[weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-11-20 Thread Cari Podesta
I have the 01525 and after 1 year the outside temp(always)reads -40 even 
when its near 80F. All other readings in or outside are good; rain, wind 
etc. I reset to factory defaults, replaced both sender and receiver 
batteries. Anybody have any ideas other than buying a new sender?

Thanks,
cari

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 12:33:38 PM UTC-4, Tony Turner wrote:

> I have an Acurite 01525A1 connected by USB to an OrangePI ONE running 
> Armbian Ubuntu Xenial and weewx v3.6.2. When the weather is cloudy the 
> temperature seems to be relatively accurate compared to my old weather 
> station and other stations close to me. But on really sunny days when the 
> sun comes up over the trees (around 2 pm) my temperature starts to read 
> high, it varies but lets say 6 to 8 degrees. I mounted it according to 
> Acurite's instructions... 5 feet above the ground in a location that is 
> clear of trees and other obstructions. I assume they intended for it to be 
> out in the open where rain and wind will not be blocked. Anyway, it's 
> impossible to know if the crazy little fan is working since I'm always at 
> work when it messes up. I notice it because weather underground takes it 
> down because of inaccurate date (I assume that's why it stops appearing on 
> their map). Is there a way to correct this? Maybe based on the UV from the 
> solar cell? Does anyone else have this issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-20 Thread Tony Turner
Thanks for the information Chris. I've kind of committed to replacing the
unit since my wife bought me another one but I'll check all that before I
send it to my daughters house.

Tony

On Apr 20, 2017 12:03 PM, "Chris Swanda"  wrote:

> Tony,
>
> On my 5-1 unit, spiders will crawl up under the unit and build webs, that
> in turn will stop the fans from spinning.  Or at least on mine, that has
> happened in the past.
>
> From the Acurite website.
>
> *Step 1.*
>> Remove the four outer screws on the bottom of the sensor. Keep the screws
>> for re-assembly.
>>
>>
>>- *Note:* Be careful not to remove or adjust the rain calibration
>>screws located beneath the rain gauge.
>>
>>
>> *Step 2. *
>> Separate the upper and lower halves of the sensor.
>>
>>
>> *Step 3.*Check the fan for debris, such as insects or spider webs. A
>> gentle puff of air can clear most obstructions safely
>>
>> If no debris appears to be blocking the fan, position the top white
>> portion of the sensor (that has the solar panel) in direct, bright
>> sunlight. The fan should power on immediately without any assistance (such
>> as a nudge). *Note:* Artificial light, such as flashlights, *cannot* be
>> used as a substitute for actual sunlight. Also, overcast days may not be
>> sunny enough to power on the fan.
>>
>> *Step 4.*
>> To reassemble the sensor, bring the two halves of the sensor back
>> together.
>>
>> *Step 5.*
>> Reinstall the four outer screws to join the upper and lower portions of
>> the sensor together.
>>
>
> On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-5, Tony Turner wrote:
>>
>> BTW! I have checked my 5-1 units fan to see if I can hear it running but
>> I hear nothing I checked it Saturday and Sunday in bright sun light and
>> a very warm day and never heard a thing. I have to assume it's not working.
>> I received this unit for my birthday back in November but didn't get around
>> to installing it until February. I would have thought it would work longer
>> than that.
>>
>> Just as a side note. I have been looking at the weather stations around
>> me on weather underground and found one other Acurite 5-1 unit. I found it
>> because I noticed one temperature that was the same as mine so I looked at
>> what station hardware they were using... same as mine. It was easy to spot
>> because my station and theirs was reading 8 degrees higher than any of the
>> other stations around us. He seems to be having the same issue.
>>
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[weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-20 Thread Chris Swanda
Tony,

On my 5-1 unit, spiders will crawl up under the unit and build webs, that 
in turn will stop the fans from spinning.  Or at least on mine, that has 
happened in the past.  

>From the Acurite website.

*Step 1.*
> Remove the four outer screws on the bottom of the sensor. Keep the screws 
> for re-assembly. 
>
>
>- *Note:* Be careful not to remove or adjust the rain calibration 
>screws located beneath the rain gauge.
>
>
> *Step 2. *
> Separate the upper and lower halves of the sensor. 
>
>
> *Step 3.*Check the fan for debris, such as insects or spider webs. A 
> gentle puff of air can clear most obstructions safely
>
> If no debris appears to be blocking the fan, position the top white 
> portion of the sensor (that has the solar panel) in direct, bright 
> sunlight. The fan should power on immediately without any assistance (such 
> as a nudge). *Note:* Artificial light, such as flashlights, *cannot* be 
> used as a substitute for actual sunlight. Also, overcast days may not be 
> sunny enough to power on the fan.
>
> *Step 4.*
> To reassemble the sensor, bring the two halves of the sensor back 
> together. 
>
> *Step 5.*
> Reinstall the four outer screws to join the upper and lower portions of 
> the sensor together.
>

