Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread sophie

Hi Christoph,
On 15/01/2011 00:55, Christoph Noack wrote:
[...]


@ Sophie, you mentioned the "colored icons" - does this refer to the
MIME type icons? If yes, then I'm unsure whether we should highlight
that if we ship the old icons (Sun S-curve branding, OOo branding
colors, seagulls).
Currently, Picasa has a nice web album containing colored icons ;-) I 
think FR members are following the progression of the MIME type icons 
the design team is working on here:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons
Won't they be incorporated in the final version?

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] "LibreOffice Download" Search Results

2011-01-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

I tried implementing your suggested solution, but it did not work out
with the current server configuration... Florian would have to take
action...

David Nelson

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [UX] LibreOffice menu navigation issue

2011-01-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi Christoph, :-)

Well, this is a something I'll leave for Ivan to answer... By the way,
did someone tell Ivan he became part of the website management team?
:-D

The current functioning of the menu *seems* fairly rational to me... I
can't personally think of another manner in which it should operate,
and I can't think of how to implement another behavior...

But I think we could probably talk about some of these issues more
effectively during a confcall between the four of us (Ivan, Christian,
you and me). If we hold one of these once a week for the next 3 or 4
weeks, I think we will be able to iron out problems like this one more
effectively What do you think? Me, I'm willing to be available on
the time and date of your choice.

Can we maybe set this up to happen in the next few days?

David Nelson

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[libreoffice-website] [UX] LibreOffice menu navigation issue

2011-01-14 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi David, hi website team!

Today, I had a quick look at the new website ... and most of the stuff
is just great. But, I discovered an issue that I consider as "major",
and I'd like to make you aware of that (if you aren't already).

It seems that the site menu items that "group" (e.g. Features) also
serve as links for dedicated pages. UX wise, this is a problem when
navigating the pages.

Example:
  * Go to http:/www.libreoffice.org
  * Click on "Features" --> category is active, no sub-category is
active (strange)
  * Click on "Writer" --> category is active, sub-category is active
(okay)
  * Click on "Features" --> although already active, the page
changes to something different (back to Features, not okay)

Especially when people arrive on any page (e.g. via Web Search), the
current behavior unpredictable. For example, people arrive on the page
"Downloading instructions" will have to fiddle around to find the real
Download page - because the menu just seems to work like other pages
(Download is already active, so no additional "hidden" page).

Consequently, clicking on a group like "Features" activates "Features"
and activates the first item in the sub-menu.

Sorry to bother you, but I consider this pretty important, since I
really want to avoid that this is replicated by all the l10n pages ...

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-website] National domains

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Leif,

leif wrote on 2011-01-14 21.38:

www.libreoffice.dk  is redirected now.

Could you point it to da.libreoffice.org - please?


can you use our DNS servers for the domain, would that be possible?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Bernhard, all!

Am Freitag, den 14.01.2011, 20:02 +0100 schrieb Dr. Bernhard Dippold:
[...]
> We will have to provide such badges/buttons that show their support for 
> LibreOffice.
> The badges might contain the official logo if it is clear that this doesn't 
> mean they 
> want to be considered as official partners or spokespeople for LibreOffice.
> 
> This is one of the tasks for the design team once we finished the MimeType 
> icon work.

Sounds great!

> > Maybe something like this (Works on darker backgrounds, not so well on 
> > white):
> > 
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DEiZb4Onok5V78oNMZAAmw?feat=directlink
> 
> Please keep in mind the branding guideline [1]: Logo and symbol need much 
> more 
> whitespace around them.

Mmh, I thought a bit about that. The "badge" itself is usually separated
on pages having some own "margin" to other elements. Maybe we can reduce
the margins within the badge to efficiently use the space ... but in
this case, the borders and the background need to be (nearly) equally
colored.

Is that something that might work (asking you without providing a
demo-badge, sigh)?

Cheers,
Christoph


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Christoph Noack
(CCing to design team to catch their attention ...)

Hi Michael, David, all!

great suggestion. It seems it pays off to bore you with all this UX
related stuff ;-))) And David, thanks for jumping in so quickly!

@ Sophie, Marc: I'll also refer to your posts, since it seems to make to
keep this information in one mail. So sorry for mis-threading in
advance ;-)

Am Freitag, den 14.01.2011, 22:43 +0800 schrieb David Nelson:
> Hi Michael, :-)
> 
> Thanks for these good ideas. Sure we can implement your suggestions.
> 
> If you want to help out with screenshots, that's fine, too. I've done
> all screenshots under Ubuntu using the Ambiance theme, window only,
> with window sized to 1000x750.
> 
> You can supply me with that shot and I'll do the rest (I produce a
> downsize at 800x600 in png using Gimp, and then another png at 400x300
> using Photoshop. Empirically, that seems to produce the best quality.
> 
> IMHO, it would be best to keep all the screenshots to this "uniform format".

Of course! And since you refer to "empirically", that's a great example
to document it in our upcoming wiki page (screenshot requirements).
Then, all the l10n teams can benefit. Although we should think about how
to do this with open-source tools (e.g. an image-magic script which can
be written?)

