[libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi all Does anybody knows if we use CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki? Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Sophie, do you mean for registration or for which part of the wiki are you talking?$ Mike Am 06.02.2011 um 08:59 schrieb Sophie Gautier: > Hi all > > Does anybody knows if we use CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki? > Kind regards > Sophie > -- > Founding member of The Document Foundation > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Mike, On 06/02/2011 12:06, Mike Houben wrote: Hi Sophie, do you mean for registration or for which part of the wiki are you talking?$ Yes for registering a new user account. I don't like captcha, but that may avoid spam too. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Sophie, their [1] is no CAPTCHA. We should consider to put a small CAPTCHA their. Mike [1] http://cl.ly/0o430L2a3P1B270A1h1E Am 06.02.2011 um 10:12 schrieb Sophie Gautier: > Hi Mike, > On 06/02/2011 12:06, Mike Houben wrote: >> Hi Sophie, >> >> do you mean for registration or for which part of the wiki are you talking?$ > > Yes for registering a new user account. I don't like captcha, but that may > avoid spam too. > > Kind regards > Sophie > -- > Founding member of The Document Foundation > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On 06/02/11 18:46, Mike Houben wrote: Hi Sophie, their [1] is no CAPTCHA. We should consider to put a small CAPTCHA their. Mike Could we install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA I have global API keys for the service. In my experience ReCaptcha works better than other captcha tools. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Michael, all, On 06/02/2011 12:44, Michael Wheatland wrote: On 06/02/11 18:46, Mike Houben wrote: Hi Sophie, their [1] is no CAPTCHA. We should consider to put a small CAPTCHA their. Mike Could we install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA I have global API keys for the service. In my experience ReCaptcha works better than other captcha tools. My only concern is about accessibility, if there is no issue for AT tools to access to the registration fields and complete the form, no problem for me to install the one you prefer. Otherwise, I prefer we do not add difficulties and I'll continue the daily monitoring against spam. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On 06/02/11 20:18, Sophie Gautier wrote: My only concern is about accessibility, if there is no issue for AT tools to access to the registration fields and complete the form, no problem for me to install the one you prefer. Otherwise, I prefer we do not add difficulties and I'll continue the daily monitoring against spam. Kind regards Sophie reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. http://www.google.com/recaptcha Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16: reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. http://www.google.com/recaptcha Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail verification is mandatory before editing pages. Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, 2011/2/6 Florian Effenberger : > Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16: >> >> reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the >> generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. >> http://www.google.com/recaptcha >> >> Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? > > Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to > protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail > verification is mandatory before editing pages. > I remember that wiki.services.openoffice.org also got it's Captcha last year when the spam got to mouch. Maybe we can look over there and see what Clayton installed. It did not solve the problem to zero but to a manageable number. Bye Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 13:47 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/2/6 Florian Effenberger : > > Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16: > >> > >> reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the > >> generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. > >> http://www.google.com/recaptcha > >> > >> Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? > > > > Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to > > protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail > > verification is mandatory before editing pages. > > > I remember that wiki.services.openoffice.org also got it's Captcha > last year when the spam got to mouch. > Maybe we can look over there and see what Clayton installed. > It did not solve the problem to zero but to a manageable number. That's quite right - it will NOT drive it to zero, but in reality it works better on wiki then on forum as it seemd the human spamers tend to concentrate on forums/blogs and less so on wikis. > > Bye > > Volker > > > -- > ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 13:47 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/2/6 Florian Effenberger : > > Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16: > >> > >> reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the > >> generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. > >> http://www.google.com/recaptcha > >> > >> Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? > > > > Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to > > protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail > > verification is mandatory before editing pages. > > > I remember that wiki.services.openoffice.org also got it's Captcha > last year when the spam got to mouch. > Maybe we can look over there and see what Clayton installed. > It did not solve the problem to zero but to a manageable number. > One more piece of information here - there is a new trend i spam, it is showing up on lots of forums and I believe in this case wikis also and