Re: [libreoffice-website] Status of Website

2010-11-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado

On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 06:20:36 -0600, drew  wrote:


On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 13:16 +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote:

But I would like to explain how the things work to
the French group and I need to do it by myself


no problem - it was intended for whoever is doing the English pages
actually. (also it isn't really a straight translation, but I figured
folks would catch on to that..:)





I register to the site, but havent found how to add content to it. Did I  
miss something?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Status of Website

2010-11-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:51:55 -0600, fyva  wrote:

Please, can you grant me publisher rights at ru.test.libreoffice.org? My  
user name: Clio.




Mine is at es.test.libreoffice.org my username is JZA

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Hijack the Marketing Conference Call today :)

2010-11-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:54:00 -0600, drew  wrote:


Hi,

There is a planned conference call for the marketing team today:


For some reaason I am unable to sign in, it says that the private PIN is  
not correct.





I'm cross posting here as for my agenda item I've added - website



Wednesday, 2010-11-17, 18:00 UTC

Doodle Poll Result:
http://doodle.com/3y9nfq8bnihpz9dc

Please use the drop-down menu to convert the time into something that
fits your time zone.


The current agenda and the the dial-in details are available here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#Agenda


Also saw an email from Christian to the dev list the other day
regarding
support ( sup.tdf.org vs tdf.org/sup being the question ), but that is
I
suppose besides the point for the phone call.

For todays call, in what ~2 hours, I was hoping to go over anyones
ideas
for the Why pages or the Front page



Thanks

Drew





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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Update on Drupal Website Progress

2010-11-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:16:12 -0600, Sophie Gautier  
 wrote:



Hi,

Le 2010-11-22 21:10, Michael Wheatland a écrit :

Thanks all for the input to this concept.

I just wanted to clarify a couple of points:

1. Localisation teams will still exist in an ecosystem along side the
development, design, marketing groups.
All communications in these groups will be in native languages, but
others can also contribute to them using auto-translations.
Not ideal, but we don't have enough translators to get them to
translate every conversation on the site.


This is where you are mistaken, this is not about localization, it's  
about native language. No localization in these groups is needed  
concerning their work on their sites. No Google translation, no Drupal  
translation, no Pootle translation.


2. As mentioned before the main site will be structured the same way
for all languages. English is not the default translate to-from
language, it is the simply the fallback if a translation is not
available.


No, each language will structure their site as they want. And English is  
not a fall back. If the page doesn't exist in the given language of the  
site, it doesn't exist at all on any the site.



ie. if someone in china accesses a page originally written in french
with no other translations available it will display in french.


It's completely stupid, sorry for that. The content of this page may  
have absolutely no relevance for the Chinese Group, why should they have  
our shop pages displayed. Another example, why should you display the  
German page about their Box? it only is relevant for the German Group.  
Each language group has its own life and is not shared by the others  
every time. We are not cloned.

If an

english translation is available it will display in english.


And it's not acceptable for a sake of quality. It will give a very poor  
image of our groups.


  If there

is a chinese translation available it will display in chinese.


Really irrelevant.



In terms of the Q&A section, I would expect that there will be a
knowledge base of manually translated questions and answers along side
an ad-hoc section which would be automatically translated. Quality
ad-hoc questions when answered could be moved to the knowledge base
section then manually translated for accuracy. The concept is fluid at
the moment, so if you would like to see any other features please let
us know.


Again, the QA team are used to work together, so don't put constraints  
where they are not needed.


Currently, all this has my absolute veto.

Kind regards
Sophie
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Sorry I am just chippin in with no background on the conversation aside  
from the content of this email and the title. Sophie, perhaps you want to  
add how would it work best instead of just saying is not good. Also from  
your comments it seems we should just have separate vhosts for each  
Language. That way it will be completely separate.