Since I've looked at the screenshots on the front page, I'd like to say
that the documents look that much (much!) better than before ... also
the Start Center (btw. not QuickStarter) looks better with some more
space around (the first picture).

But, only one picture doesn't fit that good - from the marketing's
perspective. Since we try to establish "our" branding, the following
picture is (although colorful) misleading how "we" look when installed.
It might be mis-interpreted as Splashscreen [0], so you mind to remove
it? Sorry to bother you with that :-\

If we finally have some time to take a deep breath (a few weeks maybe?),
I'd like to discuss the chosen theme. It seems a bit different to those
that are "default", and (although it looks great on the computer), the
dark title bars are a bit "visually heavy" and don't match to the
LibreOffice branding (draft) [1].

> Apart from that, we can format the layout the way you want it
> (preferably without breaking out of the theme styles).

See below, please ...

[...]
> > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.3/index.html
> >
> >I must confess I prefer the latter :-(

I put up a small graphic to show how a structure might look like - would
be great if Ivan could have a look at that, too. I think a subtle border
(gray) would help to overcome screenshot snippets problems.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/O-PELAb4LD61S9RPTFIW8Q?feat=directlink

Don't be scared by the colors, this is what we (UX people) use to
highlight elements within other pictures or draw structures. Of course,
the color theme of the website applies here.

@ Michael: The OOo features page seems a bit messy, since the pictures
have different width - there is no harmony. Moreover, the whole page
looks like to win the "most headers" award ;-)

David, might the structure above work with the site?

> >eg. I love the work the l10n team does; it is a vital part of what we
> > do - but it is also something that people take for granted as in "it
> > should just work in my language" - ie. they get upset only if it is not
> > there ;-)
> >
> >Would it be possible to move that to the bottom ?

I had a look at the page, and most probably we still miss a lot of users
and their interests (the very first item is "Load and Save ODF documents
in flat XML to make external XSLT processing easier"). This is
important, but for (business process) IT integration ... Also adding our
color palette is a minor improvement for the majority (literally nobody
will ever discover it, given our current palette management).

Also Marc and Sophie added very important thoughts ... and all are right
at the same time (from an UX perspective, but looking from different
user's point-of-views).

So here is my initial "flat list" proposal how the page can be
structured:
  * All Applications --> Major improvements shared by all
applications
  * Writer (Word Processor)
  * Calc (Spreadsheet)
  * Impress (Presentation)
  * Draw (Vector Graphics)
  * Base (Database)
  * Math (Formula Editor)
  * Internationalization
  * Developer Features and Extensibility
  * More Improvements

All but the last category should only present a few improvements to
avoid boring people to death ;-) Pre-prioritizing helps them to quickly
decide "yes, that's worth to download". Let's say 3 ... 5 items per
category like Writer. And, one highlight item (e.g. "More familiar
keyboard shortcuts") might sum up some individual features (by the way,
more familiar to whom ...).

But since we also have people who want to deep-dive, there should be a
list of "small but important" items (More Improvements). Here, single

[libreoffice-website] National domains

2011-01-14 Thread leif
Hi,
www.libreoffice.dk is redirected now.

Could you point it to da.libreoffice.org - please?



Cheers,
Leif

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi Michael, all

Michael Wheatland wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
>  wrote:
> > Hi Michael, *,
> > Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
> >>
> >> I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
> >> put on blogs or profiles.
> >> This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of
> >> messages.

We will have to provide such badges/buttons that show their support for 
LibreOffice.
The badges might contain the official logo if it is clear that this doesn't 
mean they 
want to be considered as official partners or spokespeople for LibreOffice.

This is one of the tasks for the design team once we finished the MimeType icon 
work.
> 
> Maybe something like this (Works on darker backgrounds, not so well on white):
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DEiZb4Onok5V78oNMZAAmw?feat=directlink

Please keep in mind the branding guideline [1]: Logo and symbol need much more 
whitespace around them.

Best regards

Bernhard

[1]: 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices




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[libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-14 12:53, Michael Wheatland a écrit :

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13



Thanks Michael.

I would also like to express my sadness over this decision as many 
members of the LibreOffice community had expressed their willingness and 
ability to help out with a Drupal LibreOffice site. There is an obvious 
well talented and enabled group amongst us who could have had a large 
impact cooperating on such a site.


I would personally like to thank Michael who has spent many a great 
hours working feverishly on the site and also for his lead on the Drupal 
project and hope that he will still be one who is around to help out and 
to comment on the projects activities as well as adding his invaluable 
advice site building.


Thank you as well for leaving the site up temporarily for us to compare 
and to measure.


See you on the threads.

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] MathJax extension on the wiki

2011-01-14 Thread Stanislas Garret

Le 03/01/2011 18:30, Sophie Gautier a écrit :

Hi all,

We (FR team) are porting some documentations from the OOo wiki to the LibO wiki. We encounter an issue with the  tag used 
to write/display the formulas, like this

{a}^{2}+{b}^{2}\mathrm{=}{c}^{2}
It seems it's an extension to the wiki that render this display, the MathJax 
extension (thanks to Stanislas for the info).
Would it be possible to add this extension to the wiki ?
Thanks in advance
Kind regards
Sophie


Just a remember, as you both Florian & Manuel has been working on the search 
extension ...

