Re: Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

2018-10-26 Thread Jesse Tayler
No idea, but I’d guess we should be able to put blobs in the migration somehow.

Are you able to upload a photo to a Talent? Try that and see if it works, if 
you can save, then we can update the migrations I’m sure.

We could call images from a free photo site -- perhaps fetch the data or even 
use the URLs

https://www.stockfreeimages.com/36682352/Orange-kitten-lie-on-the-bed.html

Having the model and whatever outside the app is cool for showing how 
frameworks can be shared. (I guess the Movie Rentals app uses the same model 
framework) However, it is also sorta of complicated for a demo app.

See if you can upload a photo image somehow using another database type and 
we’ll see what’s reasonable to do here.





> On Oct 26, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> No, No blobs :(
> 
> I was looking to see if we could upload some blobs in a migration.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:56 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm — are there blobs in it?
>> 
>> We just want a demo environment that people can unpack and just read/\write.
>> 
>> BTW, I guess I used this database or perhaps worked on the team while it was 
>> being built? I don’t know but I see the unusual name of a childhood friend 
>> in the Talent and I surely put that in years ago either at my desk and the 
>> file is still being used - or I guess I worked on this project before the 
>> files got frozen in time.
>> 
>> I also see a LOT of stuff from NetStruxr (a dot-bomb I once worked on) —this 
>> is I guess the “ER” named things come from — a terrible app but a really 
>> good team of smart D2W thinking people.
>> 
>> When we realized we were going out of business, we started to “open source” 
>> the code which was a way to pass it on to our future selves more than 
>> anything!
>> 
>> Anyway, apparently this code from NetStruxr was used to start Wonder, I’d 
>> guess very early 2001 or so…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>>> 
>>> BTW, I spent about 5 minutes and shifted the db to postgresql. I know you 
>>> use MySQL but it should be about the same.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
 
 Ha, well, that’s a good sleuthing job there Ted
 
 And that sounds about right, no blobs..sigh.
 
 I would LOVE to adapt the really old, outdated file upload UI — There’s a 
 nice looking file browser input widget we could support drag+drop or at 
 least do some handling up the upload progress or something.
 
 I’d also like to better test the new, fancy Card and Carousel objects 
 which of course rely on a set of URLs - as you can see, I canned the image 
 for each movie to the same URL...
 
 I wonder if there is any reasonably easy way to set up and test images 
 here?
 
 Ted? Could we use a different DB?
 
 Or maybe I should alter the model and hold an image URL and we can use 
 images we find around for testing…
 
 In my apps, I upload photos that get put in S3 buckets and scripts make 
 thumbnails and finally, I generate URLs based on the key ID and bucket 
 path but this takes like 20 steps to set up!
 
 Thoughts on how a modern app can test file uploads and photos?
 
 
 
 
 
> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> If I read this correctly, it is using the H2 in memory database. the 
> model is set up to have an entity TalentPhoto. The entity is set up to 
> have a blob. However in the sql  that is run when the app first starts, 
> there is a section that sets up the TalenPhoto. I see a lot of these:
> 
> INSERT INTO talentphoto VALUES (NULL,551);
> 
> that NULL is the blob! I don’t know how you would get any blobs into this 
> database.
> 
> http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok Great!
>> 
>> As for the DB? I’m a bit confused myself -
>> 
>> There’s a database running for me, I think the model is in a framework 
>> called ERMoviesLogic and yet another model is in another framework
>> 
>> I have trouble accessing photos, often one side of the database is down 
>> and I never seem to be able to access the blob data?
>> 
>> If anyone knows exactly how this database is working, please let us know!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Francois BIENTZ  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot , things are working better : the App can be run now , 
>>> except the database connection for me ...
>>> Do you use  the Derby database from the original example ? 
>>> where is the "substitute" EOmodel for D2w hidden ?
>>> 
 Le 25 oct. 2018 à 20:38, Jesse Tayler  a écrit :
 
 Beat me to the punch, I’ll go merge that now —
 
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Tim Worman  

Re: Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

2018-10-26 Thread Jesse Tayler
Hmm — are there blobs in it?

