Re: Overriding action methods in PageWrapper

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i think i'd go with something more like a nextpagedelegate, where  
you would have it in the parent and pass it into the child, and it  
would encapsulate the shared logic of what to do in response to your  
action.


That is what I was thinking too.  The parent needs to own this, the  
child just gets to talk to it.  The parent refers to it when deciding  
what to do upon save.  Father Knows Best.


Chuck



On May 27, 2010, at 7:17 PM, David Holt wrote:


Hi Chuck,

I have some very long forms that I display in a scrolling window.  
The save button is always displayed above the scrolling window as  
well as at the end of the scrolling content. Normally the save and  
revert leaves the person on the page and they have to navigate away  
manually. The client would now like the saves in some pages to  
navigate automatically to the next page as well as mark that that  
section of the form had been completed.


David

On 27-May-10, at 3:54 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On May 27, 2010, at 3:39 PM, David Holt wrote:


Hi all,

I have a number of components wrapped in a form with  
WOSubmitButtons that save and revert and return context().page().  
In most cases the method for the submit buttons should come from  
the wrapper, but in some cases I would like the *wrapped*  
component to provide the saveChanges() method to the wrapper  
buttons so I can do some pageflow logic. Is this possible?



You want buttons on the wrapper (parent) to call actions on the  
wrapped components (children)?  It might be possible, but it is  
probably wrong (as in immoral and improper).  In WO, parents know  
that they have children, but not who they are.  Children know who  
their parents are.


Tell us what you want to achieve and we can see how that might be  
done.



Chuck


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Re: Overriding action methods in PageWrapper

2010-05-27 Thread Mike Schrag
i think i'd go with something more like a nextpagedelegate, where you would 
have it in the parent and pass it into the child, and it would encapsulate the 
shared logic of what to do in response to your action.

ms

On May 27, 2010, at 7:17 PM, David Holt wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> 
> I have some very long forms that I display in a scrolling window. The save 
> button is always displayed above the scrolling window as well as at the end 
> of the scrolling content. Normally the save and revert leaves the person on 
> the page and they have to navigate away manually. The client would now like 
> the saves in some pages to navigate automatically to the next page as well as 
> mark that that section of the form had been completed.
> 
> David
> 
> On 27-May-10, at 3:54 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 27, 2010, at 3:39 PM, David Holt wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a number of components wrapped in a form with WOSubmitButtons that 
>>> save and revert and return context().page(). In most cases the method for 
>>> the submit buttons should come from the wrapper, but in some cases I would 
>>> like the *wrapped* component to provide the saveChanges() method to the 
>>> wrapper buttons so I can do some pageflow logic. Is this possible?
>> 
>> 
>> You want buttons on the wrapper (parent) to call actions on the wrapped 
>> components (children)?  It might be possible, but it is probably wrong (as 
>> in immoral and improper).  In WO, parents know that they have children, but 
>> not who they are.  Children know who their parents are.
>> 
>> Tell us what you want to achieve and we can see how that might be done.
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
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Re: Overriding action methods in PageWrapper

2010-05-27 Thread David Holt

Hi Chuck,

I have some very long forms that I display in a scrolling window. The  
save button is always displayed above the scrolling window as well as  
at the end of the scrolling content. Normally the save and revert  
leaves the person on the page and they have to navigate away  
manually. The client would now like the saves in some pages to  
navigate automatically to the next page as well as mark that that  
section of the form had been completed.


David

On 27-May-10, at 3:54 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On May 27, 2010, at 3:39 PM, David Holt wrote:


Hi all,

I have a number of components wrapped in a form with  
WOSubmitButtons that save and revert and return context().page().  
In most cases the method for the submit buttons should come from  
the wrapper, but in some cases I would like the *wrapped*  
component to provide the saveChanges() method to the wrapper  
buttons so I can do some pageflow logic. Is this possible?



