Dangling reference across non-ClassProperty relation

2010-11-04 Thread Kasper Frederiksen
I have a referential integrity problem in my model and I am at a loss as to
how to debug this.

To illustrate the problem in it's simplest form, I have made a model
containing two entities: User and Ticket. User has a ticket foreign key
(ticketFK) entity and a to-one relationship that maps User.ticketFK to a
Tiket primary key (ticketID).

Tickets may become invalid, then this happens they are deleted. This will
typically happen in a separate editing context from the one containing the
User. To avoid users referencing a Ticket that does not exist I make a
relation from Ticket.ticketID to User.ticketFK and set the delete rule to
'nullify'.

There is no need for the business code to reference the user through the
ticket, so I do not mark the relation from Ticket to User as a class
property.

To test, I fetch a User and follow the relation to get the User's Ticket.
Then I localize this Ticket in to a new editing context, delete the local
Ticket and save the new editing context. I the database the ticket row is
gone. The User object still refers to the ticket -this can't be helped, it
is seeing cache. The problem is this: the User row in the database still has
ticketFK set! It is pointing to a Ticket row that does not exist. Saving the
Users editing context or termination the application does not change this.

Does some one have any suggestions as to how I debug why the 'nullify' rule
on the Ticket--User relation does not work?

Here are some of my further observations on the problem:
---
No User update SQL is sent to the database, only the delete for the Ticket
row.

I have tried changing the Ticket--User relation to a class property. Since
the destination is not a primary key, WO now insists the relation be modeled
as to-many. I also write the getter and setter for the Users on the Ticket.
Now the above example works perfectly! The price I had to pay, is an
additional getter and setter in the business API. I would very much like to
avoid this since no business rule will ever need them and it is just
cluttering up the API.

I am beginning to suspect that the model defined delete rules are only
triggered for relations that are also class properties. Can any one confirm
this?

If any one wants to see the test code described above, I'll send you the
sample project.

Kind regards,
  -Kasper Frederiksen
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MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread David LeBer
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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread Paul D Yu
WOW.  that sucks!  Guess the Oracle machine is working!

May be time to switch to Frontbase or Postgres.


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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread Simon
as far as i know, the community server is still free and supports innodb

http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/

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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-11-04, at 10:05 AM, Simon wrote:

 as far as i know, the community server is still free and supports innodb
 
 http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/

Yeah, that was my question.

If innodb is still included in the community edition, then nothing has changed, 
support fees from MySQL/Oracle have just gone up (big surprise).

 
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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread Stefan Klein

Or to the archrival SAP ;-) (MaxDB)

Stefan

Am 04.11.10 14:37, schrieb Paul D Yu:

WOW.  that sucks!  Guess the Oracle machine is working!

May be time to switch to Frontbase or Postgres.


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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread Farrukh Ijaz

On 2010-11-04, at 4:37 PM, Paul D Yu wrote:

 WOW.  that sucks!  Guess the Oracle machine is working!
 
 May be time to switch to Frontbase or Postgres.

Guess what? Oracle acquires FrontBase for a Billion Dollars and then stop 
supporting MacOS? No JDK, No Database? What would we do?

Farrukh

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d2wo is me

2010-11-04 Thread Michael Gargano
Okay,

So, this is my sad face :(

I have this project I've been working on and it's been going pretty 
well.  Now I need to have some people in the company cram some data into the 
database for demo purposes.  I thought great... D2W!  So, I created a new 
wonder D2W project, added my model from my other project, configured the global 
db settings, and I get this...

java.lang.IllegalStateException: : A stateless component can not have a 
stateful child ().

Any ideas?  I remember doing the same thing with a regular direct to web 
project and it working fine.  Is there something else I need to do for a wonder 
d2w project?

Thanks.
-Mike

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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread Pascal Robert

Le 2010-11-04 à 10:43, Farrukh Ijaz a écrit :

 
 On 2010-11-04, at 4:37 PM, Paul D Yu wrote:
 
 WOW.  that sucks!  Guess the Oracle machine is working!
 
 May be time to switch to Frontbase or Postgres.
 
 Guess what? Oracle acquires FrontBase for a Billion Dollars and then stop 
 supporting MacOS? No JDK, No Database? What would we do?

We can finally raise sheeps in Portugal. 
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Re: d2wo is me

2010-11-04 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
This happens normally if you use a Stateful component inside a Stateless 
component. Don't use AjaxModalDialog in any of the stateless component. Inspect 
your wonder tags and check which one is stateful.

