Re: LoadBalancer
I have found the implementation of the scheduler algorithms within mod_webobjects. See Adaptor/loadaverage.c, random.c and roundrobin.c There you can see, that multiple http servers can send requests to application instances, but every http server holds its own index. So the balancing will not be perfect over multiple servers: From roundrobin.c: "There can be a problem with R/R when multiple http servers (with WebObjects adaptors) are forwarding requests to instances: each server/adaptor maintains its own index for round robin. This use of adaptor local data can cause undesired r/r behaviour - including the worst case: each server/adaptor sending requests to the same instance." LoadAverage works in a similar way, as you can see within the code, some responses from the application will contain additional headers, which contain information about the state of the instance (defined within config.h): x-webobjects-loadaverage x-webobjects-refusenewsessions With these headers the balancer can better decide, which instance should be used. But the values will be cached on the current mod_webobject adaptor, so the next request on another http server will use its own old cached values for the decision (updated within loadaverage.c la_finalize() after the decision). As I understand the code, the decision bases on the cached values, which will be updated after the request is bound to the chosen instance. But the cached values will not mirror the changes made by the other http servers and their mod_webobjects for the current request (only for the next request). ~André Am 24.09.19 um 16:02 schrieb Michael Kondratov via Webobjects-dev: > Yes > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 24, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Mark Gowdy wrote: >> >> Does that work across multiple machines? >> >>> On 10 Sep 2019, at 20:53, Michael Kondratov via Webobjects-dev >>> >> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Daniel, >>> It is pretty easy. It is worth looking into >>> enabling ERJGroupsSynchronizer. >>> >>> er.extensions.remoteSynchronizer=er.jgroups.ERJGroupsSynchronizer >>> er.extensions.jgroupsSynchronizer.multicastAddress=230.0.0.1 >>> jgroups.udp.mcast_port=9755 >>> >>> That will synchronize changes across instances. >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 10, 2019, at 3:44 AM, daniel.bietenbeck--- via Webobjects-dev >>>> >>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> small side question to the topic. >>>> >>>> Is there a good tutorial for upgrading an application from single >>>> instance to multi instance? common pitfalls etc.? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Daniel Bietenbeck >>>> Leiter IT >>>> *...**fröbus * >>>> Medien. Dienst. Leistung. >>>> >>>> Julius Fröbus GmbH • Schanzenstr. 6-20 • Werkstatt 1.09 • 51063 Köln >>>> • Deutschland >>>> Phone: +49 (0) 221 346 35 137 • Fax: +49 (0) 221 346 35 200 >>>> daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de >>>> <mailto:daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de> • www.froebus.de >>>> <http://www.froebus.de/> >>>> >>>> Geschäftsführung: Gerd Hecheltjen, Frank Bayerl >>>> Amtsgericht Köln • HRB 1118 • Finanzamt Brühl • UST-IdNr. DE 122788692 >>>> >>>>> Am 09.09.2019 um 23:48 schrieb Morris, Mark via Webobjects-dev >>>>> >>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>: >>>>> >>>>> Hi André, >>>>> >>>>> If in reality the situation is as simple as your example, perhaps >>>>> you could just create a separate single instance with a distinct >>>>> name for your “defined instance", and use that for requests that >>>>> require it. We do something like that for certain special situations. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 9, 2019, at 3:06 PM, André Rothe via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use >>>>>> "Round Robin" for our application, but I asked myself, how I could >>>>>> implement a custom scheduler for a specific problem (multiple >>>>>> instances of an application, but so
Re: LoadBalancer
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Mark Gowdy wrote: > > Does that work across multiple machines? > >> On 10 Sep 2019, at 20:53, Michael Kondratov via Webobjects-dev >> wrote: >> >> Daniel, >> It is pretty easy. It is worth looking into enabling >> ERJGroupsSynchronizer. >> >> er.extensions.remoteSynchronizer=er.jgroups.ERJGroupsSynchronizer >> er.extensions.jgroupsSynchronizer.multicastAddress=230.0.0.1 >> jgroups.udp.mcast_port=9755 >> >> That will synchronize changes across instances. >> >> Michael >> >> >>> On Sep 10, 2019, at 3:44 AM, daniel.bietenbeck--- via Webobjects-dev >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> small side question to the topic. >>> >>> Is there a good tutorial for upgrading an application from single instance >>> to multi instance? common pitfalls etc.? