential integrity problem with your database. To be 
notified when fetches fail, implement a delegate on EODatabaseContext that 
responds to databaseContextFailedToFetchObject().

That explanation seems to match what I've done and the behaviour seems to match 
the documentation for EODatabaseContext's delegate 
databaseContextFailedToFetchObject().  http://tr.im/dcdelegate

What am I doing differently then you?
M.

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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Chuck;

Assuming an instance with concurrent request processing turned on, if there are 
a number of sessions (or even stateless users) on the same instance with a 
large volume of transactions, will the streaming WORequest multiplex with the 
other requests?  My understanding was that the WebObjects adaptor queues 
requests into an instance rather than multiplexes them.

So if a large transaction arrives from a slow pipe, will it not block the other 
requests until either the adaptor times it out or a response is returned to the 
client?

PS: The javadoc for WORequests refers to the wis request handler -- I hadn't 
heard of this one before!

cheers.

 Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are, there should 
 not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen uploads of large files over 
 slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a very, very long time with no 
 timeout.
...
 I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who are using 
 that instance will get blocked and may reach their timeouts.
...
 In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block since 
 WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that sound correct?

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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Anjo;

Does each apache handling thread eventually have an on-going connection to 
every instance in the deployment?

cheers.

 The (apache) adaptor maintains a connection per-thread. So you can easily 
 have a slow and a fast request concurrently. Only when they land in the app, 
 depending on if you have CCR on or off they will queue up.

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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Anjo Krank


Am 15.01.2010 um 09:58 schrieb Andrew Lindesay:
Does each apache handling thread eventually have an on-going  
connection to every instance in the deployment?


Yes? No? Doesn't compute?

When you have - say - two instances and two requests and the one isn't  
finished when the second comes in, yeah, sure. But they close down  
when they are done.


Cheers, Anjo
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Re: Using ERRest but with extensions for non EOF back-end

2010-01-15 Thread Brook, James
The existing API uses the entity delegate API.

On 14 Jan 2010, at 17:38, Mike Schrag wrote:

 are you use the entity delegate api or the route controller api?

 On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Brook, James wrote:

 We have a WebObjects application that uses the ERRest framework to
 provide a RESTful API over our EOModel. We now want to extend the API
 to cover some other legacy back-office services and persistence
 mechanisms as well. The plan is to use fairly plain Java objects and
 perhaps key value coding. Is there a straightforward path to support
 this, while making the RESTful API look seamless across the EOF and
 the alternative back-end logic? I am concerned that we might have to
 make lots of adaptations to support this model.

 Any tips would be very much appreciated.

 --
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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread mschrag
I thought that as long as bytes are flowing that the request won't  
timeout. Isn't the adaptor timeout based on lack of activity? I'm with  
chuck --- I have an app that does enormous (multigig) uploada to a DA  
without any timeouts.


ms

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Chuck Hillch...@global-village.net  
wrote:


It has been a while since I implemented this.  I think the  
streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.  What bindings  
are you using?


Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

   I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post  
to handle the upload.


- Joe

On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote:

Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are,  
there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen  
uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go  
on for a very, very long time with no timeout.



Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Thanks for the reply.

I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block  
since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that  
sound correct?


On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Joe;

My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is  
broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in  
sequence into a stream.  I haven't explicitly tested this from  
iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS- 
X to move video files around.  You could build something similar  
to this.


I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


cheers.

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file  
upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that  
takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just  
set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten  
minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections?


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Re: Using ERRest but with extensions for non EOF back-end

2010-01-15 Thread Mike Schrag
Pretty sure you can't do this ... I think the entity delegate stuff is entirely 
EOEntity-baed. When I made the newer route controller approach, support for 
non-entity objects was part of the requirements for it. I started to backport 
it to the entity delegates, but it was just too big of a change for an API and 
it would have caused problems with the D2Rest code, which requires entities. 
You COULD choose to mix the entity delegates and newer stuff, i think ... So 
you don't have to throw away the code you've already written for the entity 
delegates.

ms

On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Brook, James wrote:

 The existing API uses the entity delegate API.
 
