Re: FAS - Do we need it to be translated ?
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 11:36:00AM +0300, Valentin Laskov wrote: Hi all, Do we need Fedora Account System website to be translated? The official language for contributing is english. Even though contributors are expected to interact in English, maybe some people will understand things better when important resources are in their native language? I don't see that it hurts to have FAS localized, for that reason. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpc8UBkAiV8c.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Wiki permissions?
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 04:45:36PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 09:37 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:49:06 +0100 Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote: Hey, My FAS name is hadess, and it seems I'm not allowed to edit this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation/Bluetooth because it's protected. Seeing as I wrote the whole thing, would you mind explaining why I'm not allowed to edit it? Strange. I don't see it as protected here... and you had an edit on the 1st? Did you get this working? Seems to work now. I guess it keeps logging me out without me realising... If you drop the 's' from 'https', which can happen with a history link or an inbound link written that way, then you are no longer logged in. The wiki only serves logged in pages over HTTPS. Signing in solves the problem, but simply adding an 's' to 'http' and reloading the page does the same. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpjEIi5pSQxX.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Wiki permissions?
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 10:49:06AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: Hey, My FAS name is hadess, and it seems I'm not allowed to edit this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation/Bluetooth because it's protected. Seeing as I wrote the whole thing, would you mind explaining why I'm not allowed to edit it? Looks like you got editing to work? I don't think we normally protect pages because we don't really have anonymous editing on the wiki. It might have been protected by accident? I don't see any spammer activity in the history ... - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpxrdXk1RugK.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Fedora Planet
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 10:05:23PM +, Luke Sheldrick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Luke, Thanks for your post. I'm replying with my scant knowledge and opinion; this email address goes to a team of folks, most of whom have way more knowledge than me, as well as more worthy opinions, so read my reply as just some thoughts on the situation. Anyway you guys can filter the planet, maybe a separate RSS feed, for just English blogs? The Fedora planet is self-service, in that contributors add themselves to the one planet. It seems to me that we would have to go back to each person to identify a separate, language-specific planet in their configuration. Otherwise, we'd have to write some automagic in the planet application to detect languages? So, we could create an English only planet/feed and ask that people add themselves to that, as well. It would grow slowly over time. Some people who write in multiple languages in a single post could use for their English containing posts. But it looks to be a lot of work to do a split manually without contributor intervention. Most other planets have dedicated foreign language planets, whilst I don't totally agree with this, I'm also spending a lot of time skipping past blogs I can't read on the Fedora Planet... Just as a point of difference, I enjoy the multiple languages and seeing what others are up to even if I can't read the post. Often I can get a gist of what the subject is about, from personal photography to an app review. Sometimes I see a post that looks interesting enough to get auto-translated for further reading. From previous discussions of this topic, there are people who are put-off by the multiple languages, and there are those who are not. Short of adding automagic language filtering in planet itself, I don't see a way to make both groups happy. We're already pretty far down the pathway we have now, so we have to ponder if it's worth the non-trivial effort? - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgplx1S0Hw337.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: fpo allowed programming\coding?
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 06:33:22PM +0100, Kévin Raymond wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: What languages are allowed on fp.o Not the wiki, the main html pages? What do you mean? I think Frank is asking about programming languages. The Infrastructure has the final say, I think, because they have to secure and support whatever we put on there. However, Website developer preferences have influenced Infrastructure. Python is generally preferred; we have several PHP apps now; we may have a few other small bits out there. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpYp0PeKtW1E.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Change Contributors to Wiki?
