Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Looks like I forgot two presentations:

• Persistent Session Storage 
• Security and performance designs for client-server communications

I'm adding them right now.

 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
   • COScheduler in Depth 
   • Apache FTP Server Integration 
   • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
   • Practical ERSync 
   • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
   • Dynamic Elements 
   • ERRest: The Basics 
   • ERRest: The Next Steps 
   • ERRest in Depth 
   • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in the 
 RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either become a 
 paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come to WOWODC 
 2013!
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Jesse Tayler

why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?

they should be published right away so people can use them.


On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
   • Persistent Session Storage 
   • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
  • COScheduler in Depth 
  • Apache FTP Server Integration 
  • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
  • Practical ERSync 
  • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
  • Dynamic Elements 
  • ERRest: The Basics 
  • ERRest: The Next Steps 
  • ERRest in Depth 
  • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
 become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come to 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread David LeBer
Jesse,

Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.

D

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On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:

 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
  • Persistent Session Storage 
  • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
 • COScheduler in Depth 
 • Apache FTP Server Integration 
 • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
 • Practical ERSync 
 • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
 • Dynamic Elements 
 • ERRest: The Basics 
 • ERRest: The Next Steps 
 • ERRest in Depth 
 • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
 become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Jesse Tayler

indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.

I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, 
however- 

I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 

since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
outsider's observation.


On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:

 Jesse,
 
 Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
 • Persistent Session Storage 
 • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
• COScheduler in Depth 
• Apache FTP Server Integration 
• CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
• Practical ERSync 
• WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
• Dynamic Elements 
• ERRest: The Basics 
• ERRest: The Next Steps 
• ERRest in Depth 
• D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert
 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.

And the hosting of WOCommunity.org and other things will magically be paid by 
magic? I had stopped working for ONE MONTH last year to work on my WOWODC 
presentations (and the organization, and editing the recordings) last year and 
I would have to pay for the WOCommunity hosting out of my pocket so that people 
who wants access to the content don't pay 50$ a year? Sorry, but no.

 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
 • Persistent Session Storage 
 • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
• COScheduler in Depth 
• Apache FTP Server Integration 
• CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
• Practical ERSync 
• WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
• Dynamic Elements 
• ERRest: The Basics 
• ERRest: The Next Steps 
• ERRest in Depth 
• D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread David LeBer
It's a tough decision.

Running the community is not free, there are cost involved and the only revenue 
we have it the memberships. Early access to the videos is a significant 
incentive to purchasing them.

The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on enlarging the community to 
any great degree. Certainly not to the point where risking the benefits that 
the WOCommunity org brings by sabotaging it's revenue stream makes any kind of 
sense.

Some videos are always released immediately after WOWODC for free, and 
community members are always welcome to create their own and post them anytime 
they want. 

The current rules still make sense to me.

D

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Codeferous Software

On 2013-05-02, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:

 
 indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.
 
 I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, 
 however- 
 
 I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 
 
 since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
 outsider's observation.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:
 
 Jesse,
 
 Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
• Persistent Session Storage 
• Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
   • COScheduler in Depth 
   • Apache FTP Server Integration 
   • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
   • Practical ERSync 
   • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
   • Dynamic Elements 
   • ERRest: The Basics 
   • ERRest: The Next Steps 
   • ERRest in Depth 
   • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Pascal Robert

Le 2013-05-02 à 10:57, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com a écrit :

 It's a tough decision.
 
 Running the community is not free, there are cost involved and the only 
 revenue we have it the memberships. Early access to the videos is a 
 significant incentive to purchasing them.
 
 The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on enlarging the community 
 to any great degree. Certainly not to the point where risking the benefits 
 that the WOCommunity org brings by sabotaging it's revenue stream makes any 
 kind of sense.
 
 Some videos are always released immediately after WOWODC for free, and 
 community members are always welcome to create their own and post them 
 anytime they want. 

And in the last two years, we also released the slides for all presentations a 
couple of days after the conference.

 
 The current rules still make sense to me.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-05-02, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 
 indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.
 
 I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the 
 event, however- 
 
 I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 
 
 since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
 outsider's observation.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:
 
 Jesse,
 
 Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
   • Persistent Session Storage 
   • Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
  • COScheduler in Depth 
  • Apache FTP Server Integration 
  • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
  • Practical ERSync 
  • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
  • Dynamic Elements 
  • ERRest: The Basics 
  • ERRest: The Next Steps 
  • ERRest in Depth 
  • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or 
 in the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick Abuzeni, MD
Jesse,
I am certain that no one, you included, would give out your code for free in 
the interest of growing your business. If that were true, I am sure this 
community and others would follow in those footsteps. I have full confidence in 
the community leaders that they know what they are doing. They distribute what 
they can for free, but there has to be a limit in order to cover basic overhead.