 On 14 Jan 2010, at 17:38, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 are you use the entity delegate api or the route controller api?
 
 On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Brook, James wrote:
 
 We have a WebObjects application that uses the ERRest framework to
 provide a RESTful API over our EOModel. We now want to extend the API
 to cover some other legacy back-office services and persistence
 mechanisms as well. The plan is to use fairly plain Java objects and
 perhaps key value coding. Is there a straightforward path to support
 this, while making the RESTful API look seamless across the EOF and
 the alternative back-end logic? I am concerned that we might have to
 make lots of adaptations to support this model.
 
 Any tips would be very much appreciated.
 
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Re: D2WS Assistant

2010-01-15 Thread Ramsey Lee Gurley
I couldn't get the WSAssistant to work at all.  With or without wonder, it 
seems totally broken. Also, D2WS in 5.4 will not work with Wonder's D2W, 
because it requires that the rule model descends from D2WFastModel or some 
such.  Also, WOWS fails on WSDLs with XSD imports, so if you are trying to 
client with a server that isn't WO, be aware.

Ramsey

On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Mat Johnson wrote:

 Does the Assistant still work in WO 5.4 and Eclipse or is it right to the 
 Rules Editor?
 
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Re: Using ERRest but with extensions for non EOF back-end

2010-01-15 Thread Brook, James
Thank you Mike. I hadn't seen the route controller approach until you  
mentioned it. I think it's perfect for our needs - brilliant! We were  
already working on the idea that we would have two separate API apps  
because one part is mission critical and the other is a less important  
layer over the top. There are no collisions in the end points, so we  
hope to includes the EOEntity based one in both apps and extend on it  
with the non EO stuff in just one of the apps. Hopefully the two  
approaches will mix nicely with each other.

On 15 Jan 2010, at 13:19, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Pretty sure you can't do this ... I think the entity delegate stuff  
 is entirely EOEntity-baed. When I made the newer route controller  
 approach, support for non-entity objects was part of the  
 requirements for it. I started to backport it to the entity  
 delegates, but it was just too big of a change for an API and it  
 would have caused problems with the D2Rest code, which requires  
 entities. You COULD choose to mix the entity delegates and newer  
 stuff, i think ... So you don't have to throw away the code you've  
 already written for the entity delegates.

 ms

 On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Brook, James wrote:

 The existing API uses the entity delegate API.

 On 14 Jan 2010, at 17:38, Mike Schrag wrote:

 are you use the entity delegate api or the route controller api?

 On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Brook, James wrote:

 We have a WebObjects application that uses the ERRest framework to
 provide a RESTful API over our EOModel. We now want to extend the  
 API
 to cover some other legacy back-office services and persistence
 mechanisms as well. The plan is to use fairly plain Java objects  
 and
 perhaps key value coding. Is there a straightforward path to  
 support
 this, while making the RESTful API look seamless across the EOF and
 the alternative back-end logic? I am concerned that we might have  
 to
 make lots of adaptations to support this model.

 Any tips would be very much appreciated.

 --
 James
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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Ray Kiddy


On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:



	Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file upload  
from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that takes longer  
than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just set the WO adaptor  
timeout to something like five or ten minutes to handle slow/flaky  
EDGE connections?


Thanks,
Joe
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There is probably some more documentation that can go into the use of  
this component. Actually, there is more than one choice for this.


com.webobjects.woextensions.WOLongResponsePage (Apple version)
er.ajax.AjaxLongResponse
er.extensions.concurrency.ERXLongResponsePage (and ERXLongResponseTask)
er.extensions.concurrency.ERXWOLongResponsePage
com.webobjects.woextensions.WOLongResponsePage (Wonder version)

So, there are three different flavors? Why ERX and ERXWO and  
Ajax of the same thing?