Farrukh

Sent from my iPad

On 2010-11-04, at 6:09 PM, Michael Gargano mgarg...@escholar.com wrote:

 Okay,
 
   So, this is my sad face :(
 
   I have this project I've been working on and it's been going pretty 
 well.  Now I need to have some people in the company cram some data into the 
 database for demo purposes.  I thought great... D2W!  So, I created a new 
 wonder D2W project, added my model from my other project, configured the 
 global db settings, and I get this...
 
 java.lang.IllegalStateException: : A stateless component can not have a 
 stateful child ().
 
 Any ideas?  I remember doing the same thing with a regular direct to web 
 project and it working fine.  Is there something else I need to do for a 
 wonder d2w project?
 
 Thanks.
 -Mike
 
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Re: d2wo is me

2010-11-04 Thread Ramsey Gurley
What d2w app template did you start with? From your description, I  
assume you did not add/edit any components in the new D2W app or set  
any rules. Is that the case?


Ramsey

On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:


Okay,

So, this is my sad face :(

	I have this project I've been working on and it's been going pretty  
well.  Now I need to have some people in the company cram some data  
into the database for demo purposes.  I thought great... D2W!  So, I  
created a new wonder D2W project, added my model from my other  
project, configured the global db settings, and I get this...


java.lang.IllegalStateException: : A stateless component can not  
have a stateful child ().


Any ideas?  I remember doing the same thing with a regular direct to  
web project and it working fine.  Is there something else I need to  
do for a wonder d2w project?


Thanks.
-Mike

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Re: d2wo is me

2010-11-04 Thread Michael Gargano
correct.  i just added the model and ran it.  (i believe the default for the 
wonder d2w template is the ermodernlook)

-mike

On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

 What d2w app template did you start with? From your description, I  
 assume you did not add/edit any components in the new D2W app or set  
 any rules. Is that the case?
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:
 
 Okay,
 
  So, this is my sad face :(
 
  I have this project I've been working on and it's been going pretty  
 well.  Now I need to have some people in the company cram some data  
 into the database for demo purposes.  I thought great... D2W!  So, I  
 created a new wonder D2W project, added my model from my other  
 project, configured the global db settings, and I get this...
 
 java.lang.IllegalStateException: : A stateless component can not  
 have a stateful child ().
 
 Any ideas?  I remember doing the same thing with a regular direct to  
 web project and it working fine.  Is there something else I need to  
 do for a wonder d2w project?
 
 Thanks.
 -Mike
 
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Re: d2wo is me

2010-11-04 Thread David LeBer
On 2010-11-04, at 11:45 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:

 correct.  i just added the model and ran it.  (i believe the default for the 
 wonder d2w template is the ermodernlook)

I just created a new Wonder D2W Application and added the ERMoviesLogic 
framework, tweaked the properties and added it's required frameworks (taggable, 
attachements, h2).

It runs fine.

Are you getting anything else in your log? Or is that the sum total of the 
message?

 
 -mike
 
 On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
 
 What d2w app template did you start with? From your description, I  
 assume you did not add/edit any components in the new D2W app or set  
 any rules. Is that the case?
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:
 
 Okay,
 
 So, this is my sad face :(
 
 I have this project I've been working on and it's been going pretty  
 well.  Now I need to have some people in the company cram some data  
 into the database for demo purposes.  I thought great... D2W!  So, I  
 created a new wonder D2W project, added my model from my other  
 project, configured the global db settings, and I get this...
 
 java.lang.IllegalStateException: : A stateless component can not  
 have a stateful child ().
 
 Any ideas?  I remember doing the same thing with a regular direct to  
 web project and it working fine.  Is there something else I need to  
 do for a wonder d2w project?
 
 Thanks.
 -Mike
 
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Re: Dangling reference across non-ClassProperty relation

2010-11-04 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Kaspar,

On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Kasper Frederiksen wrote:

 I have a referential integrity problem in my model and I am at a loss as to 
 how to debug this.
 
 To illustrate the problem in it's simplest form, I have made a model 
 containing two entities: User and Ticket. User has a ticket foreign key 
 (ticketFK) entity and a to-one relationship that maps User.ticketFK to a 
 Tiket primary key (ticketID).

Can you switch this?  Have Ticket.userFK as the relationship join?  That would 
result in a user.tickets() relationship in EOF.


