[weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[Jerry Simonowits]

Thank you, for the help, seems like a clean install of Pi followed by a 
clean weewx install (and some changes from the doc in how to install) 
worked.
Thanks for your help.

Jerry KB2GCG


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[weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[Jerry Simonowits]

Hi all again,
Just wanted to let folks now, that sure enough, an hour after sending my 
last note I figured it all out. There were definitely a few things 
incorrect in the doc (glad to share my feedback if someone will point me in 
the right direction), but it's all working now. Sure did have to knock off 
a lot of rust from way back when I used to use Unix.

Thanks all,
Jerry KB2GCG

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[vince]

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:13:09 AM UTC-8, Joe Spears wrote:
>
> The Vantage Vue Console unfortunately needs the WeatherLink Package to 
> connect.  It is pricey and you don't use the software since you are using 
> weewx.  You just use the board that goes in the console for the USB 
> connectivity.  
>

Best price I can find in a quick check is $110 for this - 
https://www.scientificsales.com/Davis-Vantage-Vue-Accessories-s/37.htm 
making the whole bundle with the Vue around $385 US (plus tax and 
shipping).  VP2 looks about $140 more for the unit+logger.

(I have no affiliation with the site linked to here, just passing along 
what seems like a representative link)

Agree it's highway robbery for the logger hardware, but there's little 
option if you want to stay supported.  There are third-party homegrown 
loggers out there for much less money if you look around a bit.

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[Joe Spears]

The Vantage Vue Console unfortunately needs the WeatherLink Package to 
connect.  It is pricey and you don't use the software since you are using 
weewx.  You just use the board that goes in the console for the USB 
connectivity.  

Look for the other stations that Weewx supports if you are looking for a 
less expensive alternative.  It really does not matter since weewx and the 
pi are doing all the work.  

Look at the 
Accurite 
https://www.acurite.com/pro-weather-station-with-pro-plus-5-in-1-sensor-pc-connect-wind-and-rain.html
 
as a possible alternative.

73 Joe


On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 3:19:37 PM UTC-5, Jerry Simonowits wrote:
>
> Thank you Joe.
>
> I was looking at the Vantage Vue, but the least expensive seems to be 
> about $265, so if you have any ideas about something less expensive that 
> would be helpful.
>
> I presume the console is connected to the Pi via the USB interface ? Any 
> recommendation on model (or add on’s) ? 
>
> What you are describing seems like what I’m looking for, and we can make 
> the web server available as a resource on the mesh.
>
> Thanks again for your help with this.
>
> 73’s
> Jerry KB2GCG
>
> On Dec 18, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Joe Spears > 
> wrote:
>
> Jerry,
>
> This is easy to do out of the box.  
>
> In my set up I have a Vantage Vue Weather station in my yard.  The console 
> in my house connects wirelessly to the station.  The console then connects 
> to my Pi running weewx.  The Pi also has an apache web server.  If you 
> connected your Pi to your Arden network through one of the nodes anyone on 
> the network would be able to see the served up pages generated by weewx and 
> apache.My Pi also serves up the weather to Wunderground (KNCCONOV7) and 
> CWOP so you can see my weather in aprs.fi if you search for my call.  My 
> web pages from the Pi web server are only available on my LAN
>
> Let me know if I can be of more help.
>
> Joe AF1E
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-5, Jerry Simonowits wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm very very new to whew, so apologies in advance if this has been 
>> covered. I've seen some discussion but can't quite find what I want.
>>
>> I'm part of a team that is building a local AREDN mesh network (
>> www.aredn.org). This network will be related to offering emergency 
>> communications to various supported organizations during emergency 
>> situations where regular comms might not be available. We'll be offering a 
>> host of services (everything from phones to IM). 
>>
>> One of the items that I thought would be helpful is to be able to supply 
>> weather conditions and weewx seems to fit the bill.
>>
>> I'll be placing the weather sensor (a 5 in 1 or something similar) at the 
>> top of a tower (we have a camera there already) and the console in the 
>> building below (most of these devices seem to use 433mhz to communicate 
>> which is fine). That's the easy part.
>>
>> What I'm looking to do is have a Pi running attached to the console and 
>> serving up the weather information visible to anyone who has access to the 
>> mesh network (IOW, it would have to run as a web server so others could see 
>> it).
>>
>> Any suggestions in terms of weather devices (most of the ones that are on 
>> the tested list are either unavailable or very expensive) ? Is there a 
>> feature in weewx that could continue to send the data to the manufacturer's 
>> site as well as consume it ?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>
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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[Jerry Simonowits]

Thank you Joe.

I was looking at the Vantage Vue, but the least expensive seems to be about 
$265, so if you have any ideas about something less expensive that would be 
helpful.

I presume the console is connected to the Pi via the USB interface ? Any 
recommendation on model (or add on’s) ? 

What you are describing seems like what I’m looking for, and we can make the 
web server available as a resource on the mesh.

Thanks again for your help with this.

