Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Theodore Petrosky
And JMHO there is finally a core of Free videos that should get anyone started.

But I can say, that without them, I would have given up a long time ago. I 
still go back and re-watch them and realize that some problem I had was because 
I missed some very little comment from the presenter.



--- On Thu, 5/2/13, Pascal Robert  wrote:

> From: Pascal Robert 
> Subject: Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available
> To: "David LeBer" 
> Cc: "WebObjects Development" 
> Date: Thursday, May 2, 2013, 11:03 AM
> 
> Le 2013-05-02 à 10:57, David LeBer 
> a écrit :
> 
> > It's a tough decision.
> > 
> > Running the community is not free, there are cost
> involved and the only revenue we have it the memberships.
> Early access to the videos is a significant incentive to
> purchasing them.
> > 
> > The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on
> enlarging the community to any great degree. Certainly not
> to the point where risking the benefits that the WOCommunity
> org brings by sabotaging it's revenue stream makes any kind
> of sense.
> > 
> > Some videos are always released immediately after
> WOWODC for free, and community members are always welcome to
> create their own and post them anytime they want. 
> 
> And in the last two years, we also released the slides for
> all presentations a couple of days after the conference.
> 
> > 
> > The current rules still make sense to me.
> > 
> > D
> > 
> > --
> > David LeBer
> > Codeferous Software
> > 
> > On 2013-05-02, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler 
> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping
> things private has its place.
> >> 
> >> I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as
> are my tickets to the event, however- 
> >> 
> >> I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow
> community myself, is all. 
> >> 
> >> since I'm not in charge of the community, this is
> of course, just my casual outsider's observation.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer 
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Jesse,
> >>> 
> >>> Members have full immediate access, and
> memberships are not expensive.
> >>> 
> >>> D
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> David LeBer
> >>> Codeferous Software
> >>> 
> >>> On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler 
> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> why are we keeping videos private until
> they are a year old?
> >>>> 
> >>>> they should be published right away so
> people can use them.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert
> 
> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Looks like I forgot two presentations:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>     • Persistent
> Session Storage 
> >>>>>     • Security and
> performance designs for client-server communications
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm adding them right now.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> As we do every year just before the
> "current" WOWODC, we released the recordings from the
> previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone.
> Presentations:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>     • COScheduler
> in Depth 
> >>>>>>     • Apache FTP
> Server Integration 
> >>>>>>     • CMS / Blog
> and SnoWOman 
> >>>>>>     • Practical
> ERSync 
> >>>>>>     • WebObjects
> Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
> >>>>>>     • Dynamic
> Elements 
> >>>>>>     • ERRest: The
> Basics 
> >>>>>>     • ERRest: The
> Next Steps 
> >>>>>>     • ERRest in
> Depth 
> >>>>>>     • D2W Branding
> using jQuery ThemeRoller 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html
> or in the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings
> in priority, either become a paid member of the WOCommunity
> Association, or even better, come to WOWODC 2013!
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick Abuzeni, MD
Jesse,
I am certain that no one, you included, would give out your code for free in 
the interest of growing your business. If that were true, I am sure this 
community and others would follow in those footsteps. I have full confidence in 
the community leaders that they know what they are doing. They distribute what 
they can for free, but there has to be a limit in order to cover basic overhead.

Patrick

On May 2, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:

> 
> indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.
> 
> I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, 
> however- 
> 
> I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 
> 
> since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
> outsider's observation.
> 
> 
> On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer  wrote:
> 
>> Jesse,
>> 
>> Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> --
>> David LeBer
>> Codeferous Software
>> 
>> On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
>>> 
>>> they should be published right away so people can use them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>>> 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
• Persistent Session Storage 
• Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
> As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
> recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
> Presentations:
> 
>   • COScheduler in Depth 
>   • Apache FTP Server Integration 
>   • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
>   • Practical ERSync 
>   • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
>   • Dynamic Elements 
>   • ERRest: The Basics 
>   • ERRest: The Next Steps 
>   • ERRest in Depth 
>   • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
> 
> Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
> the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
> become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
> to WOWODC 2013!
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert

Le 2013-05-02 à 10:57, David LeBer  a écrit :

> It's a tough decision.
> 
> Running the community is not free, there are cost involved and the only 
> revenue we have it the memberships. Early access to the videos is a 
> significant incentive to purchasing them.
> 
> The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on enlarging the community 
> to any great degree. Certainly not to the point where risking the benefits 
> that the WOCommunity org brings by sabotaging it's revenue stream makes any 
> kind of sense.
> 
> Some videos are always released immediately after WOWODC for free, and 
> community members are always welcome to create their own and post them 
> anytime they want. 

And in the last two years, we also released the slides for all presentations a 
couple of days after the conference.

> 
> The current rules still make sense to me.
> 
> D
> 
> --
> David LeBer
> Codeferous Software
> 
> On 2013-05-02, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.
>> 
>> I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the 
>> event, however- 
>> 
>> I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 
>> 
>> since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
>> outsider's observation.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer  wrote:
>> 
>>> Jesse,
>>> 
>>> Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
>>> 
>>> D
>>> 
>>> --
>>> David LeBer
>>> Codeferous Software
>>> 
>>> On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>>> 
 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
 
> Looks like I forgot two presentations:
> 
>   • Persistent Session Storage 
>   • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
> 
> I'm adding them right now.
> 
>> As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
>> recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
>> Presentations:
>> 
>>  • COScheduler in Depth 
>>  • Apache FTP Server Integration 
>>  • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
>>  • Practical ERSync 
>>  • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
>>  • Dynamic Elements 
>>  • ERRest: The Basics 
>>  • ERRest: The Next Steps 
>>  • ERRest in Depth 
>>  • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
>> 
>> Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or 
>> in the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, 
>> either become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even 
>> better, come to WOWODC 2013!
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread David LeBer
It's a tough decision.