We just want a demo environment that people can unpack and just read/\write.

BTW, I guess I used this database or perhaps worked on the team while it was 
being built? I don’t know but I see the unusual name of a childhood friend in 
the Talent and I surely put that in years ago either at my desk and the file is 
still being used - or I guess I worked on this project before the files got 
frozen in time.

I also see a LOT of stuff from NetStruxr (a dot-bomb I once worked on) —this is 
I guess the “ER” named things come from — a terrible app but a really good team 
of smart D2W thinking people.

When we realized we were going out of business, we started to “open source” the 
code which was a way to pass it on to our future selves more than anything!

Anyway, apparently this code from NetStruxr was used to start Wonder, I’d guess 
very early 2001 or so…




> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> BTW, I spent about 5 minutes and shifted the db to postgresql. I know you use 
> MySQL but it should be about the same.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> Ha, well, that’s a good sleuthing job there Ted
>> 
>> And that sounds about right, no blobs..sigh.
>> 
>> I would LOVE to adapt the really old, outdated file upload UI — There’s a 
>> nice looking file browser input widget we could support drag+drop or at 
>> least do some handling up the upload progress or something.
>> 
>> I’d also like to better test the new, fancy Card and Carousel objects which 
>> of course rely on a set of URLs - as you can see, I canned the image for 
>> each movie to the same URL...
>> 
>> I wonder if there is any reasonably easy way to set up and test images here?
>> 
>> Ted? Could we use a different DB?
>> 
>> Or maybe I should alter the model and hold an image URL and we can use 
>> images we find around for testing…
>> 
>> In my apps, I upload photos that get put in S3 buckets and scripts make 
>> thumbnails and finally, I generate URLs based on the key ID and bucket path 
>> but this takes like 20 steps to set up!
>> 
>> Thoughts on how a modern app can test file uploads and photos?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I read this correctly, it is using the H2 in memory database. the model 
>>> is set up to have an entity TalentPhoto. The entity is set up to have a 
>>> blob. However in the sql  that is run when the app first starts, there is a 
>>> section that sets up the TalenPhoto. I see a lot of these:
>>> 
>>> INSERT INTO talentphoto VALUES (NULL,551);
>>> 
>>> that NULL is the blob! I don’t know how you would get any blobs into this 
>>> database.
>>> 
>>> http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
 
 Ok Great!
 
 As for the DB? I’m a bit confused myself -
 
 There’s a database running for me, I think the model is in a framework 
 called ERMoviesLogic and yet another model is in another framework
 
 I have trouble accessing photos, often one side of the database is down 
 and I never seem to be able to access the blob data?
 
 If anyone knows exactly how this database is working, please let us know!
 
 
 
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Francois BIENTZ  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot , things are working better : the App can be run now , 
> except the database connection for me ...
> Do you use  the Derby database from the original   example ? where is the 
> "substitute" EOmodel for D2w hidden ?
> 
>> Le 25 oct. 2018 à 20:38, Jesse Tayler  a écrit :
>> 
>> Beat me to the punch, I’ll go merge that now —
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Tim Worman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I forked the project and created a pull request that encapsulates these 
>>> changes. Hopefully that fixes the JRE issue.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
 On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Tim Worman  wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I just imported the framework project. I changed a couple things. 
 First, change the jdk to use “Workspace Default JRE." That may address 
 the error with the build path having a specific jdk set. Also, I think 
 the missing Libraries folder can be addressed the same way it is for 
 other Wonder frameworks - basically add an empty .gitignore inside the 
 Libraries folder.
 
 I’m getting quite a few errors in components for “In the WOD, there is 
 no key ‘ in ." Assuming these are keys that 
 will operate correctly at runtime, these should be marked with 
 ‘//VALID’ in the WOD.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Theodore Petrosky  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not pull today :(
> 
> how does it work with Wonder? I never had to change this 

Re: Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

2018-10-26 Thread Jesse Tayler
Ha, well, that’s a good sleuthing job there Ted

And that sounds about right, no blobs..sigh.