I actually have been asking for this since forever, of course the best way  
was just going ahead and doing it ourselves instead of trying to convince  
an admin. But having VPS where we can generate our own site using our  
preferred language and technology was a solution for many of our needs  
that we had in the past. Of course this is taking it a bit to the extreme.  
But I wonder what would be the argument for not doing this. I can think of  
a nightmare to admin +/-72 different VPS but I also can see the benefit of  
having our own selection of technologies to use.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Proposed Drupal Frontpage and Genral pages theme -- Drupal Web. Dev. Team

2010-11-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:37:15 -0600, Carlos Jenkins  
 wrote:



2010/11/24 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol 


Hi Marc,
Am 23.11.2010 12:57, schrieb Marc Paré:



http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:DrupalFrontpage120.png


What will I see first on a display with 1024x768 pixel


The same, but almost without the gray borders.



or less than that?


A horizontal scroll bar.


Think of all the projectors, netbooks and tablets, presentations on  
fairs.

Is the website then usable and readable?

This is expected to be a fluid layout, shrinks to 1024px wide and grows  
up
to 1280px wide (because of line width before break readability issues).  
This
is acceptable for you? We can think also of a portable devices/small  
screen

portal with much less prettiness.

Kind regards



General rule is preffered to have % on the css and some other type of  
styling tool to increase/decrease fonts. Of course that many desktop  
browsers already have that feature and even the mobile ones have some type  
of zooming tool.


Which tools are you using for CSS, are you using the Blueprint CSS  
framework like the original TDF site?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Proposed Drupal Frontpage and Genral pages theme -- Drupal Web. Dev. Team

2010-11-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 05:01:19 -0600, Michael Wheatland  
 wrote:


Which tools are you using for CSS, are you using the Blueprint CSS  
framework

like the original TDF site?


The CSS framework will be based off the 'Genesis' Drupal base theme
then modified to match the design when finalised as has been discussed
here before.
There are a lot of core drupal functionality in both the front and
back end which requires adherence to a specific CSS structure for the
common elements.
http://drupal.org/project/genesis

Michael Wheatland



ok thanks for the info. However I still wonder how adaptive is this theme,  
does it uses % and adaptive rules?


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Introducing myself

2010-12-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:08:33 -0600, Samuel Gómez   
wrote:



On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Michael Wheatland
 wrote:

2010/12/6 Samuel Gómez :

Hi all,

I am Samuel, and I would like to help the website team with the  
download page.


I have skills with PHP, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

In particular, I would like to help the team to create the best
download page a software can have.

To that purpose I think in two abstract goals:
- For users, the page should be transparent.
- For developers, the page should not require maintenance.

So, I would be glad to help you achieving these goals as much as  
possible.


I'll create a new thread to talk more in detail about the download  
page.


Thank you.


Samuel,
It is great to see someone with these skills come to the community. As
for the download page, as well as tackling the SilverStripe page it
might be good to get involved with the Drupal based website that will
replace the test.libreoffice.org site early next year.

It would be fantastic if we could write a Drupal module which is
dedicated to providing download options for libreoffice based on our
FTP structure as well as provide a distributed download option
(torrent).

Thanks,
Michael Wheatland
LibreOffice Drupal website development team

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Excellent. I had some intense experience with Drupal last summer. Not
so intense regarding modules, but I'll learn more about them.

Do you have a Drupal installed somewhere for testing?



Most of the status and resources are in the website wiki page:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Merry Christmas! - My present for you: test is gone, site went live :-)

2010-12-23 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> Thanks to the great help and huge amount David did put into the site
> in providing the initial content, the site is now live!
> No test.* anymore, http://www.libreoffice.org is the way to go :-D
>
> I again have to thank all the people who worked really hard in the
> last month to make this happen. You really rock!

Any incentive to have a Xmass theme header for the site. Nothing too
big but just something that is recognizable?