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:50:17AM -0600, Jesús Franco wrote: I just wonder why we are using a wiki targeted to encyclopaedia development, not for documentation, as DokuWIki is. Lots of history to that answer, and I think it is off-topic for this discussion. It does sound as if we have some momentum to work on a knowledgebase (kbase) solution. There are many, many, many ways to provide that functionality. Perhaps a new discussion thread on this list is a good place to start? Then we could work on requirements and see how well solutions such as DokuWiki fit. I think it is the purview of the Websites team to choose what application provides the best functionality for the intended audience(s), in discussion with the Infrastructure team to make sure the solution can be supported. Sound about right? - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpn0ufQnArXi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Fwd: Re: Fedora 14 AMIs
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 06:48:10PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 18:39 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 11:48 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: 1). Giant image at the top of the page saying The perfect 10 is here! 2). Single simple paragraph explaining what it is, and why you want it. 3). Very prominent link at the *top of the page* to the download. To say nothing of the Why settle for Cloud 9 when you can have Cloud 10, giving people a free hour of EC2 and making it really easy. Why, exactly, are we not doing exactly all of these things and more? One answer is simple -- because you and other people who care didn't do it. We[1] clearly need to do some work to get the Red Hat teams working on cloud initatives interacting with the Fedora Cloud SIG. Via the SIG, they connect to Marketing and Websites to get campaigns such as that set up. For any equivalent campaign around a feature of Fedora, we'll need someone who has budget to contribute to it. There isn't a large slush fund that a Fedora brain trust pulls from for Great Ideas. Fedora Marketing, Design, and Websites aren't directly run by Red Hat. That means there isn't any automatic, behind-the-scenes, secret-hallway work to make sure that Cool Things being done by Red Hat Fedora are highlighted. For example, F14 AMIs are a feature and need to include in the feature plan, Get a splashy link on the front page, if that's part of the development team's needs for this feature. Personally, I know our team at Red Hat is very interested in building interfaces between the Cloud/RHEV teams and the Fedora Cloud SIG. I know the Engineering teams want to do this. Sorry for the missed opportunity, what can we do from _here_ to make things better, and it definitely is a we. - Karsten [1] Jon, I don't know if you are on any of the teams, but the We has to include initiative from the working parts of Engineering to engage 100% with the Fedora release marketing machine. If you are passionate about this but not on those teams, please help encourage those folks to be more active in the community processes. Any questions on how to conduct, we have a handbook: http://theopensourceway.org/wiki -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpmTEgq9qieJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Fedora 14 AMIs
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 05:32:57PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: I left out and should have started by saying I LOVE THE NEW WEBSITE. And thanks for answering my question. If we learned things from the way we did the site in this release that can help us next release, it all worked out fine in my book :) The iterative work on the website, combined with the iterative growth (experience, size) of the Websites team throughout, is a picture-perfect example of how to do EVERYTHING the open source way. And mistakes/lessons are 100% part of the open source way. :) - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpk55ArtCoaM.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Change Contributors to Wiki?
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 10:50:45PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: I think users who aren't contributors would be better served by a knowledgebase than the wiki... I mean, here's some common first-time user questions that have been raised in my Girl Scouts class and the wiki results: Well put, yes, we're using the wiki for a purpose that could be better served by a knowledgebase.[1] That would be a mighty interesting project - migrate all using-Fedora-the-distro content off the wiki and in to a kbase. What I meant by reworking the front page of the wiki is more than a splash page, just a bit less than right now: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Quaid/Two_prong_wiki_main_page I see the wisdom of what has been done on the front page with the wiki in the state that it currently is. - Karsten [1] Kbase or whatever it is: important that it's easy to create articles, easy to categorize, easy to cross-link to other relevant articles, etc. The Docs Project toolchain is not so easy to use. Although the guides are gaining in breadth and depth, there are always going to be matters of time, brevity, and scale that need to be served by a $small_article_machine. The latter could be a wiki, another type of CMS, a kbase, etc. Right now, it's the wiki. -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpJI9NY9QuLN.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Change Contributors to Wiki?
