Re: Fluffy Bunny question
Hi Sharpy, Jesse, and John, I appreciate your replies. We are running Applications that only extend the ERAjax lineage bypassing full blown ERXApplication. We are using almost the same as you Sharpy. Same Eclipse version but newer WOLips. Specifically we're running: Eclipse 3.7.2 WOLips 3.7.20120625.26 Regarding putting your model files inside a framework in the folder Resources/model on the one hand Sharpy says yes it works. Others say no it doesn't and for good reason. Sharpy please explain your configuration a bit more. I may switch to your older version of WOLips to try it out. Not real easy because we are behind a proxy at the office... need to go out to a coffee shop... not your problem but... This morning encouraged by Sharpy's experience we tried again. Here's what we found: 1) If your app and framework are in the same workspace with a dependency it will not work. When you run your app it will error out early on saying it can't find the first EOModel file it needs from the defaultModelGroup. 2) If we right click on our framework in Eclipse and then close it that makes it dead to Eclipse. Your app will automatically go to the installed location of the framework and try to use that. In this method, yes it will find your model files and use them. But now you've lost the ability to debug your framework code in real time and several other niceties. If you dig deeper, into the compiled framework in the installed location, you'll see that the model files are saved directly in Resources not in Resources/model That part about moving where they are installed doesn't bother me that much but it might also explain a few things. So yes, I understand we should all use Fluffy Bunny for many reasons, including picking up a new project as part of a new team and feeling at home. We all speak the same configuration lingo. That's great. I just thought it made logical sense to recursively look for model files inside of the Resources directory in the same way that you can with an image resource by just specifying its project (but not its path). When you have a lot of models, and other files, it is just nice to be together... But I guess WO is not that way? Sharpy, please elaborate on your setup :-) Thank you, -- Aaron From: Michael Sharp getsh...@gmail.com To: arosenzw...@clinworx.com Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Date: 07/18/2012 07:31 PM Subject:Re: Fluffy Bunny question I use folders for nesting models eogen files within the Resources directory. I have some frameworks with enough models to make expanding the Resources folder in WO Explorer visually disturbing, so recently tried the nesting approach and haven't had any problems. Running only ERXApplications on: Eclipse 3.7.2 WOLips 3.7.20120329.160038 Sharpy... On 19/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote: Hi WOrriors, Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse / WOnder related. Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or must I obey the bunny? Many thanks, -- Aaron - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM Subject:Fluffy Bunny question Hi WOrriors, I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the Resources directory of the framework. In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various EO model files cannot be found. Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? Many thanks for any tips or pointers, -- Aaron ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/getsharp%40gmail.com This email sent to getsh...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Fw: Fluffy Bunny question
Hi WOrriors, Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse / WOnder related. Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or must I obey the bunny? Many thanks, -- Aaron - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - From: Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf To: Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net Date: 07/16/2012 03:40 PM Subject:Fluffy Bunny question Hi WOrriors, I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the Resources directory of the framework. In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various EO model files cannot be found. Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? Many thanks for any tips or pointers, -- Aaron ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Fluffy Bunny question
obey the bunny! On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:22 PM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote: Hi WOrriors, Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse / WOnder related. Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or must I obey the bunny? Many thanks, -- Aaron - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM Subject:Fluffy Bunny question Hi WOrriors, I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the Resources directory of the framework. In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various EO model files cannot be found. Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? Many thanks for any tips or pointers, -- Aaron ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jtayler%40oeinc.com This email sent to jtay...@oeinc.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Fluffy Bunny question
+1 The tools just aren't robust enough to handle edge cases and aren't likely to change, and even if they did it would be likely to break in the future. Following the crowd is the best approach here. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote: obey the bunny! On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:22 PM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote: Hi WOrriors, Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse / WOnder related. Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or must I obey the bunny? Many thanks, -- Aaron - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM Subject:Fluffy Bunny question Hi WOrriors, I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the Resources directory of the framework. In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various EO model files cannot be found. Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? Many thanks for any tips or pointers, -- Aaron ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jtayler%40oeinc.com This email sent to jtay...@oeinc.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Fluffy Bunny question
I use folders for nesting models eogen files within the Resources directory. I have some frameworks with enough models to make expanding the Resources folder in WO Explorer visually disturbing, so recently tried the nesting approach and haven't had any problems. Running only ERXApplications on: Eclipse 3.7.2 WOLips 3.7.20120329.160038 Sharpy... On 19/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote: Hi WOrriors, Sorry for the cross post but it seems these days most questions get asked on the Apple lists regardless if they are pure Apple related or WOLips / Eclipse / WOnder related. Anyone have some advice for me? I'd like to put my EOModel files into Resources/model but fluffy bunny isn't happy. Do I have any recourse or must I obey the bunny? Many thanks, -- Aaron - Forwarded by Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf on 07/18/2012 05:20 PM - From:Aaron Rosenzweig/hq/hjf To:Wonder Project wonder-d...@lists.sourceforge.net Date:07/16/2012 03:40 PM Subject:Fluffy Bunny question Hi WOrriors, I have an app and a separate WO framework. All my EO model files are in the Resources directory of the framework. In Eclipse, when I run the app, everything is fine. When I make a Resources/model folder in the framework and then move the EO model files into it, I can no longer run my app within Eclipse. The various EO model files cannot be found. Ok, so this is not-so-fluffy bunny but what if I really want to put everything in Resources/model at least during development? Where do I go to make this happen? Is it in WOlips itself or some XML file? Many thanks for any tips or pointers, -- Aaron ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/getsharp%40gmail.com This email sent to getsh...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com