73’s
Jerry KB2GCG

> On Dec 18, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Joe Spears  wrote:
> 
> Jerry,
> 
> This is easy to do out of the box.  
> 
> In my set up I have a Vantage Vue Weather station in my yard.  The console in 
> my house connects wirelessly to the station.  The console then connects to my 
> Pi running weewx.  The Pi also has an apache web server.  If you connected 
> your Pi to your Arden network through one of the nodes anyone on the network 
> would be able to see the served up pages generated by weewx and apache.My 
> Pi also serves up the weather to Wunderground (KNCCONOV7) and CWOP so you can 
> see my weather in aprs.fi if you search for my call.  My web pages from the 
> Pi web server are only available on my LAN
> 
> Let me know if I can be of more help.
> 
> Joe AF1E
> 
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-5, Jerry Simonowits wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm very very new to whew, so apologies in advance if this has been covered. 
> I've seen some discussion but can't quite find what I want.
> 
> I'm part of a team that is building a local AREDN mesh network (www.aredn.org 
> ). This network will be related to offering emergency 
> communications to various supported organizations during emergency situations 
> where regular comms might not be available. We'll be offering a host of 
> services (everything from phones to IM). 
> 
> One of the items that I thought would be helpful is to be able to supply 
> weather conditions and weewx seems to fit the bill.
> 
> I'll be placing the weather sensor (a 5 in 1 or something similar) at the top 
> of a tower (we have a camera there already) and the console in the building 
> below (most of these devices seem to use 433mhz to communicate which is 
> fine). That's the easy part.
> 
> What I'm looking to do is have a Pi running attached to the console and 
> serving up the weather information visible to anyone who has access to the 
> mesh network (IOW, it would have to run as a web server so others could see 
> it).
> 
> Any suggestions in terms of weather devices (most of the ones that are on the 
> tested list are either unavailable or very expensive) ? Is there a feature in 
> weewx that could continue to send the data to the manufacturer's site as well 
> as consume it ?
> 
> Jerry
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[weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[Joe Spears]

Jerry,

This is easy to do out of the box.  

In my set up I have a Vantage Vue Weather station in my yard.  The console 
in my house connects wirelessly to the station.  The console then connects 
to my Pi running weewx.  The Pi also has an apache web server.  If you 
connected your Pi to your Arden network through one of the nodes anyone on 
the network would be able to see the served up pages generated by weewx and 
apache.My Pi also serves up the weather to Wunderground (KNCCONOV7) and 
CWOP so you can see my weather in aprs.fi if you search for my call.  My 
web pages from the Pi web server are only available on my LAN

Let me know if I can be of more help.

Joe AF1E

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-5, Jerry Simonowits wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm very very new to whew, so apologies in advance if this has been 
> covered. I've seen some discussion but can't quite find what I want.
>
> I'm part of a team that is building a local AREDN mesh network (
> www.aredn.org). This network will be related to offering emergency 
> communications to various supported organizations during emergency 
> situations where regular comms might not be available. We'll be offering a 
> host of services (everything from phones to IM). 
>
> One of the items that I thought would be helpful is to be able to supply 
> weather conditions and weewx seems to fit the bill.
>
> I'll be placing the weather sensor (a 5 in 1 or something similar) at the 
> top of a tower (we have a camera there already) and the console in the 
> building below (most of these devices seem to use 433mhz to communicate 
> which is fine). That's the easy part.
>
> What I'm looking to do is have a Pi running attached to the console and 
> serving up the weather information visible to anyone who has access to the 
> mesh network (IOW, it would have to run as a web server so others could see 
> it).
>
> Any suggestions in terms of weather devices (most of the ones that are on 
> the tested list are either unavailable or very expensive) ? Is there a 
> feature in weewx that could continue to send the data to the manufacturer's 
> site as well as consume it ?
>
> Jerry
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Integration with AREDN mesh network

[mwall]

jerry,

sounds like a lovely project!

consider writing down your requirements first, then see which combination 
of hardware will satisfy those requirements.  clarifying the requirements 
now will also help you manage the system as requirements and priorities 
change (and when you delegate the climbs up to the tower :)

unless you enjoy climbing towers, you probably want a solution that does 
not require much physical attention.  some of the most common first-person 
attention that a sensor cluster needs include clearing the rain bucket of 
debris (how close to trees and birds?), removing spiders from the rain 
collection mechanism (depends on the location), changing batteries (9-18 
months, or never, depending on the hardware), changing/lubricating bearings 
(every 2 years in a saltwater environment), replacing broken sensors (due 
to hail, uv damage followed by snow, etc).

you might want an anemometer at the top of the tower, with a wired or 
wireless connection to the rest of the instruments at or near the ground.

do you have wired or wireless internet access at the tower?

do you have power at the tower, or does the whole thing need to be battery 
powered?

is there adequate bonding/grounding for lightning strikes?

is there a climate controlled space at the tower, or does everything need 
to be in its own weathertight container?

there are *many* online services to which you can feed data.  some of those 
are publicly accessible, others are accessible only to someone with a 
username and password.  many of the manufacturer's sites tend to be the 
latter.  weewx can upload to pretty much any of them.  what do you want 
users of your data to be able do/see?  do you want the weather data 
integrated into another web site, or in its own set of pages?  if you 
provide some examples of weather sites that you like, i'm sure there are 
people reading this who could provide similar templates and/or experience 
with those sites.

you probably have considered all of these things, but if you make the 
requirements clear you'll get more focused answers.

m

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