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-01-13

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-14 12:26, Michael Wheatland a écrit :

For those who may not be aware the following statement was made by the
Steering Committee:

"At the moment we work with Silverstripe for our production website
and efforts should be focused on it. We may reconsider this, but all
decisions regarding Drupal will be delayed for at least 6 months. The
discussion about implementing Drupal must not hinder the work on our
current production website."

Although I am personally disappointed by this decision, as I can see
there has been so much collaboration and progress towards a set of
powerful and inclusive community infrastructure tools with the Drupal
sub project, I feel it is important to thank those who have put in so
much effort to date.

It has become clear that the community building direction is not as
extroverted as I once thought, and I am immensely saddened by this, as
I was under the impression that the community would embrace cutting
edge, community building ideas readily.
As I have been putting almost all of my time into the LibreOffice
Drupal development, and the implication of the SC statement that this
amazing work by a great group of people has been in vein, I will be
taking a break from the project for a period to allow myself to
re-focus.

I do not believe that the SC decision is a bad decision, it is simply
very different to the approach I would have taken considering the
number, willingness and ambition of members working on this project.
Can I encourage the people who have been working on the Drupal
development to start looking at Silverstripe as the dictated path
forward and contribute to it as you have been with the Drupal
development.

Again, I thank all of those members who have contributed so much under
the premise of serious review.

The development site will remain online at
www.libreofficeaustralia.com however it is likely that I will make the
site read only until we determine the path forward for this
development.
So... The question is, where to now for the Drupal development?

Michael Wheatland



Hi Michael

Where did this statement come from?

Marc


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[libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys,

On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 22:43 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
> Thanks for these good ideas. Sure we can implement your suggestions.

Just an update, I comprehensively re-hashed the content on the new
features page; hopefully it is more accurate, complete and accessible to
the average reader (though, I suspect there is still a way to go there).

David asked to add comments saying what screenshots / demo document
links might look good, under each section, hopefully they'll disappear
over the next days to be replaced with something beautiful.

HTH,

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[libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
For those who may not be aware the following statement was made by the
Steering Committee:

"At the moment we work with Silverstripe for our production website
and efforts should be focused on it. We may reconsider this, but all
decisions regarding Drupal will be delayed for at least 6 months. The
discussion about implementing Drupal must not hinder the work on our
current production website."

Although I am personally disappointed by this decision, as I can see
there has been so much collaboration and progress towards a set of
powerful and inclusive community infrastructure tools with the Drupal
sub project, I feel it is important to thank those who have put in so
much effort to date.

It has become clear that the community building direction is not as
extroverted as I once thought, and I am immensely saddened by this, as
I was under the impression that the community would embrace cutting
edge, community building ideas readily.
As I have been putting almost all of my time into the LibreOffice
Drupal development, and the implication of the SC statement that this
amazing work by a great group of people has been in vein, I will be
taking a break from the project for a period to allow myself to
re-focus.

I do not believe that the SC decision is a bad decision, it is simply
very different to the approach I would have taken considering the
number, willingness and ambition of members working on this project.
Can I encourage the people who have been working on the Drupal
development to start looking at Silverstripe as the dictated path
forward and contribute to it as you have been with the Drupal
development.

Again, I thank all of those members who have contributed so much under
the premise of serious review.

The development site will remain online at
www.libreofficeaustralia.com however it is likely that I will make the
site read only until we determine the path forward for this
development.
So... The question is, where to now for the Drupal development?

Michael Wheatland

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi,

Le Sat, 15 Jan 2011 01:21:20 +0930,
Michael Wheatland  a écrit :

> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
>  wrote:
> > Le Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:06:10 +0100,
> > klaus-jürgen weghorn ol  a écrit :
> >
> >> Hi Michael, *,
> >> Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
> >> >
> >> > I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people
> >> > to put on blogs or profiles.
> >> > This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of
> >> > messages.
> >> >
> >> > What do people think?
> >> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >
> > +1 indeed. And one official logo for LibreOffice Volunteers :-)
> 
> Great idea. That would be a real badge of honour.
> 
> Should we be adding these to the marketing/ideas page and getting the
> design team in on this?
> 

Yes. Also something of importance: we do as well need badges/banners for
everyone (literally everyone) with something like "FAN of LibreOffice"
with a distinctive (or somewhat different) logo and no Document
Foundation written on it. Something for people to put on blogs,
gravatars, pics, facebook, tweet profile pictures...


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Marc, Michael,
On 14/01/2011 18:54, Michael Wheatland wrote:
[...]



If I were new to LibreOffice and dropped by this section, I would think
automatically of "New Features" compared to what? Was there a previous
version?

Perhaps this section should be re-titled to "Highlighted Features" (or
something like that). I still favour not comparing ourselves to OOo. IMO, we
should forge our own path and let other distro's try to keep pace with us.
At this point, we have the momentum, the interested community contributors,
and talented devs. Other distros should be comparing themselves to us. I
think this would be a better attitude to have.

As far as marketing, sure, we may compare ourselves to other distros, OOo
and MSO. This, IMO, would be better made on a page with a grid with
checkmarks as to what we offer compared to the other distros. We could
reference this page back to the "Highlighted Features" page.