 Tickets may become invalid, then this happens they are deleted. This will 
 typically happen in a separate editing context from the one containing the 
 User. To avoid users referencing a Ticket that does not exist I make a 
 relation from Ticket.ticketID to User.ticketFK and set the delete rule to 
 'nullify'. 
 
 There is no need for the business code to reference the user through the 
 ticket, so I do not mark the relation from Ticket to User as a class property.
 
 To test, I fetch a User and follow the relation to get the User's Ticket. 
 Then I localize this Ticket in to a new editing context, delete the local 
 Ticket and save the new editing context. I the database the ticket row is 
 gone. The User object still refers to the ticket -this can't be helped, it is 
 seeing cache. The problem is this: the User row in the database still has 
 ticketFK set! It is pointing to a Ticket row that does not exist. Saving the 
 Users editing context or termination the application does not change this.

Using the modeling above will still leave you with the User referring to the 
deleted ticket unless you have a delete rule from Ticket to User.  However this 
won't be in the database and won't stick.

 
 Does some one have any suggestions as to how I debug why the 'nullify' rule 
 on the Ticket--User relation does not work? 
 
 Here are some of my further observations on the problem:
 ---
 No User update SQL is sent to the database, only the delete for the Ticket 
 row.
 
 I have tried changing the Ticket--User relation to a class property. Since 
 the destination is not a primary key, WO now insists the relation be modeled 
 as to-many. I also write the getter and setter for the Users on the Ticket. 
 Now the above example works perfectly! The price I had to pay, is an 
 additional getter and setter in the business API. I would very much like to 
 avoid this since no business rule will ever need them and it is just 
 cluttering up the API.

I think you can remove the methods, EOF will use KVC to get around not having 
them.


 I am beginning to suspect that the model defined delete rules are only 
 triggered for relations that are also class properties. Can any one confirm 
 this?

I think this is the case now.  I think it was not the case in earlier versions, 
but I am not sure.

Chuck


 If any one wants to see the test code described above, I'll send you the 
 sample project.
 
 Kind regards,
   -Kasper Frederiksen
 
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Re: d2wo is me

2010-11-04 Thread Michael Gargano
That's pretty much it plus the stack info.   at 
com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent._setSubcomponent(WOComponent.java:629)

If I create a blank D2W project I get the login.  When I create the project and 
add in my model this is what happens.  This 'tweak'ing of the properties is 
where I may be going wrong though.  I'm only changing the dbConnect properties. 
 I don't know if I should be changing something else too.

Thanks.
-Mike


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On 2010-11-04, at 11:45 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:

correct.  i just added the model and ran it.  (i believe the default for the 
wonder d2w template is the ermodernlook)

I just created a new Wonder D2W Application and added the ERMoviesLogic 
framework, tweaked the properties and added it's required frameworks (taggable, 
attachements, h2).

It runs fine.

Are you getting anything else in your log? Or is that the sum total of the 
message?


-mike

On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

What d2w app template did you start with? From your description, I
assume you did not add/edit any components in the new D2W app or set
any rules. Is that the case?

Ramsey

On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Michael Gargano wrote:

Okay,

So, this is my sad face :(

I have this project I've been working on and it's been going pretty
well.  Now I need to have some people in the company cram some data
into the database for demo purposes.  I thought great... D2W!  So, I
created a new wonder D2W project, added my model from my other
project, configured the global db settings, and I get this...

java.lang.IllegalStateException: : A stateless component can not
have a stateful child ().

Any ideas?  I remember doing the same thing with a regular direct to
web project and it working fine.  Is there something else I need to
do for a wonder d2w project?

Thanks.
-Mike

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Re: MySQL + InnoDB no longer free?

2010-11-04 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Just catching up on emails ..

those are the supported editions or company Products (they sell Products). 
They hope you stumble onto that page if you are a new visitor and just pay out 
of your corporate wallet without realizing that the Community Server is the 
full all-features-included Free Open Source Software edition (+ includes the 
support it yourself feature) provided as a FREE download under GPL (see GPL 
note at the side of the page). So, stop panicking!! :-)

http://www.mysql.com/downloads/

MySQL 5.1.51 from a a few days ago includes both InnoDB and the InnoDB Plugin, 
and both InnoDB options run fine on old PowerPC G5 XServe (build from source) 
and modern multi-core Linux server (RHEL RPMs_

Regards, Kieran





On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:34 AM, David LeBer wrote:

 http://www.mysql.com/products/
 
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