Re: [weewx-user] is PCE-FWS 20N a re-badged fine offset device?

[Mark Fraser]

If it is indeed similar to a 1080, you could always buy a DVB-T tuner and
use the RTL-433 extension. This also allows for the addition of extra
sensors later.

On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, 08:05 Peter Wilkinson,  wrote:

> Thanks for full and helpful information.
>
> Sounds ideal, actually. I need USB connection for further processing
> locally and I can handle upload to e.g. Met office Wow myself.
>
> Hard to find a modestly priced system that supports local output of
> more-or-less raw data. Recommendations for alternative, more modern, setups
> that permit this would be welcome.
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, 07:37 Rainer Lang,  wrote:
>
>> This looks like a clone of the old Fine Offset WH1080 weather station
>> which is no longer sold by Ecowitt due to old technology.
>> Console connectivity is USB only, no WiFi, no connection to the weather
>> networks. No solar sensor either. (a solar panel for running the outdoor
>> array, yes).
>> The outdoor array is likely to be not compatible to the modern WiFi
>> consoles and gateways like GW1000/GW1100/GW2000 due to using a different
>> modulation for the sensor signal transmission. This is also true vice versa
>> - the WH1080 console cannot receive any of the modern FineOffset/Ecowitt
>> sensors.
>>
>> On 12.07.2022 18:57, Peter Wilkinson wrote:
>>
>> Certainly looks like it might be but would appreciate confirmation.
>>
>> Full skinny here:
>>
>>
>> https://www.pce-instruments.com/english/index.htm?id=google-uk&_artnr=5933243&_p=159.6&_pmode=0&_pbexkey=37&_date=20220711011313&_pbhash=3d8b84805bd95306b3a50a774dd67505122ac3489016cd2c6f36fdfad65bdb14&gclid=CjwKCAjwt7SWBhAnEiwAx8ZLatQOmma6jcmlAcX4VrmK6PGwtHcBqai4WNgA6a3U6YK5dAVj_OUZZBoCo5IQAvD_BwE
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Re: [weewx-user] is PCE-FWS 20N a re-badged fine offset device?

[Peter Wilkinson]

a) <200 GBP
b) sorry, yes, sloppy of me. Not really raw.
I am replacing a system built from very old fine offset spare parts (now
seized up) . I interpret the wind speed and rain pulses and wind direction
ohmic resistance in a raspberry pi. Direct from the sensors.
Temp, pressure, humidity and solar intensity all handled with i2c chips.
These can all stay.
Hoping for slightly less raw than that!
c) only said USB because I thought that was only way of accessing data
locally (ie without round-tripping to external service) WiFi would be fine
d) need stream of readings to populate (existing) database. (existing)
Analysis and website then query that database
e) can handle other sensors myself. Only really need wind and rainfall. See
b) above.
f) no console needed
g) raspberry 2 and 3 (have several - long story...)
h) no position on this

BTW Good level of programming skills - Go, C, C++ as well as Linux and
networking

And thanks again for your help
 Peter





On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, 8:36 am Rainer Lang,  wrote:

> Now, this depends on various factors:
> a) what does "modestly priced" mean for you ? (price range - upper limit)
> b) what do you mean exactly by "raw data" - what is it supposed to look
> like ?
> c) is USB a must or just "having used so far" ? could it also be WiFi or
> LAN (via a WiFi router/access point) ?
> d) what's your use case/scenario ?
> e) any plans for extension/expansion (e.g. wanting to use more, different
> sensors) ?
> f) do you need a display console or is viewing live data on a smartphone
> or old tablet enough/acceptable ?
> g) what's your "processing infrastructure" ? e.g. a RaspberryPi (models 3
> or 4B)
> h) do you want a more "integrated" solution (outdoor sensor array) or a
> more distributed solution (separate sensors and locations) ?
>
> Depending on the answers to these questions, a +/- tailored
> proposal/suggestion could be made based on FineOffset/Ecowitt weather
> station/sensor combinations and maybe some additional tools like weewx and
> even some more
>
>
> There are many (more) modern Fine Offset / Ecowitt (clone) solutions
> available, which can also be nicely handled by weewx.
>
> If you want to know what can be combined (console with sensors) in the
> FineOffset/Ecowitt ecosystem, have a look at
> https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 (free of charge
> registration required to see pictures)
>
> P.S. if you don't want to go public with the answers to a) thru h), reply
> to my mail address only
>
>
> On 13.07.2022 09:05, Peter Wilkinson wrote:
>
> Thanks for full and helpful information.
>
> Sounds ideal, actually. I need USB connection for further processing
> locally and I can handle upload to e.g. Met office Wow myself.
>
> Hard to find a modestly priced system that supports local output of mor
> e-or-less raw data. Recommendations for alternative, more modern, setups
> that permit this would be welcome.
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, 07:37 Rainer Lang,  wrote:
>
>> This looks like a clone of the old Fine Offset WH1080 weather station
>> which is no longer sold by Ecowitt due to old technology.
>> Console connectivity is USB only, no WiFi, no connection to the weather
>> networks. No solar sensor either. (a solar panel for running the outdoor
>> array, yes).
>> The outdoor array is likely to be not compatible to the modern WiFi
>> consoles and gateways like GW1000/GW1100/GW2000 due to using a different
>> modulation for the sensor signal transmission. This is also true vice versa
>> - the WH1080 console cannot receive any of the modern FineOffset/Ecowitt
>> sensors.
>>
>> On 12.07.2022 18:57, Peter Wilkinson wrote:
>>
>> Certainly looks like it might be but would appreciate confirmation.
>>
>> Full skinny here:
>>
>>
>> https://www.pce-instruments.com/english/index.htm?id=google-uk&_artnr=5933243&_p=159.6&_pmode=0&_pbexkey=37&_date=20220711011313&_pbhash=3d8b84805bd95306b3a50a774dd67505122ac3489016cd2c6f36fdfad65bdb14&gclid=CjwKCAjwt7SWBhAnEiwAx8ZLatQOmma6jcmlAcX4VrmK6PGwtHcBqai4WNgA6a3U6YK5dAVj_OUZZBoCo5IQAvD_BwE
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Re: [weewx-user] is PCE-FWS 20N a re-badged fine offset device?