Just my opinion.

Cheers

Marc


I agree with this concern. Yes we are using code from OpenOffice,
BrOffice and OOGo among others, but LibreOffice is a 'new product',
there has been no LibreOffice products before this one, hence we
actually don't have 'new features' just features which make
LibreOffice stand out from the crowd of Office suites.


In fact what you and Marc says is not completely true.
We are also aiming to get our OOo users to migrate to LibO, and also 
those who were currently studying their migration to OOo. Some of them 
have shown there support and remember that TDF is the continuity, not a 
breakage.
Migrating to OOo takes a long time, qualifying the version sometime take 
one year to a company, several of them where on there way to finalize 
there study because it was the right time (Windows Vista/7, new UI and 
file format in 2010, the wave of OS in Europe, etc).


So highlighting the LibO specificities is good but should also ensure 
the decision makers that we are on the same path and there will be no 
learning curve necessary to use LibO instead of OOo, only some wanted 
features (like the new shortcuts in Calc or the Form menu entry).


So you are right that New Features is not the right term, may be 
Highlighted Features, like Marc was suggesting is much better.


As a side note, concerning BrOffice, this is only the branding that is 
different because of a trademark issue, and a small amount of Go-oo 
features have been incorporated for now. More will come later, once our 
users base is consolidated.


Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> Le 2011-01-14 09:43, David Nelson a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Michael, :-)
>>
>> Thanks for these good ideas. Sure we can implement your suggestions.
>>
>> If you want to help out with screenshots, that's fine, too. I've done
>> all screenshots under Ubuntu using the Ambiance theme, window only,
>> with window sized to 1000x750.
>>
>> You can supply me with that shot and I'll do the rest (I produce a
>> downsize at 800x600 in png using Gimp, and then another png at 400x300
>> using Photoshop. Empirically, that seems to produce the best quality.
>>
>> IMHO, it would be best to keep all the screenshots to this "uniform
>> format".
>>
>> Apart from that, we can format the layout the way you want it
>> (preferably without breaking out of the theme styles).
>>
>> It would be great if we can work on this together, so that we get the
>> result you want.
>>
>> David Nelson
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 22:16, Michael Meeks
>>  wrote:
>>
>
> If I were new to LibreOffice and dropped by this section, I would think
> automatically of "New Features" compared to what? Was there a previous
> version?
>
> Perhaps this section should be re-titled to "Highlighted Features" (or
> something like that). I still favour not comparing ourselves to OOo. IMO, we
> should forge our own path and let other distro's try to keep pace with us.
> At this point, we have the momentum, the interested community contributors,
> and talented devs. Other distros should be comparing themselves to us. I
> think this would be a better attitude to have.
>
> As far as marketing, sure, we may compare ourselves to other distros, OOo
> and MSO. This, IMO, would be better made on a page with a grid with
> checkmarks as to what we offer compared to the other distros. We could
> reference this page back to the "Highlighted Features" page.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marc

I agree with this concern. Yes we are using code from OpenOffice,
BrOffice and OOGo among others, but LibreOffice is a 'new product',
there has been no LibreOffice products before this one, hence we
actually don't have 'new features' just features which make
LibreOffice stand out from the crowd of Office suites.

Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
 wrote:
> Le Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:06:10 +0100,
> klaus-jürgen weghorn ol  a écrit :
>
>> Hi Michael, *,
>> Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
>> >
>> > I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
>> > put on blogs or profiles.
>> > This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of
>> > messages.
>> >
>> > What do people think?
>> >
>> +1
>>
>
> +1 indeed. And one official logo for LibreOffice Volunteers :-)

Great idea. That would be a real badge of honour.

Should we be adding these to the marketing/ideas page and getting the
design team in on this?

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[libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-14 09:43, David Nelson a écrit :

Hi Michael, :-)

Thanks for these good ideas. Sure we can implement your suggestions.

If you want to help out with screenshots, that's fine, too. I've done
all screenshots under Ubuntu using the Ambiance theme, window only,
with window sized to 1000x750.

You can supply me with that shot and I'll do the rest (I produce a
downsize at 800x600 in png using Gimp, and then another png at 400x300
using Photoshop. Empirically, that seems to produce the best quality.

IMHO, it would be best to keep all the screenshots to this "uniform format".

Apart from that, we can format the layout the way you want it
(preferably without breaking out of the theme styles).

It would be great if we can work on this together, so that we get the
result you want.

David Nelson

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 22:16, Michael Meeks  wrote:



If I were new to LibreOffice and dropped by this section, I would think 
automatically of "New Features" compared to what? Was there a previous 
version?


Perhaps this section should be re-titled to "Highlighted Features" (or 
something like that). I still favour not comparing ourselves to OOo. 
IMO, we should forge our own path and let other distro's try to keep 
pace with us. At this point, we have the momentum, the interested 
community contributors, and talented devs. Other distros should be 
comparing themselves to us. I think this would be a better attitude to have.


As far as marketing, sure, we may compare ourselves to other distros, 
OOo and MSO. This, IMO, would be better made on a page with a grid with 
checkmarks as to what we offer compared to the other distros. We could 
reference this page back to the "Highlighted Features" page.


