Re: WOWODC 2013?
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Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
WARNING : I know nothing about sql ...
As I thought, here is the beginning when the batchsize is 0
Oct 18 19:44:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:44:27 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression:
Oct 18 19:44:27 DEBUG NSLog - 57584 row(s) processed
Oct 18 19:44:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:44:28 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction
the remainder of my bindings is not being passed so It tries to grab 57584 rows
and then the relationships for those 57584 (that is where the sql sentence gets
nasty long)
When I specify a batchsize of 20
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression:
?::timestamp AND (t0.dateEnd < ?::timestamp
AND t0.transactionTypeID = ?::int4))" withBindings: 1:2012-10-01
00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 2:2012-10-31 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 3:1(transactionTypeID)>
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression:
?::timestamp AND (t0.dateEnd < ?::timestamp
AND t0.transactionTypeID = ?::int4)) LIMIT 20 OFFSET 0" withBindings:
1:2012-10-01 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 2:2012-10-31 00:00:00.0(dateEnd),
3:1(transactionTypeID)>
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - 20 row(s) processed
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression:
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - 20 row(s) processed
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction
Oct 18 19:51:27 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction
.
A difference seems to be the "select count(*)... " where it tries to find how
many row there are and it uses the passed bindings.
So I now have to figure out
1) why the bindings don't follow and
2) why the absence of the select count(*) statement...
Cheers
On 2012-10-18, at 19:24 , Louis Demers wrote:
> I think there is so much logging that I probably missed the beginning of the
> original sql debug messages which may have pointed to a clue why it wants to
> fetch so many relationships when only one row should be fetched...
> It's as if it does not figure out properly the proper number of rows that
> match the criteria when the batchsize is 0 (but I have yet to find a way to
> get such evidence)
>
>
>
> On 2012-10-18, at 18:45 , Chuck Hill wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2012-10-18, at 3:30 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
>>
>>> Wow,
>>> 1) turned on sql loggin (which I hsould have tought of by mayself , head in
>>> shame)
>>
>> LOL I thought that would be your reaction. :-)
>>
>>
>>> 2) setup the crash
>>> 3) cut and pasted the sql and now crashed Mail because the request was so
>>> f** big ! here is the start
>>
>>>
>>> 200:18574(id), 201:6284(id), 202:10381(id), 203:6282(id), 204:6283(id),
>>> 205:10376(id), 206:6281(id), ..
>>>
>>> that line has 2059805 characters in it
>>
>> My guess is that the line is too long for Postgres and is causing a buffer
>> overflow or something. That IS a rather long line. :-)
>>
>> So the next interesting question is,
> If i first put a small number, then I can ask any number including 0 and
> it works...
>>
>>
>> what SQL is sent if you set the batch size to 10 and then to 0"? My guess
>> is that it is not actually fetching everything in that case.
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>> here is my appendToResponse where I setup the displaygroup
>>>
>>>
>>> EOQualifier eoq;
>>> eoq = ERXQ.equals(Transaction.TRANSACTION_TYPE_KEY,
>>> standardTransactionType);
>>>
>>> if (dateBefore != null)
>>> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
>>> ERXQ.lessThan(Transaction.DATE_END_KEY, dateBefore));
>>> if (dateAfter != null)
>>> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
>>> ERXQ.greaterThan(Transaction.DATE_END_KEY, dateAfter));
>>> if (selectedProject != null)
>>> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
>>> ERXQ.equals(Transaction.PROJECT_KEY, selectedProject));
>>>
>>> fs = new
>>> ERXFetchSpecification(Transaction.ENTITY_NAME, eoq, null);
>>> ds.setFetchSpecification(fs);
>>> dg.setDataSource(ds);
>>>
>>> // log.debug("sort: " + dg.sortOrderings());
>>> dg.fetch();
>>>
>>> super.appendToResponse(response, context);
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2012-10-18, at 18:14 , Chuck Hill wrote:
>>>
What is the SQL that is causing that exception?
Chuck
On 2012-10-18, at 3:04 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Converted some pages from WODisplayGroup to use
> ERXBatchingDisplayGroup. Formerly, one could enter a batchsize of 0 to
> get all the objects. Now when i do that, or a very large number, I get an
>
Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
The first (long) SQL that you sent is what is generated if the database plugin does not provide LIMIT and OFFSET. My guess is that something is not initialized correctly when you use a batch size of zero for the first fetch. Chuck On 2012-10-18, at 3:51 PM, Louis Demers wrote: > > On 2012-10-18, at 18:45 , Chuck Hill wrote: > >> >> On 2012-10-18, at 3:30 PM, Louis Demers wrote: >> >>> Wow, >>> 1) turned on sql loggin (which I hsould have tought of by mayself , head in >>> shame) >> >> LOL I thought that would be your reaction. :-) >> >> >>> 2) setup the crash >>> 3) cut and pasted the sql and now crashed Mail because the request was so >>> f** big ! here is the start >> >>> >>> 200:18574(id), 201:6284(id), 202:10381(id), 203:6282(id), 204:6283(id), >>> 205:10376(id), 206:6281(id), .. >>> >>> that line has 2059805 characters in it >> >> My guess is that the line is too long for Postgres and is causing a buffer >> overflow or something. That IS a rather long line. :-) >> >> So the next interesting question is, > If i first put a small number, then I can ask any number including 0 and > it works... >> >> >> what SQL is sent if you set the batch size to 10 and then to 0"? My guess >> is that it is not actually fetching everything in that case. >> > > when I do it with exactly the same input I get only one line (which is also > what I should be getting no matter the batch size,) Here is hte sql if I use > a batch size of 20 > > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > Transaction t0 WHERE (t0.dateEnd > ?::timestamp AND (t0.dateEnd < > ?::timestamp AND t0.transactionTypeID = ?::int4))" withBindings: 1:2012-10-01 > 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 2:2012-10-03 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 3:1(transactionTypeID)> > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > Transaction t0 WHERE (t0.dateEnd > ?::timestamp AND (t0.dateEnd < > ?::timestamp AND t0.transactionTypeID = ?::int4)) LIMIT 1 OFFSET 0" > withBindings: 1:2012-10-01 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 2:2012-10-03 > 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 3:1(transactionTypeID)> > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > t0.assemblyTransaction_id, t0.averageCost, t0.billNumber, t0.contact_id, > t0.cost, t0.dateEnd, t0.dateStart, t0.id, t0.location_id, t0.locked, t0.note, > t0.part_id, (t0.id), t0.project_id, t0.purchaseOrder, t0.quantity, > t0.receptionNumber, t0.reversedTransaction_id, t0.runningTotalCost, > t0.runningTotalQty, t0.transactionTypeID FROM Transaction t0 WHERE t0.id = > ?::int4" withBindings: 1:156712(id)> > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > t0.id, t0.name, t0.quantity, t0.serialNumber, t0.spec_id FROM Part t0 WHERE > t0.id = ?::int4" withBindings: 1:16082(id)> > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > t0.costLabor, t0.costMaterial, t0.deprecatedObzervNumber, t0.description, > t0.explode, t0.hsCode, t0.id, t0.inventoryType_id, t0.leadTime, t0.level, > t0.manufacturer, t0.manufacturerPartNumber, t0.minimumQuantity, t0.name, > t0.number, t0.origin_id, t0.productionStep, t0.refSpec_id, t0.revision, > t0.scratchPad, t0.specStatus_id, t0.unitWeight FROM Spec t0 WHERE t0.id = > ?::int4" withBindings: 1:5417(id)> > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > t0.name, t0.sequencePrefix, t0.sortOrder FROM SpecCategory t0 WHERE t0.id = > ?::int4" withBindings: 1:7(id)> > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: > t0.company, t0.division, t0.id, t0.initials, t0.isCustomer, t0.isEmployee, > t0.isSupplier, t0.isWIPLocation, t0.login, t0.nameFirst, t0.nameLast, > t0.number, t0.password, t0.payRollNumber, t0.title FROM Contact t0 WHERE > t0.id = ?::int4" withBindings: 1:16(id)> > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed > Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal T
Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
I think there is so much logging that I probably missed the beginning of the
original sql debug messages which may have pointed to a clue why it wants to
fetch so many relationships when only one row should be fetched...
