Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-12-03 Thread didier....@gmail.com

The right value is "altimeter"
See 
specs 
https://www.davisinstruments.com/product_documents/weather/spec_sheets/6100_WL-Live_Spec_Sheet.pdf
Le mercredi 2 décembre 2020 à 14:24:37 UTC+1, kk44...@gmail.com a écrit :

> To my support question to the Davis support I finally received a reply. I 
> asked them why there are differences between console value and 
> WeatherLinkLive value and whether that is an accuracy issue. The first 
> answer was not helpful. So I confronted them with the statement about 
> different calculation. They took a long time to answer. 
>
> And from what I understand what they wrote the Davis support does not know 
> for sure. Who then?
>
> This was their answer:
> *Hello, *
> *That looks like it is the case. They are calculated different. *
> *To tell you the truth I was not aware of this. *
> ** * * *
> *Tom Raymond *
> *Technical Support Davis Instruments*
>
>
>
> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. November 2020 um 14:29:48 
> UTC+1:
>
>> thank's Florentin, I've just opened a ticket on Davis support, I will 
>> give you the result next week I hope.
>>
>> Le dim. 22 nov. 2020 à 14:24, flor...@pre-vost.fr  
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm the author of WLLDriver on Github.
>>> Yes, I think that *altimeter *is the good value. But I suggest to 
>>> confirm that by directly ask Davis.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Le samedi 21 novembre 2020 à 22:31:04 UTC+1, kk44...@gmail.com a écrit :
>>>
 I found that additional information at 
 https://www.manula.com/manuals/pws/davis-kb/1/en/topic/barometric-pressure-issues
 .

 There they say, that Davis uses different calculations in different 
 devices:

- VP2 and envoy consoles: sea-level pressure ("barometer", QFF)
- WeatherLinkLive: altimeter pressure ("altimeter", QNH)
- Vue consoles: user can choose between the two

 So it seems, the author of the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver read the 
 documentation most carefully. 

 And to confuse the user or something, in the LOOP data record, Davis 
 calls the value, what we learnt is altimeter, "bar_sea_level". 

 The archive record contains all the three values barometer, altimeter, 
 and pressure (I checked). Since the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver does not 
 provide a value for barometer, may be, WeeWX calculates it by itself.

 didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 20:54:45 
 UTC+1:

> Thank's a lot
> I'm learning a lot of things with you
>
> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 18:59, vince  a écrit :
>
>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 kk44...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 
>>> 16:09:22 UTC+1:
>>>
 Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
 The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" 
 and WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info

>>>
>>> That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the 
>>> readings from the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can 
>>> influence which values is displayed?
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> There are two pressure-related elements provided by the Davis 
>> hardware.One is the pressure as reported by the sensor, the other is 
>> the pressure corrected to sea-level pressure based on your altitude.
>> The 
>> driver code defines which sensor values it uses for what generic weewx 
>> database element
>>
>> Both drivers map 'bar_absolute' from the hardware to weewx 'pressure' 
>> in the database.
>>
>> But...the two drivers map 'bar_sea_level' from the hardware to 
>> different elements in weewx's database.
>>
>>- WLLDriver.py   puts the value into 'barometer' in weewx
>>- weatherlinkliveudp.py  puts the value into 'altimeter' in weewx
>>
>> According to 
>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter, 
>> the correction math differs slightly, so I'd expect slight differences 
>> perhaps.  A difference of 1 mbar to me isn't something to worry too 
>> much.  
>> You're talking 0.1 percent offset.  The sensor itself isn't that precise 
>> to 
>> begin with.
>>
>>
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-12-02 Thread Karen K
To my support question to the Davis support I finally received a reply. I 
asked them why there are differences between console value and 
WeatherLinkLive value and whether that is an accuracy issue. The first 
answer was not helpful. So I confronted them with the statement about 
different calculation. They took a long time to answer. 

And from what I understand what they wrote the Davis support does not know 
for sure. Who then?