Just my opinion.

Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-website] "LibreOffice Download" Search Results

2011-01-14 Thread Samuel Gómez
(sorry I deleted the original thread from my inbox and did not know
how to continue it)

Just wanted to add that at
http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/
I've seen this client side redirection:
meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://www.libreoffice.org/download/";

As far as I know, Google does not interpret client-side redirections
(html, javascript, ...) but only server-side redirections.

A way to achieve the same redirection but server-side with PHP[1] is:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/', true, 301);
?>

Another way to do the same is placing the redirection in Apache's
.htaccess[2]. I guess it would be:
RedirectPermanent /download http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Regards.

[1] http://es2.php.net/manual/en/function.header.php
[2] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#redirectpermanent

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[libreoffice-website] Re: new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi Michael, :-)

Thanks for these good ideas. Sure we can implement your suggestions.

If you want to help out with screenshots, that's fine, too. I've done
all screenshots under Ubuntu using the Ambiance theme, window only,
with window sized to 1000x750.

You can supply me with that shot and I'll do the rest (I produce a
downsize at 800x600 in png using Gimp, and then another png at 400x300
using Photoshop. Empirically, that seems to produce the best quality.

IMHO, it would be best to keep all the screenshots to this "uniform format".

Apart from that, we can format the layout the way you want it
(preferably without breaking out of the theme styles).

It would be great if we can work on this together, so that we get the
result you want.

David Nelson

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 22:16, Michael Meeks  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>        I was browsing the new features page: which is something we want to be
> directing lots of interested journalists and others to over the next
> days and weeks; and I was wondering if it could be improved.
>
>        comparing:
>
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features/
>
>        to
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.3/index.html
>
>        I must confess I prefer the latter :-(
>
>        eg. I love the work the l10n team does; it is a vital part of what we
> do - but it is also something that people take for granted as in "it
> should just work in my language" - ie. they get upset only if it is not
> there ;-)
>
>        Would it be possible to move that to the bottom ?
>
>        Then, there are some quite sexy new things we have that (IMHO) would
> benefit from a screenshot; eg.
>
>        * Caolan's new title-page dialog in writer (Format->Title Page)
>        * And some of our import filters:
>                + SVG, Works, Wordperfect, Lotus Word Pro
>                + better EMF rendering
>                + perhaps pictures of bundled extensions (?)
>
>        Of course, I'd love to have the relevant files linked as well, so
> people can try that out quickly ( cf. the obsolete
> http://go-oo.org/discover ); IMHO that adds a lot.
>
>        David / Christophe - any objections to this sort of change ? - we can
> make screenshots small enough that there are few-to-no associated l10n
> issues, and even (in my view) plain, flat rectangles, without beautiful
> green drop-shadows (or whatever) would be rather good here (?)
>
>        I'm happy to work on collecting the shots / files together.
>
>        Thanks,
>
>                Michael.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,
On 14/01/2011 17:16, Michael Meeks wrote:

Hi there,

I was browsing the new features page: which is something we want to be
directing lots of interested journalists and others to over the next
days and weeks; and I was wondering if it could be improved.

comparing:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features/

to

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.3/index.html

I must confess I prefer the latter :-(


This list was only a support for work between doc/l10n/QA/marketing 
projects, I think it's here by mistake.


eg. I love the work the l10n team does; it is a vital part of what we
do - but it is also something that people take for granted as in "it
should just work in my language" - ie. they get upset only if it is not
there ;-)

Would it be possible to move that to the bottom ?


In my opinion, l10n part could be removed and we could let only what is 
bug fixes or enhancements.


Then, there are some quite sexy new things we have that (IMHO) would
benefit from a screenshot; eg.

* Caolan's new title-page dialog in writer (Format->Title Page)
* And some of our import filters:
+ SVG, Works, Wordperfect, Lotus Word Pro
+ better EMF rendering
+ perhaps pictures of bundled extensions (?)


We are conducting a poll on the FR list on the top 5 LibO new functions 
by our testers, so if it can help here is what we will highlight on the 
site (no special order):


- Titles tree in the Navigator (it gets a big support :-)
- Dotted borders in Writer/Calc
- Autofilter enhancements
- Colored icons (big support too!)
- Presenter screen
- modification and re-export of svg files
- the + tab to add a sheet in Calc
- the Form entry in Calc menu
- Title page in Writer menu
- New shortcuts for delete cell content in Calc (vs legacy OOo ones)

Kind regards
Sophie



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[libreoffice-website] new features page ...

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there,

I was browsing the new features page: which is something we want to be
directing lots of interested journalists and others to over the next
days and weeks; and I was wondering if it could be improved.

comparing:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features/

to

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.3/index.html

I must confess I prefer the latter :-(

eg. I love the work the l10n team does; it is a vital part of what we
do - but it is also something that people take for granted as in "it
should just work in my language" - ie. they get upset only if it is not
there ;-)

Would it be possible to move that to the bottom ?

Then, there are some quite sexy new things we have that (IMHO) would
benefit from a screenshot; eg.