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 11:42:52PM +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: I don't know if Wiki Gardening is enough of a solution, bulldozing or perhaps tactical nukes might be more effective options. A kbase-type solution is probably what's needed - something that encourages a growing body of short, useful, topical, categorized, cross-linked, version-specific, easy to watch, maintain, and retire ... I just haven't had the *umph* to spearhead that one. Maybe we'll get it via backdoor, such as if we have gain Drupal expertise in Infrastructure and they want to support a kbase module or somesuch. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpq2TLEKfOph.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Websites Frozen
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 06:01:25PM +0200, Elad wrote: 2010/11/1 Sijis Aviles si...@fedoraproject.org: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Adam Pribyl pri...@lowlevel.cz wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Sijis Aviles wrote: All, The following websites are frozen: - fedoraproject.org - start.fedoraproject.org - spins.fedoraproject.org This means that any website translations for these sites will not get published until release day. I've submited cs translation yesterday to Transifex, but as updates of the site are done only once a day (correct me if I am wrong), that means the site remains in semi translated state...:( The updates are actually done hourly. The English version updates hourly. The translations updates daily. Does the freeze mean that we shouldn't manually update the translations? I presume someone can manually, from the command line, update the translations more often than daily? Just for a few days, could we arrange a few extra update times for l10n? Or does that put the site stability at risk around the release? - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgp44HBa8m3iv.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Change Contributors to Wiki?
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:18:35PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:41 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: What if Contributors went to a specific page on the wiki, such as https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join , and a Wiki link went to the wiki front page? I'm really sorry, but I'm not comfortable with this suggestion at all. As pointed out earlier, a link that says Wiki is like a link that says Drupal to take me to x website or a link that says IRC to take me to a chat or Ford Festiva to take me to Salisbury Beach. I'd rather the destination/purpose, not the method, be the label. Right, that's fine; like Ian, I was mainly pointing out that the wiki[1] is (at least) dual-purpose, so putting a link to it's front-page might come from two different purposes. What is the front page of the wiki as a destination? Considering what is now on the real front page, the top bits of the wiki front page looks repetitive. Perhaps it should be trimmed to the two identified purposes and make the gateways clear: end-user tutorials[2] and pages for contributors-by-contributors. The latter would be where to link Contributors from the fp.o front page. Then we link to those two gateway pages instead of the front page of the wiki. Otherwise, the _only_ reason I can see to link to /wiki directly is to say, Here is our wiki, loveable mess that it is. (Read below for my argument that a wiki is not just a technology.) - Karsten [1] Somewhat OT: On your point about wiki == a technology, I think it is more than just a technology brand/type (as Drupal is a brand/type of CMS.) It also means a certain type of highly successful open community documentation and collaboration. A wiki is a kind of content management solution that works in a certain way that is different from all other types of CMS as to be a category of it's own. People _do_ come looking to contribute to the wiki: as a generic noun. The technology has surpassed being just a type of IT solution. [2] For example, it might be useful to (clean-up and) link to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Documentation as a documentation help source. -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpRQ5LuF8aX8.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Change Contributors to Wiki?
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 04:37:00PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 06:05:42PM -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote: Karsten, I think you are right on track with what is going on here. There just isn't a way to define all the things the wiki represent in a single word. I do agree with M ir n that using the word wiki is not insightful, as it is just a technology. Now, to stir things up I do like the word Contributors vs Wiki and i do think there isn't a way to describe Wiki in 1 word... however, i was poking around and seeing what 'word' would best describe what the wiki is and i found the word: participants. I thought the definition of it was sorta interesting based on what has been discussed. I think it's more along the lines of Community contributed documentation. As it happens, that is exactly what the word wiki means to many people. It is both a methodology and an instance of the technology behind the method. The reason we have two broad categories of content on the wiki is we have two broad activities going on: work to make the distro come out every six months, and work to help our community use the distro to best effect. So, the wiki is the documentation our community contributes to. Anyway, at the moment, having Contributors go to the main page of the wiki is pretty unbroken. What is broken is that once there, it is confusing what to do with that page. Perhaps with a realignment so that page does this: 1. Points to fp.o to answer all the what is Fedora questions; 2. Points to a user-help gateway page + links to common help topics; 3. Points to a contributor-help gateway page + displays sub-projects; 4. Points to [[Join]] w/ some why care language; 5. I guess the Links of interest is OK helpful? - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpspbPkSYYq1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Introduction and new, exploring contributors