Perhaps it is just a general rule for understanding Wonder: There are  
at least three ways of doing anything: ak-ish, ms-ish, and ch-ish. :-)


It kind of makes as much sense as any other explanation

- ray

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Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Hill

Hi  Mark,


On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:08 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:


Hi Chuck!

On 14/Jan/2010, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Yes, I believe that's the intended behaviour... The  
DatabaseContext tracks that newly created EO and throws an  
exception if you attempt to modify and then save it.

Almost, it throws when the fault is fired.


Hrm, in test case that I constructed, that's not what I observe.
I'm using WOF 5.4.3, Java 1.5 on my development machine.


I wonder if we are mis-communicating.   What are you describing below  
seems to be the default behavior if NOT using the delegate method from  
Kelly Hawk.  Is this below result from the code you posted later  
(Application.java)?




Using the Movies EOModel and local mysql:
I fetch a Talent EO.
I ask for it's photo and get back a fault for the TalentPhoto EO (as  
expected.)


Kelly's delegate method should throw here (or maybe in the step before).


Chuck

I fire the fault and get back a TalentPhoto EO with PK set and nil  
values.
EODatabaseContext.objectsWithMissingGlobalIds() confirms that it's  
tracking the TalentPhoto EO for me.

I make a change to the Talent EO and save it.
All is good.
I make changes to TalentPhoto:set a photo and set it's talent  
relationship to the Talent EO.
Then when I try to save changes, EOF tosses a  
EOObjectNotAvailableException with this explanation:


prepareForSaveWithCoordinator: Cannot save the object with globalID  
_EOIntegralKeyGlobalID[TalentPhoto (java.lang.Integer)1]. The row  
referenced by this globalID was missing from the database at the  
time a fetch was attempted. Either it was removed from the database  
after this application got a pointer to it, or there is a  
referential integrity problem with your database. To be notified  
when fetches fail, implement a delegate on EODatabaseContext that  
responds to databaseContextFailedToFetchObject().


That explanation seems to match what I've done and the behaviour  
seems to match the documentation for EODatabaseContext's delegate  
databaseContextFailedToFetchObject().  http://tr.im/dcdelegate


What am I doing differently then you?


No DB Context delegate is my guess.  :-)  You may also find this code  
useful or interesting.


/**
 * Detecting WO 5 dummy fault EOs.  The code below is a  
translation of code posted here:

 * From http://wodeveloper.com/omniLists/eof/2001/November/msg00023.html
 *
 * As of WO4.5, EOF resolves faults for objects that don't exist  
in the database to a dummy object with mostly empty attributes (except  
those
that are set in -init), whereas earlier versions of EOF threw a  
_fireFault exception.  This method detects whether the receiver is  
such a dummy object.

 *
 *  A distinguishing feature of these dummy EOs is that they  
don't have a corresponding database context snapshot, so we use this  
to detect its dummy-ness.  This seems more robust than checking if all  
or most attributes are empty, since these can be changed by client code.

 *
 *  Dummy fault EOs should be removed from the editingContext  
(using forgetObject) before it is invalidated (invalidateAllObjects or  
invalidateObjectWithGlobalID), otherwise an unrecoverable  
decrementSnapshotCountForGlobalID - unable to decrement snapshot  
count for object with global ID exception is thrown by EOF.brbr

 *
 * See also: http://www.omnigroup.com/mailman/archive/eof/2001-May/001988.html 
 andfollowing.

 */
public static boolean isDummyFaultEO(EOEnterpriseObject anObject)
{
/** require [valid_param] anObject != null;  **/
JassAdditions.pre(EOObject, isDummyFaultEO  
[object_in_ec], anObject.editingContext() != null);
JassAdditions.pre(EOObject, isDummyFaultEO  
[object_has_global_id],  
anObject.editingContext().globalIDForObject(anObject) != null);


boolean isDummyFaultEO = false;

// This method will fail if the object is still a fault.  We  
fire the fault so that the correct result is returned.