* Caolan's new title-page dialog in writer (Format->Title Page)
* And some of our import filters:
+ SVG, Works, Wordperfect, Lotus Word Pro
+ better EMF rendering
+ perhaps pictures of bundled extensions (?)

Of course, I'd love to have the relevant files linked as well, so
people can try that out quickly ( cf. the obsolete
http://go-oo.org/discover ); IMHO that adds a lot.

David / Christophe - any objections to this sort of change ? - we can
make screenshots small enough that there are few-to-no associated l10n
issues, and even (in my view) plain, flat rectangles, without beautiful
green drop-shadows (or whatever) would be rather good here (?)

I'm happy to work on collecting the shots / files together.

Thanks,

Michael.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibO community distributors

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-14 04:03, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

Hello Dave,

I think we have to set a series of criteria for official community
distributors before we set any page. And I think we need to discuss
whatever ideas we could come up with. As I already wrote to you you're
welcome to work on this.

Best,
Charles.

Le Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:04:18 -0600,
Dave Johnson  a écrit :


Question? When will the Community Distributors page be up with links
to "my page 'http://www.libreofficedvd.info'" and many others as
listed on the wiki?

If you look at my new page you will see a "coming soon" pic and links
back to the LibO download page at http://www.libreoffice.org.



Dave Johnson, USNFR
davefilms...@gmail.com
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(619) 335-5314Dave Johnson DUNS number: 826989779

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OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";


I just wanted to remind people of my point as well, that we should make 
available to anyone a page with a "LibreOffice Distribution Kit" 
detailing how to download the appropriate LibreOffice files and burning 
logo for distribution on their own. We should make it as easy as 
possible for people to distribute our distro. For example, family 
members burning sets for relatives and neighbours or teachers making 
copies for students. If we provide a cool logo to burn on the DVD it 
would also advertise our brand.


If we make it too difficult for people to burn copies, then it will 
impact our market penetration. Mass distribution should be our goal.


Cheers

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:06:10 +0100,
klaus-jürgen weghorn ol  a écrit :

> Hi Michael, *,
> Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
> >
> > I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
> > put on blogs or profiles.
> > This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of
> > messages.
> >
> > What do people think?
> >
> +1
> 

+1 indeed. And one official logo for LibreOffice Volunteers :-)

Best,

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The Document Foundation.

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[libreoffice-website] Help files on the download page

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré
With the continuing problem with the help files being available and not 
available, would it then make sense for the download detection, at the 
point of detection, detect the OS and if there is need for a help file 
download? Then, we could download the distro, lang pack (if necessary) 
and help file (if necessary).


I hope that the help files will be included with all distros. This is a 
real deal-breaker for educational use. I doubt very much that any 
educational institutions would look kindly at having to install help 
files (as extra downloads). This just make a seamless installation that 
much more complicated for nothing. Plus the fact that an office suite 
without a help file doesn't quite make much sense.


In the meantime, could we also have a link on the download page 
indicating where to download the help files (if needed)? We should 
really be all testing the files and, I guess, we should also be testing 
whether these install properly to the different linux distros.


Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-website] Re: Muti-Category Search Extension on the wiki

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-14 03:43, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-01-10 09.36:


In order to ease the research in our (FR) FAQ articles, could it be
possible to install this extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search


copying Manuel, our wiki heroe, on that. :-) Manuel plans to set-up
multi-lingual wikis in a few weeks, after MediaWiki 1.17 has been released.

Sophie, when do you need the extension? If a within a few weeks is
enough, then let's wait, because the issue will be solved due to the new
wikis itself then. If not, Manuel, can you jump in and install it?

Thanks,
Florian



Sorry to highjack the thread a bit. Is there a calender module available 
too? Maybe we could use such a module for our events calendar? I am 
interested in keeping a history of attended events so that we can better 
plan for these a year later. Most attended events on the wiki events 
page are deleted which completely defeats the purpose of planning for a 
next year attendance.


Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-website] Re: Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-01-14 03:58, Michael Wheatland a écrit :



I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
put on blogs or profiles.
This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of messages.

What do people think?



I agree with this. Obviously, the more we can offer to our supporters 
the more we will be able to get free advertisement for our product. We 
should really try to get this ready for the final release. Then we can 
all actively promote this to newcomers to the suite.


Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 16:58, Michael Wheatland
 wrote:
> I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
> put on blogs or profiles.
> This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of messages.

Sounds like a great sub-page to add under the About Us page, full of
the kind of content you've been mentioning in this thread.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Muti-Category Search Extension on the wiki

2011-01-14 Thread Manuel Schneider

Hi,

it's already done.

Regards,


Manuel

Am 14.01.2011 09:51, schrieb Sophie Gautier:

Hi Florian, Manuel,
On 14/01/2011 11:43, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-01-10 09.36:


In order to ease the research in our (FR) FAQ articles, could it be
possible to install this extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search


copying Manuel, our wiki heroe, on that. :-) Manuel plans to set-up
multi-lingual wikis in a few weeks, after MediaWiki 1.17 has been
released.

Sophie, when do you need the extension? If a within a few weeks is
enough, then let's wait, because the issue will be solved due to the new
wikis itself then. If not, Manuel, can you jump in and install it?