You want buttons on the wrapper (parent) to call actions on the  
wrapped components (children)?  It might be possible, but it is  
probably wrong (as in immoral and improper).  In WO, parents know  
that they have children, but not who they are.  Children know who  
their parents are.


Tell us what you want to achieve and we can see how that might be  
done.



Chuck


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Re: Overriding action methods in PageWrapper

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 3:39 PM, David Holt wrote:


Hi all,

I have a number of components wrapped in a form with WOSubmitButtons  
that save and revert and return context().page(). In most cases the  
method for the submit buttons should come from the wrapper, but in  
some cases I would like the *wrapped* component to provide the  
saveChanges() method to the wrapper buttons so I can do some  
pageflow logic. Is this possible?



You want buttons on the wrapper (parent) to call actions on the  
wrapped components (children)?  It might be possible, but it is  
probably wrong (as in immoral and improper).  In WO, parents know that  
they have children, but not who they are.  Children know who their  
parents are.


Tell us what you want to achieve and we can see how that might be done.


Chuck


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Overriding action methods in PageWrapper

2010-05-27 Thread David Holt
Hi all,

I have a number of components wrapped in a form with WOSubmitButtons that save 
and revert and return context().page(). In most cases the method for the submit 
buttons should come from the wrapper, but in some cases I would like the 
*wrapped* component to provide the saveChanges() method to the wrapper buttons 
so I can do some pageflow logic. Is this possible?

David
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WOLips HTML Editor Code Assist Templates

2010-05-27 Thread JR Ruggentaler
I am using eclipse version 3.4.2 and WOLips version 3.4.5830. I am trying to 
add templates to Eclipse -> Preferences -> WOLips -> HTML Editor -> Code Assist 
-> Templates but when I click the "New" button nothing happens. Is the code 
completion/template functionality available in WOLips version 3.4.5830? Does 
any have this working?

JR 

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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-05-27 à 11:01, Chuck Hill a écrit :



On May 27, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs  
get "lost" (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public  
app, we can't easily find out under which circumstances the  
problem get in. I enabled logging in the EOs so that I can at  
least see if the relation is set to null, but that won't tell me  
where it was set to null.


Is it possible that there was supposed to be a DELETE operation  
instead of an UPDATE?  See the attached class.  I thought Wonder  
fixed this.


Might be, I will enable EOAdaptorDebugEnabled again to see if it's  
the case. BTW, this is with WO 5.3.3.


That won't show the delete.  That will just show the UPDATE.  If you  
add a log message before and after the saveChanges(), you can see if  
anything gets fetched.


Chuck





What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.



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Re: columns being set to null for no apparent reason

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 26, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Larry Mills-Gahl wrote:


Hello,

I setup what I think is a pretty simple program to map some external  
identifier strings to existing data. Two display groups on one page.  
First display group is the objects (Center) to be edited, the second  
display group (ExternalCenter) is used to find the right match by  
searching on the name.


One attribute of the Center is all that is being updated.

com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOGeneralAdaptorException:  
EvaluateExpression failed: : Next exception:SQL State:23000 -- error  
code: 1048 -- msg: Column 'parentCenterFK' cannot be null
Reason: EvaluateExpression failed:  
center SET cmsnum = ?, parentCenterFK = NULL, active = NULL WHERE  
(centerKey = ? AND active = ? AND cmsnum is NULL AND code = ? AND  
name = ? AND parentCenterFK = ?)" withBindings:  
1:"310001"(cmsProviderNumber), 2:620(centerkey), 3:1(active),  
4:"HUMED"(code), 5:"University Medical Center"(name),  
6:620(parentcenterfk)>: Next exception:SQL State:23000 -- error  
code: 1048 -- msg: Column 'parentCenterFK' cannot be null


I do not understand why the parentCenterFK is being set to NULL in  
the SQL


That looks odd to me as well. Try overriding setActive() and adding
if (newValue == null) NSLog.out.appendln(new RuntimeException("active  
set to null here");
That will show where the null value is coming from (assuming that it  
is not coming from a bug in EOAccess).