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Daniel Bietenbeck >>> Leiter IT >>> ...fröbus >>> Medien. Dienst. Leistung. >>> >>> Julius Fröbus GmbH • Schanzenstr. 6-20 • Werkstatt 1.09 • 51063 Köln • >>> Deutschland >>> Phone: +49 (0) 221 346 35 137 • Fax: +49 (0) 221 346 35 200 >>> daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de • www.froebus.de >>> >>> Geschäftsführung: Gerd Hecheltjen, Frank Bayerl >>> Amtsgericht Köln • HRB 1118 • Finanzamt Brühl • UST-IdNr. DE 122788692 >>> >>>> Am 09.09.2019 um 23:48 schrieb Morris, Mark via Webobjects-dev >>>> : >>>> >>>> Hi André, >>>> >>>> If in reality the situation is as simple as your example, perhaps you >>>> could just create a separate single instance with a distinct name for your >>>> “defined instance", and use that for requests that require it. We do >>>> something like that for certain special situations. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Mark >>>> >>>>> On Sep 9, 2019, at 3:06 PM, André Rothe via Webobjects-dev >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use "Round >>>>> Robin" for our application, but I asked myself, how I could implement a >>>>> custom scheduler for a specific problem (multiple instances of an >>>>> application, but some requests should always use a defined instance, all >>>>> all other requests should be redirected and balanced between the other >>>>> instances). Is there an interface, which my scheduler has to implement? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> André >>>>> ___ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mark.morris%40experian.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to mark.mor...@experian.com >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/daniel.bietenbeck%40froebus.de >>>> >>>> This email sent to daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de >>> >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/michael%40aspireauctions.com >>> >>> This email sent to mich...@aspireauctions.com >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mark%40gowdy.co.uk >> >> This email sent to m...@gowdy.co.uk > ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: LoadBalancer
Daniel, It is pretty easy. It is worth looking into enabling ERJGroupsSynchronizer. er.extensions.remoteSynchronizer=er.jgroups.ERJGroupsSynchronizer er.extensions.jgroupsSynchronizer.multicastAddress=230.0.0.1 jgroups.udp.mcast_port=9755 That will synchronize changes across instances. Michael > On Sep 10, 2019, at 3:44 AM, daniel.bietenbeck--- via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Hi there, > > small side question to the topic. > > Is there a good tutorial for upgrading an application from single instance to > multi instance? common pitfalls etc.? > > Best regards, > Daniel Bietenbeck > Leiter IT > ...fröbus > Medien. Dienst. Leistung. > > Julius Fröbus GmbH • Schanzenstr. 6-20 • Werkstatt 1.09 • 51063 Köln • > Deutschland > Phone: +49 (0) 221 346 35 137 • Fax: +49 (0) 221 346 35 200 > daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de <mailto:daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de> • > www.froebus.de <http://www.froebus.de/> > > Geschäftsführung: Gerd Hecheltjen, Frank Bayerl > Amtsgericht Köln • HRB 1118 • Finanzamt Brühl • UST-IdNr. DE 122788692 > >> Am 09.09.2019 um 23:48 schrieb Morris, Mark via Webobjects-dev >> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>: >> >> Hi André, >> >> If in reality the situation is as simple as your example, perhaps you could >> just create a separate single instance with a distinct name for your >> “defined instance", and use that for requests that require it. We do >> something like that for certain special situations. >> >> Regards, >> Mark >> >>> On Sep 9, 2019, at 3:06 PM, André Rothe via Webobjects-dev >>> mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use "Round >>> Robin" for our application, but I asked myself, how I could implement a >>> custom scheduler for a specific problem (multiple instances of an >>> application, but some requests should always use a defined instance, all >>> all other requests should be redirected and balanced between the other >>> instances). Is there an interface, which my scheduler has to implement? >>> >>> Thank you >>> André >>> ___ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>> <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mark.morris%40experian.com >>> >>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mark.morris%40experian.com> >>> >>> This email sent to mark.mor...@experian.com >> >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >> <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/daniel.bietenbeck%40froebus.de >> >> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/daniel.bietenbeck%40froebus.de> >> >> This email sent to daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de >> <mailto:daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de> > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com > <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/michael%40aspireauctions.com > > <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/michael%40aspireauctions.com> > > This email sent to mich...@aspireauctions.com > <mailto:mich...@aspireauctions.com> ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: LoadBalancer