It's as if it does not figure out properly the proper number of rows that match
the criteria when the batchsize is 0 (but I have yet to find a way to get such
evidence)
On 2012-10-18, at 18:45 , Chuck Hill wrote:
>
> On 2012-10-18, at 3:30 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
>
>> Wow,
>> 1) turned on sql loggin (which I hsould have tought of by mayself , head in
>> shame)
>
> LOL I thought that would be your reaction. :-)
>
>
>> 2) setup the crash
>> 3) cut and pasted the sql and now crashed Mail because the request was so
>> f** big ! here is the start
>
>>
>> 200:18574(id), 201:6284(id), 202:10381(id), 203:6282(id), 204:6283(id),
>> 205:10376(id), 206:6281(id), ..
>>
>> that line has 2059805 characters in it
>
> My guess is that the line is too long for Postgres and is causing a buffer
> overflow or something. That IS a rather long line. :-)
>
> So the next interesting question is,
If i first put a small number, then I can ask any number including 0 and
it works...
>
>
> what SQL is sent if you set the batch size to 10 and then to 0"? My guess is
> that it is not actually fetching everything in that case.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>> here is my appendToResponse where I setup the displaygroup
>>
>>
>> EOQualifier eoq;
>> eoq = ERXQ.equals(Transaction.TRANSACTION_TYPE_KEY,
>> standardTransactionType);
>>
>> if (dateBefore != null)
>> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
>> ERXQ.lessThan(Transaction.DATE_END_KEY, dateBefore));
>> if (dateAfter != null)
>> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
>> ERXQ.greaterThan(Transaction.DATE_END_KEY, dateAfter));
>> if (selectedProject != null)
>> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
>> ERXQ.equals(Transaction.PROJECT_KEY, selectedProject));
>>
>> fs = new
>> ERXFetchSpecification(Transaction.ENTITY_NAME, eoq, null);
>> ds.setFetchSpecification(fs);
>> dg.setDataSource(ds);
>>
>> // log.debug("sort: " + dg.sortOrderings());
>> dg.fetch();
>>
>> super.appendToResponse(response, context);
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2012-10-18, at 18:14 , Chuck Hill wrote:
>>
>>> What is the SQL that is causing that exception?
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2012-10-18, at 3:04 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
>>>
Hi,
Converted some pages from WODisplayGroup to use
ERXBatchingDisplayGroup. Formerly, one could enter a batchsize of 0 to
get all the objects. Now when i do that, or a very large number, I get an
unrecoverable exception that forces me to restart the applications and the
database (PostgreSQL). If i first put a small number, then I can ask any
number including 0 and it works...
The exeption I get is Oct 18 17:58:11 INFO
er.transaction.adaptor.Exceptions - Database Exception occured: This
connection has been closed.at
org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.checkClosed(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:712)
at
org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.rollback(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:729)
at
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext.rollbackTransaction(JDBCContext.java:488)
at
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel._evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:340)
at
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:296)
at
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.selectAttributes(JDBCChannel.java:220)
at
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel._selectWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseChannel.java:897)
at
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel.selectObjectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseChannel.java:234)
at
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3055)
at
com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195)
at
com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:488)
at
com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4069)
at er.extensions.eof.ERXEC.objectsWithFetchSpecification(ERXEC.java:1306)
at
com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:)
at
er.extensions.eof.ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.fetchObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.java:290)
at
er.extensions.eof.ERXEOControlUtilities.objectsInRange(ERXEOControlUtilities.java:662)
at
er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.objectsInRange(ERXBatchingD
Re: forcing action method to fire
Ill take a look - thanks Gino On 19 Oct 2012, at 00:11, Chuck Hill wrote: Try ERXRedirect On 2012-10-18, at 4:09 PM, Gino Pacitti wrote: Hi List... I have a form that submits information and then presents it using a conditional on the same component. If I backtrack using the web browser back button the original action method does not get called - is it possible to force this to happen using component actions? Gino ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing Companies in B.C! Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! - Gino L. Pacitti Base Enterprise UK Email: g...@base-enterprise.co.uk Phone: sales: 0845 094 9784 Mob: 07980 851 953 World Wide Phone: +44 203 239 1945 | +1 727 288 2120 (local rate charge to wherever we are located in the world) Los Angeles Office : 1 310 666 0019 Aol: kris121 Msn: ginok...@hotmail.com Skype: ginokris Mac.com: ginok...@mac.com http://www.base-enterprise.co.uk mail: Base Enterprise PO BOX 674 East Grinstead West Sussex RH19 3ZG Base Enterprise LTD Company Number 04339224 Registered in England & Wales Registered Member of the UK Web Design Association. Accredited by Business Link and a member of the FSB. Web Design, coding and information architect Java, Web Objects and Database Developer HTML, XML, Javascript and WAP technologies, iPhone and Objective C. - This email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged and protected from disclosure. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail of any parts of it please telephone +44 845 094 9784 immediately upon receipt or contact s...@base-enterprise.co.uk No other person is authorized to copy, forward or disclose, distribute or retain this e-mail in any form. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: forcing action method to fire
Try ERXRedirect On 2012-10-18, at 4:09 PM, Gino Pacitti wrote: > Hi List... > > I have a form that submits information and then presents it using a > conditional on the same component. > > If I backtrack using the web browser back button the original action method > does not get called - is it possible to force this to happen using component > actions? > > Gino > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing Companies in B.C! Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
forcing action method to fire
Hi List... I have a form that submits information and then presents it using a conditional on the same component. If I backtrack using the web browser back button the original action method does not get called - is it possible to force this to happen using component actions? Gino ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
On 2012-10-18, at 18:45 , Chuck Hill wrote: > > On 2012-10-18, at 3:30 PM, Louis Demers wrote: > >> Wow, >> 1) turned on sql loggin (which I hsould have tought of by mayself , head in >> shame) > > LOL I thought that would be your reaction. :-) > > >> 2) setup the crash >> 3) cut and pasted the sql and now crashed Mail because the request was so >> f** big ! here is the start > >> >> 200:18574(id), 201:6284(id), 202:10381(id), 203:6282(id), 204:6283(id), >> 205:10376(id), 206:6281(id), .. >> >> that line has 2059805 characters in it > > My guess is that the line is too long for Postgres and is causing a buffer > overflow or something. That IS a rather long line. :-) > > So the next interesting question is, If i first put a small number, then I can ask any number including 0 and it works... > > > what SQL is sent if you set the batch size to 10 and then to 0"? My guess is > that it is not actually fetching everything in that case. > when I do it with exactly the same input I get only one line (which is also what I should be getting no matter the batch size,) Here is hte sql if I use a batch size of 20 Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: ?::timestamp AND (t0.dateEnd < ?::timestamp AND t0.transactionTypeID = ?::int4))" withBindings: 1:2012-10-01 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 2:2012-10-03 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 3:1(transactionTypeID)> Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: ?::timestamp AND (t0.dateEnd < ?::timestamp AND t0.transactionTypeID = ?::int4)) LIMIT 1 OFFSET 0" withBindings: 1:2012-10-01 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 2:2012-10-03 00:00:00.0(dateEnd), 3:1(transactionTypeID)> Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:56 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Begin Internal Transaction Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression: Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - 1 row(s) processed Oct 18 18:46:57 DEBUG NSLog - === Commit Internal Transaction > > > > Louis Demers eng. www.obzerv.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
On 2012-10-18, at 3:30 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
> Wow,
> 1) turned on sql loggin (which I hsould have tought of by mayself , head in
> shame)
LOL I thought that would be your reaction. :-)
> 2) setup the crash
> 3) cut and pasted the sql and now crashed Mail because the request was so
> f** big ! here is the start
>
> 200:18574(id), 201:6284(id), 202:10381(id), 203:6282(id), 204:6283(id),
> 205:10376(id), 206:6281(id), ..