Running the community is not free, there are cost involved and the only revenue 
we have it the memberships. Early access to the videos is a significant 
incentive to purchasing them.

The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on enlarging the community to 
any great degree. Certainly not to the point where risking the benefits that 
the WOCommunity org brings by sabotaging it's revenue stream makes any kind of 
sense.

Some videos are always released immediately after WOWODC for free, and 
community members are always welcome to create their own and post them anytime 
they want. 

The current rules still make sense to me.

D

--
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Codeferous Software

On 2013-05-02, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:

> 
> indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.
> 
> I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, 
> however- 
> 
> I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 
> 
> since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
> outsider's observation.
> 
> 
> On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer  wrote:
> 
>> Jesse,
>> 
>> Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
>> 
>> D
>> 
>> --
>> David LeBer
>> Codeferous Software
>> 
>> On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
>>> 
>>> they should be published right away so people can use them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>>> 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
• Persistent Session Storage 
• Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
> As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
> recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
> Presentations:
> 
>   • COScheduler in Depth 
>   • Apache FTP Server Integration 
>   • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
>   • Practical ERSync 
>   • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
>   • Dynamic Elements 
>   • ERRest: The Basics 
>   • ERRest: The Next Steps 
>   • ERRest in Depth 
>   • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
> 
> Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
> the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
> become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
> to WOWODC 2013!
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
>> 
>> why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
>> 
>> they should be published right away so people can use them.

And the hosting of WOCommunity.org and other things will magically be paid by 
magic? I had stopped working for ONE MONTH last year to work on my WOWODC 
presentations (and the organization, and editing the recordings) last year and 
I would have to pay for the WOCommunity hosting out of my pocket so that people 
who wants access to the content don't pay 50$ a year? Sorry, but no.

>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks like I forgot two presentations:
>>> 
>>> • Persistent Session Storage 
>>> • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
>>> 
>>> I'm adding them right now.
>>> 
 As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
• COScheduler in Depth 
• Apache FTP Server Integration 
• CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
• Practical ERSync 
• WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
• Dynamic Elements 
• ERRest: The Basics 
• ERRest: The Next Steps 
• ERRest in Depth 
• D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
 become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Jesse Tayler

indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.

I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, 
however- 

I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 

since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
outsider's observation.


On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer  wrote:

> Jesse,
> 
> Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
> 
> D
> 
> --
> David LeBer
> Codeferous Software
> 
> On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
>> 
>> they should be published right away so people can use them.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks like I forgot two presentations:
>>> 
>>> • Persistent Session Storage 
>>> • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
>>> 
>>> I'm adding them right now.
>>> 
 As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
• COScheduler in Depth 
• Apache FTP Server Integration 
• CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
• Practical ERSync 
• WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
• Dynamic Elements 
• ERRest: The Basics 
• ERRest: The Next Steps 
• ERRest in Depth 
• D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
 become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread David LeBer
Jesse,

Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.

D

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On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler  wrote:

> 
> why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
> 
> they should be published right away so people can use them.
> 
> 
> On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
> 
>> Looks like I forgot two presentations:
>> 
>>  • Persistent Session Storage 
>>  • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
>> 
>> I'm adding them right now.
>> 
>>> As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
>>> recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
>>> Presentations:
>>> 
>>> • COScheduler in Depth 
>>> • Apache FTP Server Integration 
>>> • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
>>> • Practical ERSync 
>>> • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
>>> • Dynamic Elements 
>>> • ERRest: The Basics 
>>> • ERRest: The Next Steps 
>>> • ERRest in Depth 
>>> • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
>>> 
>>> Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
>>> the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
>>> become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
>>> to WOWODC 2013!
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Jesse Tayler

why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?

they should be published right away so people can use them.


On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert  wrote:

> Looks like I forgot two presentations:
> 
>   • Persistent Session Storage 
>   • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
> 
> I'm adding them right now.
> 
>> As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
>> recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
>> Presentations:
>> 
>>  • COScheduler in Depth 
>>  • Apache FTP Server Integration 
>>  • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
>>  • Practical ERSync 
>>  • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
>>  • Dynamic Elements 
>>  • ERRest: The Basics 
>>  • ERRest: The Next Steps 
>>  • ERRest in Depth 
>>  • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
>> 
>> Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
>> the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
>> become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come to 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Looks like I forgot two presentations:

• Persistent Session Storage 
• Security and performance designs for client-server communications

I'm adding them right now.

> As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
> recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
> Presentations:
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>   • COScheduler in Depth 
>   • Apache FTP Server Integration 
>   • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
>   • Practical ERSync 
>   • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
>   • Dynamic Elements 
>   • ERRest: The Basics 
>   • ERRest: The Next Steps 
>   • ERRest in Depth 
>   • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
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All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
As we do every year just before the "current" WOWODC, we released the 
recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
Presentations:

• COScheduler in Depth 
• Apache FTP Server Integration 
• CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
• Practical ERSync 
• WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
• Dynamic Elements 
• ERRest: The Basics 
• ERRest: The Next Steps 
• ERRest in Depth 
• D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 

Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in the 
RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either become a 
paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come to WOWODC 2013!
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