> The work is of course not done, eye-candy is missing, and a revised
> theme is in the works.
>
> Merry Christmas to everyone, hope you & family are all safe and can
> enjoy the holidays.
>
> ciao
> Christian
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Merry Christmas! - My present for you: test is gone, site went live :-)

2010-12-23 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:45 PM, David Nelson  wrote:
> Hi, :-)
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 09:44, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>> Any incentive to have a Xmass theme header for the site. Nothing too
>> big but just something that is recognizable?
>
> Sadly, there's no time for that work. We're lucky to have the site already. 
> ;-)

The theme is acorss projects and just adding a custom background might
do the trick.

>
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[libreoffice-website] Create a form in silverstripe

2011-01-21 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I am curious how we have a form like the one under downloads from the
Silverstripe interface?

regards.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] pronunciation of Libre

2011-01-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:31 PM, G. Jay Kerns  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Congratulations on the successful release of LibreOffice 3.3.  I am
> writing because in browsing the LibreOffice website I came across a
> page here
>
>
> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/general-faq/how-do-you-pronounce-libreoffice/
>
> that said "How do you pronounce LibreOffice?"  I was led to a page
> that had Google Translate, and the link to the pronunciation (in
> English) sounded like this:
>
> "LIE - BREE Office"  (1)
>
> The above is not written with bona-fide IPA notation, but English
> speakers will understand what I mean.  Is this really what the
> developers intend?  I would have thought that (in English) it should
> sound like this:
>
> "LEE - bruh Office"  (2)
>
> or even
>
> "LEE - bray Office"
>
> I wonder if what is happening is that the computers at Google are not
> calculating correctly what the English should sound like, and that
> maybe somebody did not double-check that Google was doing the right
> thing (for English).  I could be wrong, of course.  It is possible
> that the LibreOffice developers did wish it to sound like LIE-BREE in
> English, although for the life of me I can't imagine why.
>
> If I am wrong then please disregard this email;  I guess I'll say it
> like everybody else???  If I am right, but if this is the wrong list
> then please let me know and I will repost elsewhere.
>
> Thanks for your hard work on LibreOffice and congratulations on the
> success of your release.
>
> Best,
> Jay
>


The best example for Americans at least is the drink "Cuba libre" which is
pretty popular in bars. Most americans however usually pronounced Lee-brr
(without the e).



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Re: [libreoffice-website] about DFD2011

2011-02-04 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Dave Johnson  wrote:

> I would like to see a link back to http://www.libreoffice.info too. I
> activly promote libre office on my pages and webpages.
>




>
> Dave Johnson
>
> On Feb 4, 2011 6:08 AM, "Florian Effenberger" <
> flo...@documentfoundation.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote on 2011-02-04 00.35:
>
>
> >
> > hey guys, what do you think about adding a banner for
> > *DFD2011*<http://documentfreedom.org/>i...
> thanks for the idea. Basically, yes, but I first would love to see some
> activities we do on DFD. :-) Last year we tried something with OOo, but
> overall, IMHO not so much happened.
>
> If we can coordinate efforts better this year, we can start activities and
> then also link to DFD. Otherwise people will ask why we do not participate
> actively. :-)
>

There were other posts regarding DFD as well for creating localized artwork:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/msg02091.html


>
> Let's discuss that on the marketing list, where Alexandro also started a
> DFD
> thread.
>

I agree, marketing should be the list to follow on this. Here is the
original post:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/msg02153.html


>
> That being said, I currently try to organize some DFD stuff for Munich.
>
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[libreoffice-website] Inserting custom javascript and google sites

2011-02-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi I would like to have a javascript added to the NL team, wonder how I can
go about adding custom javascript code to the site. I think I asked this in
the past but can't really find any email related to the topic.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] donation barometer

2011-02-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Bernhard Dippold <
bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote:

> Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
>
>> Hi Florian, *,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Can we localize the Banner text for various sites? At least English and
>>> German would be desirable.
>>>
>>
>> Well, as the basis is a background image - it's not really feasible.
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/banner.png
>>
>
> There are two options:
>
> a) localize the image
>
> I updated the SVG source in the wiki:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/78/Banner_600x60.svg
>
> So everybody should be able to replace the English text with the native
> language.
>
> If someone provides me with the respective *short* texts in other languages
> I could create the images too.
>
> b) replace all the text in the banner with HTML (in proper size, color and
> font)
>
> This would mean more work on the HTML/css side, but localization would be
> much easier.
>
> If someone is able to do this work, I provide the background image without
> any text:
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Banner_notext_600x60.png
>
> But please be aware, that this banner is likely to be modified during the
> next days, so you might have to repeat your work ...
>
> Best regards
>
> Bernhard
>
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I think the red kind of breaks the overal tone of the site. I wouldn have
chosen blue or other color closer to the light green from the site.
http://www.oooes.org/images/Banner_600x60.svg

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Re: [libreoffice-website] donation barometer

2011-02-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Bernhard Dippold <
bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote:

> Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
>
>> Hi Florian, *,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Can we localize the Banner text for various sites? At least English and
>>> German would be desirable.
>>>
>>
>> Well, as the basis is a background image - it's not really feasible.
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/banner.png
>>
>
> There are two options:
>
> a) localize the image
>
> I updated the SVG source in the wiki:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/7/78/Banner_600x60.svg
>
> So everybody should be able to replace the English text with the native
> language.
>
> If someone provides me with the respective *short* texts in other languages
> I could create the images too.
>
> b) replace all the text in the banner with HTML (in proper size, color and
> font)
>
> This would mean more work on the HTML/css side, but localization would be
> much easier.
>
> If someone is able to do this work, I provide the background image without
> any text:
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Banner_notext_600x60.png
>
> But please be aware, that this banner is likely to be modified during the
> next days, so you might have to repeat your work ...
>
> Best regards
>
> Bernhard
>
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Another idea is taking advantage of HTML5 and redoing the banner using
canvas.  Here are two nice tutorials talking about Canvas in general and
another focused on the usage of text and fonts:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/canvas_tutorial
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/drawing_text_using_a_canvas

Unfortunately Canvas and HTML5 in general depends a lot on JS and from my
experience, the sliverstripe platform is not good enough supporting it. The
advantage of using Canvas is that the banner will be more scriptable and
easier to enhance with SSI for a more dynamic meter.

The raphael JS libary might be an overkill but still is a smooth resources
to take advantage of.
http://raphaeljs.com/

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Spanish Challenge page

2011-02-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Florian Effenberger <
flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just added/modified some account information to the English and German
> Challenge page. Can the people responsible for the Spanish translation adapt
> it? Thanks ;)
>


What modifications?
I can see many difference between the english and the german site.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Spanish Challenge page

2011-02-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Florian Effenberger <
> flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just added/modified some account information to the English and German
>> Challenge page. Can the people responsible for the Spanish translation adapt
>> it? Thanks ;)
>>
>
>
> What modifications?
> I can see many difference between the english and the german site.
>


Spanish translation of the announcement was put on the wiki since that's
where most of the annoucements are:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ES/Reto5


>
>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Spanish Challenge page

2011-02-17 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Nelson wrote:

> Hi, :-)
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 03:12, Alexandro Colorado 
> wrote:
> > What modifications?
> > I can see many difference between the english and the german site.
>
> I *think* the English site would be the reference.
>

Sorry I most have misinterpret  the msg, and got confused website changes
with account information changes.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice form at OpenOffice.org Forums site (was: On forums for LibreOffice )

