Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-06 Thread Kieran Kelleher


Regards, Kieran.
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On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Daniel Beatty  wrote:

> Greetings Kieran,
> Well this Gitolite sounds like an excellent tool.

It is. If I can fit it in I will cover gitolite at WOWODC since it is free and 
available to all. 



> Although, there are employers that have paranoia for a good reason.  

Their problem. Not mine ;-)

There are great "paid for" options like GitHub Enterprise too. 


> Some have been burned, others are paid to have this paranoia, and others just 
> simply work some national government.  Whatever the excuse is, there seems to 
> be cause for companies and countries to seriously look into how to manage GIT 
> repositories for their benefits and advantages over other repositories, 
> especially when the advantage applies.  I can't speak for my own government/ 
> employer on this, but there does seem to be a case here.
> 
> V/R,
> 
> 
> 
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> On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> 
>> Gitolite makes it easy to administer many repositories with less effort that 
>> just basic setup for a single repo. Also allows a basic level of control 
>> over what users can and cannot do on specific repositories. 
>> 
>> Regards, Kieran.
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Ted Archibald  wrote:
>> 
>>> What's the advantage gitolite offers?  I was reading up on it and I didn't 
>>> get.  What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running 
>>> git with ssh keys?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>>> I would add:
>>> 
>>>  stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash 
>>> your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to 
>>> the first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash.
>>> 
>>>  post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context)
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing 
>>> > back.  ;-)
>>> >
>>> > How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
>>> > employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
>>> > particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against 
>>> > it.
>>> 
>>> That will be tagging. We started adding "release numbers", as tags, in the 
>>> master branch of Wonder for this exact reason.
>>> 
>>> > For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
>>> > github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is 
>>> > free.  :-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the 
>>> >> "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the 
>>> >> git world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but 
>>> >> would definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
>>> >>
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Kieran,
Well this Gitolite sounds like an excellent tool.  Although, there are 
employers that have paranoia for a good reason.  Some have been burned, others 
are paid to have this paranoia, and others just simply work some national 
government.  Whatever the excuse is, there seems to be cause for companies and 
countries to seriously look into how to manage GIT repositories for their 
benefits and advantages over other repositories, especially when the advantage 
applies.  I can't speak for my own government/ employer on this, but there does 
seem to be a case here.

V/R,



Dan Beatty, ABD
Ph.D. Student 
Texas Tech University
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http://web.me.com/danielbeatty/My_Home_Page/Welcome.html
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On Apr 5, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

> Gitolite makes it easy to administer many repositories with less effort that 
> just basic setup for a single repo. Also allows a basic level of control over 
> what users can and cannot do on specific repositories. 
> 
> Regards, Kieran.
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
> 
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Ted Archibald  wrote:
> 
>> What's the advantage gitolite offers?  I was reading up on it and I didn't 
>> get.  What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running 
>> git with ssh keys?
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
>> I would add:
>> 
>>  stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash 
>> your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to 
>> the first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash.
>> 
>>  post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context)
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing 
>> > back.  ;-)
>> >
>> > How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
>> > employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
>> > particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against 
>> > it.
>> 
>> That will be tagging. We started adding "release numbers", as tags, in the 
>> master branch of Wonder for this exact reason.
>> 
>> > For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
>> > github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is 
>> > free.  :-)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>> >
>> >> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the 
>> >> "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git 
>> >> world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would 
>> >> definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
>> >>
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-06 Thread Johann Werner

Am 05.04.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Pascal Robert:

> Yup, gitolite is your friend.

Another alternative working really well is gitosis [1].


[1] https://github.com/tv42/gitosis

> 
>> Ricardo
>> 
>> I have setup my own (or I should say Pascal did) git repository on my own 
>> server.  Works really well.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Paul Yu
>> Sent with Sparrow
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>> On Thursday, April 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. 
>>> ;-)
>>> 
>>> How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
>>> employer's git repository... Or maybe the command for checking out a 
>>> particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
>>> github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is 
>>> free. :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>> 
 Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the 
 "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git 
 world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would 
 definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
 
 Feel free to respond to this email in public list or in private.
 
 Regards and thanks, Kieran



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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Gitolite makes it easy to administer many repositories with less effort that 
just basic setup for a single repo. Also allows a basic level of control over 
what users can and cannot do on specific repositories. 

Regards, Kieran.
(Sent from my iPhone)


On Apr 5, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Ted Archibald  wrote:

> What's the advantage gitolite offers?  I was reading up on it and I didn't 
> get.  What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running 
> git with ssh keys?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
> I would add:
> 
>  stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash 
> your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to 
> the first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash.
> 
>  post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context)
> 
> >
> >
> > Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. 
> >  ;-)
> >
> > How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
> > employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
> > particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against 
> > it.
> 
> That will be tagging. We started adding "release numbers", as tags, in the 
> master branch of Wonder for this exact reason.
> 
> > For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
> > github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is 
> > free.  :-)
> >
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> >
> >> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the 
> >> "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git 
> >> world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would 
> >> definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
> >>
> >> Feel free to respond to this email in public list or in private.
> >>
> >> Regards and thanks, Kieran
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Kieran Kelleher

On Apr 5, 2012, at 2:38 PM, "Ricardo J. Parada"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back.  
> ;-)
> 
> How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
> employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
> particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against it.
> 
> For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
> github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server
Yes :)


> and that is free.  :-)
Yes :)



> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> 
>> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the "Using 
>> Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git world? I 
>> have already done an outline of my session content, but would definitely try 
>> to accommodate any requests also.
>> 
>> Feel free to respond to this email in public list or in private.
>> 
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
Gitolite users are "virtual" users and virtual permissions, so no need to give 
them SSH access to the box.