(especially since it looks like it would be set in the bindings).  
Also, "active" should not be null either.
The model and the schema both define these fields as not allowing  
null.


Do updates affecting those fields work OK in other situations?  Have  
you checked the datatype of these two to ensure that it is correct and  
consistent with the rest of the model?  An incorrect external type  
could possibly cause this.



Could this be that in some instances a record is it's own parent  
(parentCenterFK = centerKey)? That is the only special case that I  
see here that may be causing the problem (is EO protecting itself  
against some recursive nightmare?)



I'd say that is unlikely.


Chuck

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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-05-27 à 11:01, Chuck Hill a écrit :



On May 27, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get  
"lost" (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app,  
we can't easily find out under which circumstances the problem get  
in. I enabled logging in the EOs so that I can at least see if the  
relation is set to null, but that won't tell me where it was set to  
null.


Is it possible that there was supposed to be a DELETE operation  
instead of an UPDATE?  See the attached class.  I thought Wonder  
fixed this.


Might be, I will enable EOAdaptorDebugEnabled again to see if it's the  
case. BTW, this is with WO 5.3.3.




Chuck







What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.



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Re: Debugging EO design smells

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Frédéric JECKER wrote:


Hi,

I'm working on a 10yo woapp that started recently to behave  
strangely when deleting records :
the saveChanges() methods triggered a complete refresh on some huge  
tables.
After searching a while we found that this was caused by to-many  
relationships which had inverse relationships.
We deleted the unwanted reverse relationships which solved most of  
our cases but we still have similar issues on other parts of our  
application.
Is there a (good) not so bad practice to locate those smells (except  
parsing each of the 50+ EOModels of the app ?)



I don't think so.  This usually is found where a lookup EO has a  
reference back to the main EO.  So finding the problem is context  
specific.


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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get  
"lost" (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app,  
we can't easily find out under which circumstances the problem get  
in. I enabled logging in the EOs so that I can at least see if the  
relation is set to null, but that won't tell me where it was set to  
null.


Is it possible that there was supposed to be a DELETE operation  
instead of an UPDATE?  See the attached class.  I thought Wonder fixed  
this.



Chuck



DeletePrefetcher.java
Description: Binary data







What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.



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Fwd: Ajax List Filtering

2010-05-27 Thread Joe Kramer
Hi all,

I am trying to create a component that displays a list of people and then
lets the user filter this list based on a few criteria (first name, last
name, etc.).  I haven't been using ajax until very recently, so I'm sorry if
this is an easy newbie question.  The setup I have is I am observing
multiple fields (first name input, last name input) with the same
AjaxObserveField component and the AjaxObserveField updates an
AjaxUpdateContainer (a repetition with the qualified result list).  When I
type something in just the last name input, everything works as expected.
 Same with just the first name input.  But if I've typed something in the
last name input and then I type something in the first name input, the
variable storing the last name in the component gets set to null (via a
setter method) and, as a consequence, the results are only qualified using
the first name input.  I have no idea why the value is getting set to null
and I'm hoping someone can shed some light on what's going on and how to fix
this issue.  I'm using Webobjects 5.4.3 and a version of Project WOnder that
is about a month old.  Here's the relevant stuff from the component:



First Name: 

Last Name: 





... (list of results)





FormValuesObserveField : AjaxObserveField {

  observeFieldFrequency = "0.5";

  observeDelay = "0.5";

  updateContainerID = "results";

}


FirstNameFilterText : WOTextField {

  value = firstNameFilter;

  id = "firstNameFilter";

}


LastNameFilterText : WOTextField {

  value = lastNameFilter;

  id = "lastNameFilter";

}


ResultsContainer : AjaxUpdateContainer {

  id = "results";

}



In the java file I have:


 private String _firstNameFilter;

private String _lastNameFilter;

private NSArray _filteredArray;


public String firstNameFilter() {

  return _firstNameFilter;