[Rainer Lang]

Now, this depends on various factors:
a) what does "modestly priced" mean for you ? (price range - upper limit)
b) what do you mean exactly by "raw data" - what is it supposed to look 
like ?
c) is USB a must or just "having used so far" ? could it also be WiFi or 
LAN (via a WiFi router/access point) ?

d) what's your use case/scenario ?
e) any plans for extension/expansion (e.g. wanting to use more, 
different sensors) ?
f) do you need a display console or is viewing live data on a smartphone 
or old tablet enough/acceptable ?
g) what's your "processing infrastructure" ? e.g. a RaspberryPi (models 
3 or 4B)
h) do you want a more "integrated" solution (outdoor sensor array) or a 
more distributed solution (separate sensors and locations) ?


Depending on the answers to these questions, a +/- tailored 
proposal/suggestion could be made based on FineOffset/Ecowitt weather 
station/sensor combinations and maybe some additional tools like weewx 
and even some more



There are many (more) modern Fine Offset / Ecowitt (clone) solutions 
available, which can also be nicely handled by weewx.


If you want to know what can be combined (console with sensors) in the 
FineOffset/Ecowitt ecosystem, have a look at
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 (free of charge 
registration required to see pictures)


P.S. if you don't want to go public with the answers to a) thru h), 
reply to my mail address only



On 13.07.2022 09:05, Peter Wilkinson wrote:

Thanks for full and helpful information.

Sounds ideal, actually. I need USB connection for further processing 
locally and I can handle upload to e.g. Met office Wow myself.


Hard to find a modestly priced system that supports local output of 
mor e-or-less raw data. Recommendations for alternative, more modern, 
setups that permit this would be welcome.


Peter

On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, 07:37 Rainer Lang,  wrote:

This looks like a clone of the old Fine Offset WH1080 weather
station which is no longer sold by Ecowitt due to old technology.
Console connectivity is USB only, no WiFi, no connection to the
weather networks. No solar sensor either. (a solar panel for
running the outdoor array, yes).
The outdoor array is likely to be not compatible to the modern
WiFi consoles and gateways like GW1000/GW1100/GW2000 due to using
a different modulation for the sensor signal transmission. This is
also true vice versa - the WH1080 console cannot receive any of
the modern FineOffset/Ecowitt sensors.

On 12.07.2022 18:57, Peter Wilkinson wrote:

Certainly looks like it might be but would appreciate confirmation.

Full skinny here:


https://www.pce-instruments.com/english/index.htm?id=google-uk&_artnr=5933243&_p=159.6&_pmode=0&_pbexkey=37&_date=20220711011313&_pbhash=3d8b84805bd95306b3a50a774dd67505122ac3489016cd2c6f36fdfad65bdb14&gclid=CjwKCAjwt7SWBhAnEiwAx8ZLatQOmma6jcmlAcX4VrmK6PGwtHcBqai4WNgA6a3U6YK5dAVj_OUZZBoCo5IQAvD_BwE


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Re: [weewx-user] is PCE-FWS 20N a re-badged fine offset device?

[Peter Wilkinson]

Thanks for full and helpful information.

Sounds ideal, actually. I need USB connection for further processing
locally and I can handle upload to e.g. Met office Wow myself.

Hard to find a modestly priced system that supports local output of
more-or-less raw data. Recommendations for alternative, more modern, setups
that permit this would be welcome.

Peter

On Wed, 13 Jul 2022, 07:37 Rainer Lang,  wrote:

> This looks like a clone of the old Fine Offset WH1080 weather station
> which is no longer sold by Ecowitt due to old technology.
> Console connectivity is USB only, no WiFi, no connection to the weather
> networks. No solar sensor either. (a solar panel for running the outdoor
> array, yes).
> The outdoor array is likely to be not compatible to the modern WiFi
> consoles and gateways like GW1000/GW1100/GW2000 due to using a different
> modulation for the sensor signal transmission. This is also true vice versa
> - the WH1080 console cannot receive any of the modern FineOffset/Ecowitt
> sensors.
>
> On 12.07.2022 18:57, Peter Wilkinson wrote:
>
> Certainly looks like it might be but would appreciate confirmation.
>
> Full skinny here:
>
>
> https://www.pce-instruments.com/english/index.htm?id=google-uk&_artnr=5933243&_p=159.6&_pmode=0&_pbexkey=37&_date=20220711011313&_pbhash=3d8b84805bd95306b3a50a774dd67505122ac3489016cd2c6f36fdfad65bdb14&gclid=CjwKCAjwt7SWBhAnEiwAx8ZLatQOmma6jcmlAcX4VrmK6PGwtHcBqai4WNgA6a3U6YK5dAVj_OUZZBoCo5IQAvD_BwE
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