I would LOVE to adapt the really old, outdated file upload UI — There’s a nice 
looking file browser input widget we could support drag+drop or at least do 
some handling up the upload progress or something.

I’d also like to better test the new, fancy Card and Carousel objects which of 
course rely on a set of URLs - as you can see, I canned the image for each 
movie to the same URL...

I wonder if there is any reasonably easy way to set up and test images here?

Ted? Could we use a different DB?

Or maybe I should alter the model and hold an image URL and we can use images 
we find around for testing…

In my apps, I upload photos that get put in S3 buckets and scripts make 
thumbnails and finally, I generate URLs based on the key ID and bucket path but 
this takes like 20 steps to set up!

Thoughts on how a modern app can test file uploads and photos?





> On Oct 26, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> If I read this correctly, it is using the H2 in memory database. the model is 
> set up to have an entity TalentPhoto. The entity is set up to have a blob. 
> However in the sql  that is run when the app first starts, there is a section 
> that sets up the TalenPhoto. I see a lot of these:
> 
> INSERT INTO talentphoto VALUES (NULL,551);
> 
> that NULL is the blob! I don’t know how you would get any blobs into this 
> database.
> 
> http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html
> 
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2018, at 7:04 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok Great!
>> 
>> As for the DB? I’m a bit confused myself -
>> 
>> There’s a database running for me, I think the model is in a framework 
>> called ERMoviesLogic and yet another model is in another framework
>> 
>> I have trouble accessing photos, often one side of the database is down and 
>> I never seem to be able to access the blob data?
>> 
>> If anyone knows exactly how this database is working, please let us know!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Francois BIENTZ  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot , things are working better : the App can be run now , except 
>>> the database connection for me ...
>>> Do you use  the Derby database from the original example ? where is the 
>>> "substitute" EOmodel for D2w hidden ?
>>> 
 Le 25 oct. 2018 à 20:38, Jesse Tayler  a écrit :
 
 Beat me to the punch, I’ll go merge that now —
 
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Tim Worman  wrote:
> 
> I forked the project and created a pull request that encapsulates these 
> changes. Hopefully that fixes the JRE issue.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Tim Worman  wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I just imported the framework project. I changed a couple things. First, 
>> change the jdk to use “Workspace Default JRE." That may address the 
>> error with the build path having a specific jdk set. Also, I think the 
>> missing Libraries folder can be addressed the same way it is for other 
>> Wonder frameworks - basically add an empty .gitignore inside the 
>> Libraries folder.
>> 
>> I’m getting quite a few errors in components for “In the WOD, there is 
>> no key ‘ in ." Assuming these are keys that 
>> will operate correctly at runtime, these should be marked with ‘//VALID’ 
>> in the WOD.
>> 
>> Tim
>> UCLA GSEIS
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Theodore Petrosky  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did not pull today :(
>>> 
>>> how does it work with Wonder? I never had to change this when I cloned 
>>> Wonder. It just opened using the Java that I had. Maybe I was just 
>>> lucky.
>>> 
>>> I will pull in a little while.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 25, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
 
 Should we change that setting?
 
 Ted? You used Ant to build the framework and then just right-click on 
 application class to use Run As WoApplication, right?
 
 Did you pull whatever is there today and all that?
 
 
 
> On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:31 PM, Theodore Petrosky  
> wrote:
> 
> when i opened your project, the java was listed as jdk_1.7  I did not 
> have that jdk so I had to link in what I have  jdk 1.8.0_144
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m cc’ing Robert here who’s great with configuration, I run the app 
>> using the right click wonder app options not the build file myself
>> 
>> My build.xml for the app looks normal and ends with
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The build.xml for the frameworks looks normal and far more complex 
>> and begins with
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I do see that perhaps because I have 

Re: Re: Interested in Modern UI Kits, like Bootstrap?

2018-10-26 Thread Jesse Tayler
Ok Great!