}

 public void setFirstNameFilter(String value) {

  _firstNameFilter = value;

  _filteredArray = null;

}

 public String lastNameFilter() {

  return _lastNameFilter;

}

 public void setLastNameFilter(String value) {

  _lastNameFilter = value;

  _filteredArray = null;

}


public NSArray allClientsAfterFilter() {

  if (_filteredArray == null) {

EOQualifier lastNameQual = null;

if (_lastNameFilter != null) {

  lastNameQual = ERXQ.likeInsensitive("personInfo.lastName",
_lastNameFilter + "*");

} else {

  lastNameQual = ERXQ.likeInsensitive("personInfo.lastName", "*");

}

EOQualifier firstNameQual = null;

if (_firstNameFilter != null) {

  firstNameQual = ERXQ.likeInsensitive("personInfo.firstName",
_firstNameFilter + "*");

} else {

  firstNameQual = ERXQ.likeInsensitive("personInfo.firstName", "*");

}

EOQualifier qual = ERXQ.and(lastNameQual, firstNameQual);

_filteredArray =
EOSortOrdering.sortedArrayUsingKeyOrderArray(EOQualifier.filteredArrayWithQualifier(allClients(),
qual), null);

  }

  return _filteredArray;

}


Thanks for any help on this.


Regards,


Joe Kramer


CyberApps, Inc.
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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-05-27 à 10:32, Mark Ritchie a écrit :


On 27/May/2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.


How many concurrent users are we talking about?


Based on recent usage, sometimes we have up to 5 concurrent users.


I hope you are running that a new 8 core Xserve!
:-P




I would use WORecordingPath however it interleaves concurrent  
sessions so it's a little hard to deal with multiple users.  For a  
long time I've wanted something that would do this at the   
woadaptor level however haven't quite got around to setting that  
up! ;-)

M.

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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-05-27 à 10:33, George Domurot a écrit :

This might produce excessive logging for a bit, but can't you print  
a stack trace each time the change is made (or when it becomes  
null)?  At least you would see exactly where in your code the call  
is coming from.


NSLog.out.appendln(new RuntimeException("changed value..."));


That shouldn't generate too much logging so I will try this out.


-G


On May 27, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get  
"lost" (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app,  
we can't easily find out under which circumstances the problem get  
in. I enabled logging in the EOs so that I can at least see if the  
relation is set to null, but that won't tell me where it was set to  
null.


What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.



Pascal Robert
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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Anjo Krank
There's stuff in ERXSession that does this. Search for ERXActionLogging in the 
Wonder source. I think the trick was to override session.appendToReponse to log 
objectForKey("ERXActionLogging") and context.page.name.

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Am 27.05.2010 um 16:26 schrieb Pascal Robert:

> We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get "lost" 
> (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app, we can't easily 
> find out under which circumstances the problem get in. I enabled logging in 
> the EOs so that I can at least see if the relation is set to null, but that 
> won't tell me where it was set to null.
> 
> What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I guess that 
> I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was wondering if an easier 
> solution exists.
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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-05-27 à 10:32, Mark Ritchie a écrit :


On 27/May/2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.


How many concurrent users are we talking about?


Based on recent usage, sometimes we have up to 5 concurrent users.

I would use WORecordingPath however it interleaves concurrent  
sessions so it's a little hard to deal with multiple users.  For a  
long time I've wanted something that would do this at the  woadaptor  
level however haven't quite got around to setting that up! ;-)

M.

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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread George Domurot
This might produce excessive logging for a bit, but can't you print a stack 
trace each time the change is made (or when it becomes null)?  At least you 
would see exactly where in your code the call is coming from.