This was their answer:
*Hello, *
*That looks like it is the case. They are calculated different. *
*To tell you the truth I was not aware of this. *
** * * *
*Tom Raymond *
*Technical Support Davis Instruments*



didier@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 22. November 2020 um 14:29:48 
UTC+1:

> thank's Florentin, I've just opened a ticket on Davis support, I will give 
> you the result next week I hope.
>
> Le dim. 22 nov. 2020 à 14:24, flor...@pre-vost.fr  a 
> écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm the author of WLLDriver on Github.
>> Yes, I think that *altimeter *is the good value. But I suggest to 
>> confirm that by directly ask Davis.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Le samedi 21 novembre 2020 à 22:31:04 UTC+1, kk44...@gmail.com a écrit :
>>
>>> I found that additional information at 
>>> https://www.manula.com/manuals/pws/davis-kb/1/en/topic/barometric-pressure-issues
>>> .
>>>
>>> There they say, that Davis uses different calculations in different 
>>> devices:
>>>
>>>- VP2 and envoy consoles: sea-level pressure ("barometer", QFF)
>>>- WeatherLinkLive: altimeter pressure ("altimeter", QNH)
>>>- Vue consoles: user can choose between the two
>>>
>>> So it seems, the author of the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver read the 
>>> documentation most carefully. 
>>>
>>> And to confuse the user or something, in the LOOP data record, Davis 
>>> calls the value, what we learnt is altimeter, "bar_sea_level". 
>>>
>>> The archive record contains all the three values barometer, altimeter, 
>>> and pressure (I checked). Since the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver does not 
>>> provide a value for barometer, may be, WeeWX calculates it by itself.
>>>
>>> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 20:54:45 
>>> UTC+1:
>>>
 Thank's a lot
 I'm learning a lot of things with you

 Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 18:59, vince  a écrit :

> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 kk44...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 
>> 16:09:22 UTC+1:
>>
>>> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
>>> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" 
>>> and WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>>>
>>
>> That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings 
>> from the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence 
>> which 
>> values is displayed?
>>  
>>
>
> There are two pressure-related elements provided by the Davis 
> hardware.One is the pressure as reported by the sensor, the other is 
> the pressure corrected to sea-level pressure based on your altitude.
> The 
> driver code defines which sensor values it uses for what generic weewx 
> database element
>
> Both drivers map 'bar_absolute' from the hardware to weewx 'pressure' 
> in the database.
>
> But...the two drivers map 'bar_sea_level' from the hardware to 
> different elements in weewx's database.
>
>- WLLDriver.py   puts the value into 'barometer' in weewx
>- weatherlinkliveudp.py  puts the value into 'altimeter' in weewx
>
> According to 
> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter, 
> the correction math differs slightly, so I'd expect slight differences 
> perhaps.  A difference of 1 mbar to me isn't something to worry too much. 
>  
> You're talking 0.1 percent offset.  The sensor itself isn't that precise 
> to 
> begin with.
>
>
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-22 Thread Didier Decoodt
thank's Florentin, I've just opened a ticket on Davis support, I will give
you the result next week I hope.

Le dim. 22 nov. 2020 à 14:24, flor...@pre-vost.fr  a
écrit :

> Hi,
>
> I'm the author of WLLDriver on Github.
> Yes, I think that *altimeter *is the good value. But I suggest to confirm
> that by directly ask Davis.
>
> Regards,
>
> Le samedi 21 novembre 2020 à 22:31:04 UTC+1, kk44...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> I found that additional information at
>> https://www.manula.com/manuals/pws/davis-kb/1/en/topic/barometric-pressure-issues
>> .
>>
>> There they say, that Davis uses different calculations in different
>> devices:
>>
>>- VP2 and envoy consoles: sea-level pressure ("barometer", QFF)
>>- WeatherLinkLive: altimeter pressure ("altimeter", QNH)
>>- Vue consoles: user can choose between the two
>>
>> So it seems, the author of the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver read the
>> documentation most carefully.
>>
>> And to confuse the user or something, in the LOOP data record, Davis
>> calls the value, what we learnt is altimeter, "bar_sea_level".
>>
>> The archive record contains all the three values barometer, altimeter,
>> and pressure (I checked). Since the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver does not
>> provide a value for barometer, may be, WeeWX calculates it by itself.
>>
>> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 20:54:45
>> UTC+1:
>>
>>> Thank's a lot
>>> I'm learning a lot of things with you
>>>
>>> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 18:59, vince  a écrit :
>>>
 On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 kk44...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um
> 16:09:22 UTC+1:
>
>> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
>> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter"
>> and WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>>
>
> That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings
> from the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence 
> which
> values is displayed?
>
>

