Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  closed
 Priority:  major|   Milestone:
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:  worksforme
 Keywords:   |  Blocked By:
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Changes (by robyduck):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => worksforme


Comment:

 Wow I totally missed this. I think it's all fine now, if we can do
 anything feel free to reopen it on pagure.

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  major|   Milestone:
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
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Comment (by immanetize):

 https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Multiboot_Guide/BOOT-
 BIOS_or_UEFI.html might cover the relevant points.  I'll probably have it
 updated for F23 by GA.

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  major|   Milestone:
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
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Changes (by robyduck):

 * milestone:  Fedora 21 =>
 * priority:  critical => major


Comment:

 Could you give us an update for this task?

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  critical |   Milestone:  Fedora 21
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
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Comment (by immanetize):

 Robert and I talked about this on IRC; I'm going to write an article for
 docs.fp.o that can be linked from the website.

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  critical |   Milestone:  Fedora 21
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
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Comment (by immanetize):

 This is definitely a topic that should be addressed in the Installation
 Guide, and we are drafting a Multiboot Guide as well. Both of these will
 give detail and context.  When the multiboot-guide is published, it might
 even be a good idea to link to it from the website as well - but that's
 for another day.

 For the Website, a very simple admonition should be sufficient.  What
 about a bubble with something like:

 "For best results using Fedora with other operating systems, be
 consistent.  Do not disable UEFI to install Fedora if your computer is
 preinstalled with an operating system that uses UEFI.

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  critical |   Milestone:  Fedora 21
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
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Comment (by cydrobolt):

 People rarely read the installation guide, though. I personally think this
 should be put as a splash in Anaconda.

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  critical |   Milestone:  Fedora 21
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
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Comment (by robyduck):

 I may be wrong, but isn't that something which goes under an Installation
 Guide? We don't have the Installation Guide on the websites, but we have a
 link, for example, to [http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-
 US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/Making_USB_Media.html To install
 Fedora using a USB stick, follow these instructions].

 IMO we provide the images and tell people what to do with them, but not
 how to install them on different machines, with specific configurations or
 other Operating Systems. That should be topics to put in the Installation
 Guide (and we link to it too).

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Re: [fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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 Reporter:  immanetize   |   Owner:  webmaster
 Type:  enhancement  |  Status:  new
 Priority:  critical |   Milestone:  Fedora 21
Component:  get.fp.o |  Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Blocked By:
 Blocking:   |
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Comment (by cydrobolt):

 Totally agree with immanetize. The issue actually occurred to me once. I
 had to wipe the disk and restart from scratch.

 The download-splash would be the logical place to put a warning; but it
 doesn't seem like a place it would fit in. We can put it under the link,
 but it would look a bit awkward. We would also place a link to "please
 read me" under the download link.

 What do you think? We could have a question saying "are you using an UEFI
 system? (are you dual-booting with Windows 8.x?)", then use jQuery to
 slide down a notice about being consistent with BIOS/UEFI.

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[fedora-websites] #274: UEFI consistency warning

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#274: UEFI consistency warning
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  Reporter:  immanetize   |  Owner:  webmaster
  Type:  enhancement  | Status:  new
  Priority:  critical |  Milestone:  Fedora 21
 Component:  get.fp.o |   Keywords:
Blocked By:   |   Blocking:
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 Please add a prominent warning advising users to be consistent in their
 usage of UEFI or CSM (BIOS) style installation when booting multiple
 operating systems.  Whether by misconception, firmware quirks, poor media
 creation tools, or accident, users have been consistently reporting issues
 with booting their Windows installations after installing Fedora.  I have
 observed that a significant number of these issues relate to the user
 "disabling UEFI" to install Fedora, then discovering that their UEFI
 installation of Windows no longer boots.  Browse through
 ask.fedoraproject.org for Windows related questions, and you'll see how
 prevalent these issues are.

 There is documentation under development to further explain the issues
 involved, but it would be hugely beneficial to have a simple warning to be
 consistent displayed when the Fedora image is downloaded.  Maybe in
 download-splash?

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