if (anObject.isFault())
{
try
{
anObject.willRead();
}
catch (EOObjectNotAvailableException e)
{
// The DatabaseContextDeletgate restores the throw  
on failure to fetch functionality and throws  
EOObjectNotAvailableException
// That is caught here and true returned so that this  
method will return the expected result even when this delegate is used

return true;
}
}

EOEditingContext ec = anObject.editingContext();
EOGlobalID globalID = ec.globalIDForObject(anObject);

// NB. objects with temporary globalIDs legitimately have no  
DB snapshots, since these are by definition not yet saved to the  
database.

if (! globalID.isTemporary())
{
// Find the EODatabaseContext instance associated with  

Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Hill


On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Chuck;

Assuming an instance with concurrent request processing turned on,  
if there are a number of sessions (or even stateless users) on the  
same instance with a large volume of transactions, will the  
streaming WORequest multiplex with the other requests?


Not sure what you mean by multiplex.  I think it may use a  
WOWorkerThread for the duration of the upload, but I am not certain.



My understanding was that the WebObjects adaptor queues requests  
into an instance rather than multiplexes them.


Instances will accept request up to # of Worker Threads + Listen Queue  
Size.  More than that, and the adaptor will return an error message.   
Worker Threads process in parallel, subject to single threaded locks  
in EOF.



So if a large transaction arrives from a slow pipe, will it not  
block the other requests until either the adaptor times it out or a  
response is returned to the client?


Not if concurrent request processing is on.  It will block that one  
session and WOWorkerThread (again, I think).



PS: The javadoc for WORequests refers to the wis request handler  
-- I hadn't heard of this one before!


That is for direct actions.

Chuck




cheers.

Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are, there  
should not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen uploads of  
large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go on for a  
very, very long time with no timeout.

...
I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.

...
In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block  
since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that  
sound correct?


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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Hill


On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:04 AM, msch...@mdimension.com wrote:

I thought that as long as bytes are flowing that the request won't  
timeout.


Correct.  The problem with the non-streaming version (the data  
binding, I think) is that Apache would accumulate the _entire_ upload  
before passing it to the WO adaptor.  During that time, the session  
could time out.  With streaming, the request goes to the app  
immediately and checks out the session preventing timeout.  The  
streaming upload was a very nice change both for memory management and  
for preventing session time out.


Chuck


Isn't the adaptor timeout based on lack of activity? I'm with chuck  
--- I have an app that does enormous (multigig) uploada to a DA  
without any timeouts.


ms

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Chuck Hillch...@global-village.net  
wrote:


It has been a while since I implemented this.  I think the  
streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.  What bindings  
are you using?


Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

  I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post  
to handle the upload.


- Joe

On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote:

Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are,  
there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen  
uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go  
on for a very, very long time with no timeout.



Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Thanks for the reply.

I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block  
since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does  
that sound correct?


On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Joe;

My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file  
is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit  
in sequence into a stream.  I haven't explicitly tested this  
from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from  
MacOS-X to move video files around.  You could build something  
similar to this.


I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


cheers.

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file  
upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that  
takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just  
set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten  
minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections?


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Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 15/Jan/2010, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 I wonder if we are mis-communicating.   What are you describing below seems 
 to be the default behavior if NOT using the delegate method from Kelly Hawk.  
 Is this below result from the code you posted later (Application.java)?

Oh yes, I should have been more clear.
My example is using the default 5.4.3 behaviour.
Kelly's code is not loaded.  Thanks btw to the pointer to it in Wonder.
As usual, I was lost because I neglected to properly mangle the name! ;-)
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Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Hill


On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:


On 15/Jan/2010, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
I wonder if we are mis-communicating.   What are you describing  
below seems to be the default behavior if NOT using the delegate  
method from Kelly Hawk.  Is this below result from the code you  
posted later (Application.java)?


Oh yes, I should have been more clear.
My example is using the default 5.4.3 behaviour.


