OpenJDK, Java and Mac
Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
I made a quick test with OpenJDK 1.7 yesterday night, and the WO app was working fine. Will try to build Wonder with it this week. But I do saw problems with OpenJDK 1.6 for running the Atlassian products on our Linux box, I had to use Sun's JVM for that case. Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
Hi List, there is an online petition: Contribute the Apple JDK source to OpenJDK (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/macjdk). I don't think Apple will take any care, but a try won't harm. Stefan Am 25.10.10 20:49, schrieb Andrew Lindesay: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/stefan.klein%40buero-sde.de This email sent to stefan.kl...@buero-sde.de ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
On 2010-10-25, at 3:53 PM, Stefan Klein wrote: Hi List, there is an online petition: Contribute the Apple JDK source to OpenJDK (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/macjdk). I don't think Apple will take any care, but a try won't harm. Just be careful, if you sign in with twitter, petitionspot will spam your followers with tweets about he petition status. Disable their connection in your Twitter account prefs. Chuck, you can ignore this email. Stefan Am 25.10.10 20:49, schrieb Andrew Lindesay: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:59 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2010-10-25, at 3:53 PM, Stefan Klein wrote: Hi List, there is an online petition: Contribute the Apple JDK source to OpenJDK (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/macjdk). I don't think Apple will take any care, but a try won't harm. Just be careful, if you sign in with twitter, petitionspot will spam your followers with tweets about he petition status. Disable their connection in your Twitter account prefs. Chuck, you can ignore this email. Hey! I got me followers! I just don' have any tweets. I might be the most followed non-tweeter in the twitterverse. Chuck -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
Am 25.10.10 21:59, schrieb David LeBer: On 2010-10-25, at 3:53 PM, Stefan Klein wrote: Hi List, there is an online petition: Contribute the Apple JDK source to OpenJDK (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/macjdk). I don't think Apple will take any care, but a try won't harm. Just be careful, if you sign in with twitter, petitionspot will spam your followers with tweets about he petition status. Disable their connection in your Twitter account prefs. Oops, didn't know that. :-[ Chuck, you can ignore this email. Chuck is one step before me. :-D Stefan Am 25.10.10 20:49, schrieb Andrew Lindesay: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
another interesting (related) question: IIRC, the WO license requires you to develop on mac os. that's gonna be pretty difficult if there's no suitable JDK... ? On 25 October 2010 19:49, Andrew Lindesay a...@lindesay.co.nz wrote: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/simon%40potwells.co.uk This email sent to si...@potwells.co.uk ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Simon wrote: another interesting (related) question: IIRC, the WO license requires you to develop on mac os. No, it just requires you to develop on an Apple-branded computer. It doesn't say anything about what OS it must be running. But, if you're not going to be running Mac OS X, would you buy a Mac? I would, but I don't think you can use me as a representative of the dev community as a whole. Dave that's gonna be pretty difficult if there's no suitable JDK... ? On 25 October 2010 19:49, Andrew Lindesay a...@lindesay.co.nz wrote: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/simon%40potwells.co.uk This email sent to si...@potwells.co.uk ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
It only requires apple branded hardware. So we can always dump OS X for linux... Ramsey On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Simon wrote: another interesting (related) question: IIRC, the WO license requires you to develop on mac os. that's gonna be pretty difficult if there's no suitable JDK... ? On 25 October 2010 19:49, Andrew Lindesay a...@lindesay.co.nz wrote: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/simon%40potwells.co.uk This email sent to si...@potwells.co.uk ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ramsey%40xeotech.com This email sent to ram...@xeotech.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
With people like Google, Atlassian and Alfresco using a lot of OS X machines for Java devs, either people will bring OpenJDK up to speed or Oracle will release a JVM. Not counting Lotus Notes (IBM) who is a Eclipse RCP app since version 7. It only requires apple branded hardware. So we can always dump OS X for linux... Ramsey On Oct 25, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Simon wrote: another interesting (related) question: IIRC, the WO license requires you to develop on mac os. that's gonna be pretty difficult if there's no suitable JDK... ? On 25 October 2010 19:49, Andrew Lindesay a...@lindesay.co.nz wrote: Hello; Excuse my ignorance, but I'm trying to get a handle on the impact of using OpenJDK for WebObjects and other java dev going forward if there's no official JDK for MacOS-X. I understand that OpenJDK on MacOS-X uses X11 for GUI material (swing/AWT) which would seem tolerable, but are there other substantive differences with OpenJDK with respect to the official JDK for non GUI applications? cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/simon%40potwells.co.uk This email sent to si...@potwells.co.uk ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ramsey%40xeotech.com This email sent to ram...@xeotech.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
IIRC, the WO license requires you to develop on mac os. No, it just requires you to develop on an Apple-branded computer. It doesn't say anything about what OS it must be running. oh ok. hey - i just found a reason for those crappy white apple stickers that come with just about everything you buy from apple - whack one on the front of a shiny new Dell and you're good for WO development :-) Simon ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
On Oct 25, 2010, at 1:20 PM, David Avendasora wrote: I would, but I don't think you can use me as a representative of the dev community as a whole. Shudder. I'd hope not! :-P -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: OpenJDK, Java and Mac
On Oct 25, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:59 PM, David LeBer wrote: On 2010-10-25, at 3:53 PM, Stefan Klein wrote: Hi List, there is an online petition: Contribute the Apple JDK source to OpenJDK (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/macjdk). I don't think Apple will take any care, but a try won't harm. Just be careful, if you sign in with twitter, petitionspot will spam your followers with tweets about he petition status. Disable their connection in your Twitter account prefs. Chuck, you can ignore this email. Hey! I got me followers! I just don' have any tweets. I might be the most followed non-tweeter in the twitterverse. And now you've got one more! So c'mon, we're all waiting :) janine Chuck -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/janine%40furfly.net This email sent to jan...@furfly.net --- Janine Ohmer (formerly Sisk) President/CEO of furfly, LLC 503-693-6407 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