2011-04-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:30 AM, drew  wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 06:16 -0400, drew wrote:
> 
> >
> > Yesterday I initiated a conversation with the OO.o Community Forum
> > administrators about opening a LibreOffice specific sub-forum at the
> > site. This is a large step beyond just having the name LibreOffice in
> > the header.
> >
> > (as an aside, and since there seems to be some confusion on this - the
> > Community Forum is not official in that Oracle has no ownership or
> > management role in the forum, it offers gratis hosting services only,
> > the site is owned and managed by the Volunteers Group within the forum)
> >
> > The LibreOffice forum would be a sub-form within the overall site
> > structure, and as such can be referenced directly from a URL - so for
> > instance instead of listing "OpenOffice.org User Services Forum" on our
> > support page the link could be "LibreOffice Forum at OpenOffice.org
> > Community Forums" and have the link take the user directly to the
> > LibreOffice specific section.
> >
> > The LibreOffice sub-forum would be added at the lop level of the English
> > OO.o Forum (for now this would be the English forum only), for
> > visibility to suers enter the forums normally. (NOT at the Language
> > level which is the very top of the site hierarchy)
> >
> > This would be a flat forum, no module breakdown, so this is a compromise
> > for now - of course the module areas are available as normal to the
> > users and moderators can move messages to appropriate area when needed.
> >
> > I'll skip more details for this email, but can cover those as needed.
> >
> > So where is that is - One of the moderators wrote a, well thought out,
> > argument against doing this, another wrote a strong argument for doing
> > this (including possibilities as to where this could lead) - each asked
> > a few questions of me during that and the responses are included.
> >
> > Today, I will create a voting poll for the general membership (Vols
> > Group) an draft a message to the members presenting the idea and calling
> > for the vote. The poll will run for 7 days or until all members have
> > voted, if 7 days a simple majority will carry the vote.
> >
>
> Just to follow up on this:
>
> A few arguments pro and con where added to the discussion over night
> from some of the senior moderator crew.
>
> The message has been mailed to each member of the Volunteer group and
> the poll is now open for voting - Poll closes on May 4th.
>
> Thanks (and sorry for my poor typing skills)
>
> Drew
>
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If users will find it less confusing I am all forward for it.
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[libreoffice-website] Planet subscription

2011-05-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hi I want to add my blog to the planet site.

This is my feed: http://jza.me/tag/libreoffice

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Planet subscription

2011-05-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

> Hi Alexandro,
>
>
> On 09/05/2011 20:50, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> Hi I want to add my blog to the planet site.
>>
>> This is my feed: http://jza.me/tag/libreoffice
>>
>>  Will you continue for a long time to take one line here and another on
> the OOo list?
> Please, stay with your OOo community and the way you support it, I don't
> think we need your help here.
>

First that is a very rude reply.
Second, I contribute to the this community as well as others you can check
the pootle system for example, if you said that you dont need my help here,
I wonder why the system took my contributions as well as any other
contributer.
Third, I dont see where at your bylaws says, "you may not contribute to any
other project open or closed but this one".


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Planet subscription

2011-05-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

> On 09/05/2011 21:05, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sophie Gautier> >wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Alexandro,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/05/2011 20:50, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi I want to add my blog to the planet site.
>>>>
>>>> This is my feed: http://jza.me/tag/libreoffice
>>>>
>>>>  Will you continue for a long time to take one line here and another on
>>>>
>>> the OOo list?
>>> Please, stay with your OOo community and the way you support it, I don't
>>> think we need your help here.
>>>
>>>
>> First that is a very rude reply
>>
>
> As rude as the attitude you have for other members of our community.


Rude as nothing close to the person I met in Italy and have a good
conversation about how to improve free software even after people egos get
in the way.


>
>
>  Second, I contribute to the this community as well as others you can check
>> the pootle system for example, if you said that you dont need my help
>> here,
>> I wonder why the system took my contributions as well as any other
>> contributer.
>>
>
> Oh, yes enough to say you represent everybody in the Spanish community and
> direct them to *your* OOo community, prevent them to contribute to the
> LibreOffice community to keep them under "control".


I have never prevent anyone to contribute to any community. I only respond
to their questions on how to best contribute, which is not the same thing.