On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 7:37:28 AM UTC-5, Tony Turner wrote:
>
> BTW! I have checked my 5-1 units fan to see if I can hear it running but I 
> hear nothing I checked it Saturday and Sunday in bright sun light and a 
> very warm day and never heard a thing. I have to assume it's not working. I 
> received this unit for my birthday back in November but didn't get around 
> to installing it until February. I would have thought it would work longer 
> than that.
>
> Just as a side note. I have been looking at the weather stations around me 
> on weather underground and found one other Acurite 5-1 unit. I found it 
> because I noticed one temperature that was the same as mine so I looked at 
> what station hardware they were using... same as mine. It was easy to spot 
> because my station and theirs was reading 8 degrees higher than any of the 
> other stations around us. He seems to be having the same issue.
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-20 Thread Tony Turner
BTW! I have checked my 5-1 units fan to see if I can hear it running but I 
hear nothing I checked it Saturday and Sunday in bright sun light and a 
very warm day and never heard a thing. I have to assume it's not working. I 
received this unit for my birthday back in November but didn't get around 
to installing it until February. I would have thought it would work longer 
than that.

Just as a side note. I have been looking at the weather stations around me 
on weather underground and found one other Acurite 5-1 unit. I found it 
because I noticed one temperature that was the same as mine so I looked at 
what station hardware they were using... same as mine. It was easy to spot 
because my station and theirs was reading 8 degrees higher than any of the 
other stations around us. He seems to be having the same issue.

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-19 Thread Tony Turner
M, 
I missed the last part when reading this on my phone but the intercept 
driver looks like the answer to my issue if I'm using the Ambient 900. 
Heck... I'll give my Acurite to my daughter to use out on their farm 
win-win lol!

You guys are so smart!! Thank you for your help.

Tony


On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 3:21:57 PM UTC-5, mwall wrote:
>
>
> (snip)
> or you can use the weewx-interceptor driver to capture the tcp/ip traffic 
> from the ambien observer (which is a sensor-to-internet bridge)
>
> m
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-19 Thread Tony Turner
M,
That is way cool!! I can let the Ambient upload to Weather Underground and 
I'll capture the sensors and use that with WeeWx to upload to my website. 
The SDR hardware looks pretty cheap. Would something like this work? 
https://www.amazon.com/Receiver-RTL2832U-Low-Cost-Compatible-Packages/dp/B015DN4DP6/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1492459242&sr=8-5&keywords=sdr+radio
 

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 3:21:57 PM UTC-5, mwall wrote:
>
>
> you can use the weewx-sdr driver to capture signals directly from your 
> acurite sensors.
>
> you can also use the weewx-sdr drive to capture signals directly from the 
> ambient (fine offset) sensors.
>
> in fact, you can use a single sdr with one instance of the weewx-sdr 
> driver to capture data from both the acurite and fine offset hardware at 
> the same time.
>
> or you can use the weewx-interceptor driver to capture the tcp/ip traffic 
> from the ambien observer (which is a sensor-to-internet bridge)
>
> m
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-19 Thread mwall


On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4, Tony Turner wrote:
>
> Craig, I'm very interested in trying this. My wife told me yesterday that 
> she has bought me an Ambient Weather 900 IP Observer since my Acurite is 
> not working the way it should. I'm not sure about the Ambient Weather unit 
> but I do know it only uploads to Weather Underground which means it won't 
> upload to my website like WeeWx does... totally unacceptable. I may just 
> try to setup the SDR thing to use with my WeeWx server. I didn't want to 
> spend any more money on any of this because it's just a tiny little hobby 
> for me and I've already spent more than I intended. I guess it would be 
> worth $25 to see if I can make it work. Oh well! at least it's not a bass 
> boat lol!
>

tony,

you can use the weewx-sdr driver to capture signals directly from your 
acurite sensors.

you can also use the weewx-sdr drive to capture signals directly from the 
ambient (fine offset) sensors.

in fact, you can use a single sdr with one instance of the weewx-sdr driver 
to capture data from both the acurite and fine offset hardware at the same 
time.

or you can use the weewx-interceptor driver to capture the tcp/ip traffic 
from the ambien observer (which is a sensor-to-internet bridge)

m

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-19 Thread Tony Turner


Craig, I'm very interested in trying this. My wife told me yesterday that 
she has bought me an Ambient Weather 900 IP Observer since my Acurite is 
not working the way it should. I'm not sure about the Ambient Weather unit 
but I do know it only uploads to Weather Underground which means it won't 
upload to my website like WeeWx does... totally unacceptable. I may just 
try to setup the SDR thing to use with my WeeWx server. I didn't want to 
spend any more money on any of this because it's just a tiny little hobby 
for me and I've already spent more than I intended. I guess it would be 
worth $25 to see if I can make it work. Oh well! at least it's not a bass 
boat lol!

