Re: 5.4 uploading large files
We need to change Project Wonder licencing to forbid Apple using it ;-) Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 4 mars 2012 à 03:15, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net a écrit : But that would require Apple to release a new version of WO. Only the psychotically delusional among us are still expecting that. We have two practical choices: fix it ourselves in Wonder or live with it. Chuck On 2012-03-03, at 2:49 PM, Helmut Tschemernjak wrote: we investigated in the past into the 2.1GB form upload limitation. I reported this via the Apple Bug Reporter earlier this year. I feel it is not hard to fix, hopefully Apple spends a day or two to fix it. See my report below. Regards Helmut Tschemernjak --- Bug Reporter Problem ID: 10765546 Subject: WebObjects 5.4.3 large request ( 2.1GB) Summary: Requests larger than 2.1GB (uploading large files) fail. The class com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHttpIO tries to parse the content-length header with the method parseInt of the Integer class. This will fail for all files larger than 2.1GB. Further there are many instances in the code that make use of an integer for the content length of a request: WOInputStreamData: public WOInputStreamData(InputStream, int) WORequest: public int _contentLengthHeader() Also classes not directly involved in the request handling do show such a limitation (e.g. public NSRange(int, int)). ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jp.malrieu%40free.fr This email sent to jp.malr...@free.fr ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
As every decisions Apple makes, we will never know why. But I guess that they don't see why they should support a group of ~ 800 developers… We have more .Net developers in Montreal than the total count of WO developers (excluding WO devs inside Apple) world wide! Hi List, Why has Apple decided to abandon us? What can we do to get Apple releasing WebObjects like it used to? Thanks, Dennis. On 03/Mar/12 4:29 PM, John Huss wrote: As Mike said above it is already fixed in Apple's version of WO. But you're never going to see that version. So if you want a fix you have to roll your own. John On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Helmut Tschemernjak hel...@helios.de wrote: we investigated in the past into the 2.1GB form upload limitation. I reported this via the Apple Bug Reporter earlier this year. I feel it is not hard to fix, hopefully Apple spends a day or two to fix it. See my report below. Regards Helmut Tschemernjak --- Bug Reporter Problem ID: 10765546 Subject: WebObjects 5.4.3 large request ( 2.1GB) Summary: Requests larger than 2.1GB (uploading large files) fail. The class com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHttpIO tries to parse the content-length header with the method parseInt of the Integer class. This will fail for all files larger than 2.1GB. Further there are many instances in the code that make use of an integer for the content length of a request: WOInputStreamData: public WOInputStreamData(InputStream, int) WORequest: public int _contentLengthHeader() Also classes not directly involved in the request handling do show such a limitation (e.g. public NSRange(int, int)). ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ( Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com ) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.com This email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com -- With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. (+1) 604.921.1333 www.webappz.com www.scheduleDS.com www.1tracker.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
But I am happy to be 1 of 800 Worldwide. ^^ On 2012/03/04, at 9:39, Pascal Robert wrote: As every decisions Apple makes, we will never know why. But I guess that they don't see why they should support a group of ~ 800 developers… We have more .Net developers in Montreal than the total count of WO developers (excluding WO devs inside Apple) world wide! Hi List, Why has Apple decided to abandon us? What can we do to get Apple releasing WebObjects like it used to? Thanks, Dennis. On 03/Mar/12 4:29 PM, John Huss wrote: As Mike said above it is already fixed in Apple's version of WO. But you're never going to see that version. So if you want a fix you have to roll your own. John On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Helmut Tschemernjak hel...@helios.de wrote: we investigated in the past into the 2.1GB form upload limitation. I reported this via the Apple Bug Reporter earlier this year. I feel it is not hard to fix, hopefully Apple spends a day or two to fix it. See my report below. Regards Helmut Tschemernjak --- Bug Reporter Problem ID: 10765546 Subject: WebObjects 5.4.3 large request ( 2.1GB) Summary: Requests larger than 2.1GB (uploading large files) fail. The class com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHttpIO tries to parse the content-length header with the method parseInt of the Integer class. This will fail for all files larger than 2.1GB. Further there are many instances in the code that make use of an integer for the content length of a request: WOInputStreamData: public WOInputStreamData(InputStream, int) WORequest: public int _contentLengthHeader() Also classes not directly involved in the request handling do show such a limitation (e.g. public NSRange(int, int)). ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list ( Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com ) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.com This email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com -- With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. (+1) 604.921.1333 www.webappz.com www.scheduleDS.com www.1tracker.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ken%40ksroom.com This email sent to k...@ksroom.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have the power to decide on this issue. The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story. I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, many others) and therefore it is our company. Regards Helmut ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Helmut Tschemernjak hel...@helios.de wrote: I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have the power to decide on this issue. The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story. I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, many others) and therefore it is our company. Regards Helmut Well, if you can make it happen… ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
It is certainly a good point... Don't know if it makes sense in real life but, count me in! Matteo Sent from my iPhone On 04/mar/2012, at 11:54, Helmut Tschemernjak hel...@helios.de wrote: I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have the power to decide on this issue. The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story. I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, many others) and therefore it is our company. Regards Helmut ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mcentro%40altera.it This email sent to mcen...@altera.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Wolips Build path?