OK, good.  What you are describing is also what I expect the default  
5.4.3 behaviour to be.  We are all good here.  :-)



Chuck


Kelly's code is not loaded.  Thanks btw to the pointer to it in  
Wonder.
As usual, I was lost because I neglected to properly mangle the  
name! ;-)

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Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 15/Jan/2010, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
 Personally, I like the way that EOF is handling the case.  It works for 
 reading and it correctly warns you when you attempt to change something that 
 never existed in the first place.  There is also programatic access to 
 detect the case
 How are you doing this?  Is it much different than the code I sent a few 
 minutes ago?


Hi Chuck!

From the code which I posted before, this is the method which asks the DC 
associated with the given EO for all the objects which didn't exist in the 
database using the missingObjectGlobalIDs() method.

private void logObjectsMissingGIDs(EOEditingContext context, 
EOEnterpriseObject eo){
EOObjectStore os = context.rootObjectStore();
if(os instanceof EOObjectStoreCoordinator){
EOObjectStoreCoordinator osc = 
(EOObjectStoreCoordinator)os;
EOObjectStore os2 = osc.objectStoreForObject(eo);
if(os2 instanceof EODatabaseContext){
EODatabaseContext dc = (EODatabaseContext)os2;
NSArrayEOEnterpriseObject 
objectsWithMissingGlobalIds = dc.missingObjectGlobalIDs();
NSLog.err.appendln(objectsWithMissingGlobalIds 
=  + objectsWithMissingGlobalIds);
}
}
}

M.
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Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 15/Jan/2010, at 11:17 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 OK, good.  What you are describing is also what I expect the default 5.4.3 
 behaviour to be.  We are all good here.  :-)

Ah ok, sorry about bending your head on that one... ;-)  However, always nice 
to have our idea of reality shaken from time to time... As a opportunity for a 
sanity check! ;-)
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Re: Modeling an optional to-one relationship

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Hill


On Jan 15, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:


On 15/Jan/2010, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
Personally, I like the way that EOF is handling the case.  It  
works for reading and it correctly warns you when you attempt to  
change something that never existed in the first place.  There is  
also programatic access to detect the case
How are you doing this?  Is it much different than the code I sent  
a few minutes ago?



Hi Chuck!

From the code which I posted before, this is the method which asks  
the DC associated with the given EO for all the objects which didn't  
exist in the database using the missingObjectGlobalIDs() method.


	private void logObjectsMissingGIDs(EOEditingContext context,  
EOEnterpriseObject eo){

EOObjectStore os = context.rootObjectStore();
if(os instanceof EOObjectStoreCoordinator){
EOObjectStoreCoordinator osc = 
(EOObjectStoreCoordinator)os;
EOObjectStore os2 = osc.objectStoreForObject(eo);
if(os2 instanceof EODatabaseContext){
EODatabaseContext dc = (EODatabaseContext)os2;
NSArrayEOEnterpriseObject objectsWithMissingGlobalIds =  
dc.missingObjectGlobalIDs();


That is an interesting alternative.


NSLog.err.appendln(objectsWithMissingGlobalIds =  +  
objectsWithMissingGlobalIds);

}
}
}

M.


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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Joe Moreno

Chuck,

 I think the streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.   
What bindings are you using?


I'm not using a WODynamicElement (i.e. WOFileUpload). This is a direct  
action for third party APIs to call so there is no UI. Or, am I  
misunderstanding your question?


Thanks,
Joe



On Jan 14, 2010, at 21:47:45, Chuck Hill wrote:

It has been a while since I implemented this.  I think the  
streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.  What bindings  
are you using?


Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

	I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to  
handle the upload.


- Joe

On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote:

Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are,  
there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen  
uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go  
on for a very, very long time with no timeout.



Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Thanks for the reply.

I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block  
since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does that  
sound correct?


On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Joe;

My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file is  
broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit in  
sequence into a stream.  I haven't explicitly tested this from  
iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from MacOS- 
X to move video files around.  You could build something similar  
to this.


I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


cheers.

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file  
upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that  
takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just  
set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten  
minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections?