 There are two pressure-related elements provided by the Davis hardware.
One is the pressure as reported by the sensor, the other is the pressure
 corrected to sea-level pressure based on your altitude.The driver code
 defines which sensor values it uses for what generic weewx database element

 Both drivers map 'bar_absolute' from the hardware to weewx 'pressure'
 in the database.

 But...the two drivers map 'bar_sea_level' from the hardware to
 different elements in weewx's database.

- WLLDriver.py   puts the value into 'barometer' in weewx
- weatherlinkliveudp.py  puts the value into 'altimeter' in weewx

 According to
 https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter,
 the correction math differs slightly, so I'd expect slight differences
 perhaps.  A difference of 1 mbar to me isn't something to worry too much.
 You're talking 0.1 percent offset.  The sensor itself isn't that precise to
 begin with.


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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-22 Thread flor...@pre-vost.fr
Hi,

I'm the author of WLLDriver on Github.
Yes, I think that *altimeter *is the good value. But I suggest to confirm 
that by directly ask Davis.

Regards,

Le samedi 21 novembre 2020 à 22:31:04 UTC+1, kk44...@gmail.com a écrit :

> I found that additional information at 
> https://www.manula.com/manuals/pws/davis-kb/1/en/topic/barometric-pressure-issues
> .
>
> There they say, that Davis uses different calculations in different 
> devices:
>
>- VP2 and envoy consoles: sea-level pressure ("barometer", QFF)
>- WeatherLinkLive: altimeter pressure ("altimeter", QNH)
>- Vue consoles: user can choose between the two
>
> So it seems, the author of the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver read the 
> documentation most carefully. 
>
> And to confuse the user or something, in the LOOP data record, Davis calls 
> the value, what we learnt is altimeter, "bar_sea_level". 
>
> The archive record contains all the three values barometer, altimeter, and 
> pressure (I checked). Since the "weatherlinkliveudp" driver does not 
> provide a value for barometer, may be, WeeWX calculates it by itself.
>
> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 20:54:45 
> UTC+1:
>
>> Thank's a lot
>> I'm learning a lot of things with you
>>
>> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 18:59, vince  a écrit :
>>
>>> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 kk44...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 16:09:22 
 UTC+1:

> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and 
> WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>

 That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings 
 from the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence 
 which 
 values is displayed?
  

>>>
>>> There are two pressure-related elements provided by the Davis hardware. 
>>>One is the pressure as reported by the sensor, the other is the pressure 
>>> corrected to sea-level pressure based on your altitude.The driver code 
>>> defines which sensor values it uses for what generic weewx database element
>>>
>>> Both drivers map 'bar_absolute' from the hardware to weewx 'pressure' 
>>> in the database.
>>>
>>> But...the two drivers map 'bar_sea_level' from the hardware to 
>>> different elements in weewx's database.
>>>
>>>- WLLDriver.py   puts the value into 'barometer' in weewx
>>>- weatherlinkliveudp.py  puts the value into 'altimeter' in weewx
>>>
>>> According to 
>>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter, 
>>> the correction math differs slightly, so I'd expect slight differences 
>>> perhaps.  A difference of 1 mbar to me isn't something to worry too much.  
>>> You're talking 0.1 percent offset.  The sensor itself isn't that precise to 
>>> begin with.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread Didier Decoodt
Thank's a lot
I'm learning a lot of things with you

Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 18:59, vince  a écrit :

> On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 kk44...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 16:09:22
>> UTC+1:
>>
>>> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
>>> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and
>>> WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>>>
>>
>> That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings
>> from the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence which
>> values is displayed?
>>
>>
>
> There are two pressure-related elements provided by the Davis hardware.
>  One is the pressure as reported by the sensor, the other is the pressure
> corrected to sea-level pressure based on your altitude.The driver code
> defines which sensor values it uses for what generic weewx database element
>
> Both drivers map 'bar_absolute' from the hardware to weewx 'pressure' in
> the database.
>
> But...the two drivers map 'bar_sea_level' from the hardware to different
> elements in weewx's database.
>
>- WLLDriver.py   puts the value into 'barometer' in weewx
>- weatherlinkliveudp.py  puts the value into 'altimeter' in weewx
>
> According to
> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter,
> the correction math differs slightly, so I'd expect slight differences
> perhaps.  A difference of 1 mbar to me isn't something to worry too much.
> You're talking 0.1 percent offset.  The sensor itself isn't that precise to
> begin with.
>
>
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread vince
On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 9:31:11 AM UTC-8 kk44...@gmail.com wrote:

> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 16:09:22 
> UTC+1:
>
>> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
>> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and 
>> WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>>
>
> That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings from 
> the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence which 
> values is displayed?
>  
>

There are two pressure-related elements provided by the Davis hardware.   
 One is the pressure as reported by the sensor, the other is the pressure 
corrected to sea-level pressure based on your altitude.The driver code 
defines which sensor values it uses for what generic weewx database element

Both drivers map 'bar_absolute' from the hardware to weewx 'pressure' in 
the database.

But...the two drivers map 'bar_sea_level' from the hardware to different 
elements in weewx's database.

   - WLLDriver.py   puts the value into 'barometer' in weewx
   - weatherlinkliveudp.py  puts the value into 'altimeter' in weewx

According to 
https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter, the 
correction math differs slightly, so I'd expect slight differences perhaps. 
 A difference of 1 mbar to me isn't something to worry too much.  You're 
talking 0.1 percent offset.  The sensor itself isn't that precise to begin 
with.


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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread Didier Decoodt
No, it is not a problem of driver,
It's OK now, the 2 drivers give the same datas.
Thank you Gary for explanations, all is clear now in my head. (meteorology
is new for me...)
Have a good week-end

Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 18:31, Karen K  a écrit :

> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 16:09:22
> UTC+1:
>
>> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
>> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and
>> WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>>
>
> That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings from
> the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence which
> values is displayed?
>
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread Karen K
didier@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 21. November 2020 um 16:09:22 
UTC+1:

> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and 
> WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>

That I do not understand. Does the driver only retrieves the readings from 
the hardware, doesn't it? So, which way the driver can influence which 
values is displayed?
 

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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread gary....@gmail.com
Here's a handy link.
https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Barometer,-pressure,-and-altimeter

On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 10:09:22 AM UTC-5 didier@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
> The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and 
> WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info
>
> After change all is correct
> It was not a mystery.
>
> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 15:30, Didier Decoodt  a 
> écrit :
>
>> I have completely restarted my machine and now I have the same 
>> values..
>> It's a mystery, but it's OK now
>>
>> Sorry
>>
>> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 14:58, G Hammer  a écrit :
>>
>>> I may do that later, but I fail to see the point.
>>> Do you think WeeWX and Davis are both applying a conversion factor to 
>>> the raw data and just happened upon the same value?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 4:16 AM Didier Decoodt  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Strange...
 Could you check these values by using http://"@IP of WLL"/v1/ 
 current_conditions
 I'm using master github, I think that this is the same distribution of 
 bugfix_october20

 Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 02:06, gary@gmail.com  
 a écrit :

> I have the WeatherLinkLiveUDP driver (bugfix_october20) installed and 
> in weewx I see identical readings with Davis Bulletin page for my PWS.
> [image: weewx.PNG]   [image: WLL.PNG]
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread Didier Decoodt
Ooops, after 10 mn the 2 values have diverged (only 1 mbar)
The explanation is that weatherlinkliveudp driver uses "altimeter" and
WLLDriver uses "barometer" for the station info

After change all is correct
It was not a mystery.

Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 15:30, Didier Decoodt  a
écrit :

> I have completely restarted my machine and now I have the same
> values..
> It's a mystery, but it's OK now
>
> Sorry
>
> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 14:58, G Hammer  a écrit :
>
>> I may do that later, but I fail to see the point.
>> Do you think WeeWX and Davis are both applying a conversion factor to the
>> raw data and just happened upon the same value?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 4:16 AM Didier Decoodt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Strange...
>>> Could you check these values by using http://"@IP of WLL"/v1/
>>> current_conditions
>>> I'm using master github, I think that this is the same distribution of
>>> bugfix_october20
>>>
>>> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 02:06, gary@gmail.com 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 I have the WeatherLinkLiveUDP driver (bugfix_october20) installed and
 in weewx I see identical readings with Davis Bulletin page for my PWS.
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread Didier Decoodt
I have completely restarted my machine and now I have the same
values..
It's a mystery, but it's OK now

Sorry

Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 14:58, G Hammer  a écrit :

> I may do that later, but I fail to see the point.
> Do you think WeeWX and Davis are both applying a conversion factor to the
> raw data and just happened upon the same value?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 4:16 AM Didier Decoodt 
> wrote:
>
>> Strange...
>> Could you check these values by using http://"@IP of WLL"/v1/
>> current_conditions
>> I'm using master github, I think that this is the same distribution of
>> bugfix_october20
>>
>> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 02:06, gary@gmail.com 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> I have the WeatherLinkLiveUDP driver (bugfix_october20) installed and in
>>> weewx I see identical readings with Davis Bulletin page for my PWS.
>>> [image: weewx.PNG]   [image: WLL.PNG]
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-21 Thread G Hammer
I may do that later, but I fail to see the point.
Do you think WeeWX and Davis are both applying a conversion factor to the
raw data and just happened upon the same value?


On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 4:16 AM Didier Decoodt 
wrote:

> Strange...
> Could you check these values by using http://"@IP of WLL"/v1/
> current_conditions
> I'm using master github, I think that this is the same distribution of
> bugfix_october20
>
> Le sam. 21 nov. 2020 à 02:06, gary@gmail.com 
> a écrit :
>
>> I have the WeatherLinkLiveUDP driver (bugfix_october20) installed and in
>> weewx I see identical readings with Davis Bulletin page for my PWS.
>> [image: weewx.PNG]   [image: WLL.PNG]
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-20 Thread gary....@gmail.com
I have the WeatherLinkLiveUDP driver (bugfix_october20) installed and in 
weewx I see identical readings with Davis Bulletin page for my PWS.
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-16 Thread Karen K
*Weatherlinkliveudp*
(https://github.com/grebleem/weewx-weatherlinkliveudp)

No I tested the driver "Weatherlinkliveudp". I installed and activated the 
driver yesterday. By now there were no problems at all. It seems, the 
Weatherlinkliveudp driver is more reliable in terms of rain than WLL. With 
this driver it is possible to stop WeeWX without the need to kill the 
process. 

Using the anemometer transmitter kit is possible. No special configuration 
is required to do so.

I have no additional sensors. So I cannot comment on restrictions there.