>
>
>  Third, I dont see where at your bylaws says, "you may not contribute to
>> any
>> other project open or closed but this one".
>>
>
> Did I say that? No, read again : to take one line here and another on
> the OOo lists.
>

Please let me know when did I do that? Althought even if I do took one line
and put it on another list, I dont see the crime there. I do have one brain,
so things that I might say on one list, I will also say in the other since
is the same way of thinking after all.



> Your way to act is well know and related at several places on the web and
> by a large part of the Spanish community who is *really* working in our
> project now. And they don't need your double language here.
>

I actually don't know how well you know the way I act. I do participate in
several projects and have help many get to become. After all I have been
involved in free software for +10years.

Like you said, I know who is contributing and who is not. I can see it on
the feed of the systems. There is no mistery here. You can have one click to
view all my commits on pootle, wiki or git. So saying who contributes and
who doesn't is easy to view. Also you will see many on other projects like
OOo and see is the same nickname and people.



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Planet subscription

2011-05-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:

> On 09/05/2011 21:20, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Sophie Gautier> >wrote:
>>
>>  On 09/05/2011 21:05, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sophie Gautier>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Alexandro,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/05/2011 20:50, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi I want to add my blog to the planet site.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my feed: http://jza.me/tag/libreoffice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Will you continue for a long time to take one line here and another
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  the OOo list?
>>>>> Please, stay with your OOo community and the way you support it, I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> think we need your help here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  First that is a very rude reply
>>>>
>>>>
>>> As rude as the attitude you have for other members of our community.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Rude as nothing close to the person I met in Italy and have a good
>> conversation about how to improve free software even after people egos get
>> in the way.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  Second, I contribute to the this community as well as others you can
>>> check
>>>
>>>> the pootle system for example, if you said that you dont need my help
>>>> here,
>>>> I wonder why the system took my contributions as well as any other
>>>> contributer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh, yes enough to say you represent everybody in the Spanish community
>>> and
>>> direct them to *your* OOo community, prevent them to contribute to the
>>> LibreOffice community to keep them under "control".
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have never prevent anyone to contribute to any community. I only respond
>> to their questions on how to best contribute, which is not the same thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  Third, I dont see where at your bylaws says, "you may not contribute to
>>>
>>>> any
>>>> other project open or closed but this one".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Did I say that? No, read again : to take one line here and another on
>>> the OOo lists.
>>>
>>>
>> Please let me know when did I do that? Althought even if I do took one
>> line
>> and put it on another list, I dont see the crime there. I do have one
>> brain,
>> so things that I might say on one list, I will also say in the other since
>> is the same way of thinking after all.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Your way to act is well know and related at several places on the web and
>>> by a large part of the Spanish community who is *really* working in our
>>> project now. And they don't need your double language here.
>>>
>>>
>> I actually don't know how well you know the way I act. I do participate in
>> several projects and have help many get to become. After all I have been
>> involved in free software for +10years.
>>
>> Like you said, I know who is contributing and who is not. I can see it on
>> the feed of the systems. There is no mistery here. You can have one click
>> to
>> view all my commits on pootle, wiki or git. So saying who contributes and
>> who doesn't is easy to view. Also you will see many on other projects like
>> OOo and see is the same nickname and people.
>>
>
>
> I won't lose my time to dig the web even if they are easy to find when you
> speak Spanish a bit, just an example:
>
> http://openoffice.org/projects/marketing/lists/dev/archive/2010-12/message/22
> but we may find a lot in fact
>

Oh but you dont need to speak spanish, the apps are very well localized you
can view them right here:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/es/
and on wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Contributions/JZA



>
> May be we can ask Daniel, they are pushing the effort here to have
> everything like the documentation project inside the project, strange they
> don't want to use ODFAuthors site...
>

Well that doesnt mean the ODFAuthors site is producing the LibreOffice
documents which Juan Carlos is overseen the work for it. Unfortunately
ODFAuthors have not really a tracking system for users, and honestly I have
done little because of other events I have been involved like FLISOL.