As for the DB? I’m a bit confused myself -

There’s a database running for me, I think the model is in a framework called 
ERMoviesLogic and yet another model is in another framework

I have trouble accessing photos, often one side of the database is down and I 
never seem to be able to access the blob data?

If anyone knows exactly how this database is working, please let us know!



> On Oct 25, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Francois BIENTZ  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot , things are working better : the App can be run now , except 
> the database connection for me ...
> Do you use  the Derby database from the original   example ? where is the 
> "substitute" EOmodel for D2w hidden ?
> 
>> Le 25 oct. 2018 à 20:38, Jesse Tayler  a écrit :
>> 
>> Beat me to the punch, I’ll go merge that now —
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 2:34 PM, Tim Worman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I forked the project and created a pull request that encapsulates these 
>>> changes. Hopefully that fixes the JRE issue.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
 On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Tim Worman  wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I just imported the framework project. I changed a couple things. First, 
 change the jdk to use “Workspace Default JRE." That may address the error 
 with the build path having a specific jdk set. Also, I think the missing 
 Libraries folder can be addressed the same way it is for other Wonder 
 frameworks - basically add an empty .gitignore inside the Libraries folder.
 
 I’m getting quite a few errors in components for “In the WOD, there is no 
 key ‘ in ." Assuming these are keys that will 
 operate correctly at runtime, these should be marked with ‘//VALID’ in the 
 WOD.
 
 Tim
 UCLA GSEIS
 
> On Oct 25, 2018, at 11:14 AM, Theodore Petrosky  wrote:
> 
> I did not pull today :(
> 
> how does it work with Wonder? I never had to change this when I cloned 
> Wonder. It just opened using the Java that I had. Maybe I was just lucky.
> 
> I will pull in a little while.
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>> Should we change that setting?
>> 
>> Ted? You used Ant to build the framework and then just right-click on 
>> application class to use Run As WoApplication, right?
>> 
>> Did you pull whatever is there today and all that?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:31 PM, Theodore Petrosky  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> when i opened your project, the java was listed as jdk_1.7  I did not 
>>> have that jdk so I had to link in what I have  jdk 1.8.0_144
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
 
 I’m cc’ing Robert here who’s great with configuration, I run the app 
 using the right click wonder app options not the build file myself
 
 My build.xml for the app looks normal and ends with
 
 
 
 
 The build.xml for the frameworks looks normal and far more complex and 
 begins with
 
 
 
 
 I do see that perhaps because I have peculiar JAVA settings that there 
 may be JAVA issues, and come to think of it, criss-crossed JAVA 
 versions can cause normal classes like the Application class not to 
 build…
 
 I bet you might see detail in your backtrace about classes loading. 
 I’m going to say this is something to do with your build-settings and 
 specifically the JAVA version numbers being used
 
 Seems to me the framework might be 1.7 and my app is perhaps 1.8 or 
 SE7 and SE8
 
 I could have checked in a mismatch that perhaps needs adjusting? 
 Robert? 
 
 
 
> On Oct 24, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Francois BIENTZ  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes I’m able to run other Wonder Apps
> 
> For the BootstrapModernLook Framework it works now (ant needs a 
> Library in folder in the Eclipse project )  I right clicked on 
> build.xml  — WOLips ant tools — install
> What did you put in this Library directory ? 
> 
> Then for the App I tried to use ant too (right click on build.xml), 
> but I obtain : Build failed : Error reading project file 
> /Users/franc/Build/build/build.xml: /Users/franc/Build/build/build.xml
> such directory don’t exist on my home. (but the build.xml of the App 
> don’t look like the xml file in other  Wonder Apps projects )
> 
> I have to search more what can be wrong on my environment 
> 
> Thank you Jesse 
> 
>> Le 24 oct. 2018 à 23:46, Jesse Tayler  a écrit :
>> 
>> I’m not certain why you’d get that —
>> 
>> Let’s see, sounds like perhaps it hasn’t got ERXApplication or there