that is to only register an account with the service (forum/wik) when the profile for that service allows a URL for your personal website, and then to start using Twitter to point to your personal profile page on that site - this one is a real pain and OOoForum for instance has been hit hard by it. It is fairly new, last couple of years, and I don't really know how it is working for their goal, to get the link into the search engines, but since it is rising perhaps it works..anyway, just to let you know. //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, 2011/2/6 drew : > On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 13:47 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: >> 2011/2/6 Florian Effenberger : >> > Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16: >> >> >> >> reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the >> >> generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. >> >> http://www.google.com/recaptcha >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? >> > >> > Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to >> > protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail >> > verification is mandatory before editing pages. >> > >> I remember that wiki.services.openoffice.org also got it's Captcha >> last year when the spam got to mouch. >> Maybe we can look over there and see what Clayton installed. >> It did not solve the problem to zero but to a manageable number. >> > > One more piece of information here - there is a new trend i spam, it is > showing up on lots of forums and I believe in this case wikis also and > that is to only register an account with the service (forum/wik) when > the profile for that service allows a URL for your personal website, and > then to start using Twitter to point to your personal profile page on > that site - this one is a real pain and OOoForum for instance has been > hit hard by it. > > It is fairly new, last couple of years, and I don't really know how it > is working for their goal, to get the link into the search engines, but > since it is rising perhaps it works..anyway, just to let you know. > I made a dig in my mailarchive and found at that at OOo reCaptcha is used in combination with a Bad-behaviour-script http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Behavior Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 14:13 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: > I made a dig in my mailarchive and found at that at OOo reCaptcha is > used in combination with a Bad-behaviour-script > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Behavior Excellent - I was just abut to send an email to Clayton to ask. I agree with Sophie that these Captcha can be a pain, but unfortunately there is really no way around it, if you leave any door or window unguarded they seem to find it. They are like rats, if they can squeeze their snouts into a crack they can pull the rest of their body in. Best wishes, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, Am 06.02.2011 14:28, schrieb drew: > On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 14:13 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote: >> I made a dig in my mailarchive and found at that at OOo reCaptcha is >> used in combination with a Bad-behaviour-script >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Behavior > Excellent - I was just abut to send an email to Clayton to ask. > > I agree with Sophie that these Captcha can be a pain, but unfortunately > there is really no way around it, for this, we should *explain* this on the page with the captch if possible, to show people we are interested in their support/backup but we need to save us from spam. then everyone could accept it. Karl-Heinz -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Can you install it? :-) Manuel Schneider wrote on 2011-02-06 15.08: We've been using reCaptcha in the past, it works fine. -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Just do when you find time ;) Manuel Schneider wrote on 2011-02-06 15.11: Not right now, my computer just died so I don't have my SSH private key at hand. -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Not right now, my computer just died so I don't have my SSH private key at hand. Am 06.02.2011 15:08, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Can you install it? :-) Manuel Schneider wrote on 2011-02-06 15.08: We've been using reCaptcha in the past, it works fine. -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
We've been using reCaptcha in the past, it works fine. /Manuel Am 06.02.2011 13:24, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi, Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16: reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the generated passcode to be read aloud via audio. http://www.google.com/recaptcha Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha? Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail verification is mandatory before editing pages. Thanks, Florian -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On Sunday 06 February 2011 15:08, Manuel Schneider wrote: > We've been using reCaptcha in the past, it works fine. Please keep in mind that the Captcha should be installed only at user registration level, not for every single edit. (Sorry if this has been discussed already, I didn't read the archives.) Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Ok, I have restored my SSH key and got the login details from Flo, so I did some checks. User:Peacfata was NOT emailconfirmed! I have removed all the ConfirmEdit stuff from the configuration (an extension I have actually never seen in action before) and have instead put quite simple user privilege settings in place of which I know that they are working. Let's test these first before installing a captcha. As said we have been using reCaptcha before, but as far as I am concerned we have removed it from all our wikis a few years ago and we felt no need for it to come back yet. /Manuel Am 06.02.2011 15:12, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Just do when you find time ;) Manuel Schneider wrote on 2011-02-06 15.11: Not right now, my computer just died so I don't have my SSH private key at hand. -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hello Manuel, Manuel Schneider wrote on 2011-02-06 15.51: Ok, I have restored my SSH key and got the login details from Flo, so I did some checks. User:Peacfata was NOT emailconfirmed! WTF?! It normally should not be able to edit pages (at least outside of the userspace) when not e-mail confirmed. Very strange. I have removed all the ConfirmEdit stuff from the configuration (an extension I have actually never seen in action before) and have instead put quite simple user privilege settings in place of which I know that they are working. Let's test these first before installing a captcha. Thanks a lot for your work, Manuel! Much appreciated! Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, 2011/2/6 Manuel Schneider : > Ok, I have restored my SSH key and got the login details from Flo, so I did > some checks. > > User:Peacfata was NOT emailconfirmed! > > I have removed all the ConfirmEdit stuff from the configuration (an > extension I have actually never seen in action before) and have instead put > quite simple user privilege settings in place of which I know that they are > working. > > Let's test these first before installing a captcha. > > As said we have been using reCaptcha before, but as far as I am concerned we > have removed it from all our wikis a few years ago and we felt no need for > it to come back yet. > > We should reconsider this, as Sophie just had to delete spam pages from fresh registered users again. Sophie told me by IRC: "for one of the page you mentionned the user was (User creation log); 11:17:10 . . Xeniste (Talk | contribs | block) New user account and the page was created at 14:54:12" If there are other possibilities in tuning the site, please try. But we can't go on deleting that number of pages per day, that time could be used better. Bye Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On 09/02/11 00:45, Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi, 2011/2/6 Manuel Schneider: Ok, I have restored my SSH key and got the login details from Flo, so I did some checks. User:Peacfata was NOT emailconfirmed! I have removed all the ConfirmEdit stuff from the configuration (an extension I have actually never seen in action before) and have instead put quite simple user privilege settings in place of which I know that they are working. Let's test these first before installing a captcha. As said we have been using reCaptcha before, but as far as I am concerned we have removed it from all our wikis a few years ago and we felt no need for it to come back yet. We should reconsider this, as Sophie just had to delete spam pages from fresh registered users again. Sophie told me by IRC: "for one of the page you mentionned the user was (User creation log); 11:17:10 . . Xeniste (Talk | contribs | block) New user account and the page was created at 14:54:12" If there are other possibilities in tuning the site, please try. But we can't go on deleting that number of pages per day, that time could be used better. Bye Volker I don't believe there is any way to prevent spam entirely, but using Re/Captcha is a good step to weeding out a lot of the simple spammers. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Volker, *, On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: > 2011/2/6 Manuel Schneider : >> Ok, I have restored my SSH key and got the login details from Flo, so I did >> some checks. >> >> User:Peacfata was NOT emailconfirmed! >> >> [...] > > Sophie told me by IRC: "for one of the page you mentionned the user > was (User creation log); 11:17:10 . . Xeniste (Talk | contribs | > block) New user account and the page was created at 14:54:12" Xeniste has also not been emailconfirmed either. So if that hurdle isn't in action, then there's (IMHO) no real need for using recaptcha (unless the email-confirmation cannot be enforced in the short term). Of course if that hurdle is not enough to prevent spamming, then of course recaptcha should be added. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On 2011-02-06 4:16 AM, Mike Houben wrote: > their [1] is no CAPTCHA. We should consider to put a small CAPTCHA their. Just please don't use image captcha's... -10 to reCaptcha... Image captchas suck Use something like this: http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8743 -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Charles, *, On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2011-02-06 4:16 AM, Mike Houben wrote: >> their [1] is no CAPTCHA. We should consider to put a small CAPTCHA their. > > Just please don't use image captcha's... We're talking about a one-time check, when registering, not for each and every change. > -10 to reCaptcha... +20 for reCaptcha if any captcha is to be used at all. (I don't think it is necessary once email-confirmation is enforced before editing is allowed) reCaptcha is not only an image captcha, but can also be used with audio... If you can't read the first challenge, just request another one until you get an easy to read one. