Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Le 13/11/2010 17:43, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Jean-Baptiste, * On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote: If you create a form with a date field with today default value, you can see that there is a confusion between the month and the day : today is Nov. 12 and the field says Dec. 11. Examples : http://fr.test.libreoffice.org/formulaire-de-contact/ and http://de.test.libreoffice.org/kontakt/ I updated the code to force the date to ISO-format (-MM-DD) thus the problem should no longer occur, and the user will not be confused anymore on how to interpret the date either. I also updated silverstripe to the current release (move from 2.4.2 to 2.4.3) ciao Christian Hi Christian, Thank you very much JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Le 13/11/2010 00:31, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Jean-Baptiste, thanks for the feedback On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote: If you create a form with a date field with today default value, you can see that there is a confusion between the month and the day : today is Nov. 12 and the field says Dec. 11. Examples : http://fr.test.libreoffice.org/formulaire-de-contact/ and http://de.test.libreoffice.org/kontakt/ It's not the wrong date, it just uses a bad/confusing format (DD/MM/) so it mixes german/european ordering with US/american delimiter. Today it should b e clear, as not it defaults to 13/11/2011 - and there is no month number 13 :-) You can also verify by clicking on the entry box to open the calendar to choose But yes, there is a mixup between internal value and then what the from expects as input. Yes you are right. From my side it was only to try this type of form field. Nevertheless, SilverStripe should not try to write the date with the name of the month. Best regards JBF -- Seuls des formats ouverts peuvent assurer la pérennité de vos documents. -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Sorry Christan, I am confused as to what top posting is. And I totally agree with Marc that we should be using ISO formats. The format including delimiters for the ISO8601:2004 standard is: 2003-04-01T13:01:02 Meaning 1st April 2003 at Time 13:01:02 As Marc suggested we should avoid using other date formats. -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Hi Michael, On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: I am confused as to what top posting is. http://idallen.com/topposting.html ciao Christian -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Ah, I use Gmail and it handles all of the quoting by and large. It only displays a -show quoted text- link anywhere in the mail whenever something is quoted. It is a very good system for highlighting new content while allowing access to old quoted info if it is relevant. I am not sure which other clients have this functionality, but attemting to force every new person to change the way they handle email is clearly not possible and might put them off contributing to the community. I will try to avoid top posting in the future, but I can't promise anything for other new mailing list users. Might I suggest looking at your mail clients features in order to handle this peeve of others email formatting methods. Mike -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Hi Jean-Baptiste, * On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote: If you create a form with a date field with today default value, you can see that there is a confusion between the month and the day : today is Nov. 12 and the field says Dec. 11. Examples : http://fr.test.libreoffice.org/formulaire-de-contact/ and http://de.test.libreoffice.org/kontakt/ I updated the code to force the date to ISO-format (-MM-DD) thus the problem should no longer occur, and the user will not be confused anymore on how to interpret the date either. I also updated silverstripe to the current release (move from 2.4.2 to 2.4.3) ciao Christian -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
Hi Jean-Baptiste, thanks for the feedback On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@orange.fr wrote: If you create a form with a date field with today default value, you can see that there is a confusion between the month and the day : today is Nov. 12 and the field says Dec. 11. Examples : http://fr.test.libreoffice.org/formulaire-de-contact/ and http://de.test.libreoffice.org/kontakt/ It's not the wrong date, it just uses a bad/confusing format (DD/MM/) so it mixes german/european ordering with US/american delimiter. Today it should b e clear, as not it defaults to 13/11/2011 - and there is no month number 13 :-) You can also verify by clicking on the entry box to open the calendar to choose But yes, there is a mixup between internal value and then what the from expects as input. But having the datefield on there doesn't really make sense, as the date of submission is stored anyway. And what sense would it have to let a user specify another date than the current date when giving feedback? Also the forms don't make use of the spam protector field, that would add a recaptcha (this might be on purpose, but in case there will be problem with spam, remember that there is the possibility to add a recaptcha) So just remove that field for now. ciao Christian -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] SilverStripe : wrong date in form field
How is DD/MM/ a confusing format? The vast majority of the world uses this format including the delimiter. - Little endian form Going from smallest time increment to largest makes sense, it is consistent in increment sizes ascending. At work we often use /MM/DD going from the largest to the smallest, that way there is even consistancy in the hours and minutes in decreasing in increment. - Big endian form. Confusing would be any of these examples as they are not ascending or descending. DD//MM MM/DD/ MM//DD See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#Little_endian_forms.2C_starting_with_the_day It doesn't mix any formats. The format and delimiter IS the standard. P.S. It's not German ordering. See the wikipedia article on the origins. Michael Wheatland On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote: It's not the wrong date, it just uses a bad/confusing format (DD/MM/) so it mixes german/european ordering with US/american delimiter. Today it should b e clear, as not it defaults to 13/11/2011 - and there is no month number 13 :-) -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
