Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread Larry Mills-Gahl
Another vote for HAPI. 
I've got some custom code consuming HL7 from the time before HAPI (also known 
as the un-HAPI time ... well, ok, it's only know as that to me ... and really 
only in this message I suppose) but I've been looking at a recent integration 
path with Camel and their (relatively) new HL7 component. 
http://camel.apache.org/hl7.html that wraps the HAPI library in a Camel 
component for use in building integration routes.
This doesn't relieve you of having to interpret the message yourself, but it 
may be a way to proxy the receipt of HL7 messages (through any number of entry 
points) and access services that are not directly coupled with the mechanism 
for consuming or producing HL7 messages.


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Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread Michael Schmiedgen

Hi Calven,


Anyone worked with HL7?  Any advice using it with Webobjects?


I use HAPI, that was mentioned in another post above. I use it
stand alone, without WO. It is a nice API and should integrate
well into other environments.

Cheers,
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Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread David Aspinall
I've been doing some HL7 work on iOS and although I have nothing specific for 
WebObjects, here are some comments and resources you might find helpful.

- welcome to ACRONYM HELL   If you thought programmers were bad for their own 
terminology, you have not seen anything.  Health Informatics (HI) is absolutely 
awash in crazy terminology.  You may want to start a personal reference doc to 
stick definitions and notes.

- the HL7 v3 standard is a large rambling mess (IMO) and many node definitions 
can conflict with others within the same document!  For example, it is possible 
to have a node like  defined several times within the same document, 
but with different structure. Or it can have the same concept like person but 
create nodes named   ...  each can have different 
structures.

- HL7 v2 is NOT XML.  This is important because the majority of existing 
systems are v2.  Even the newer variations like CDA or XDS often have HL7 v2 
content embedded as values.  Here is an example









- you will also need to understand the code systems and terminology.  For 
example




this is the patient identifier.  The root attribute identified the 
source and the extension identifies the value.  You need to be able to 
distinguish between a root that represents a Drivers License, vs a Hospital vs 
an Insurance Carrier vs a Provincial Health Service   or this






So what is this related document?  Thats easy :)

2.16.840.1.113883.6.1 = LOINC  (Logical Observation Identifier Names 
and Code)
34140-4 = Referral

No problem .. right.  Its the referral request.

My suggestion is to stay VERY tightly focused on only the messages you must 
support, and initially only on the PORTION of the message that you need.

Useful links

HL7.org

You might as well be confused by the vary source of the crazy :)
http://www.hl7.org/index.cfm

Terminology References

SNOMED-CT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNOMED_CT
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/Snomed/snomed_main.html
http://www.ihtsdo.org/snomed-ct/

Mohawk College

http://www.mohawkcollege.ca/about/research/marc.html
MARC-HI Everest Framework (Java reference framework HL7 v3)

http://te.marc-hi.ca/view.aspx?project=af66d54ed41e4ac18b44d0d3ca6cabf0

The OpenHealth Foundation

http://www.openehealth.org/display/OEHF/Foundation
Java IPF  (Integration Platform Framework)
https://github.com/krasserm/ipf

Learn the RIM (Reference Information Model)

The RIM is the base building block for all the subsequent XML 
structures.  It's nasty :)


http://motorcycleguy.blogspot.ca/2010/04/quick-overview-of-ebxml-rim-objects-in.html
https://tl7.intelliware.ca/public/messages/dataTypes/index.faces

HAPI (v2 HL7 only)

Opensource HL7 parser and Library, but as far as I know it is HL7 v2 
ONLY
http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/


Test Level 7

This is the only test site for HL7 v3 I have found.  It is not cheap 
but the initial client registry search is free.   Sorry, client registry may 
not be correct terminology, the correct name is Find candidates query and the 
HL7 message is PRPA_IN101103CA and the response is PRPA_IN101104CA

https://tl7.intelliware.ca/index.faces
http://i-proving.com/2010/12/13/hl7-message-processing-statistics/

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On 2012-06-07, at 9:35 AM, Paul Yu wrote:

> If HL7 is a markup language like HTML, XML, and others, than I would think 
> using WO to create HL7 could just be putting the markup in the WO .html file 
> and the generating the response as NSData and send it.
> 
> Parsing HL7 would be you would take their HL7 java library and link it in and 
> parse the HL7 documents that you receive with it.
> 
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> On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:
> 
>> I will be doing two things:
>> 
>> 1) receiving HL7 messages and parsing the data
>> 2) creating and sending HL7 messages
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-06-07, at 9:30 AM, Paul Yu wrote:
>> 
>>> What are you trying to do with HL7? 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Paul Yu
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>>> On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:
>>> 
 Good morning,
 
 Anyone worked with HL7? Any advice using it with Webobjects?
 
 Calven
 
 
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Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread JR Ruggentaler
For parsing HL7 in my WO app I use HAPI<http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/>. You 
can send and receive the HL7 messages from a direct action. The MSH segment 
field 5 (MSH-5) is usually used for identifying the source/security. Depending 
on the source of the HL7 data you may need a "message router/proxy" to forward 
the messages to your WO app if the source system(s) uses a different transport 
like TCP/IP sockets, SFTP,…

JR

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Date: Thursday, June 7, 2012 8:35 AM
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Cc: "webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com<mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>" 
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Subject: Re: WO & HL7

If HL7 is a markup language like HTML, XML, and others, than I would think 
using WO to create HL7 could just be putting the markup in the WO .html file 
and the generating the response as NSData and send it.

Parsing HL7 would be you would take their HL7 java library and link it in and 
parse the HL7 documents that you receive with it.

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On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:

I will be doing two things:

1) receiving HL7 messages and parsing the data
2) creating and sending HL7 messages


On 2012-06-07, at 9:30 AM, Paul Yu wrote:

What are you trying to do with HL7?

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On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:

Good morning,

Anyone worked with HL7? Any advice using it with Webobjects?

Calven


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Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread Paul Yu
If HL7 is a markup language like HTML, XML, and others, than I would think 
using WO to create HL7 could just be putting the markup in the WO .html file 
and the generating the response as NSData and send it.

Parsing HL7 would be you would take their HL7 java library and link it in and 
parse the HL7 documents that you receive with it. 

-- 
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On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:

> I will be doing two things:
> 
> 1) receiving HL7 messages and parsing the data
> 2) creating and sending HL7 messages
> 
> 
> On 2012-06-07, at 9:30 AM, Paul Yu wrote:
> > What are you trying to do with HL7?  
> > 
> > -- 
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> > On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:
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> > > Good morning,
> > > 
> > > Anyone worked with HL7? Any advice using it with Webobjects?
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Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread Calven Eggert
I will be doing two things:

1) receiving HL7 messages and parsing the data
2) creating and sending HL7 messages


On 2012-06-07, at 9:30 AM, Paul Yu wrote:

> What are you trying to do with HL7? 
> 
> -- 
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> On Thursday, June 7, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Calven Eggert wrote:
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>> Good morning,
>> 
>> Anyone worked with HL7? Any advice using it with Webobjects?
>> 
>> Calven
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Re: WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread Paul Yu
What are you trying to do with HL7?  

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WO & HL7

2012-06-07 Thread Calven Eggert
Good morning,

Anyone worked with HL7?  Any advice using it with Webobjects?

Calven


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