Patrick

On May 2, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:

 
 indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping things private has its place.
 
 I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as are my tickets to the event, 
 however- 
 
 I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow community myself, is all. 
 
 since I'm not in charge of the community, this is of course, just my casual 
 outsider's observation.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com wrote:
 
 Jesse,
 
 Members have full immediate access, and memberships are not expensive.
 
 D
 
 --
 David LeBer
 Codeferous Software
 
 On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com wrote:
 
 
 why are we keeping videos private until they are a year old?
 
 they should be published right away so people can use them.
 
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 
 Looks like I forgot two presentations:
 
• Persistent Session Storage 
• Security and performance designs for client-server communications
 
 I'm adding them right now.
 
 As we do every year just before the current WOWODC, we released the 
 recordings from the previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone. 
 Presentations:
 
   • COScheduler in Depth 
   • Apache FTP Server Integration 
   • CMS / Blog and SnoWOman 
   • Practical ERSync 
   • WebObjects Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
   • Dynamic Elements 
   • ERRest: The Basics 
   • ERRest: The Next Steps 
   • ERRest in Depth 
   • D2W Branding using jQuery ThemeRoller 
 
 Available at http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html or in 
 the RSS feed. If you wish to get the 2013 recordings in priority, either 
 become a paid member of the WOCommunity Association, or even better, come 
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Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available

2013-05-02 Thread Theodore Petrosky
And JMHO there is finally a core of Free videos that should get anyone started.

But I can say, that without them, I would have given up a long time ago. I 
still go back and re-watch them and realize that some problem I had was because 
I missed some very little comment from the presenter.



--- On Thu, 5/2/13, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 From: Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca
 Subject: Re: All WOWODC 2012 recordings now available
 To: David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com
 Cc: WebObjects Development webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
 Date: Thursday, May 2, 2013, 11:03 AM
 
 Le 2013-05-02 à 10:57, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com
 a écrit :
 
  It's a tough decision.
  
  Running the community is not free, there are cost
 involved and the only revenue we have it the memberships.
 Early access to the videos is a significant incentive to
 purchasing them.
  
  The pessimist in me says that the ship has sailed on
 enlarging the community to any great degree. Certainly not
 to the point where risking the benefits that the WOCommunity
 org brings by sabotaging it's revenue stream makes any kind
 of sense.
  
  Some videos are always released immediately after
 WOWODC for free, and community members are always welcome to
 create their own and post them anytime they want. 
 
 And in the last two years, we also released the slides for
 all presentations a couple of days after the conference.
 
  
  The current rules still make sense to me.
  
  D
  
  --
  David LeBer
  Codeferous Software
  
  On 2013-05-02, at 10:48 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com
 wrote:
  
  
  indeed, I can see they are valued and keeping
 things private has its place.
  
  I'm certain my membership is paid up to date, as
 are my tickets to the event, however- 
  
  I would not find that a neighborly thing to grow
 community myself, is all. 
  
  since I'm not in charge of the community, this is
 of course, just my casual outsider's observation.
  
  
  On May 2, 2013, at 10:40 AM, David LeBer dleber_wo...@codeferous.com
 wrote:
  
  Jesse,
  
  Members have full immediate access, and
 memberships are not expensive.
  
  D
  
  --
  David LeBer
  Codeferous Software
  
  On 2013-05-02, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Tayler jtay...@oeinc.com
 wrote:
  
  
  why are we keeping videos private until
 they are a year old?
  
  they should be published right away so
 people can use them.
  
  
  On May 2, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Pascal Robert
 prob...@macti.ca
 wrote:
  
  Looks like I forgot two presentations:
  
      • Persistent
 Session Storage 
      • Security and
 performance designs for client-server communications
  
  I'm adding them right now.
  
  As we do every year just before the
 current WOWODC, we released the recordings from the
 previous WOWODC to make them available to everyone.
 Presentations:
  
      • COScheduler
 in Depth 
      • Apache FTP
 Server Integration 
      • CMS / Blog
 and SnoWOman 
      • Practical
 ERSync 
      • WebObjects
 Optimization: EOF and Beyond 
      • Dynamic
 Elements 
      • ERRest: The
 Basics 
      • ERRest: The
 Next Steps 
      • ERRest in
 Depth 
      • D2W Branding
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