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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread Chuck Hill


On Jan 15, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

I think the streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.   
What bindings are you using?


I'm not using a WODynamicElement (i.e. WOFileUpload). This is a  
direct action for third party APIs to call so there is no UI. Or, am  
I misunderstanding your question?


That does make it harder.  See WORequest.contentInputStream()  and  
also on your disk /Developer/Examples/JavaWebObjects/FileUpload


Chuck



On Jan 14, 2010, at 21:47:45, Chuck Hill wrote:

It has been a while since I implemented this.  I think the  
streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.  What bindings  
are you using?


Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

	I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post to  
handle the upload.


- Joe

On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote:

Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are,  
there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen  
uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go  
on for a very, very long time with no timeout.



Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Thanks for the reply.

I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block  
since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does  
that sound correct?


On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Joe;

My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file  
is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by bit  
in sequence into a stream.  I haven't explicitly tested this  
from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production system from  
MacOS-X to move video files around.  You could build something  
similar to this.


I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients who  
are using that instance will get blocked and may reach their  
timeouts.


cheers.

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file  
upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that  
takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just  
set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten  
minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections?


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Re: WO Long Response and iPhone

2010-01-15 Thread mschrag
I have the code to do this ... I'll send it. You get a multipart  
iterator on the request and then get a stream from the part.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Chuck Hillch...@global-village.net  
wrote:




On Jan 15, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

I think the streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.   
What bindings are you using?


I'm not using a WODynamicElement (i.e. WOFileUpload). This is a  
direct action for third party APIs to call so there is no UI. Or,  
am I misunderstanding your question?


That does make it harder.  See WORequest.contentInputStream()  and  
also on your disk /Developer/Examples/JavaWebObjects/FileUpload


Chuck



On Jan 14, 2010, at 21:47:45, Chuck Hill wrote:

It has been a while since I implemented this.  I think the  
streamToFilePath binding is what you need to use.  What bindings  
are you using?


Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Chuck,

   I hadn't considered that. I am using a direct action form post  
to handle the upload.


- Joe

On Jan 14, 2010, at 20:40:08, Chuck Hill wrote:

Are you using the streaming handler for uploads?  If you are,  
there should not be any timeouts from the adaptor.  I've seen  
uploads of large files over slow connections to GVC.SiteMaker go  
on for a very, very long time with no timeout.



Chuck


On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Joe Moreno wrote:


Thanks for the reply.

I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients  
who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach  
their timeouts.


In my case, I don't think upping the adaptor timeout will block  
since WOAllowsConcurrentRequestHandling is set to true. Does  
that sound correct?


On Jan 14, 2010, at 15:57:08, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Joe;

My LEWOStuff framework (JSON-RPC) has a system whereby a file  
is broken up into little chunks and fired into a WOA bit by  
bit in sequence into a stream.  I haven't explicitly tested  
this from iPhoneOS, but it has been used in a production  
system from MacOS-X to move video files around.  You could  
build something similar to this.


I wouldn't up the time on the adaptor because other clients  
who are using that instance will get blocked and may reach  
their timeouts.


cheers.

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to manage a file  
upload from say, an iPhone, to a WO app (direct action) that  
takes longer than the WO adaptor time out? Or, should I just  
set the WO adaptor timeout to something like five or ten  
minutes to handle slow/flaky EDGE connections?


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ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Johnny Miller
Hi,

I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is not null

so my ERXKey qualifier looks like

entity.relationship.isNotNull()

When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary key of the 
entity is not null and it is not looking at the relationship at all.

Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?

WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)

Thanks in advance,

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Re: ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Mike Schrag
there's more than one entity at play here ... please include example entity 
names and the exact generated sql.

On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is not null
 
 so my ERXKey qualifier looks like
 
 entity.relationship.isNotNull()
 
 When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary key of 
 the entity is not null and it is not looking at the relationship at all.
 
 Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?
 
 WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Johnny Miller
Hi Mike,

The two entities Artist - Artwork

The qualifier is Artist.ARTWORKS.isNotNull()

The generated SQL 

com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MySQLPlugIn$MySQLExpression: SELECT RTRIM(t0.BIO), 
t0.CREATE_DATE, RTRIM(t0.FIRST_NAME), t0.ID, t0.IMAGE, t0.LAST_MODIFIED, 
RTRIM(t0.LAST_NAME) FROM ARTIST t0 WHERE t0.ID is not NULL ORDER BY 
t0.LAST_NAME ASC, t0.FIRST_NAME ASC withBindings: 

Thanks a lot,

Johnny


On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 there's more than one entity at play here ... please include example entity 
 names and the exact generated sql.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is not null
 
 so my ERXKey qualifier looks like
 
 entity.relationship.isNotNull()
 
 When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary key of 
 the entity is not null and it is not looking at the relationship at all.
 
 Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?
 
 WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 
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Re: ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Mike Schrag
oh .. actually this is a qualifier in my own code that isn't in wonder. whoops. 
i think there's a houdah one for this?

On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:

 I'm not familiar with that qualifier (but I've sure been looking for it :) ). 
  Can you please point me in the right direction or provide an example?
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 isNotNull only really makes sense on a to-one ... you probably want to use 
 the to-many count qualifier (or something like it) for a to-many.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 The two entities Artist - Artwork
 
 The qualifier is Artist.ARTWORKS.isNotNull()
 
 The generated SQL 
 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MySQLPlugIn$MySQLExpression: SELECT 
 RTRIM(t0.BIO), t0.CREATE_DATE, RTRIM(t0.FIRST_NAME), t0.ID, t0.IMAGE, 
 t0.LAST_MODIFIED, RTRIM(t0.LAST_NAME) FROM ARTIST t0 WHERE t0.ID is not 
 NULL ORDER BY t0.LAST_NAME ASC, t0.FIRST_NAME ASC withBindings: 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 there's more than one entity at play here ... please include example 
 entity names and the exact generated sql.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is not 
 null
 
 so my ERXKey qualifier looks like
 
 entity.relationship.isNotNull()
 
 When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary key 
 of the entity is not null and it is not looking at the relationship at 
 all.
 
 Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?
 
 WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 
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Re: ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Mike Schrag
this is REALLY non-optimal fetching here, but if it works for you, cool ...

ms

On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:

 Well at least there is a good reason I didn't find it.
 
 After thinking about the query as SQL I decided to just use the in 
 qualifier.
 
 i.e. Artist.fetchMG_Artists(ec(), 
 Artist.ARTWORKS.in(Artwork.fetchAllMG_Artworks(ec())), so);
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
 Johnny
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 oh .. actually this is a qualifier in my own code that isn't in wonder. 
 whoops. i think there's a houdah one for this?
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 I'm not familiar with that qualifier (but I've sure been looking for it :) 
 ).  Can you please point me in the right direction or provide an example?
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 isNotNull only really makes sense on a to-one ... you probably want to use 
 the to-many count qualifier (or something like it) for a to-many.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 The two entities Artist - Artwork
 
 The qualifier is Artist.ARTWORKS.isNotNull()
 
 The generated SQL 
 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MySQLPlugIn$MySQLExpression: SELECT 
 RTRIM(t0.BIO), t0.CREATE_DATE, RTRIM(t0.FIRST_NAME), t0.ID, t0.IMAGE, 
 t0.LAST_MODIFIED, RTRIM(t0.LAST_NAME) FROM ARTIST t0 WHERE t0.ID is not 
 NULL ORDER BY t0.LAST_NAME ASC, t0.FIRST_NAME ASC withBindings: 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 there's more than one entity at play here ... please include example 
 entity names and the exact generated sql.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is not 
 null
 
 so my ERXKey qualifier looks like
 
 entity.relationship.isNotNull()
 
 When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary key 
 of the entity is not null and it is not looking at the relationship at 
 all.
 
 Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?
 
 WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 
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Re: ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Johnny Miller
Well at least there is a good reason I didn't find it.

