Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Forums Proposal

2012-10-07 Thread Joel Madero
Instead of replying one by one I'm just going to tackle all of my 
opinions at the same time :)


It was discussed quite a bit about why we would want a contributor 
section of the forum. This is not a mandate for people to move from 
mailing list to forum, actually it's almost the complete opposite. What 
this would do is allow people who traditionally have only used forums 
(this would have included myself until just a few months back), to get 
involved. This is a way to become more open to users who don't qualify 
as "power users" yet have a means to contribute. Minimal moderation 
would be needed in this section as we would expect that this is where 
"the real business" gets done, yet what I imagine is that if there is a 
discussion between two users in the contributor section (that rightly 
belongs in the contributor section) and we think that other devs might 
like reading it, we could then ask the new users to start a mailing list 
thread. This would be a duplication of work BUT it would also encourage 
and support a new group of contributors.


As of now LibO is WAY under "staffed" (meaning we could probably double 
our developer numbers and 5x our QA numbers, let alone our UX, website, 
etc... teams) and still have room to have more people involved. A forum 
is a perfect way to encourage this.


In terms of moderating these, the one thing that we would do is help 
users get comfortable with gerrit & the mailing list when submitting 
patches. We could also have users themselves who have programming 
experience but aren't developing help new devs out in the forum.


My vote is to maintain the list of sections as is. It's up to our team 
(moderation and co-coordinators) to make sure that the mailing list and 
forum work in unison, and I personally don't see this being a problem at 
all.



Regards,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Forums Proposal

2012-10-07 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

so, indeed, I remember vastly that we have been spinning ideas around 
that, but honestly, I lost the plot on this. That's why I was kind of 
surprised now. ;)


So, of course, I see no problem with asking on the various lists, but I 
ask to be careful with how we handle the responses. To be honest, I am 
really a bit scared that we eventually might end up with two marketing 
channels (forum+list), two website channels and the like, effectively 
killing the communities workflow. I am *really* scared about that, 
otherwise I would not write so.


Let's wait for the feedback from the various groups and then see where 
we stand. The fear I have are of course my personal ones and not 
binding, but I usually can trust my gut feeling... :-)


Florian

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