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-17 Thread Craig Thom
The weewx driver is here: https://github.com/matthewwall/weewx-sdr

I don't think it's complete, and there were some things I had to work out, 
but you can search for the answers here.

One thing to keep in mind is that the pressure sensor for my Acurite 
system, and probably all the others, is in the display.  If you bypass the 
display, you'll have to find another source for pressure.

rtl_sdr is the Linux driver for the radio, and rtl_443 receives and decodes 
the transmissions from the sensors.

http://www.rtl-sdr.com/ has general info on using sdr receivers based on 
the RTL2832U chip, which I guess is intended to be used for direct digital 
TV broadcasts in other countries.  That means the radio and antenna you buy 
on ebay probably comes with TV watching software that will NOT work in the 
U.S.

But once you've got the radio and the software installed, it's all a matter 
of tweaking it to get it working.

On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 4:42:31 PM UTC-4, Tony Turner wrote:
>
> Craig that sounds pretty interesting. I assume this should be another 
> topic because I want to know more about the SDR. I have a very old Acurite 
> unit that does not have a USB interface but it's REALLY accurate. It would 
> be nice to be able to intercept the signal and use it with weewx. I assume 
> you find the frequency the sensors are transmitting and somehow tell the 
> WeeWx driver to use those signals??? If you don't mind sharing how all that 
> works I'd love to know>
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-17 Thread Tony Turner
Craig that sounds pretty interesting. I assume this should be another topic 
because I want to know more about the SDR. I have a very old Acurite unit 
that does not have a USB interface but it's REALLY accurate. It would be 
nice to be able to intercept the signal and use it with weewx. I assume you 
find the frequency the sensors are transmitting and somehow tell the WeeWx 
driver to use those signals??? If you don't mind sharing how all that works 
I'd love to know>

Thanks,
Tony

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-14 Thread Craig Thom
Software Defined Radio.  The way I am using with weewx is with a USB tuner 
built for DVB-T TV broadcasts in other countries (but not the U.S.) that 
use the RTL2832U chipset.  People discovered that these tuners could cover 
a much larger range than DVB-T and have been using them for receiving all 
kinds of stuff, including the 433 MHz signals used by wireless weather 
sensors (and a lot of other stuff in the home).

rtl_sdr handles controlling the radio, and rtl_433 decodes packets from 
known devices.  The weewx sdr driver uses rtl_433 to get the packets of 
information directly from the weather sensor.

The radio receivers are available for $10-$20 all over the place online. 
 Since they were intended for TV in other countries the antenna connection 
is often unusual, but that doesn't matter if you are using the antenna that 
comes with it.

My antenna is a monopole, so it needs to be sitting on a piece of metal to 
work best.  It's magnetic, so I've just got it stuck to the side panel of 
an old computer.

On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 12:31:23 PM UTC-4, Tony Turner wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 6:32:27 PM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
>>
>> (snip) I am also using the SDR and a Honeywell sensor from Craigslist 
>> free section.
>
>
> Maybe I'm just dumb but what is and SDR?? 
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-14 Thread Tony Turner


On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 6:32:27 PM UTC-5, Andy wrote:
>
> (snip) I am also using the SDR and a Honeywell sensor from Craigslist free 
> section.


Maybe I'm just dumb but what is and SDR?? 

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-13 Thread Craig Thom
Maybe my fan isn't running, since I've got the dual solar panel version. 
 I'll figure it out Sunday.

The sensor on my front porch must be getting some light around 6 pm, 
because it gets too high then.  Maybe I should figure out a way to get 
weewx to use the lower of the two temperature sensors to eliminate the sun 
problem.

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-4, Andy wrote:
>
> I bought the cover with the dual solar panels to help with the hot sunny 
> days in the Sacramento area. First dual panel cover failed and they sent me 
> an entire 5n1 with a dual solar panel after this post 
> https://support.acurite.com/acurite/topics/outside-temp-to-high
>
> The dual solar panel keeps the 5n1 closer to ambient, but not quite close 
> enough.  I am also using the SDR and a Honeywell sensor from Craigslist 
> free section.
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-13 Thread Andy
I bought the cover with the dual solar panels to help with the hot sunny days 
in the Sacramento area. First dual panel cover failed and they sent me an 
entire 5n1 with a dual solar panel after this post 
https://support.acurite.com/acurite/topics/outside-temp-to-high

The dual solar panel keeps the 5n1 closer to ambient, but not quite close 
enough.  I am also using the SDR and a Honeywell sensor from Craigslist free 
section.

