Re: [Marketing] Re: [Developer-portal] Re: Preparing a new release of Fedora Developer Portal - asking for feedback

2016-04-30 Thread Justin W. Flory 
Hi all,

The Fedora Globalization (G11n) team would probably be the best points
of contact for this. I'm not sure on the specifics, but I believe Zanata
is the tool that would be needed.

I am including the G11n list on this reply. More info at the following
links:

* Wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N
* IRC: #fedora-g11n
* Mailing list:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n.lists.fedoraproject.org/
* Zanata: http://fedora.zanata.org/

Hope this helps.

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On 04/28/2016 07:45 AM, Petr Hracek wrote:
> Hi Jean-Baptiste,
> 
> it seems, we have first candidate for translation [1].
> Especially Spanish.
> Although I have mentioned, Fedora Developer Portal should be only in
> English, I have to be more open.
> 
> In case, folks are interested to have portal in several languages we
> have to do it. Definitely.
> 
> You mentioned tools like Zanata and Fedora Foundation.
> 
> Whom shall we contact?
> 
> What should be next steps for initiate translation Fedora Developer
> Portal to other languages.
> Like Czech;)
> 
> Shall we create a ticket somewhere?
> 
> [1] https://github.com/developer-portal/content/issues/131
> 
> On 04/22/2016 12:26 PM, Jean-Baptiste wrote:
>> Quote : "Out of the six billion people in the world, only 339 million
>> have English as a first language [3]."
>> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/translate-fedora-24-in-your-language/
>>
>> Most programming languages are english based, because it's presently
>> the easiest language to collaborate. They are still thousands of
>> website that explain and give tutorial in local languages.
>>
>> Same for Fedora, and we still translate softwares, websites and
>> documentations.
>>
>> "Software developpement" is more and more common, we slowly teach it
>> from elementary schools. We should not restrict access to information.
>> Even fedora budget is translatable, why would we like to translate
>> that kind of website as working language in Fedora is english ?
>>
>> Fedora Developer Portal is build half way between communication
>> website and Fedora documentation. Both is relevant to be translatable
>> and helps to reach more users.
>>
>> Fedora Developer Portal is no exception with any of the work of Fedora
>> Websites or Docs Project. It would rather use community tools :
>> pagure/fedorahosted/bugzilla/Zanata, and respect Fedora Foundations,
>> including Freedom by not using google analytics or promote usage of
>> github.
>>
>> If you can't make it translatable because of time, it's a thing, but
>> if you don't because you haven't thought at it or don't see the point,
>> it's a problem. The Websites and Docs projects have both experience in
>> this and may help for tools. L10N team can help to explain what works
>> well or not.
>>
>> Please don't close the door to localization.
>> You said 6 month ago you waited to have more feedback. If you go too
>> far, the cost to include it will be too high.
>> Please think about it for fedora-hubs too.
>>
>> Note : https://techbase.kde.org is translatable, same for
>> https://developer.gnome.org/languages
>>
>> Le 2016-04-22 08:50, Robert Mayr a écrit :
>>
>>> Ok, I'm fine with that. I was just bringing up a question we
>>> discussed time ago and I'm asked sometimes by L10n folks. Thanks for
>>> confirming it. Regards. Robert
>>>
>>> 2016-04-22 8:35 GMT+02:00 Petr Hracek :
>>>
 Hi Robert,

 I guess, developer portal should be only in English.
 Many developer documentation are in English, like Python, Perl, Ruby.

 Regards
 Petr

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Re: [Marketing] Re: [Developer-portal] Re: Preparing a new release of Fedora Developer Portal - asking for feedback

2016-04-30 Thread Zoltan Hoppar 
I think this developer portal will be key for us, and there is a place
for a developer hub for projects aka earlier fedora hosted. IMHO
Fedora Hosted .next should be something like a kickstart portal, just
for softwares. If we are able to our community run software startups,
host them, and even besides the description would be cool to openly,
visibly look for specified coders, designers and so on.

Z

2016-04-27 20:22 GMT+02:00 Matthew Miller :
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:35:57AM +0200, Petr Hracek wrote:
>> I guess, developer portal should be only in English.
>> Many developer documentation are in English, like Python, Perl, Ruby.
>
> If people are interested in working on it, though, having non-English intro
> pages might bring more people into Fedora.
>
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Re: [Marketing] Re: [Developer-portal] Re: Preparing a new release of Fedora Developer Portal - asking for feedback

2016-04-28 Thread Robert Mayr 
2016-04-28 15:27 GMT+02:00 Justin W. Flory :

> Hi all,
>
> The Fedora Globalization (G11n) team would probably be the best points
> of contact for this. I'm not sure on the specifics, but I believe Zanata
> is the tool that would be needed.
>
> I am including the G11n list on this reply. More info at the following
> links:
>
> * Wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N
> * IRC: #fedora-g11n
> * Mailing list:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n.lists.fedoraproject.org/
> * Zanata: http://fedora.zanata.org/
>
> Hope this helps.
>
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> Justin W. Flory
> jflo...@gmail.com
>
>
No this is an Infra task, not G11n. The developer portal actually is on a
cloud instance, and it needs to bet set up to pull files from Zanata and
build the pages for all languages.
We need to create the project and to create the source file, do the markup
and push it out to Zanata. Then L10n teams can translate it in all
languages.

@Petr: could you file an Infra ticket for this? Also, you will probably
need a ULS somewhere, you can take also the websites one if you like.

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