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On 09/02/11 05:42, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-06 4:16 AM, Mike Houben wrote: Just please don't use image captcha's... -10 to reCaptcha... Image captchas suck Use something like this: http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8743 Charles, I have used math captcha as you are suggesting. It doesn't work at all in my experience. Not sure if you are aware but computers are quite good at calculating math problems, usually better than humans. In my experience image captchas are the only ones that work and ReCaptcha allows users to 'request another' or 'read via audio' options for accessibility and inclusion of people who may not be very literate in English, IMO a very important factor in an international community. + googol to ReCaptcha. - 3 billion to math captcha Maybe a simple +1 would do :) Michael Wheatland -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, 2011/2/8 Christian Lohmaier : > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Volker Merschmann > wrote: >> 2011/2/6 Manuel Schneider : >>> Ok, I have restored my SSH key and got the login details from Flo, so I did >>> some checks. >>> >>> User:Peacfata was NOT emailconfirmed! >>> >>> [...] >> >> Sophie told me by IRC: "for one of the page you mentionned the user >> was (User creation log); 11:17:10 . . Xeniste (Talk | contribs | >> block) New user account and the page was created at 14:54:12" > > Xeniste has also not been emailconfirmed either. > > So if that hurdle isn't in action, then there's (IMHO) no real need > for using recaptcha (unless the email-confirmation cannot be enforced > in the short term). Of course if that hurdle is not enough to prevent > spamming, then of course recaptcha should be added. > We have to act QUICK now, the number of incoming pages is increasing fast: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=jobs&button= And this is only for that keyword. Whoever has the right to install the reCapthcha should do it NOW. Bye Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hello, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2011-02-09 10.14: We have to act QUICK now, the number of incoming pages is increasing fast:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=jobs&button= And this is only for that keyword. Whoever has the right to install the reCapthcha should do it NOW. honestly, I don't get why the spam comes in, as confirm to edit is enabled, so users without a confirmed mail address should not be able to edit at all. Anyways, I've just installed the captcha as described on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA - Manuel, if you have any better idea, please let me know. :-) Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
On 2011-02-08 10:16 PM, Michael Wheatland wrote: > I have used math captcha as you are suggesting. It doesn't work at > all in my experience. Not sure if you are aware but computers are > quite good at calculating math problems, usually better than humans. Same goes for image captchas... they don't work (in my experience) either. But as long as it is for registration only, I don't care so much... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
That seems to me to be very odd. Can I please have access to the database to investigate the situation? Am 9.2.2011 schrieb "Florian Effenberger" : >Hello, > >Volker Merschmann wrote on 2011-02-09 10.14: >> We have to act QUICK now, the number of incoming pages is increasing >> fast:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=jobs&button= >> And this is only for that keyword. >> >> Whoever has the right to install the reCapthcha should do it NOW. > >honestly, I don't get why the spam comes in, as confirm to edit is >enabled, so users without a confirmed mail address should not be able to >edit at all. > >Anyways, I've just installed the captcha as described on >http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA - Manuel, if you have >any better idea, please let me know. :-) > >Thanks, >Florian > >-- >Florian Effenberger >Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation >Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 >Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi Flo, *, On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Volker Merschmann wrote on 2011-02-09 10.14: >> >> We have to act QUICK now, the number of incoming pages is increasing >> >> fast:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=jobs&button= >> And this is only for that keyword. >> >> Whoever has the right to install the reCapthcha should do it NOW. > > honestly, I don't get why the spam comes in, as confirm to edit is enabled, > so users without a confirmed mail address should not be able to edit at all. Well "should" is the right word here - but none of the two spammers mentioned here does have "emailconfirmed" set. In fact, very, very few users do. (I don't for example, but I don't remember whether I had to click a link in my email or something). When using the "emailconfirmed" group in the user-list, it doesn't even return the few (Admins and Bürokraten) that are listed as emailconfirmed. Again: No other users that Admins/Buerocrats are listed as emailconfirmed, but not all Admins are emailconfirmed either (user Reinsle is not for example). So something is wrong here. > Anyways, I've just installed the captcha as described on > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA - Manuel, if you have any > better idea, please let me know. :-) As it apparently didn't work out, I start with the obvious: Did you use correct recaptcha api keys for doucmentfoundation.org? ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?
Hi, Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2011-02-09 14.18: Well "should" is the right word here - but none of the two spammers mentioned here does have "emailconfirmed" set. In fact, very, very few users do. (I don't for example, but I don't remember whether I had to click a link in my email or something). hm... Volker Merschmann tested this out with a test user - without email confirmation, this user could not edit any page. Is there maybe another field that marks email confirmation, and the one you mentioned just talks about the group membership? IIRC, Manuel told that the group membership for emailconfirmed is determined on the fly, which is why we don't see anything in the database. As it apparently didn't work out, I start with the obvious: Did you use correct recaptcha api keys for doucmentfoundation.org? Yes. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