>
> that line has 2059805 characters in it
My guess is that the line is too long for Postgres and is causing a buffer
overflow or something. That IS a rather long line. :-)
So the next interesting question is,
>>> If i first put a small number, then I can ask any number including 0 and
>>> it works...
what SQL is sent if you set the batch size to 10 and then to 0"? My guess is
that it is not actually fetching everything in that case.
Chuck
> here is my appendToResponse where I setup the displaygroup
>
>
> EOQualifier eoq;
> eoq = ERXQ.equals(Transaction.TRANSACTION_TYPE_KEY,
> standardTransactionType);
>
> if (dateBefore != null)
> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
> ERXQ.lessThan(Transaction.DATE_END_KEY, dateBefore));
> if (dateAfter != null)
> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
> ERXQ.greaterThan(Transaction.DATE_END_KEY, dateAfter));
> if (selectedProject != null)
> eoq = ERXQ.and(eoq,
> ERXQ.equals(Transaction.PROJECT_KEY, selectedProject));
>
> fs = new
> ERXFetchSpecification(Transaction.ENTITY_NAME, eoq, null);
> ds.setFetchSpecification(fs);
> dg.setDataSource(ds);
>
> // log.debug("sort: " + dg.sortOrderings());
> dg.fetch();
>
> super.appendToResponse(response, context);
>
>
>
> On 2012-10-18, at 18:14 , Chuck Hill wrote:
>
>> What is the SQL that is causing that exception?
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> On 2012-10-18, at 3:04 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Converted some pages from WODisplayGroup to use
>>> ERXBatchingDisplayGroup. Formerly, one could enter a batchsize of 0 to get
>>> all the objects. Now when i do that, or a very large number, I get an
>>> unrecoverable exception that forces me to restart the applications and the
>>> database (PostgreSQL). If i first put a small number, then I can ask any
>>> number including 0 and it works...
>>>
>>>
>>> The exeption I get is Oct 18 17:58:11 INFO
>>> er.transaction.adaptor.Exceptions - Database Exception occured: This
>>> connection has been closed.at
>>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.checkClosed(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:712)
>>> at
>>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.rollback(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:729)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext.rollbackTransaction(JDBCContext.java:488)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel._evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:340)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:296)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.selectAttributes(JDBCChannel.java:220)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel._selectWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseChannel.java:897)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel.selectObjectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseChannel.java:234)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3055)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:488)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4069)
>>> at er.extensions.eof.ERXEC.objectsWithFetchSpecification(ERXEC.java:1306)
>>> at
>>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:)
>>> at
>>> er.extensions.eof.ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.fetchObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.java:290)
>>> at
>>> er.extensions.eof.ERXEOControlUtilities.objectsInRange(ERXEOControlUtilities.java:662)
>>> at
>>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.objectsInRange(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:384)
>>> at
>>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetch(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:423)
>>> at
>>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetchIfNecessary(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:132)
>>> at
>>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.hasMultipleBatches(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:229)
>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>> at
>>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>>> at
>>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Delega
Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
Wow,
1) turned on sql loggin (which I hsould have tought of by mayself , head in
shame)
2) setup the crash
3) cut and pasted the sql and now crashed Mail because the request was so
f** big ! here is the start
Oct 18 18:21:12 DEBUG NSLog - evaluateExpression:
(Transaction.ENTITY_NAME, eoq, null);
ds.setFetchSpecification(fs);
dg.setDataSource(ds);
// log.debug("sort: " + dg.sortOrderings());
dg.fetch();
super.appendToResponse(response, context);
On 2012-10-18, at 18:14 , Chuck Hill wrote:
> What is the SQL that is causing that exception?
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On 2012-10-18, at 3:04 PM, Louis Demers wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Converted some pages from WODisplayGroup to use
>> ERXBatchingDisplayGroup. Formerly, one could enter a batchsize of 0 to get
>> all the objects. Now when i do that, or a very large number, I get an
>> unrecoverable exception that forces me to restart the applications and the
>> database (PostgreSQL). If i first put a small number, then I can ask any
>> number including 0 and it works...
>>
>>
>> The exeption I get is Oct 18 17:58:11 INFO
>> er.transaction.adaptor.Exceptions - Database Exception occured: This
>> connection has been closed.at
>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.checkClosed(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:712)
>> at
>> org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.rollback(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:729)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext.rollbackTransaction(JDBCContext.java:488)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel._evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:340)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:296)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.selectAttributes(JDBCChannel.java:220)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel._selectWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseChannel.java:897)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel.selectObjectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseChannel.java:234)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3055)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:488)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4069)
>> at er.extensions.eof.ERXEC.objectsWithFetchSpecification(ERXEC.java:1306)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:)
>> at
>> er.extensions.eof.ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.fetchObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.java:290)
>> at
>> er.extensions.eof.ERXEOControlUtilities.objectsInRange(ERXEOControlUtilities.java:662)
>> at
>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.objectsInRange(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:384)
>> at
>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetch(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:423)
>> at
>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetchIfNecessary(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:132)
>> at
>> er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.hasMultipleBatches(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:229)
>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>> at
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>> at
>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$ValueAccessor$1.methodValue(NSKeyValueCoding.java:636)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$_MethodBinding.valueInObject(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1134)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$DefaultImplementation.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1324)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WODisplayGroup.valueForKey(WODisplayGroup.java:3122)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Utility.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:447)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:212)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$Utility.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:151)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:217)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.valueForKeyPath(WOComponent.java:1804)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOKeyValueAssociation.valueInComponent(WOKeyValueAssociation.java:50)
>> at
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOAssociation.booleanValueInComponent(WOAssociation.java:276)
>>
>>
>>
>> Louis Demers eng.
>> Vice-President, Co-Founder
>> Obzerv Technologies Inc.