NSLog.out.appendln(new RuntimeException("changed value..."));

-G


On May 27, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get "lost" 
> (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app, we can't easily 
> find out under which circumstances the problem get in. I enabled logging in 
> the EOs so that I can at least see if the relation is set to null, but that 
> won't tell me where it was set to null.
> 
> What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I guess that 
> I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was wondering if an easier 
> solution exists.
> 
> 
> Pascal Robert
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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 27/May/2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
> What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I guess that 
> I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was wondering if an easier 
> solution exists.

How many concurrent users are we talking about?  I would use WORecordingPath 
however it interleaves concurrent sessions so it's a little hard to deal with 
multiple users.  For a long time I've wanted something that would do this at 
the  woadaptor level however haven't quite got around to setting that up! ;-)
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Re: Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Chuck Hill


On May 27, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get  
"lost" (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app,  
we can't easily find out under which circumstances the problem get  
in. I enabled logging in the EOs so that I can at least see if the  
relation is set to null, but that won't tell me where it was set to  
null.


You could log a stack trace when it is null.  That will show you where  
it originated, but not why it happened.



What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was  
wondering if an easier solution exists.



I can't think of one for this situation.

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Recording the steps made by an user in an app

2010-05-27 Thread Pascal Robert
We have a strange problem here where a relation between two EOs get  
"lost" (eg, the relation is set to null). Since it's a public app, we  
can't easily find out under which circumstances the problem get in. I  
enabled logging in the EOs so that I can at least see if the relation  
is set to null, but that won't tell me where it was set to null.


What's the best way to "record" the steps that an user is doing? I  
guess that I can add log4j calls in all the steps, but I was wondering  
if an easier solution exists.



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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 27/May/2010, at 5:09 AM, David LeBer wrote:
> Tommy's night is usually Wednesday right?
> Maybe a WO contingent meetup there?

I think that there were 3 runs last year! ;-)
I'm sure that we can figure something out!
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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread John Huss
I'll be there along with a co-worker.  Seeing more WO people is always good.

See ya,
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Re: [OT] Yay Apple!

2010-05-27 Thread Hugi Thordarson
Yay! Maybe this means they're finally able to afford to promote WO :D

http://www.asp.net/

- hugi



On 27.5.2010, at 11:36, Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:

> Our favorite fruit company just surpassed Microsoft and is now the second 
> largest company in the US behind Exxon-Mobil (^_^)
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html?hp
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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread Michelle Parker
HI guys

I'll be there, and look forward to seeing you all again.
It's been a few years.

Chuck I'll miss seeing you!

ciao
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On 27/05/2010, at 10:09 PM, David LeBer wrote:

> 
> On 2010-05-27, at 1:23 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
> 
>> T's sooo good!!  ;-)
>> You really should come along!
> 
> Tommy's night is usually Wednesday right?
> 
> Maybe a WO contingent meetup there?
> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-05-26, at 21:31, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>> 
>>> Alex Cone... Tequila... Tommy's...
>>> 
>>> I've never attended, but the thought sets my liver aquiver.
>>> 
>>> Good luck!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 26, 2010, at 9:02 PM, George Domurot wrote:
>>> 
 Two geeks from out team will be there too ... more tequila shots this year?
 
 -G
 
 On May 26, 2010, at 6:18 PM, David LeBer wrote:
 
> On 2010-05-26, at 8:55 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
>> 
> See you about town! ;-)
 Are you up here enjoying the cold, wet summer?
>>> 
>>> Nope, I was more thinking at the previously arranged pub meet in San 
>>> Francisco in a week! ;-)
>> 
>> Sadly, I won't be at WWDC this year.  My house is getting renovated and 
>> I want to keep an eye on it.  Will you be at WOWODC?
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
> 
> I'm hijacking this thread (well, kinda, I created a new email) to ask 
> about list member attendance at WWDC.
> 
> I'll be there, Chuck won't, and I'm sure there are lots of you who would 
> find little of interest, but how many does that leave?
> 
> Can I get a show of hands? Are there enough to plan anything?
> 
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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread Boris Herman

Can I get a show of hands? Are there enough to plan anything?