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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-02 Thread gary....@gmail.com
Take a look at this one, it's well documented and the author is quite 
responsive.
https://github.com/michael-slx/weewx-weatherlink-live

This one performs well too and also has a responsive author.
https://github.com/grebleem/weewx-weatherlinkliveudp

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 7:12:55 AM UTC-5 didier@gmail.com wrote:

> it's a fork of https://github.com/vinceskahan/weewx-weatherlinklive-json
>
> Le dim. 1 nov. 2020 à 12:21, Karen K  a écrit :
>
>> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 1. November 2020 um 11:36:36 
>> UTC+1:
>>
>>> I'm using this one : 
>>> https://github.com/Drealine/weatherlinklive-driver-weewx
>>>
>>
>> Oh, I think, this one is not listed at 
>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki .
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-01 Thread Didier Decoodt
it's a fork of https://github.com/vinceskahan/weewx-weatherlinklive-json

Le dim. 1 nov. 2020 à 12:21, Karen K  a écrit :

> didier@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 1. November 2020 um 11:36:36
> UTC+1:
>
>> I'm using this one :
>> https://github.com/Drealine/weatherlinklive-driver-weewx
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> Oh, I think, this one is not listed at https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki
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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-01 Thread Karen K
didier@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 1. November 2020 um 11:36:36 UTC+1:

> I'm using this one : 
> https://github.com/Drealine/weatherlinklive-driver-weewx
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Oh, I think, this one is not listed at https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki .

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Re: [weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-01 Thread Didier Decoodt
I'm using this one :
https://github.com/Drealine/weatherlinklive-driver-weewx

Le dim. 1 nov. 2020 à 11:22, Karen K  a écrit :

> Within the last days I did a some testing, and I read the threads
> regarding the Davis WeatherLink Live device for Davis Vantage Pro 2, and I
> wonder, which driver is best to use.
>
> Let me summarize, what I found out about the drivers.
>
> Just to avoid confusion:
>
>- "WeatherLink IP": a discontinued adaptor to insert into the Davis
>console
>- "WeatherLink Live": a separate device to receive data from a
>wireless Davis Vantage Pro 2 station
>
> Both of them use a different protocol to communicate with the PC.
>
> As I bought the station recently, I got the WeatherLink Live device. Then
> I looked for the appropriate driver, and I found a lot of them:
>
> *Vantage (weewx.drivers.vantage)*
>
> Although it is not mentioned in the documentation, I assume, that that
> driver is for the old, discontinued adaptors, only. I had a look at the
> code of the driver, and it seems so.
>
> Could someone confirm or deny?
>
> *WLL (users.wll)*
>
> I tried that driver, and it works. There were 2 little problems.
>
> First, I use a separate anemometer transmitter kit. Unfortunately, the
> driver reads the values from the transmitter kit and shows the wind, only.
> I changed the code a little bit, and now it reads the values from the
> station including the wind. I reported the changes to the author of the
> driver.
>
> Second, if you stop Weewx, the driver reports an exception to the logs,
> but does not finish. I have to kill the process by "kill -KILL".
>
> Nevertheless, this is the driver I still use.
>
> *WeatherLink Live* (recommended by Weewx)
>
> That driver seems attractive, because it announces to use both the
> broadcast messages and the HTTP requests.
>
> Remark for setup: Not as he documentation says, I had to set up the wind
> for ID 1 instead of 2 to get data.
>
> Unfortunately, in my case, every now and then the log shows an error
> message, and Weewx pauses for 60 seconds. The error message reads:
>
> Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] ERROR
> user.weatherlink_live.scheduler: Error caught in scheduler tick. Not
> rescheduling
> Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] INFO weewx.engine: Main loop
> exiting. Shutting engine down.
> Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] INFO weewx.engine: Shutting down
> StdReport thread
> Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] CRITICAL __main__: Caught
> WeeWxIOError: Error while receiving or processing packets:
> HTTPConnectionPool(host='192.168.XX.XX', port=80): Max retries exceeded
> with url: /v1/real_time?duration=1500 (Caused by
> NewConnectionError(' 0x7f6b45b15340>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111]
> Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt'))
> Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] CRITICAL __main__:  Waiting 60
> seconds then retrying...
>
> As the driver uses 2 different data sources, the author may want to change
> the error handling and simply queries the device by HTTP request if the
> real time broadcast cannot be activated for some reason. I think that would
> make the driver more robust.
>
> (Remark: I don't think, the error message is really a problem of the
> driver but rather one of the network.)
>
> *WeatherLinkLiveJSON*
>
> I did not test this one.
>
> *Weatherlinkliveudp *(recommended by Weewx)
>
> I did not test this one, because I thought, "WeatherLink Live" will be
> more than that, as it uses both ways to communicate with the device.
>
> I can be wrong but I think I read somewhere the broadcast messages and the
> HTML request do not deliver the same set of information. Correct me, if I
> am wrong.
>
> And in one thread I read, someone decoded the V2 API of Davis, but that
> thread gave no further information, an I see no driver that implements that.
>
> What would you recommend a new user to use?
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[weewx-user] Davis WeatherLink Live: Which driver is best?