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-13 Thread Tony Turner
Thanks Tom,
I'll spend some time this weekend and fashion some sort of shade for the 
unit. The temperature sensor is under unit supposedly in the shade with a 
fan that pulls air by it 5-1 units are crazy lol!. 

The Ambient Weather stuff looks pretty good and very reasonable but I'm 
sure they have their issues also.

Tony

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 8:34:34 PM UTC-5, Tom Keffer wrote:
>
> I wouldn't give up on your Acurite so quickly. In its price range, it's 
> actually pretty good.
>
> First, make sure your fan is working. Check it during a weekend, or ask a 
> neighbor/wife to check it.
>
> Second, make some sort of shade cover for it. Depending on the shape of 
> the sensor, a white yogurt container with ventilation holes might work. Or, 
> find something else that does fit.
>
> Third, take a look at the WU siting guide 
> . It 
> has some good tips.
>
> -tk
>
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-12 Thread Thomas Keffer
I wouldn't give up on your Acurite so quickly. In its price range, it's
actually pretty good.

First, make sure your fan is working. Check it during a weekend, or ask a
neighbor/wife to check it.

Second, make some sort of shade cover for it. Depending on the shape of the
sensor, a white yogurt container with ventilation holes might work. Or,
find something else that does fit.

Third, take a look at the WU siting guide
. It has
some good tips.

-tk


On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Tony Turner  wrote:

> Well, that's disheartening. This station was a gift from my wife and I've
> tried every way I know of to make it accurate but there just doesn't seem
> to be a way. I have two consoles and neither of them agree on temperature,
> humidity or inside temperature. The weewx server seems to read the sensors
> directly and way more accurately than the Acurite consoles. I guess I'll
> have to buy another brand of weather station. Is there an inexpensive
> station that produces accurate output? Thanks for your help.
>
> Tony
>
>
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[weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-12 Thread Tony Turner
Well, that's disheartening. This station was a gift from my wife and I've 
tried every way I know of to make it accurate but there just doesn't seem 
to be a way. I have two consoles and neither of them agree on temperature, 
humidity or inside temperature. The weewx server seems to read the sensors 
directly and way more accurately than the Acurite consoles. I guess I'll 
have to buy another brand of weather station. Is there an inexpensive 
station that produces accurate output? Thanks for your help. 

Tony


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[weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-12 Thread Craig Thom
Not that I know of, although some people have added solar cells to make the 
fan in the 5-in-1 spin faster.

Since I'm using SDR, I've decided to remap temperature and humidity to be 
read from a different sensor (the lightning one, in this case).  I thought 
I had picked a good spot, but the temperature still spiked at around the 
time the sun would be shining in that area (just later than it did on the 
5-in-1.

I am going to find another spot for it tomorrow. I may also buy or build a 
little enclosure for it.

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 12:33:38 PM UTC-4, Tony Turner wrote:
>
> I have an Acurite 01525A1 connected by USB to an OrangePI ONE running 
> Armbian Ubuntu Xenial and weewx v3.6.2. When the weather is cloudy the 
> temperature seems to be relatively accurate compared to my old weather 
> station and other stations close to me. But on really sunny days when the 
> sun comes up over the trees (around 2 pm) my temperature starts to read 
> high, it varies but lets say 6 to 8 degrees. I mounted it according to 
> Acurite's instructions... 5 feet above the ground in a location that is 
> clear of trees and other obstructions. I assume they intended for it to be 
> out in the open where rain and wind will not be blocked. Anyway, it's 
> impossible to know if the crazy little fan is working since I'm always at 
> work when it messes up. I notice it because weather underground takes it 
> down because of inaccurate date (I assume that's why it stops appearing on 
> their map). Is there a way to correct this? Maybe based on the UV from the 
> solar cell? Does anyone else have this issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Acurite not so accurate on sunny days

2017-04-12 Thread Tony Turner
That should have said "data"... I hate auto correct!

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 11:33:38 AM UTC-5, Tony Turner wrote:
>
> I have an Acurite 01525A1 connected by USB to an OrangePI ONE running 
> Armbian Ubuntu Xenial and weewx v3.6.2. When the weather is cloudy the 
> temperature seems to be relatively accurate compared to my old weather 
> station and other stations close to me. But on really sunny days when the 
> sun comes up over the trees (around 2 pm) my temperature starts to read 
> high, it varies but lets say 6 to 8 degrees. I mounted it according to 
> Acurite's instructions... 5 feet above the ground in a location that is 
> clear of trees and other obstructions. I assume they intended for it to be 
> out in the open where rain and wind will not be blocked. Anyway, it's 
> impossible to know if the crazy little fan is working since I'm always at 
> work when it messes up. I notice it because weather underground takes it 
> down because of inaccurate date (I assume that's why it stops appearing on 
> their map). Is there a way to correct this? Maybe based on the UV from the 
> solar cell? Does anyone else have this issue?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
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