There is no emergency, we also have a release soon ;-)
Manuel, we will wait until you've the time for the multi-lingual wikis,
you're baby is more important and thank you very much for your support :)

Kind regards
Sophie



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
 wrote:
> Hi Michael, *,
> Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:
>>
>> I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
>> put on blogs or profiles.
>> This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of
>> messages.
>>
>> What do people think?
>>
> +1
>
> --
> Greetings
> k-j

Maybe something like this (Works on darker backgrounds, not so well on white):

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DEiZb4Onok5V78oNMZAAmw?feat=directlink

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Erich,

Am 14.01.2011 11:13, schrieb Erich Christian:

>>> BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
>>> libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV)

> Maybe they'll be more impressed by an "official" request, I've tried before:
> http://gds.tuwien.tel/

I already sent them another E-Mail in behalf of TDF/OOoDeV and asked
them to agree to transferring the domain to OOoDev.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Flo, *

Am 14.01.2011 09:35, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
> Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-01-13 22.47:
>> BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
>> libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV) or at least to redirect to
>> de.libreoffice.org. What do you think?
> 
> good idea. Do you have contacts to them?

Maybe they'll be more impressed by an "official" request, I've tried before:
http://gds.tuwien.tel/

ciao
Erich

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Re: [libreoffice-website] About http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html and Linux readme

2011-01-14 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi David,
On 14/01/2011 12:20, David Nelson wrote:

Hi, :-)

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 17:05, Sophie Gautier  wrote:

The readme is in the sources, and is built during the install process. So
what you need to do is :
- have the same page on the static site than the one in the version,
- work in the wiki for the next version and get the documentation members
updating it according to the developers info
- then open an issue with the content when it's ready (at feature freeze) so
that it could be updated in the sources of the product
- inform the l10n team so that we are sure it passes through the
localization process before beta time.


OK, Sophie, I've bookmarked this for future organization within the
docs team's and website team's responsibilities before new releases...


If you want also, the page 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Release is for this kind of 
coordination.
For the moment, there is no dates, only deadlines, but for the next 
release, I'll complete/update the table.


Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] About http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html and Linux readme

2011-01-14 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 17:05, Sophie Gautier  wrote:
> The readme is in the sources, and is built during the install process. So
> what you need to do is :
> - have the same page on the static site than the one in the version,
> - work in the wiki for the next version and get the documentation members
> updating it according to the developers info
> - then open an issue with the content when it's ready (at feature freeze) so
> that it could be updated in the sources of the product
> - inform the l10n team so that we are sure it passes through the
> localization process before beta time.

OK, Sophie, I've bookmarked this for future organization within the
docs team's and website team's responsibilities before new releases...

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Muti-Category Search Extension on the wiki

2011-01-14 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Manuel,
On 14/01/2011 12:09, Manuel Schneider wrote:

Hi,

it's already done.

Thank you very much! (will check before answering next time ;)

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Michael, *,
Am 14.01.2011 09:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:


I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
put on blogs or profiles.
This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of messages.

What do people think?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] About http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html and Linux readme

2011-01-14 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi David,
On 14/01/2011 08:52, David Nelson wrote:

Hi Christian, Sophie, :-)

@Christian: I don't see the page that contains the content of
http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html but I need to update
it, and this will need doing at each release.
Where is it please?

Also, what is the *purpose* of
http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/introduction/ ? And where is this
page? I'd suggest redirecting it to
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/

@Sophie: I have been going through the Linux readme and checking the
links. Most of the addresses differ in relation to the site's IA. I
have set-up redirector pages, so there is no problem with broken links
but, basically, it would be ideal to change the URLs in the readme.
The libreoffice.org site's IA *should* be fairly stable now...


The readme is in the sources, and is built during the install process. 
So what you need to do is :

- have the same page on the static site than the one in the version,
- work in the wiki for the next version and get the documentation 
members updating it according to the developers info
- then open an issue with the content when it's ready (at feature 
freeze) so that it could be updated in the sources of the product
- inform the l10n team so that we are sure it passes through the 
localization process before beta time.


Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Using free, open microblogging

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:48 PM, David Nelson  wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> I have linked the libreofficenews Twitter account with identi.ca and
> will tweet from identi.ca in future so that tweets ("dents"?) go to
> both.
>
> David Nelson

This has implications for the Drupal development site as we were
hoping we might be able to integrate tweets with the support section.

I just checked and Drupal has modules for identi.ca which are simply a
backend for the plugin which tweets. From what I have read it should
also support any other status.net installation if we decide to have
our own instance of identica/status update system on the LibreOffice
infrastructure.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibO community distributors

2011-01-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Dave,

I think we have to set a series of criteria for official community
distributors before we set any page. And I think we need to discuss
whatever ideas we could come up with. As I already wrote to you you're
welcome to work on this.

Best,
Charles.