>> 400 Jean
Re: ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
What is the SQL that is causing that exception? Chuck On 2012-10-18, at 3:04 PM, Louis Demers wrote: > Hi, > > Converted some pages from WODisplayGroup to use > ERXBatchingDisplayGroup. Formerly, one could enter a batchsize of 0 to get > all the objects. Now when i do that, or a very large number, I get an > unrecoverable exception that forces me to restart the applications and the > database (PostgreSQL). If i first put a small number, then I can ask any > number including 0 and it works... > > > The exeption I get is Oct 18 17:58:11 INFO er.transaction.adaptor.Exceptions > - Database Exception occured: This connection has been closed.at > org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.checkClosed(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:712) > at > org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.rollback(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:729) > at > com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext.rollbackTransaction(JDBCContext.java:488) > at > com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel._evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:340) > at > com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:296) > at > com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.selectAttributes(JDBCChannel.java:220) > at > com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel._selectWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseChannel.java:897) > at > com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel.selectObjectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseChannel.java:234) > at > com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3055) > at > com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195) > at > com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:488) > at > com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4069) > at er.extensions.eof.ERXEC.objectsWithFetchSpecification(ERXEC.java:1306) > at > com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:) > at > er.extensions.eof.ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.fetchObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.java:290) > at > er.extensions.eof.ERXEOControlUtilities.objectsInRange(ERXEOControlUtilities.java:662) > at > er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.objectsInRange(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:384) > at > er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetch(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:423) > at > er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetchIfNecessary(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:132) > at > er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.hasMultipleBatches(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:229) > at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) > at > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) > at > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$ValueAccessor$1.methodValue(NSKeyValueCoding.java:636) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$_MethodBinding.valueInObject(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1134) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$DefaultImplementation.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1324) > at > com.webobjects.appserver.WODisplayGroup.valueForKey(WODisplayGroup.java:3122) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Utility.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:447) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:212) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$Utility.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:151) > at > com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:217) > at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.valueForKeyPath(WOComponent.java:1804) > at > com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOKeyValueAssociation.valueInComponent(WOKeyValueAssociation.java:50) > at > com.webobjects.appserver.WOAssociation.booleanValueInComponent(WOAssociation.java:276) > > > > Louis Demers eng. > Vice-President, Co-Founder > Obzerv Technologies Inc. > 400 Jean Lesage, suite 201 > Quebec, QC, Canada > G1K 8W1 > T418.524.3522 > F418.524.6745 > www.obzerv.com > > > > > Louis Demers eng. > www.obzerv.com > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are try
ERXBatchingDisplayGroup and batch size
Hi, Converted some pages from WODisplayGroup to use ERXBatchingDisplayGroup. Formerly, one could enter a batchsize of 0 to get all the objects. Now when i do that, or a very large number, I get an unrecoverable exception that forces me to restart the applications and the database (PostgreSQL). If i first put a small number, then I can ask any number including 0 and it works... The exeption I get is Oct 18 17:58:11 INFO er.transaction.adaptor.Exceptions - Database Exception occured: This connection has been closed.at org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.checkClosed(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:712) at org.postgresql.jdbc2.AbstractJdbc2Connection.rollback(AbstractJdbc2Connection.java:729) at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCContext.rollbackTransaction(JDBCContext.java:488) at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel._evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:340) at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(JDBCChannel.java:296) at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.selectAttributes(JDBCChannel.java:220) at com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel._selectWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseChannel.java:897) at com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseChannel.selectObjectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseChannel.java:234) at com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext._objectsWithFetchSpecificationEditingContext(EODatabaseContext.java:3055) at com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EODatabaseContext.java:3195) at com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOObjectStoreCoordinator.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java:488) at com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:4069) at er.extensions.eof.ERXEC.objectsWithFetchSpecification(ERXEC.java:1306) at com.webobjects.eocontrol.EOEditingContext.objectsWithFetchSpecification(EOEditingContext.java:) at er.extensions.eof.ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.fetchObjectsWithGlobalIDs(ERXEOGlobalIDUtilities.java:290) at er.extensions.eof.ERXEOControlUtilities.objectsInRange(ERXEOControlUtilities.java:662) at er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.objectsInRange(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:384) at er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetch(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:423) at er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.refetchIfNecessary(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:132) at er.extensions.batching.ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.hasMultipleBatches(ERXBatchingDisplayGroup.java:229) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$ValueAccessor$1.methodValue(NSKeyValueCoding.java:636) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$_MethodBinding.valueInObject(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1134) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$DefaultImplementation.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:1324) at com.webobjects.appserver.WODisplayGroup.valueForKey(WODisplayGroup.java:3122) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Utility.valueForKey(NSKeyValueCoding.java:447) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:212) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$Utility.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:151) at com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCodingAdditions$DefaultImplementation.valueForKeyPath(NSKeyValueCodingAdditions.java:217) at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.valueForKeyPath(WOComponent.java:1804) at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOKeyValueAssociation.valueInComponent(WOKeyValueAssociation.java:50) at com.webobjects.appserver.WOAssociation.booleanValueInComponent(WOAssociation.java:276) Louis Demers eng. Vice-President, Co-Founder Obzerv Technologies Inc. 400 Jean Lesage, suite 201 Quebec, QC, Canada G1K 8W1 T418.524.3522 F418.524.6745 www.obzerv.com Louis Demers eng. www.obzerv.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
I think I'll get a course on event planning... On 18/10/2012, at 15:47, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote: > Brazil. > > Nice +1 > >> beautiful girls > > +150 > > Don't care about WIFI for that > > > On 2012/10/18, at 3:54, Flavio Donadio wrote: > >> WOWODC '13 Brazil: beaches, beautiful girls... and no LTE (yet)! >> >> >> On 17/10/2012, at 22:44, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> The Big Four (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus) have LTE, and it's fast (got 24 >>> Mbps up/15 Mbps down in downtown). >>> >>> In fact, we had my iPad and 2 other iPads on LTE to help a bit, but I was >>> thinking the limit was 15 users for sharing, not 5 :-/ >>> Do they have LTE in Canada? ;) On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:32 PM, David LeBer wrote: > > lte-enabled-iphone5-intenet-sharing > > > On 2012-10-17, at 9:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the >> presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could >> last before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >>> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move >>> the event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what >>> that means: higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the >>> choice. >>> >>> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue >>> the event? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >>> >>> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net >> >> -- >> Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development >> >> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall >> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. >> http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects >> >> Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest >> Growing Companies in B.C! >> Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking >> of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com >> >> This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com > > This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flavio%40donadio.com.br >>> >>> This email sent to fla...@donadio.com.br >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ken%40ksroom.com >> >> This email sent to k...@ksroom.com > > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