+1

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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-05-27, at 1:23 AM, Mark Ritchie wrote:

> T's sooo good!!  ;-)
> You really should come along!

Tommy's night is usually Wednesday right?

Maybe a WO contingent meetup there?

> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2010-05-26, at 21:31, Chuck Hill  wrote:
> 
>> Alex Cone... Tequila... Tommy's...
>> 
>> I've never attended, but the thought sets my liver aquiver.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2010, at 9:02 PM, George Domurot wrote:
>> 
>>> Two geeks from out team will be there too ... more tequila shots this year?
>>> 
>>> -G
>>> 
>>> On May 26, 2010, at 6:18 PM, David LeBer wrote:
>>> 
 On 2010-05-26, at 8:55 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
> 
> On May 26, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
> 
 See you about town! ;-)
>>> Are you up here enjoying the cold, wet summer?
>> 
>> Nope, I was more thinking at the previously arranged pub meet in San 
>> Francisco in a week! ;-)
> 
> Sadly, I won't be at WWDC this year.  My house is getting renovated and I 
> want to keep an eye on it.  Will you be at WOWODC?
> 
> 
> Chuck
 
 I'm hijacking this thread (well, kinda, I created a new email) to ask 
 about list member attendance at WWDC.
 
 I'll be there, Chuck won't, and I'm sure there are lots of you who would 
 find little of interest, but how many does that leave?
 
 Can I get a show of hands? Are there enough to plan anything?
 
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[OT] Yay Apple!

2010-05-27 Thread Ramsey Lee Gurley
Our favorite fruit company just surpassed Microsoft and is now the second 
largest company in the US behind Exxon-Mobil (^_^)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html?hp

Congratulations to everyone at Apple!

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Debugging EO design smells

2010-05-27 Thread Frédéric JECKER
Hi,

I'm working on a 10yo woapp that started recently to behave strangely when 
deleting records :
the saveChanges() methods triggered a complete refresh on some huge tables.
After searching a while we found that this was caused by to-many relationships 
which had inverse relationships.
We deleted the unwanted reverse relationships which solved most of our cases 
but we still have similar issues on other parts of our application.
Is there a (good) not so bad practice to locate those smells (except parsing 
each of the 50+ EOModels of the app ?)

Thanks

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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi!

  I'll skip WWDC this year.

  You people behave! ;)

  Yours

Miguel Arroz

On 2010/05/27, at 02:18, David LeBer wrote:

> On 2010-05-26, at 8:55 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Mark Ritchie wrote:
>> 
> See you about town! ;-)
 Are you up here enjoying the cold, wet summer?
>>> 
>>> Nope, I was more thinking at the previously arranged pub meet in San 
>>> Francisco in a week! ;-)
>> 
>> Sadly, I won't be at WWDC this year.  My house is getting renovated and I 
>> want to keep an eye on it.  Will you be at WOWODC?
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
> 
> I'm hijacking this thread (well, kinda, I created a new email) to ask about 
> list member attendance at WWDC.
> 
> I'll be there, Chuck won't, and I'm sure there are lots of you who would find 
> little of interest, but how many does that leave?
> 
> Can I get a show of hands? Are there enough to plan anything?
> 
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Re: WWDC? (Was: Snow Leopard, Apache 2.2, Skewed Load Balancing?)

2010-05-27 Thread Andrus Adamchik
I'll be there. Even though I am not doing any WO work these days,  
wouldn't mind having a beer with the WO folks ;-)


Andrus

On May 27, 2010, at 4:18 AM, David LeBer wrote:



Sadly, I won't be at WWDC this year.  My house is getting renovated  
and I want to keep an eye on it.  Will you be at WOWODC?



Chuck


I'm hijacking this thread (well, kinda, I created a new email) to  
ask about list member attendance at WWDC.


I'll be there, Chuck won't, and I'm sure there are lots of you who  
would find little of interest, but how many does that leave?


Can I get a show of hands? Are there enough to plan anything?

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