After thinking about the query as SQL I decided to just use the in qualifier.

i.e. Artist.fetchMG_Artists(ec(), 
Artist.ARTWORKS.in(Artwork.fetchAllMG_Artworks(ec())), so);

Thanks for the help.

Johnny

On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 oh .. actually this is a qualifier in my own code that isn't in wonder. 
 whoops. i think there's a houdah one for this?
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 I'm not familiar with that qualifier (but I've sure been looking for it :) 
 ).  Can you please point me in the right direction or provide an example?
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 isNotNull only really makes sense on a to-one ... you probably want to use 
 the to-many count qualifier (or something like it) for a to-many.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 The two entities Artist - Artwork
 
 The qualifier is Artist.ARTWORKS.isNotNull()
 
 The generated SQL 
 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MySQLPlugIn$MySQLExpression: SELECT 
 RTRIM(t0.BIO), t0.CREATE_DATE, RTRIM(t0.FIRST_NAME), t0.ID, t0.IMAGE, 
 t0.LAST_MODIFIED, RTRIM(t0.LAST_NAME) FROM ARTIST t0 WHERE t0.ID is not 
 NULL ORDER BY t0.LAST_NAME ASC, t0.FIRST_NAME ASC withBindings: 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 there's more than one entity at play here ... please include example 
 entity names and the exact generated sql.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is not 
 null
 
 so my ERXKey qualifier looks like
 
 entity.relationship.isNotNull()
 
 When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary key 
 of the entity is not null and it is not looking at the relationship at 
 all.
 
 Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?
 
 WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 
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 Johnny Miller
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Re: ERXKey/MySQL relationship not null

2010-01-15 Thread Johnny Miller
Yeah, I started thinking about that ...

there is not a lot of data but I'll probably use a different solution.

Johnny

 
On Jan 15, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 this is REALLY non-optimal fetching here, but if it works for you, cool ...
 
 ms
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Well at least there is a good reason I didn't find it.
 
 After thinking about the query as SQL I decided to just use the in 
 qualifier.
 
 i.e. Artist.fetchMG_Artists(ec(), 
 Artist.ARTWORKS.in(Artwork.fetchAllMG_Artworks(ec())), so);
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
 Johnny
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 oh .. actually this is a qualifier in my own code that isn't in wonder. 
 whoops. i think there's a houdah one for this?
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 I'm not familiar with that qualifier (but I've sure been looking for it :) 
 ).  Can you please point me in the right direction or provide an example?
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 isNotNull only really makes sense on a to-one ... you probably want to 
 use the to-many count qualifier (or something like it) for a to-many.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 The two entities Artist - Artwork
 
 The qualifier is Artist.ARTWORKS.isNotNull()
 
 The generated SQL 
 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MySQLPlugIn$MySQLExpression: SELECT 
 RTRIM(t0.BIO), t0.CREATE_DATE, RTRIM(t0.FIRST_NAME), t0.ID, t0.IMAGE, 
 t0.LAST_MODIFIED, RTRIM(t0.LAST_NAME) FROM ARTIST t0 WHERE t0.ID is not 
 NULL ORDER BY t0.LAST_NAME ASC, t0.FIRST_NAME ASC withBindings: 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 there's more than one entity at play here ... please include example 
 entity names and the exact generated sql.
 
 On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Johnny Miller wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to get a list of entities who has a relationship that is 
 not null
 
 so my ERXKey qualifier looks like
 
 entity.relationship.isNotNull()
 
 When I look at the SQL generated it is making sure that the primary 
 key of the entity is not null and it is not looking at the 
 relationship at all.
 
 Is that the expected behavior or is it a bug with the MySQL plugin?
 
 WO 5.4.3, MySQL, Wonder recent ;)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Johnny
 
 
 
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 Johnny Miller
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 http://www.kahalawai.com
 
 
 
 
 
 Johnny Miller
 Kahalawai Media Corp
 http://www.kahalawai.com
 
 
 
 

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