> What's the advantage gitolite offers?  I was reading up on it and I didn't 
> get.  What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running 
> git with ssh keys?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:
> I would add:
> 
>  stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash 
> your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to 
> the first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash.
> 
>  post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context)
> 
> >
> >
> > Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. 
> >  ;-)
> >
> > How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
> > employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
> > particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against 
> > it.
> 
> That will be tagging. We started adding "release numbers", as tags, in the 
> master branch of Wonder for this exact reason.
> 
> > For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
> > github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is 
> > free.  :-)
> >
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> >
> >> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the 
> >> "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git 
> >> world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would 
> >> definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
> >>
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> >>
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Ted Archibald
What's the advantage gitolite offers?  I was reading up on it and I didn't
get.  What's the difference between a git server VS a computer just running
git with ssh keys?

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Pascal Robert  wrote:

> I would add:
>
>  stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash
> your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to
> the first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash.
>
>  post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context)
>
> >
> >
> > Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing
> back.  ;-)
> >
> > How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our
> employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a
> particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against
> it.
>
> That will be tagging. We started adding "release numbers", as tags, in the
> master branch of Wonder for this exact reason.
>
> > For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e.
> github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is
> free.  :-)
> >
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> >
> >> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the
> "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git
> world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would
> definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
> >>
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> >>
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
I would add:

  stashes : damn useful to try options without committing it. You can stash 
your tests, try something else, stash that something else, and get back to the 
first stash if you didn't like your work on the second stash.

  post commit hooks (never tried those except in a GitHub context)

> 
> 
> Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back.  
> ;-)
> 
> How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
> employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
> particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against it.

That will be tagging. We started adding "release numbers", as tags, in the 
master branch of Wonder for this exact reason.

> For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
> github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is free. 
>  :-)
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> 
>> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the "Using 
>> Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git world? I 
>> have already done an outline of my session content, but would definitely try 
>> to accommodate any requests also.
>> 
>> Feel free to respond to this email in public list or in private.
>> 
>> Regards and thanks, Kieran
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Pascal Robert
Yup, gitolite is your friend.

> Ricardo
> 
> I have setup my own (or I should say Pascal did) git repository on my own 
> server.  Works really well.
> 
> -- 
> Paul Yu
> Sent with Sparrow
> 
> On Thursday, April 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
>> employer's git repository... Or maybe the command for checking out a 
>> particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against it.
>> 
>> For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
>> github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is 
>> free. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>> 
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Paul Yu
Ricardo 

I have setup my own (or I should say Pascal did) git repository on my own 
server.  Works really well. 

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On Thursday, April 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

> 
> 
> Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back. 
> ;-)
> 
> How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
> employer's git repository... Or maybe the command for checking out a 
> particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against it.
> 
> For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. 
> github or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is free. 
> :-)
> 
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> On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
> 
> > Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the 
> > "Using Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git 
> > world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would 
> > definitely try to accommodate any requests also.
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-05 Thread Ricardo J. Parada


Basic / typical commands for forking wonder, cloning it, contributing back.  ;-)

How about the equivalent of svn:externals to integrate Wonder into our 
employer's git repository...  Or maybe the command for checking out a 
particular version of Wonder in time for building our apps and qa against it.

For people whose employer won't put their repository in the public (i.e. github 
or whatever), is there an easy way to setup a server and that is free.  :-)


On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

> Following Chuck's lead  what would you like to get out of the "Using 
> Git" session . what are the problems you are facing in the git world? I 
> have already done an outline of my session content, but would definitely try 
> to accommodate any requests also.
> 
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-03 Thread Ted Archibald
Since I just switched over, I'd be curious to know which is better:
multiple large repositories with many projects (ala Wonder) or an
individual repository for each project.  When I converted over from svn I
went with the former than the latter, and it seems fine.

Different workflows, what you do for your own projects, what you do with
Wonder etc.  E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYnOwPl8yCE and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7r2X9qC8jo

Now that I'm switched over to git I'm excited about being able to go off on
wild tangents with branches then merging them back in without leaving
projects in bizzaro limbo.  Any tips or tricks on this topic?

What are submodules and their use?  I haven't a clue.

Perhaps an overview of some of the GUIs out there (i.e. use this, don't use
this).

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:56 PM, David Holt  wrote:

> Best practices for setting up repositories. One project per? All projects
> in one?
> Dealing with forks and making pull requests to Wonder
> Jenkins :-)
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 2012-04-03, at 3:39 PM, Kieran Kelleher  wrote:
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> world? I have already done an outline of my session content, but would
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Re: Using Git WOWODC 2012 Session

2012-04-03 Thread David Holt
Best practices for setting up repositories. One project per? All projects in 
one? 
Dealing with forks and making pull requests to Wonder
Jenkins :-)

Sent from my iPad

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