But the LibreOffice documents are well underway from several translators
from the community. I am not sure Daniel is doing any documents however.



> May be we can ask Jesús...
> etc
> etc
> etc
> Enough to end it here, thanks.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] [wiki] QA

2011-05-13 Thread Alexandro Colorado
ah idiot, I thought I was on QA/es

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn <
o...@sophia-louise.de> wrote:

> Hi Alexandro (JZA),
> please wouldn't you translate the QA-page in Spanish directly on the
> original international page. [1]
>
> [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA
>
> I put it back now.
>
> k-j
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Keeping track of changes in global website

2011-06-04 Thread Alexandro Colorado
there is a script called webchecker that build daily reports and email
updates to the implementer. is a perl script i think.ill ask back to
the guy that introduced me to it. we have it running  on one of our
vps.

On 6/4/11, Takashi Nakamoto  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> What would be the best way to keep track of changes in the global
> website? One of the annoying burdens for local website maintainers is
> the work for catching up the changes in the global website and
> reflecting them on the local sites.
>
> I'm not sure how the others do, but at least in our Japanese group, each
> contributor checks the global site when (s)he is inclined, and ask the
> local admins to update our local site. We depends on contributors'
> willing heart and their human power, which I think is an inefficient
> way. We have actually spent much time to check the global site around
> the time of 3.4 release.
>
> I personally think that if we can get diffs by mails, it will be easier
> to maintain local sites. If there's already an effective method to
> follow the changes in the global site, please let me know.
>
> Best regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Keeping track of changes in global website

2011-06-04 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

> there is a script called webchecker that build daily reports and email
> updates to the implementer. is a perl script i think.ill ask back to
> the guy that introduced me to it. we have it running  on one of our
> vps.
>

Sorry I was confusing the scripts, webchecker is actually to check for
broken links, the one I was refering to is urlwatch which is written in
python, you can get here:
http://thp.io/2008/urlwatch/


>
> On 6/4/11, Takashi Nakamoto  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What would be the best way to keep track of changes in the global
> > website? One of the annoying burdens for local website maintainers is
> > the work for catching up the changes in the global website and
> > reflecting them on the local sites.
> >
> > I'm not sure how the others do, but at least in our Japanese group, each
> > contributor checks the global site when (s)he is inclined, and ask the
> > local admins to update our local site. We depends on contributors'
> > willing heart and their human power, which I think is an inefficient
> > way. We have actually spent much time to check the global site around
> > the time of 3.4 release.
> >
> > I personally think that if we can get diffs by mails, it will be easier
> > to maintain local sites. If there's already an effective method to
> > follow the changes in the global site, please let me know.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >  Takashi Nakamoto
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Keeping track of changes in global website

2011-06-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Erich Christian  wrote:

> Hi Takashi,
>
> Am 05.06.2011 05:14, schrieb Takashi Nakamoto:
>
> > I personally think that if we can get diffs by mails, it will be easier
> > to maintain local sites. If there's already an effective method to
> > follow the changes in the global site, please let me know.
>
> Silverstripe provides this feature.
> Easiest would be, you (or/and others) claim an account for the
> international pages and all the changes are going to be mailed to you
> providing a link to the respective page(s).
>

Actually that is not what he is asking, but notifications from the 'main
(english) site'. So he would need an account for EN and for JA. Then he will
get notified changes of EN and apply them to JA. The issue is that well,
every single language will need to do this.

With the script I publish here, he dont need to duplicate accounts to keep
track. At least that's what I understood from his original request.

Another option is to have a feed from the EN version of silverstripe so all
the new content can be read either through RSS or simple XML/HTML or be
emailed to a list like this one. So all updates to the EN site can be public
without needing an account.



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