2020-11-01 Thread Karen K
Within the last days I did a some testing, and I read the threads regarding 
the Davis WeatherLink Live device for Davis Vantage Pro 2, and I wonder, 
which driver is best to use.

Let me summarize, what I found out about the drivers.

Just to avoid confusion:

   - "WeatherLink IP": a discontinued adaptor to insert into the Davis 
   console
   - "WeatherLink Live": a separate device to receive data from a wireless 
   Davis Vantage Pro 2 station
   
Both of them use a different protocol to communicate with the PC.

As I bought the station recently, I got the WeatherLink Live device. Then I 
looked for the appropriate driver, and I found a lot of them:

*Vantage (weewx.drivers.vantage)*

Although it is not mentioned in the documentation, I assume, that that 
driver is for the old, discontinued adaptors, only. I had a look at the 
code of the driver, and it seems so.

Could someone confirm or deny?

*WLL (users.wll)*

I tried that driver, and it works. There were 2 little problems.

First, I use a separate anemometer transmitter kit. Unfortunately, the 
driver reads the values from the transmitter kit and shows the wind, only. 
I changed the code a little bit, and now it reads the values from the 
station including the wind. I reported the changes to the author of the 
driver.

Second, if you stop Weewx, the driver reports an exception to the logs, but 
does not finish. I have to kill the process by "kill -KILL". 

Nevertheless, this is the driver I still use.

*WeatherLink Live* (recommended by Weewx)

That driver seems attractive, because it announces to use both the 
broadcast messages and the HTTP requests.

Remark for setup: Not as he documentation says, I had to set up the wind 
for ID 1 instead of 2 to get data.

Unfortunately, in my case, every now and then the log shows an error 
message, and Weewx pauses for 60 seconds. The error message reads:

Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] ERROR 
user.weatherlink_live.scheduler: Error caught in scheduler tick. Not 
rescheduling 
Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] INFO weewx.engine: Main loop 
exiting. Shutting engine down. 
Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] INFO weewx.engine: Shutting down 
StdReport thread 
Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] CRITICAL __main__: Caught 
WeeWxIOError: Error while receiving or processing packets: 
HTTPConnectionPool(host='192.168.XX.XX', port=80): Max retries exceeded 
with url: /v1/real_time?duration=1500 (Caused by 
NewConnectionError(': Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 111] 
Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt')) 
Oct 31 18:39:27 LokalWiki weewx[147658] CRITICAL __main__:  Waiting 60 
seconds then retrying... 

As the driver uses 2 different data sources, the author may want to change 
the error handling and simply queries the device by HTTP request if the 
real time broadcast cannot be activated for some reason. I think that would 
make the driver more robust. 

(Remark: I don't think, the error message is really a problem of the driver 
but rather one of the network.)

*WeatherLinkLiveJSON*

I did not test this one.

*Weatherlinkliveudp *(recommended by Weewx)

I did not test this one, because I thought, "WeatherLink Live" will be more 
than that, as it uses both ways to communicate with the device.

I can be wrong but I think I read somewhere the broadcast messages and the 
HTML request do not deliver the same set of information. Correct me, if I 
am wrong.

And in one thread I read, someone decoded the V2 API of Davis, but that 
thread gave no further information, an I see no driver that implements that.

What would you recommend a new user to use?

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