Hi there, small side question to the topic. Is there a good tutorial for upgrading an application from single instance to multi instance? common pitfalls etc.? Best regards, Daniel Bietenbeck Leiter IT ...fröbus Medien. Dienst. Leistung. Julius Fröbus GmbH • Schanzenstr. 6-20 • Werkstatt 1.09 • 51063 Köln • Deutschland Phone: +49 (0) 221 346 35 137 • Fax: +49 (0) 221 346 35 200 daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de <mailto:daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de> • www.froebus.de <http://www.froebus.de/> Geschäftsführung: Gerd Hecheltjen, Frank Bayerl Amtsgericht Köln • HRB 1118 • Finanzamt Brühl • UST-IdNr. DE 122788692 > Am 09.09.2019 um 23:48 schrieb Morris, Mark via Webobjects-dev > : > > Hi André, > > If in reality the situation is as simple as your example, perhaps you could > just create a separate single instance with a distinct name for your “defined > instance", and use that for requests that require it. We do something like > that for certain special situations. > > Regards, > Mark > >> On Sep 9, 2019, at 3:06 PM, André Rothe via Webobjects-dev >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use "Round Robin" >> for our application, but I asked myself, how I could implement a custom >> scheduler for a specific problem (multiple instances of an application, but >> some requests should always use a defined instance, all all other requests >> should be redirected and balanced between the other instances). Is there an >> interface, which my scheduler has to implement? >> >> Thank you >> André >> ___ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mark.morris%40experian.com >> >> This email sent to mark.mor...@experian.com > > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/daniel.bietenbeck%40froebus.de > > This email sent to daniel.bietenb...@froebus.de ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: LoadBalancer
Hi André, If in reality the situation is as simple as your example, perhaps you could just create a separate single instance with a distinct name for your “defined instance", and use that for requests that require it. We do something like that for certain special situations. Regards, Mark > On Sep 9, 2019, at 3:06 PM, André Rothe via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Hello, > > In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use "Round Robin" > for our application, but I asked myself, how I could implement a custom > scheduler for a specific problem (multiple instances of an application, but > some requests should always use a defined instance, all all other requests > should be redirected and balanced between the other instances). Is there an > interface, which my scheduler has to implement? > > Thank you > André > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mark.morris%40experian.com > > This email sent to mark.mor...@experian.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: LoadBalancer
I believe you could do something with Apache mod_proxy. Michael > On Sep 9, 2019, at 4:06 PM, André Rothe via Webobjects-dev > wrote: > > Hello, > > In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use "Round Robin" > for our application, but I asked myself, how I could implement a custom > scheduler for a specific problem (multiple instances of an application, but > some requests should always use a defined instance, all all other requests > should be redirected and balanced between the other instances). Is there an > interface, which my scheduler has to implement? > > Thank you > André > ___ > Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. > Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/michael%40aspireauctions.com > > This email sent to mich...@aspireauctions.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
LoadBalancer
Hello, In the JavaMonitor I found the LoadBalancer properties. We use "Round Robin" for our application, but I asked myself, how I could implement a custom scheduler for a specific problem (multiple instances of an application, but some requests should always use a defined instance, all all other requests should be redirected and balanced between the other instances). Is there an interface, which my scheduler has to implement? Thank you André ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
