Re: Fluffy Bunny question

2012-07-19 Thread arosenzweig
Hi Sharpy, Jesse, and John,

I appreciate your replies.

We are running Applications that only extend the ERAjax lineage bypassing 
full blown ERXApplication. We are using almost the same as you Sharpy. 
Same Eclipse version but newer WOLips. Specifically we're running:
Eclipse 3.7.2
WOLips 3.7.20120625.26

Regarding putting your model files inside a framework in the folder 
Resources/model on the one hand Sharpy says yes it works. Others say 
no it doesn't and for good reason. 

Sharpy please explain your configuration a bit more. I may switch to your 
older version of WOLips to try it out. Not real easy because we are behind 
a proxy at the office... need to go out to a coffee shop... not your 
problem but...

This morning encouraged by Sharpy's experience we tried again. Here's what 
we found:

1) If your app and framework are in the same workspace with a dependency 
it will not work. When you run your app it will error out early on saying 
it can't find the first EOModel file it needs from the defaultModelGroup.

2) If we right click on our framework in Eclipse and then close it that 
makes it dead to Eclipse. Your app will automatically go to the installed 
location of the framework and try to use that. In this method, yes it will 
find your model files and use them. But now you've lost the ability to 
debug your framework code in real time and several other niceties. If you 
dig deeper, into the compiled framework in the installed location, you'll 
see that the model files are saved directly in Resources not in 
Resources/model That part about moving where they are installed doesn't 
bother me that much but it might also explain a few things. 

So yes, I understand we should all use Fluffy Bunny for many reasons, 
including picking up a new project as part of a new team and feeling at 
home. We all speak the same configuration lingo. That's great. I just 
thought it made logical sense to recursively look for model files inside 
of the Resources directory in the same way that you can with an image 
resource by just specifying its project (but not its path). When you have 
a lot of models, and other files, it is just nice to be together... But I 
guess WO is not that way?

Sharpy, please elaborate on your setup :-)

Thank you,
-- Aaron



From:   Michael Sharp getsh...@gmail.com
To: arosenzw...@clinworx.com
Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Date:   07/18/2012 07:31 PM
Subject:Re: Fluffy Bunny question



I use folders for nesting models  eogen files within the Resources 
directory. 

I have some frameworks with enough models to make expanding the Resources 
folder in WO Explorer visually disturbing, so recently tried the nesting 
approach and haven't had any problems.

Running only ERXApplications on:
Eclipse 3.7.2
WOLips 3.7.20120329.160038


Sharpy...

On 19/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote:

Hi WOrriors, 

Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked 
on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / 
Eclipse / WOnder related. 

Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into 
Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or 
must I obey the bunny? 

Many thanks, 
-- Aaron 

- Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - 

From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf 
To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net 
Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM 
Subject:Fluffy Bunny question 


Hi WOrriors, 

I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in 
the Resources directory of the framework. 

In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. 

When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the 
EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The 
various EO model files cannot be found. 

Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put 
everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go 
to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? 

Many thanks for any tips or pointers, 
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Fw: Fluffy Bunny question

2012-07-18 Thread arosenzweig
Hi WOrriors,

Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked 
on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / 
Eclipse / WOnder related.

Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into 
Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or 
must I obey the bunny?

Many thanks,
-- Aaron

- Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM -

From:   Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf
To: Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net
Date:   07/16/2012 03:40 PM
Subject:Fluffy Bunny question


Hi WOrriors,

I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in 
the Resources directory of the framework.

In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine.

When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the 
EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The 
various EO model files cannot be found.

Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put 
everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go 
to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file?

Many thanks for any tips or pointers,
-- Aaron
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Re: Fluffy Bunny question

2012-07-18 Thread Jesse Tayler

obey the bunny!




On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:22 PM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote:

 Hi WOrriors, 
 
 Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on 
 the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse 
 / WOnder related. 
 
 Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into 
 Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or 
 must I obey the bunny? 
 
 Many thanks, 
 -- Aaron 
 
 - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - 
 
 From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf 
 To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM 
 Subject:Fluffy Bunny question 
 
 
 Hi WOrriors, 
 
 I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the 
 Resources directory of the framework. 
 
 In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. 
 
 When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO 
 model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various 
 EO model files cannot be found. 
 
 Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put 
 everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to 
 make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? 
 
 Many thanks for any tips or pointers, 
 -- Aaron ___
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Re: Fluffy Bunny question

2012-07-18 Thread John Huss
+1  The tools just aren't robust enough to handle edge cases and aren't
likely to change, and even if they did it would be likely to break in the
future.  Following the crowd is the best approach here.

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:


 obey the bunny!

 On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:22 PM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote:

  Hi WOrriors,
 
  Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get
 asked on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or
 WOLips / Eclipse / WOnder related.
 
  Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into
 Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or
 must I obey the bunny?
 
  Many thanks,
  -- Aaron
 
  - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM -
 
  From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf
  To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net
  Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM
  Subject:Fluffy Bunny question
 
 
  Hi WOrriors,
 
  I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in
 the Resources directory of the framework.
 
  In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine.
 
  When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move
 the EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The
 various EO model files cannot be found.
 
  Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put
 everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go
 to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file?
 
  Many thanks for any tips or pointers,
  -- Aaron ___
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Re: Fluffy Bunny question

2012-07-18 Thread Michael Sharp
I use folders for nesting models  eogen files within the Resources directory. 

I have some frameworks with enough models to make expanding the Resources 
folder in WO Explorer visually disturbing, so recently tried the nesting 
approach and haven't had any problems.

Running only ERXApplications on:
Eclipse 3.7.2
WOLips 3.7.20120329.160038


Sharpy...

On 19/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote:

 Hi WOrriors, 
 
 Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on 
 the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse 
 / WOnder related. 
 
 Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into 
 Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or 
 must I obey the bunny? 
 
 Many thanks, 
 -- Aaron 
 
 - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - 
 
 From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf 
 To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM 
 Subject:Fluffy Bunny question 
 
 
 Hi WOrriors, 
 
 I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the 
 Resources directory of the framework. 
 
 In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. 
 
 When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO 
 model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various 
 EO model files cannot be found. 
 
 Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put 
 everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to 
 make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? 
 
 Many thanks for any tips or pointers, 
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