HI, I have a question about the wolips build path. It seems to have some pathology, or I am mis-understanding something. If I have a project, a projectA and everhthing compiles correctly, then when I bring in a different project to the workspace, e.g. ERXExtensions, now all of a sudden projectA has compile problems. It can't find the classes on the java build path. Somehow it knows about the ERXExtensions project, and it seems it wants to use it, even though the java build path is telling wolips where to find the correct version of ERXExtensions. It doesn't look where the java build path is telling wolips to look. Instead, wolips or the java compiler, can't find ERXExtensions and compilation fails, the java sources are all marked with problems. Now if I close the ERXExtensions project, all of a sudden wolips can find what is on projectA's build path, and all is well. Of couse projectA depends on a version of ERXExtensions, but why doesn't wolips look at the build path? Is there some parameter to set to get it to use the build path? Is it some automatic feature that if wolips recognizes some classes as being in the workspace, it automatically overrides what is on the build path? How to stop this? It does this with a: classpathentry kind=con path=org.maven.ide.eclipse.MAVEN2_CLASSPATH_CONTAINER/ I have not tried other types of classpathentry. Thanks, G Brown gsbr...@umich.edu ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wolips Build path?
Also, even with the project closed, the eomodler complains about the closed ERXExtensions project, so I guess one has to not introduce ANY dependent projects at all. On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:13 AM, G Brown wrote: HI, I have a question about the wolips build path. It seems to have some pathology, or I am mis-understanding something. If I have a project, a projectA and everhthing compiles correctly, then when I bring in a different project to the workspace, e.g. ERXExtensions, now all of a sudden projectA has compile problems. It can't find the classes on the java build path. Somehow it knows about the ERXExtensions project, and it seems it wants to use it, even though the java build path is telling wolips where to find the correct version of ERXExtensions. It doesn't look where the java build path is telling wolips to look. Instead, wolips or the java compiler, can't find ERXExtensions and compilation fails, the java sources are all marked with problems. Now if I close the ERXExtensions project, all of a sudden wolips can find what is on projectA's build path, and all is well. Of couse projectA depends on a version of ERXExtensions, but why doesn't wolips look at the build path? Is there some parameter to set to get it to use the build path? Is it some automatic feature that if wolips recognizes some classes as being in the workspace, it automatically overrides what is on the build path? How to stop this? It does this with a: classpathentry kind=con path=org.maven.ide.eclipse.MAVEN2_CLASSPATH_CONTAINER/ I have not tried other types of classpathentry. Thanks, G Brown gsbr...@umich.edu ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/gsbrown%40umich.edu This email sent to gsbr...@umich.edu G Brown gsbr...@umich.edu ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
Apple is a North American company. So wouldn't a class action suit make sense? We all have a lot riding on WebObjects and Apple has terminated us in 2009 without any proper notice period and reasoning. I am sure we could get over a 1000 participants. Dennis On 04/Mar/12 7:16 AM, Matteo Centro wrote: It is certainly a good point... Don't know if it makes sense in real life but, count me in! Matteo Sent from my iPhone On 04/mar/2012, at 11:54, Helmut Tschemernjakhel...@helios.de wrote: I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have the power to decide on this issue. The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story. I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, many others) and therefore it is our company. Regards Helmut ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mcentro%40altera.it This email sent to mcen...@altera.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.com This email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com -- With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. (+1) 604.921.1333 www.webappz.com www.scheduleDS.com www.1tracker.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Changing web server's document root
On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: The general WO Properties are in https://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/#documentation/WebObjects/WOAppProperties/Articles/ApplicationProperties.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40005337-SW1 I don't see anything there, so I looked in ERXStaticResourceRequestHandler and the property to set is WODocumentRoot. I _thought_ that used to be part of WO itself. That worked beautifully. Thanks!! kib Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill Klaus Berkling Web Application Dev. Systems Analyst DynEd International, Inc. www.dyned.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re:Changing web server's document root
On Mar 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Francois Bientz wrote: Change WebObjectsDocumentRoot in apache.conf Right, for deployment. Everything will be in the right place then. Thanks. kib The trouble with normal is it always gets worse. Bruce Cockburn Klaus Berkling Web Application Dev. Systems Analyst DynEd International, Inc. www.dyned.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
Well, I wish you luck. I'm not going to fight with Apple Legal for years, I prefer actually moving the community forward and stopping looking at the past. Apple is a North American company. So wouldn't a class action suit make sense? We all have a lot riding on WebObjects and Apple has terminated us in 2009 without any proper notice period and reasoning. I am sure we could get over a 1000 participants. Dennis On 04/Mar/12 7:16 AM, Matteo Centro wrote: It is certainly a good point... Don't know if it makes sense in real life but, count me in! Matteo Sent from my iPhone On 04/mar/2012, at 11:54, Helmut Tschemernjakhel...@helios.de wrote: I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have the power to decide on this issue. The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story. I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, many others) and therefore it is our company. Regards Helmut ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mcentro%40altera.it This email sent to mcen...@altera.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.com This email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com -- With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. (+1) 604.921.1333 www.webappz.com www.scheduleDS.com www.1tracker.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: 5.4 uploading large files
Apple ran out of money and can't afford to release it; they would just have to dump WebObjects on us. :-) On 04/Mar/12 2:11 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Well, I wish you luck. I'm not going to fight with Apple Legal for years, I prefer actually moving the community forward and stopping looking at the past. Apple is a North American company. So wouldn't a class action suit make sense? We all have a lot riding on WebObjects and Apple has terminated us in 2009 without any proper notice period and reasoning. I am sure we could get over a 1000 participants. Dennis On 04/Mar/12 7:16 AM, Matteo Centro wrote: It is certainly a good point... Don't know if it makes sense in real life but, count me in! Matteo Sent from my iPhone On 04/mar/2012, at 11:54, Helmut Tschemernjakhel...@helios.de wrote: I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have the power to decide on this issue. The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story. I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, many others) and therefore it is our company. Regards Helmut ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mcentro%40altera.it This email sent to mcen...@altera.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.com This email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com -- With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. (+1) 604.921.1333 www.webappz.com www.scheduleDS.com www.1tracker.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca -- With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. (+1) 604.921.1333 www.webappz.com www.scheduleDS.com www.1tracker.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to