Le Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:04:18 -0600,
Dave Johnson  a écrit :

> Question? When will the Community Distributors page be up with links
> to "my page 'http://www.libreofficedvd.info'" and many others as
> listed on the wiki?
> 
> If you look at my new page you will see a "coming soon" pic and links
> back to the LibO download page at http://www.libreoffice.org.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Johnson, USNFR
> davefilms...@gmail.com
> 6195496830
> http://www.davefilms.us
> http://www.libreofficedvd.info
> (619) 335-5314
> (619) 335-5314Dave Johnson DUNS number: 826989779
> 
> "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/"; 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Hi Drew,
>
> drew wrote on 2011-01-12 19.31:
>
>> One of the folks, Jeff Chimene, on the US Markting list setup an example
>> under his user account page at the wiki:
>>
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_talk:JChimene
>
> good idea, indeed!
>
>> The idea is to dish up the graphic from the wiki server and of course
>> link back to the LibO site - the users simply copy/paste the HTML.
>
> The wiki is always a bad idea to get images from. Links are neither pretty,
> nor will they remain stable, and the wiki has some overhead. Something at
> www.libreoffice.org itself would be much better, I guess, for serving the
> files.
>
>> 1) Dishing the graphic from our server, seems like a good idea to me,
>> but what do others think on this?
>
> Hm... that means we have to keep one link constant and some people might
> also object to the trackability (http referer) this opens up. What do others
> think?
>
>> 2) There will need to be some text about what you can and can't do -
>> could use some help on that.
>
> We will publish a trademark policy draft soon to steering-discuss, maybe
> it's worth waiting for it and see if it already clarifies things.
>
> Florian

I think it would also be good to create some 'badges' for people to
put on blogs or profiles.
This might include an "I use LibreOffice" or "Join me..." type of messages.

What do people think?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger
Do you have an e-mail address of them? The WHOIS record doesn't reveal 
it. :/


Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-01-14 09.48:

No, not at all. All I remember is: During the very first SC
conference call I posted a question to the IRC about the usage of
libreoffice.at by gdsw.at. People in the conference call just said,
that these are nice guys, so nothing to worry about.;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Muti-Category Search Extension on the wiki

2011-01-14 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Florian, Manuel,
On 14/01/2011 11:43, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-01-10 09.36:


In order to ease the research in our (FR) FAQ articles, could it be
possible to install this extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search


copying Manuel, our wiki heroe, on that. :-) Manuel plans to set-up
multi-lingual wikis in a few weeks, after MediaWiki 1.17 has been released.

Sophie, when do you need the extension? If a within a few weeks is
enough, then let's wait, because the issue will be solved due to the new
wikis itself then. If not, Manuel, can you jump in and install it?


There is no emergency, we also have a release soon ;-)
Manuel, we will wait until you've the time for the multi-lingual wikis, 
you're baby is more important and thank you very much for your support :)


Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 14.01.2011 09:35, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

> Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-01-13 22.47:

>> BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
>> libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV) or at least to redirect to
>> de.libreoffice.org. What do you think?

> good idea. Do you have contacts to them?

No, not at all. All I remember is: During the very first SC
conference call I posted a question to the IRC about the usage of
libreoffice.at by gdsw.at. People in the conference call just said,
that these are nice guys, so nothing to worry about. ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Muti-Category Search Extension on the wiki

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-01-10 09.36:


In order to ease the research in our (FR) FAQ articles, could it be
possible to install this extension:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Multi-Category_Search


copying Manuel, our wiki heroe, on that. :-) Manuel plans to set-up 
multi-lingual wikis in a few weeks, after MediaWiki 1.17 has been released.


Sophie, when do you need the extension? If a within a few weeks is 
enough, then let's wait, because the issue will be solved due to the new 
wikis itself then. If not, Manuel, can you jump in and install it?


Thanks,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki site and links

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-01-11 20.08:

I just noticed that on the wiki site, the links under the "Navigation":
Home; Get LibreOffice; and Join ... should these links point to the
LibreOffice.org site instead of back to the TDF site?

Maybe someone could fix these links to point to the right site? The TDF
site they point to are the older pages that are no longer updated or used.


good point, indeed. Just edited the links.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] OpenDoc Society PR

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/msg00022.html :-)

David Nelson wrote on 2011-01-13 20.36:

Would you like to forward it to me so I can deal with it, then?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Libo Logos for third party sites

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Drew,

drew wrote on 2011-01-12 19.31:


One of the folks, Jeff Chimene, on the US Markting list setup an example
under his user account page at the wiki:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_talk:JChimene


good idea, indeed!


The idea is to dish up the graphic from the wiki server and of course
link back to the LibO site - the users simply copy/paste the HTML.


The wiki is always a bad idea to get images from. Links are neither 
pretty, nor will they remain stable, and the wiki has some overhead. 
Something at www.libreoffice.org itself would be much better, I guess, 
for serving the files.



1) Dishing the graphic from our server, seems like a good idea to me,
but what do others think on this?


Hm... that means we have to keep one link constant and some people might 
also object to the trackability (http referer) this opens up. What do 
others think?



2) There will need to be some text about what you can and can't do -
could use some help on that.


We will publish a trademark policy draft soon to steering-discuss, maybe 
it's worth waiting for it and see if it already clarifies things.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-01-13 22.47:


BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV) or at least to redirect to
de.libreoffice.org. What do you think?


good idea. Do you have contacts to them?


Do you happen to know the domain holder of libreoffice.ch and
libreoffice.li?


Yes, thanks for the reminder, just gave him a ping.

Florian

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