Brazil. Nice +1 > beautiful girls +150 Don't care about WIFI for that On 2012/10/18, at 3:54, Flavio Donadio wrote: > WOWODC '13 Brazil: beaches, beautiful girls... and no LTE (yet)! > > > On 17/10/2012, at 22:44, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> The Big Four (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus) have LTE, and it's fast (got 24 >> Mbps up/15 Mbps down in downtown). >> >> In fact, we had my iPad and 2 other iPads on LTE to help a bit, but I was >> thinking the limit was 15 users for sharing, not 5 :-/ >> >>> Do they have LTE in Canada? ;) >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:32 PM, David LeBer >>> wrote: >>> lte-enabled-iphone5-intenet-sharing On 2012-10-17, at 9:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the > presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could > last before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P > > > Chuck > > > On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that >> means: higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. >> >> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue >> the event? >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >> >> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall > knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. > http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects > > Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest > Growing Companies in B.C! > Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of > Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com > > This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flavio%40donadio.com.br >> >> This email sent to fla...@donadio.com.br > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ken%40ksroom.com > > This email sent to k...@ksroom.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
Le 2012-10-18 à 13:51, Chuck Hill a écrit : > > On 2012-10-18, at 12:18 AM, Philippe Rabier wrote: > >> A bit late: we have to continue the event. The last one was successful even >> if some of us were/was upset. Of course, I don't forget it depends on you. >> >> Regarding the sessions and the fact that you organize and create and present >> sessions, you can rely on us (Sophiacom). We will have new stuffs to show. > > I am looking forward to that. > > >> I would like also to be able to prepare "blitz" presentations, aka no longer >> than 10/15mn. I have several ideas in mind that I could present to the >> audience. I know the danger is that the preparation time (plug the mac, >> tests with screenflow, …) can take a long time but we could not record this >> kind of session for example. >> >> What do you think? > > I like that idea. If we could arrange in advance to get everything on one > mac, we might even be able to record. Yes, that is going to be a requirement for next year. > > Chuck > > >> >> Philippe >> >> On 18 oct. 2012, at 03:17, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >>> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >>> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: >>> higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. >>> >>> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >>> event? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/prabier%40me.com >>> >>> This email sent to prab...@me.com >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >> >> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall > knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. > http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects > > Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing > Companies in B.C! > Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of > Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca > > This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
"Its not dead, its just resting!" On 2012-10-18, at 10:41 AM, Jesse Tayler wrote: > nobody felt sick, who felt sick? > > > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > >> >> On Oct 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >>> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >>> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: >>> higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. >> >> WiFi is more important after the sessions not so much during. >> Maybe a local network for sharing files. >> >>> >>> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >>> event? >> >> Yup, still do. I'll come in the future. Hopefully I won't get sick next >> time... last time was bit of a fog for me. >> >> >> kib >> >> "The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling >> expedients, of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering >> a period of consequences." >> Winston Churchill >> >> Klaus Berkling >> Web Application Dev. & Systems Analyst >> DynEd International, Inc. >> www.dyned.com >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jtayler%40oeinc.com >> >> This email sent to jtay...@oeinc.com > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing Companies in B.C! Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
On 2012-10-18, at 12:18 AM, Philippe Rabier wrote: > A bit late: we have to continue the event. The last one was successful even > if some of us were/was upset. Of course, I don't forget it depends on you. > > Regarding the sessions and the fact that you organize and create and present > sessions, you can rely on us (Sophiacom). We will have new stuffs to show. I am looking forward to that. > I would like also to be able to prepare "blitz" presentations, aka no longer > than 10/15mn. I have several ideas in mind that I could present to the > audience. I know the danger is that the preparation time (plug the mac, tests > with screenflow, …) can take a long time but we could not record this kind > of session for example. > > What do you think? I like that idea. If we could arrange in advance to get everything on one mac, we might even be able to record. Chuck > > Philippe > > On 18 oct. 2012, at 03:17, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: >> higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. >> >> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >> event? >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/prabier%40me.com >> >> This email sent to prab...@me.com > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing Companies in B.C! Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
RE: WOWODC 2013?
Greetings Pascal, Assuming I can go this time, Notre-Dame sounds great. Also, as long as there is some kind of deal with Verizon to extend to Canada for a time, that may work. V/R, Daniel Beatty, Ph.D. Computer Scientist Code 474300D 1 Administration Circle. M/S 1109 China Lake, CA 93555 daniel.bea...@navy.mil (760)939-7097 -Original Message- From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Robert Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:59 To: Chuck Hill Cc: WebObjects Development Subject: Re: WOWODC 2013? I must say that I really like the place on Notre-Dame Island. Yes, the transportation hell was no fun at all, but I really enjoyed the location and the fact that I could have complete control over the food and drinks selection (note to myself: less white wine, more red wine next year, you guys are heavy drinkers :-P). I'm not saying we should go back there (the room was packed) but this kind of place might be an option. But if people prefers to have the event as the same place as where they sleep, ok. > We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the > presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could last > before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P > > > Chuck > > > On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: >> higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. >> >> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >> event? >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >> >> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall > knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. > http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects > > Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing > Companies in B.C! > Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of > Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! > > > > > > > > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/daniel.beatty%40navy.mil This email sent to daniel.bea...@navy.mil smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
RE: WOWODC 2013?
Greeting Amedeo, Yes. Would that be for the girls, how to get caught, or the best cell arrangements? You know that could spell nothing but sc... for some of us. V/R, Dan -Original Message- From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com [mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com] On Behalf Of Amedeo Mantica Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:25 To: WebObjects Development Subject: Re: WOWODC 2013? I could ask to the former Italian prime minister. :-D Sent from my iPhone On 18/ott/2012, at 04:05, Pascal Robert wrote: > Well, it you are willing to organize it… > >> WOWODC '13 Brazil: beaches, beautiful girls... and no LTE (yet)! >> >> >> On 17/10/2012, at 22:44, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> The Big Four (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus) have LTE, and it's fast (got 24 >>> Mbps up/15 Mbps down in downtown). >>> >>> In fact, we had my iPad and 2 other iPads on LTE to help a bit, but I was >>> thinking the limit was 15 users for sharing, not 5 :-/ >>> Do they have LTE in Canada? ;) On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:32 PM, David LeBer wrote: > > lte-enabled-iphone5-intenet-sharing > > > On 2012-10-17, at 9:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the >> presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could >> last before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >>> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move >>> the event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what >>> that means: higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the >>> choice. >>> >>> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue >>> the event? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >>> >>> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net >> >> -- >> Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development >> >> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall >> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. >> http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects >> >> Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest >> Growing Companies in B.C! >> Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking >> of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com >> >> This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com > > This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flavio%40donadio.com.br >>> >>> This email sent to fla...@donadio.com.br >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca >> >> This email sent to prob...@macti.ca > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomantica%40me.com > > This email sent to amedeomant...
Re: WOWODC 2013?
Hi Pascal, On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hi guys, > > Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most > important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the > event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: > higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. > > But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the > event? Absolutely. Last year was the best yet, in my opinion. David > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx%40mac.com > > This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
On Oct 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most > important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the > event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: > higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. WiFi is more important after the sessions not so much during. Maybe a local network for sharing files. > > But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the > event? Yup, still do. I'll come in the future. Hopefully I won't get sick next time... last time was bit of a fog for me. kib "The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences." Winston Churchill Klaus Berkling Web Application Dev. & Systems Analyst DynEd International, Inc. www.dyned.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How do I change the classpath order?