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 12:52:55AM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: This is complete awesomeness. Brother Jon speaks my mind, aka, +1. What tasks do folks need to accomplish? I think that the majority of people coming to the site are going to want to see what Fedora can do, sort of like a showcase of sorts. From there, they should be able to easily download the distribution, and be able to join as a contributor. I want to offer some ideas of what we want to showcase where it comes to users *and* contributors. I have an idea that where a user is going to be happiest is with a Linux distro that has a community whose values and practices most closely resemble the user's own. When it comes to Fedora, I think of this in my mind as, Do you mind the occasional bit of masking tape and unfinished trim around the doorways? We'll fix it next week, or certainly by next release! Those more comfortable users are, I reckon, more likely to become participants and contributors ... more likely to hear that increased on-boarding message and respond to it ... of they already love the community that makes the distro. More on the masking tape theory here, with the tape being the way we marked columns on the walls for scheduling at a FUDCon. http://iquaid.org/2009/10/30/how-to-choose-a-community-difference-moment/ Is there a way that we can showcase Fedora so that is shows these values from the community members? What is missing that should be there? What content should we focus on producing? Is there some clever way to question people and determine how Fedora could work for them? I took this the other day ... http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ ... the Linud Distribution Chooser. I can't be sure how the system works and what it takes to game it, how accurate it is for people, etc. Do I take it as a good or a bad sign that they include Fedora Core in the list if distros they test against? Their may be prejudice coded in there, and looking behind the code would be interesting ... for someone who is not me and can understand what it is doing and if we can learn from it, reuse it, etc. Indirectly, yes. A recent study[2] of the Fedora community found that 74% of our contributors started out as users. Some salient quotes from that also explained that these users didn't know that they could become contributors, I think owing to the fact that they thought that hardcore kernel development was required or something of the sort - i.e. an educational problem that it's not widely known that we need people other than developers to put together a distro :) We've long presumed that was the case, that people arrive by being consumers, then participate, then contribute. We definitely need more help in attracting the type of users who will have the closest enough fit with the type of community. I'm not interested in coding for a stale community type. This is an area of social science I don't know a bit about, but I'm curious. Is there an urban-type different from a suburban-type and rural-type? Mountain versus ocean? What about personal ethics? Organizational beliefs? Seeing as how I seem to see all types across all projects, maybe it is truly random and the community values don't matter as much in attracting a well-rounded contributor base. These are the things I've been wondering about, and they may be still too esoteric for a class to have anything to do with. But if there is something with pondering in the sharing, good. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpa4aTbfE4WL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Who is in charge here?
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 08:02:02PM -0700, Cal Schuler wrote: I have worked my way through one of your servers and ended up at this site with a thousand links. I am getting spam from someone using one of your servers. It appears that it may be too complex for anyone to do anything about it, but I am attaching the email I received. Please try to put this person out of business!! Cal Schuler Cal: While I can't see what you are seeing, I have a guess as to why you are contacting the webmas...@fedoraproject.org address. Because our software is freely available (no-cost and full-of-freedom), it might be used by a spam or phishing website. If they have set up a server running Fedora, it might be displaying the Fedora Test Page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server_Test_Page There is a screenshot on that page, looks like this: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/86/ServerTestPage_httpd_test_page.png If that is what you have seen, I'm sorry to tell you there is nothing we can do about it. Your best best is to either contact your Internet service provider (ISP) or the ISP of the offending website. Your ISP should have a spam fighting solution installed that you can use, and you may want to use an email client such as Thunderbird that can learn and protect against spam (to a limited degree.) Contacting the ISP of the membres.multimania.fr website is another good idea. I did a check on who owns that domain name, and this is the information that came up -- they would be the people to contact about troublesome websites on their network: From http://whois.domaintools.com/multimania.fr it is probably one of the type: PERSON contact blocks, such as: nic-hdl: JT1544-FRNIC type:PERSON contact: Julien Toupart address: 17, avenue Gambetta address: 24200 Sarlat-la-Canéda country: FR phone: +33 5 53 29 23 48 e-mail: admin...@gmail.com Good luck. -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpmHHa1xQNHg.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: planet doesn't publish my blog
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 06:50:34PM +0300, Ionuț Arțăriși wrote: Hi, I've had my blog published on the Planet Fedora for a long time now, but for the last two weeks my posts have stopped appearing. I haven't changed anything in my setup. The feed I'm using is this: http://mapleoin.bluepink.ro/tag/fedora.xml Today's post should be on the planet, but it isn't. What could the problem be? I don't know what the problem nor solution could be, but I can confirm that I don't see your blog in the Fedora Planet RSS feed (via liferea.) The RSS feed at the above URL is loading, and your information on planet.fedoraproject.org looks fine. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpvufHRqf72o.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Self-introduction email
2010/8/6 Miguel Sánchez de León Peque msdeleonpe...@gmail.com: That's why I'm just offering my services as Spanish translator. Lets see if I change my mind after a while... ;-) This is an important job, and something that is very much needed. If we can do the hard work for a short time -- the work of growing experienced teams in native languages who learn through translation tools and translators -- we can plant the seeds in many countries to grow stronger Fedora technical presence. About 2.5 years ago Greg Dekoenigsberg hacked together a bot to auto-translate an IRC channel through Google translation tools in real time in to a secondary IRC channel. He did this for Spanish and Portuguese, iirc, and it worked well enough for him to get business done with Ambassadors in South America. There was some additional work done by John McLean, but it's been pretty much static for the 2 years: https://fedorahosted.org/lingobot/ What I'm imagining is a secondary channel e.g. #fedora-meeting-en where a bot outputs the lines from #fedora-meeting-es after translation. English readers read there. (Not sure yet in this scheme where Spanish readers go for translations from English.) Translators can be in the secondary channels and help to figure out the hard stuff, the parts that didn't translate well - explain idioms, longer terms, etc. This way English-only reading mentors can assist new people in a different language. Even an entire channel can be translated and logged during the day, and a Websites mentor can go through the log once a day, ask the translator some questions, and send back some advice in to the channel. Much like we do right now in single-language channels. I'm bringing this idea here because I think the Websites team is the best place to try this out. People here are technical enough to work with an experimental technology and gain from it. The skills needed to contribute to Websites are more common than for Infrastructure (for example), and the skills represent the kind of job skills people are trying to learn throughout the world - Python, Django, JavaScript, JSON, user interactive design, etc. (I could be wrong and perhaps Infrastructure is another great place to try this out, I just happen to notice the traffic here.) Also, we seem to be getting more and more people from Asia and South America who are interested in working on the Websites team. I think our success in building teams in North America, Europe, and the other English speaking countries is because of the common language. If we can get a critical mass of native-speaking contributors in Chinese, Spanish, Portugeuse, Russian, Greek, Swahili, Indic langs, you name the language ... each critical mass pushes the door open wider for a healthy contributor community to arise in countries that speak those languages. - Karsten PS - I just noticed this, which may be useful in a back channel for English to Indic scripts: https://fedorahosted.org/iTranslit/ FUEL could be used somehow, for example, if a bot could search for specific phrases and use the FUEL database to translate it, then send the rest to Google translator: https://fedorahosted.org/fuel/ -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgp60q3EcGJDx.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: OTish wiki user page
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 04:15:24PM -0400, Ian Weller wrote: On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 08:05:31PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: Can I use normal html on th euser wiki page, No, this is a design philosophy of MediaWiki which we have decided to keep (not hack around). Allowing HTML opens up a minefield of determining what tags are permitted and what are not. Frank: Have you tried creating a page in HTML, then having one of us help convert it to wiki syntax? Aside from the learning value, there may be something you are trying to convey that isn't (yet) conveyable in the wiki. Then some of us could help build the templates, etc., to do it the MediaWiki-way, and the rest of the community would have access to the new functionality. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgp4jMP4oRFst.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Certain Wiki Pages are Service Unavailable