I think the woproject code that builds the bundle puts ERXExtensions first so that Wonder can patch WO. If you want to patch Wonder, you might have to generate that classpath yourself. Or submit patches (git pull requests) to wonder to make the private methods protected so that you can make your changes without replacing Wonder classes. Chuck On 2012-10-18, at 2:41 AM, Riccardo De Menna wrote: > Hi Paul, Hi Michael, > > Sorry for the late reply but I was abroad and have just come back. So… > Yes I'm using a regular ant build from eclipse. Right-clicking on the project > and selecting "Install". > > This is my app build order in eclipse: > http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/ApplicationBuildOrder.png > > This is my framework build order in eclipse: > http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/FrameworkBuildOrder.png > > This is my build.xml file: > http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/build.xml > (You can ignore the rsync parts I've added) > > And this is the resulting classpath file I get when I install: > http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/UNIXClassPath.txt > > As you can see… the build order has TFramework as the first thing, but the > classpath only has it down after the ERJavaMail.framework. > > Is this a misbehavior? Should the ant-built classpath conform to the eclipse > build order? > > regards, > Riccardo > > On 10/ott/2012, at 23:44, Paul Hoadley wrote: > >> Hi Riccardo, >> >> On 10/10/2012, at 6:00 PM, Riccardo De Menna wrote: >> >>> The order I define in WOLips works fine in development but not in >>> deployment where I get a totally different setup. >>> Manually updating the classpath file every time I redeploy is not an option >>> and is prone to a lot of errors. >>> There must be a way to act on the deployed classpath file?!? >> >> How are you building for deployment? Standard Ant build scripts? >> >> >> -- >> Paul Hoadley >> http://logicsquad.net/ >> >> >> > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing Companies in B.C! Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
You are very much welcome. Glad you fixed it. Cheers On 18 Oct 2012, at 18:18, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Alright, I got everything working. You were right, it was a permissions > issue. The problem ended up being that the bash scripts inside the apps > weren't set to be executable, so nothing was happening. Once that was fixed, > a restart made everything work perfectly. > > Thanks again for helping me out with this, I really appreciate it. > -Taylor > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > >> >> Start each of them in foreground, i.e. without & at the end of the command, >> and look at the log it will print. >> >> >> On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:35, Taylor Hadden wrote: >> >>> Okay, I started each of them with "/Path/To/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd &" and >>> "/Path/To/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor &." >>> >>> On starting wotaskd, it printed: "[1] 1136" >>> On starting JavaMonitor, it printed: "[2] 1199" >>> >>> Now, "ps auxw | grep java" prints out: >>> >>> "[3]+ Stopped sudo >>> /Library/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor" >>> >>> What am I doing wrong here? To be honest, I'm mostly fumbling around in the >>> dark. >>> >>> Thanks for helping me out with this, by the way. >>> >>> >>> taylorchadden.com >>> @drizztmainsword >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >>> Try starting them manually in terminal and see what the problem is. It starts to smell like permissions mess-up. On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:17, Taylor Hadden wrote: > I'm having trouble getting those two programs to run at all. They don't > run when I do "launchctl load ", and they don't run when I > restart my machine. > > The one thing I have gotten them to do is create (empty) log files as per > these instructions on the wiki. > > What is the command for forcing the programs to start? > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > >> >> In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. >> >> If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. >> You can check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | >> grep java". You can set it in >> /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, if it's not there >> already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's ServerName. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Cheers >> >> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd >>> imagine you're right. >>> >>> When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to >>> launch them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of >>> Wonder, so I generated them via these instructions, only changing the >>> path to the file to match my system. >>> >>> Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an >>> "Already Loaded" message. >>> >>> taylorchadden.com >>> @drizztmainsword >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >>> Hello, Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does "curl localhost:1085" say? Cheers On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Hello, > > I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be > able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up > Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't > seem like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; > I get a "The requested application was not found on this server" > error. > > Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs > to be changed for Mountain Lion? > > Thanks for any help you can give. > -Taylor > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com > > This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com >>> >> > >>> >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Alright, I got everything working. You were right, it was a permissions issue. The problem ended up being that the bash scripts inside the apps weren't set to be executable, so nothing was happening. Once that was fixed, a restart made everything work perfectly. Thanks again for helping me out with this, I really appreciate it. -Taylor taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > > Start each of them in foreground, i.e. without & at the end of the command, > and look at the log it will print. > > > On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:35, Taylor Hadden wrote: > >> Okay, I started each of them with "/Path/To/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd &" and >> "/Path/To/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor &." >> >> On starting wotaskd, it printed: "[1] 1136" >> On starting JavaMonitor, it printed: "[2] 1199" >> >> Now, "ps auxw | grep java" prints out: >> >> "[3]+ Stopped sudo >> /Library/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor" >> >> What am I doing wrong here? To be honest, I'm mostly fumbling around in the >> dark. >> >> Thanks for helping me out with this, by the way. >> >> >> taylorchadden.com >> @drizztmainsword >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >> >>> Try starting them manually in terminal and see what the problem is. It >>> starts to smell like permissions mess-up. >>> >>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:17, Taylor Hadden wrote: >>> I'm having trouble getting those two programs to run at all. They don't run when I do "launchctl load ", and they don't run when I restart my machine. The one thing I have gotten them to do is create (empty) log files as per these instructions on the wiki. What is the command for forcing the programs to start? taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > > In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. > > If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. You > can check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | grep > java". You can set it in /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, > if it's not there already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's > ServerName. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers > > On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd >> imagine you're right. >> >> When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch >> them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I >> generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the >> file to match my system. >> >> Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an >> "Already Loaded" message. >> >> taylorchadden.com >> @drizztmainsword >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does >>> "curl localhost:1085" say? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: >>> Hello, I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a "The requested application was not found on this server" error. Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be changed for Mountain Lion? Thanks for any help you can give. -Taylor taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com >>> >> > >>> >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Start each of them in foreground, i.e. without & at the end of the command, and look at the log it will print. On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:35, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Okay, I started each of them with "/Path/To/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd &" and > "/Path/To/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor &." > > On starting wotaskd, it printed: "[1] 1136" > On starting JavaMonitor, it printed: "[2] 1199" > > Now, "ps auxw | grep java" prints out: > > "[3]+ Stopped sudo > /Library/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor" > > What am I doing wrong here? To be honest, I'm mostly fumbling around in the > dark. > > Thanks for helping me out with this, by the way. > > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > >> Try starting them manually in terminal and see what the problem is. It >> starts to smell like permissions mess-up. >> >> On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:17, Taylor Hadden wrote: >> >>> I'm having trouble getting those two programs to run at all. They don't run >>> when I do "launchctl load ", and they don't run when I restart >>> my machine. >>> >>> The one thing I have gotten them to do is create (empty) log files as per >>> these instructions on the wiki. >>> >>> What is the command for forcing the programs to start? >>> >>> taylorchadden.com >>> @drizztmainsword >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >>> In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. You can check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | grep java". You can set it in /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, if it's not there already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's ServerName. Hope this helps. Cheers On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Hi there, > > The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd > imagine you're right. > > When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch > them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I > generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the file > to match my system. > > Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an > "Already Loaded" message. > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does >> "curl localhost:1085" say? >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be >>> able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up >>> Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem >>> like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a >>> "The requested application was not found on this server" error. >>> >>> Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to >>> be changed for Mountain Lion? >>> >>> Thanks for any help you can give. >>> -Taylor >>> >>> taylorchadden.com >>> @drizztmainsword >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com >>> >>> This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com >> > >>> >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Okay, I started each of them with "/Path/To/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd &" and "/Path/To/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor &." On starting wotaskd, it printed: "[1] 1136" On starting JavaMonitor, it printed: "[2] 1199" Now, "ps auxw | grep java" prints out: "[3]+ Stopped sudo /Library/WebObjects/Versions/WebObjects543/System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor" What am I doing wrong here? To be honest, I'm mostly fumbling around in the dark. Thanks for helping me out with this, by the way. taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword On Oct 18, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > Try starting them manually in terminal and see what the problem is. It starts > to smell like permissions mess-up. > > On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:17, Taylor Hadden wrote: > >> I'm having trouble getting those two programs to run at all. They don't run >> when I do "launchctl load ", and they don't run when I restart my >> machine. >> >> The one thing I have gotten them to do is create (empty) log files as per >> these instructions on the wiki. >> >> What is the command for forcing the programs to start? >> >> taylorchadden.com >> @drizztmainsword >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >> >>> >>> In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. >>> >>> If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. You >>> can check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | grep >>> java". You can set it in /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, if >>> it's not there already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's >>> ServerName. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: >>> Hi there, The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd imagine you're right. When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the file to match my system. Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an "Already Loaded" message. taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > Hello, > > Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does > "curl localhost:1085" say? > > Cheers > > > On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be >> able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up >> Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem >> like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a >> "The requested application was not found on this server" error. >> >> Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to >> be changed for Mountain Lion? >> >> Thanks for any help you can give. >> -Taylor >> >> taylorchadden.com >> @drizztmainsword >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com >> >> This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com > >>> >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
I'm having trouble getting those two programs to run at all. They don't run when I do "launchctl load ", and they don't run when I restart my machine. The one thing I have gotten them to do is create (empty) log files as per these instructions on the wiki. What is the command for forcing the programs to start? taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > > In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. > > If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. You can > check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | grep java". You > can set it in /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, if it's not > there already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's ServerName. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers > > On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd imagine >> you're right. >> >> When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch >> them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I >> generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the file to >> match my system. >> >> Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an "Already >> Loaded" message. >> >> taylorchadden.com >> @drizztmainsword >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does "curl >>> localhost:1085" say? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: >>> Hello, I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a "The requested application was not found on this server" error. Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be changed for Mountain Lion? Thanks for any help you can give. -Taylor taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com >>> >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Try starting them manually in terminal and see what the problem is. It starts to smell like permissions mess-up. On 18 Oct 2012, at 17:17, Taylor Hadden wrote: > I'm having trouble getting those two programs to run at all. They don't run > when I do "launchctl load ", and they don't run when I restart my > machine. > > The one thing I have gotten them to do is create (empty) log files as per > these instructions on the wiki. > > What is the command for forcing the programs to start? > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > >> >> In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. >> >> If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. You >> can check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | grep >> java". You can set it in /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, if >> it's not there already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's >> ServerName. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Cheers >> >> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd imagine >>> you're right. >>> >>> When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch >>> them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I >>> generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the file >>> to match my system. >>> >>> Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an "Already >>> Loaded" message. >>> >>> taylorchadden.com >>> @drizztmainsword >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: >>> Hello, Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does "curl localhost:1085" say? Cheers On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Hello, > > I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be > able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up > Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem > like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a > "The requested application was not found on this server" error. > > Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be > changed for Mountain Lion? > > Thanks for any help you can give. > -Taylor > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com > > This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com >>> >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
In this case try to stop them and start them with sudo. If that does not help, check if wotaskd starts with WOHost=localhost. You can check the latter with executing this in terminal - "ps auxw | grep java". You can set it in /path/to/wotaskd/Contents/Resources/Properties, if it's not there already. IIRC, wotaskd's WOHost should match Apache's ServerName. Hope this helps. Cheers On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:39, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Hi there, > > The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd imagine > you're right. > > When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch > them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I > generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the file to > match my system. > > Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an "Already > Loaded" message. > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does "curl >> localhost:1085" say? >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be able >>> to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up Apache. >>> I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem like Eclipse >>> is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a "The requested >>> application was not found on this server" error. >>> >>> Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be >>> changed for Mountain Lion? >>> >>> Thanks for any help you can give. >>> -Taylor >>> >>> taylorchadden.com >>> @drizztmainsword >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com >>> >>> This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com >> > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
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Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Hi there, The curl command says: "curl: (7) couldn't connect to host." So I'd imagine you're right. When I was trying to get the two plist files that are supposed to launch them, I couldn't find them in my installation directory of Wonder, so I generated them via these instructions, only changing the path to the file to match my system. Trying to load the files with the launchctl command results in an "Already Loaded" message. taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: > Hello, > > Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does "curl > localhost:1085" say? > > Cheers > > > On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be able >> to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up Apache. I've >> followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem like Eclipse is >> communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a "The requested >> application was not found on this server" error. >> >> Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be >> changed for Mountain Lion? >> >> Thanks for any help you can give. >> -Taylor >> >> taylorchadden.com >> @drizztmainsword >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com >> >> This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Hello, Sounds like you don't have wotaskd and javamonitor started. What does "curl localhost:1085" say? Cheers On 18 Oct 2012, at 15:22, Taylor Hadden wrote: > Hello, > > I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be able to > easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up Apache. I've > followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem like Eclipse is > communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a "The requested > application was not found on this server" error. > > Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be > changed for Mountain Lion? > > Thanks for any help you can give. > -Taylor > > taylorchadden.com > @drizztmainsword > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/bzlat%40tuparev.com > > This email sent to bz...@tuparev.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Setting up WOnder and WOLips with Apache on OSX Mountain Lion
Hello, I've been working with Eclipse using direct connect, but I want to be able to easily test on other machines, so I've been trying to set up Apache. I've followed the instructions found here, but it doesn't seem like Eclipse is communicating correctly with the Apache server; I get a "The requested application was not found on this server" error. Is there a particular nuance in one of the setting files that needs to be changed for Mountain Lion? Thanks for any help you can give. -Taylor taylorchadden.com @drizztmainsword ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
I must say that I really like the place on Notre-Dame Island. Yes, the transportation hell was no fun at all, but I really enjoyed the location and the fact that I could have complete control over the food and drinks selection (note to myself: less white wine, more red wine next year, you guys are heavy drinkers :-P). I'm not saying we should go back there (the room was packed) but this kind of place might be an option. But if people prefers to have the event as the same place as where they sleep, ok. > We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the > presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could last > before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P > > > Chuck > > > On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: >> higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. >> >> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >> event? >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >> >> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net > > -- > Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development > > Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall > knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. > http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects > > Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing > Companies in B.C! > Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of > Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! > > > > > > > > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
On 18/10/2012, at 03:56, Maik Musall wrote: >> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >> event? > > Nobody responded to this question so far - of course we should! This year's > was only my second. I'm even willing to do a couple of presentations next > time :) I, for one, would love to see it happening. I'm very new to this, never attended a WOWODC and I'm sorry I won't do it in 2013. Regards, Flavio ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How do I change the classpath order?
Hi Paul, Hi Michael, Sorry for the late reply but I was abroad and have just come back. So… Yes I'm using a regular ant build from eclipse. Right-clicking on the project and selecting "Install". This is my app build order in eclipse: http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/ApplicationBuildOrder.png This is my framework build order in eclipse: http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/FrameworkBuildOrder.png This is my build.xml file: http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/build.xml (You can ignore the rsync parts I've added) And this is the resulting classpath file I get when I install: http://hati.tuorlo.net/ClasspathIssue/UNIXClassPath.txt As you can see… the build order has TFramework as the first thing, but the classpath only has it down after the ERJavaMail.framework. Is this a misbehavior? Should the ant-built classpath conform to the eclipse build order? regards, Riccardo On 10/ott/2012, at 23:44, Paul Hoadley wrote: > Hi Riccardo, > > On 10/10/2012, at 6:00 PM, Riccardo De Menna wrote: > >> The order I define in WOLips works fine in development but not in deployment >> where I get a totally different setup. >> Manually updating the classpath file every time I redeploy is not an option >> and is prone to a lot of errors. >> There must be a way to act on the deployed classpath file?!? > > How are you building for deployment? Standard Ant build scripts? > > > -- > Paul Hoadley > http://logicsquad.net/ > > > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
I could ask to the former Italian prime minister. :-D Sent from my iPhone On 18/ott/2012, at 04:05, Pascal Robert wrote: > Well, it you are willing to organize it… > >> WOWODC '13 Brazil: beaches, beautiful girls... and no LTE (yet)! >> >> >> On 17/10/2012, at 22:44, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> The Big Four (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus) have LTE, and it's fast (got 24 >>> Mbps up/15 Mbps down in downtown). >>> >>> In fact, we had my iPad and 2 other iPads on LTE to help a bit, but I was >>> thinking the limit was 15 users for sharing, not 5 :-/ >>> Do they have LTE in Canada? ;) On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:32 PM, David LeBer wrote: > > lte-enabled-iphone5-intenet-sharing > > > On 2012-10-17, at 9:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >> We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the >> presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could >> last before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P >> >> >> Chuck >> >> >> On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >>> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move >>> the event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what >>> that means: higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the >>> choice. >>> >>> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue >>> the event? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net >>> >>> This email sent to ch...@global-village.net >> >> -- >> Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development >> >> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall >> knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. >> http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects >> >> Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest >> Growing Companies in B.C! >> Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking >> of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com >> >> This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com > > This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flavio%40donadio.com.br >>> >>> This email sent to fla...@donadio.com.br >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca >> >> This email sent to prob...@macti.ca > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomantica%40me.com > > This email sent to amedeomant...@me.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
On 18/10/2012, at 5:26 PM, Maik Musall wrote: > And yes, Wifi is not unimportant. Keep in mind that WOWODC has many > international visitors, most of which don't have a canadian data plan to use > alternatively. You need to have some kind of internet connection during the > trip sometimes, and if the hotel Wifi sucks it's just not so easy. I've got to agree with Maik on this one. Ad hoc alternative solutions might be convenient for locals and near locals, but coming in from Australia, for example, the last thing I want to try and organise on arrival at short notice is a local carrier data plan I'll never use again. Personally, I shut down email and any form of IM during presentations—the presenter has my full attention. But between sessions and after hours, I'm half a world away from my family, and trying to run a business. Convenient, reliable Internet access (WiFi, Ethernet—anything) is a significant factor for me, and, as Maik notes, no doubt many other international delegates as well. -- Paul Hoadley http://logicsquad.net/ ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
+1 Sent from my iPhone On 18/ott/2012, at 08:56, Maik Musall wrote: > Hi Pascal, > > Am 18.10.2012 um 03:17 schrieb Pascal Robert : > >> Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most >> important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the >> event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: >> higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. > > What about buying a professional MiFi hardware for the conference where you > stick in an LTE SIM with a huge data plan that provides Wifi for enough > clients? Shouldn't be more costly than $10 per person and could be reused the > following years. > > And yes, Wifi is not unimportant. Keep in mind that WOWODC has many > international visitors, most of which don't have a canadian data plan to use > alternatively. You need to have some kind of internet connection during the > trip sometimes, and if the hotel Wifi sucks it's just not so easy. > > I bought a Telus LTE SIM last time, but it's hard to keep it activated > without charging money to it all the time that I can't use up. > >> But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the >> event? > > Nobody responded to this question so far - of course we should! This year's > was only my second. I'm even willing to do a couple of presentations next > time :) > > Maik > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomantica%40me.com > > This email sent to amedeomant...@me.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
Could we buy a 3G/LTE router ? Instead of using iPad wifi sharing Amedeo Sent from my iPhone On 18/ott/2012, at 03:44, Pascal Robert wrote: > The Big Four (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus) have LTE, and it's fast (got 24 Mbps > up/15 Mbps down in downtown). > > In fact, we had my iPad and 2 other iPads on LTE to help a bit, but I was > thinking the limit was 15 users for sharing, not 5 :-/ > >> Do they have LTE in Canada? ;) >> >> On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:32 PM, David LeBer wrote: >> >>> >>> lte-enabled-iphone5-intenet-sharing >>> >>> >>> On 2012-10-17, at 9:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >>> We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could last before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P Chuck On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hi guys, > > Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most > important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the > event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that > means: higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. > > But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue > the event? > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net > > This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest Growing Companies in B.C! Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com >>> >>> This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomantica%40me.com > > This email sent to amedeomant...@me.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
Yes. I agree. :-) Sent from my iPhone On 18/ott/2012, at 04:25, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 2012-10-17 à 22:14, Lon Varscsak a écrit : > >> I approve of any location with beaches and beautiful girls. > > Well, we do have a beach in the old port > (http://www.oldportofmontreal.com/clock-tower-beach.html)… And I think Amedeo > will agree that we have beautiful girls here :-) > >> -Lon >> >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >> Well, it you are willing to organize it… >> >>> WOWODC '13 Brazil: beaches, beautiful girls... and no LTE (yet)! >>> >>> >>> On 17/10/2012, at 22:44, Pascal Robert wrote: >>> The Big Four (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Telus) have LTE, and it's fast (got 24 Mbps up/15 Mbps down in downtown). In fact, we had my iPad and 2 other iPads on LTE to help a bit, but I was thinking the limit was 15 users for sharing, not 5 :-/ > Do they have LTE in Canada? ;) > > On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:32 PM, David LeBer > wrote: > >> >> lte-enabled-iphone5-intenet-sharing >> >> >> On 2012-10-17, at 9:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >> >>> We could make it a WIFI-free event and let people concentrate on the >>> presentations instead of their laptops! I wonder how long people could >>> last before ducking out for a WIFI break :-P >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> On 2012-10-17, at 6:17 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: >>> Hi guys, Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the event? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net >>> >>> -- >>> Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development >>> >>> Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their >>> overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific >>> problems. >>> http://www.global-village.net/gvc/practical_webobjects >>> >>> Global Village Consulting ranks 13th in 2012 in BIV's Top 100 Fastest >>> Growing Companies in B.C! >>> Global Village Consulting ranks 76th in 24th annual PROFIT 200 ranking >>> of Canada’s Fastest-Growing Companies by PROFIT Magazine! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber_wodev%40codeferous.com >>> >>> This email sent to dleber_wo...@codeferous.com >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/kenlists%40anderhome.com >> >> This email sent to kenli...@anderhome.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/flavio%40donadio.com.br This email sent to fla...@donadio.com.br >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca >>> >>> This email sent to prob...@macti.ca >> >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/lon.varscsak%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to lon.varsc...@gmail.
Re: WOWODC 2013?
A bit late: we have to continue the event. The last one was successful even if some of us were/was upset. Of course, I don't forget it depends on you. Regarding the sessions and the fact that you organize and create and present sessions, you can rely on us (Sophiacom). We will have new stuffs to show. I would like also to be able to prepare "blitz" presentations, aka no longer than 10/15mn. I have several ideas in mind that I could present to the audience. I know the danger is that the preparation time (plug the mac, tests with screenflow, …) can take a long time but we could not record this kind of session for example. What do you think? Philippe On 18 oct. 2012, at 03:17, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hi guys, > > Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most > important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the > event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: > higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. > > But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the > event? > > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/prabier%40me.com > > This email sent to prab...@me.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOWODC 2013?
Hi Pascal, Am 18.10.2012 um 03:17 schrieb Pascal Robert : > Looking at the feedback we have every year, and it seems that the most > important thing to "fix" is WiFi. So that means we will have to move the > event to a larger hotel (Hilton, Delta, etc.), so you know what that means: > higher costs. But if WiFi is important, we don't have the choice. What about buying a professional MiFi hardware for the conference where you stick in an LTE SIM with a huge data plan that provides Wifi for enough clients? Shouldn't be more costly than $10 per person and could be reused the following years. And yes, Wifi is not unimportant. Keep in mind that WOWODC has many international visitors, most of which don't have a canadian data plan to use alternatively. You need to have some kind of internet connection during the trip sometimes, and if the hotel Wifi sucks it's just not so easy. I bought a Telus LTE SIM last time, but it's hard to keep it activated without charging money to it all the time that I can't use up. > But I'm wondering if people still care about WOWODC. Should we continue the > event? Nobody responded to this question so far - of course we should! This year's was only my second. I'm even willing to do a couple of presentations next time :) Maik ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