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:39:02PM +0700, Andi Sugandi wrote: Hello Fedora Web Master, I tried to download some presentations from this wiki page[0], but those are Service Unavailable[1], like: http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d5/Fedora_release_event.odp Sorry about the inconvenience, there was a service outage yesterday: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2010-July/002844.html That was likely the cause of your problem; I am able to access the page you linked to above, so I'm hoping all is working again for you. Thanks for your support of Fedora. I hope you get some time to write a blog post about your event for the Fedora Planet, we'd all enjoy hearing about it. cheers - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpCOIbjXxCkn.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Broken Link on - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Usability
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:23:50AM +0100, mitch hamer wrote: The GNOME Human Interface Guidelines Link is broken it should be http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/ Just to let you know :) Thanks Mitch. I also wanted to encourage you to make an account on the wiki and fix these kinds of things yourself. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Editing It's many little fixes and pushes that add up, thanks again for yours in whatever way you want to contribute it. cheers - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpAWLDnR8OsS.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Errors
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:23:26AM -0500, Sijis Aviles wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but where in the page are you referring to? In Screenshot.png, there is a small, yellow box in the middle of the page highlighting three characters. I'm guessing those are an incorrect translation? Oh, no, wait ... I'm wrong ... I don't see it pointed out. Is the content incorrect on the page? I guessed the URL for this page from the screenshot: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#architecture ... and the yellow box actually belongs there. So, perhaps it is the red text that are the corrections? I think it would help if we involved the translation team for that language. Uh, sorry ... which language is it? -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpTDG00n98z3.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: corrupted bind 9.7 source rpm
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 05:32:36PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Piet Barber p...@pietbarber.com wrote: The file that I find here: ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/13/Fedora/source/SRPMS/bind-9.7.0-9.P1.fc13.src.rpm ...with the following hashes: pbar...@fail-land:~/Desktop$ md5sum bind-9.7.0-9.P1.fc13.src.rpm be180028b90b34c3b9538fe8ebae64ac bind-9.7.0-9.P1.fc13.src.rpm pbar...@fail-land:~/Desktop$ sha1sum bind-9.7.0-9.P1.fc13.src.rpm 226ccf3f9f930d9dbc0807dee26153b93d6b9e19 bind-9.7.0-9.P1.fc13.src.rpm pbar...@fail-land:~/Desktop$ What version of Fedora or Red Hat are you using to install this package? I was able to install the RPM with those checksums on a Fedora 12 system without problems. Isn't the problem that Piet is checking the files with md5 and sha1 hashes, but it's actually sha256? It's snipped from this email, but the original showed a header with SHA256. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpfFiXnWVK4S.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Possible bug; update
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:12:23AM -0700, Ian MacGregor wrote: Disregard the previous message regarding the possible bug at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreenodeCloaks . It seems the difference was that I was typing in http and not https. Welcome to the club; that confused me for several weeks after we moved to MediaWiki. :) (We found the behavior after I reported it as a bug, too.) One interesting thing is that the HTTP is aggressively cached, while HTTPS is not. This is one reason we give out only HTTP URLs in announcements, etc., so it doesn't slam the app servers. If you ever update a wiki page with a crucial item that needs updating in the cache immediately, you can ask on #fedora-admin for that. It's only come up one time for me that I recall, but it was sure worth knowing that. :) - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpRxF054BBwu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Fedora 13 and KDevelop - KDEVelop 4.0 released on May 1
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 04:01:34PM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: On 05/03/2010 03:03 PM, Patterson, Andrew M. wrote: Dear Fedora Team, KDevelop 4.0 was released on May 1, 2010. I am suggesting that your team build the latest of Stable KDE with the bugfixes and deploy KDevelop 4.4.2. It will be included. Also, if you are interested in KDE and Fedora, the special interest group (SIG) is very active. You can find out how to communicate directly and participate here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE (Just a note that we use the webmaster@ address for email about problems with Fedora Project websites, so feel free to use the SIG communication methods in the future.) Thanks for your interest! - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgprzCxzJAv4I.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
Re: Wiki CSS change to pre
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:22:31AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: It's made the wiki *way* more readable on pages like this one: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_fix_bugs_on_the_Fedora_Project_website Clever to use ol for the list, hadn't thought of that to get around the way pre breaks the wiki # list mechanism. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team:Red Hat Community Architecture uri: http://TheOpenSourceWay.org/wiki gpg: AD0E0C41 pgpEuxfYTnExJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites
