[weewx-user] Re: Need help: Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi and weewx Interceptor

2021-01-17 Thread galfert
It is not true that WU doesn't let you download your own data. The 
confusion is that you can't download data the old way with a .csv download 
file. The new way to download your own data is to use an API key that you 
can generate under your account setting. Then you must use this new API 
method to download your data. There is even a WeeWX extension to use this 
new method that has been created.

The reason for this change is that before anyone could download any amount 
of data and there were no controls to limit bandwidth usage. With the new 
API key method you are limited in the amount of bandwidth you can use on a 
monthly basis. This limits bandwidth abuse and it allows WU to better run 
their servers and reduce costs. If you are a business and you were 
previously downloading tons of data from WU, then those efforts have been 
blocked. You'll now have to purchase a commercial license in order to 
continue to download the amounts of data that you were before. You could 
say that a few bad apples with their abuse ruined the simplicity of the 
previous .csv download method. There were a few years where WU servers were 
hardly ever up. Sure things are not still perfect with WU but they 
certainly are a lot better than they were before these controls were 
implemented.




On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM UTC-5 Steinwolf wrote:

> Hello,
> I need help with the Bresser 6in1 Pro Wifi. (sends data to 
> WeatherUnderground). Unfortunatelly it is the "stupid" not FINEOffset 
> version, so I have to use the interceptor, but I'm unable to get the 
> interceptor working. 
> I'm really unhappy with WU (now they even dont let you download your own 
> data!) and thats why I will use weewx. 
> By the way - this whole raspbian, linux,... thing is also new to me, so I 
> struggle with this all and can only do things I found on the internet. So 
> please, in case you write back, dont think I know anything - tell me like 
> I'm a litte kid or so ;)
>
> My setup: 
> Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi (the one with the display) (IP 
> 192.168.188.60- I guess, because the Bresser configuration site is here)
> Raspberry Pi3 (with weewx, interceptor and apache)
> Fritz.Box as router
>
> IPs: 
> Bresser Weather IP 192.168.188.60 (I guess, because the Bresser 
> configuration site is here) 
> Raspbi IP LAN 192.168.188.34, IP WLan  192.168.188.35 
> (raspbiweather.fritz.box also works) 
> FritzBox IP (as gateway?) 192.168.188.1
>
> The problem:
> I permanently get this error:
>
> pi@raspbiWeather:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx status
> ● weewx.service - LSB: weewx weather system
>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/weewx; generated)
>Active: active (exited) since Sun 2021-01-17 13:50:40 GMT; 3s ago
>  Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
>   Process: 2410 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/weewx start (code=exited, 
> status=0/SUCCESS)
>
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine:   self._server = Consumer.TCPServer(address, 
> port, handler)
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine: File "/usr/share/weewx/user/interceptor.py", line 
> 584, in __init__
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine:   TCPServer.__init__(self, (address, int(port)), 
> handler)
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine: File "/usr/lib/python3.7/socketserver.py", line 
> 452, in __init__
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine:   self.server_bind()
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine: File "/usr/lib/python3.7/socketserver.py", line 
> 466, in server_bind
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine:   self.socket.bind(self.server_address)
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> weewx.engine:   OSError: [Errno 99] Die angeforderte Adresse kann 
> nicht zugewiesen werden
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> __main__: Unable to load driver: [Errno 99] Die angeforderte Adresse kann 
> nicht zugewiesen werden
> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
> __main__:   Exiting...
>
> So that " Die angeforderte Adresse kann nicht zugewiesen werden" means in 
> english "The requested address cannot be assigned".
>
> I think that the IP address of the PWS is wrong or so?
> If I do (didn't know what the commands exactly do, but found this on 
> another help thread of some user) "sudo tcpdump -Anpl -s0 -w - -i eth0 src 
> 192.168.188.60 | stdbuf -oL strings -n8", I get (after a few seconds 
> waiting and Cntr+C) this:
>
> tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 
> 262144 bytes
> _services
> 3881D711F7A3-mysimplelink
> 3881D711F7A3-mysimplelink
> 3881D711F7

[weewx-user] Re: Need help: Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi and weewx Interceptor

2021-01-20 Thread Steinwolf
Oh Ok. So I think I maybe misunderstood some posts I found online. So I 
dont pay anything aslong as I dont download the data to frequently? In some 
postings they say, that you have to pay after one year anyway.
I saw the API thing before, but here you can only download the real time 
data, I guess. For me it would be enough to download all data once a month 
or so. Is this possible?

Whatever - I would prefer to have a self-managed datalogger for many 
reasons.
The most important reason is, that I would also see the inside temperature 
which is not possible because of " privacy policies". Also there is one 
more temp-sensor, which also dont show up.
And to have "everything in my hands".

So can anyone help me?

BR,
Steinwolf
galfert schrieb am Sonntag, 17. Januar 2021 um 17:12:55 UTC+1:

> It is not true that WU doesn't let you download your own data. The 
> confusion is that you can't download data the old way with a .csv download 
> file. The new way to download your own data is to use an API key that you 
> can generate under your account setting. Then you must use this new API 
> method to download your data. There is even a WeeWX extension to use this 
> new method that has been created.
>
> The reason for this change is that before anyone could download any amount 
> of data and there were no controls to limit bandwidth usage. With the new 
> API key method you are limited in the amount of bandwidth you can use on a 
> monthly basis. This limits bandwidth abuse and it allows WU to better run 
> their servers and reduce costs. If you are a business and you were 
> previously downloading tons of data from WU, then those efforts have been 
> blocked. You'll now have to purchase a commercial license in order to 
> continue to download the amounts of data that you were before. You could 
> say that a few bad apples with their abuse ruined the simplicity of the 
> previous .csv download method. There were a few years where WU servers were 
> hardly ever up. Sure things are not still perfect with WU but they 
> certainly are a lot better than they were before these controls were 
> implemented.
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM UTC-5 Steinwolf wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I need help with the Bresser 6in1 Pro Wifi. (sends data to 
>> WeatherUnderground). Unfortunatelly it is the "stupid" not FINEOffset 
>> version, so I have to use the interceptor, but I'm unable to get the 
>> interceptor working. 
>> I'm really unhappy with WU (now they even dont let you download your own 
>> data!) and thats why I will use weewx. 
>> By the way - this whole raspbian, linux,... thing is also new to me, so I 
>> struggle with this all and can only do things I found on the internet. So 
>> please, in case you write back, dont think I know anything - tell me like 
>> I'm a litte kid or so ;)
>>
>> My setup: 
>> Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi (the one with the display) (IP 
>> 192.168.188.60- I guess, because the Bresser configuration site is here)
>> Raspberry Pi3 (with weewx, interceptor and apache)
>> Fritz.Box as router
>>
>> IPs: 
>> Bresser Weather IP 192.168.188.60 (I guess, because the Bresser 
>> configuration site is here) 
>> Raspbi IP LAN 192.168.188.34, IP WLan  192.168.188.35 
>> (raspbiweather.fritz.box also works) 
>> FritzBox IP (as gateway?) 192.168.188.1
>>
>> The problem:
>> I permanently get this error:
>>
>> pi@raspbiWeather:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx status
>> ● weewx.service - LSB: weewx weather system
>>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/weewx; generated)
>>Active: active (exited) since Sun 2021-01-17 13:50:40 GMT; 3s ago
>>  Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
>>   Process: 2410 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/weewx start (code=exited, 
>> status=0/SUCCESS)
>>
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine:   self._server = Consumer.TCPServer(address, 
>> port, handler)
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine: File "/usr/share/weewx/user/interceptor.py", line 
>> 584, in __init__
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine:   TCPServer.__init__(self, (address, int(port)), 
>> handler)
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine: File "/usr/lib/python3.7/socketserver.py", line 
>> 452, in __init__
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine:   self.server_bind()
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine: File "/usr/lib/python3.7/socketserver.py", line 
>> 466, in server_bind
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine:   self.socket.bind(self.server_address)
>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>> weewx.engine:   OSError: [Errno 99] Die angeforderte Adresse kann 
>> nicht zugewie

[weewx-user] Re: Need help: Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi and weewx Interceptor

2021-01-20 Thread Steinwolf
Sorry I cannot edit my previous post - So here as additional question - Do 
you maybe have the link to the weewx extension? Didn't find it here 
https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki.

Steinwolf schrieb am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2021 um 21:03:43 UTC+1:

> Oh Ok. So I think I maybe misunderstood some posts I found online. So I 
> dont pay anything aslong as I dont download the data to frequently? In some 
> postings they say, that you have to pay after one year anyway.
> I saw the API thing before, but here you can only download the real time 
> data, I guess. For me it would be enough to download all data once a month 
> or so. Is this possible?
>
> Whatever - I would prefer to have a self-managed datalogger for many 
> reasons.
> The most important reason is, that I would also see the inside temperature 
> which is not possible because of " privacy policies". Also there is one 
> more temp-sensor, which also dont show up.
> And to have "everything in my hands".
>
> So can anyone help me?
>
> BR,
> Steinwolf
> galfert schrieb am Sonntag, 17. Januar 2021 um 17:12:55 UTC+1:
>
>> It is not true that WU doesn't let you download your own data. The 
>> confusion is that you can't download data the old way with a .csv download 
>> file. The new way to download your own data is to use an API key that you 
>> can generate under your account setting. Then you must use this new API 
>> method to download your data. There is even a WeeWX extension to use this 
>> new method that has been created.
>>
>> The reason for this change is that before anyone could download any 
>> amount of data and there were no controls to limit bandwidth usage. With 
>> the new API key method you are limited in the amount of bandwidth you can 
>> use on a monthly basis. This limits bandwidth abuse and it allows WU to 
>> better run their servers and reduce costs. If you are a business and you 
>> were previously downloading tons of data from WU, then those efforts have 
>> been blocked. You'll now have to purchase a commercial license in order to 
>> continue to download the amounts of data that you were before. You could 
>> say that a few bad apples with their abuse ruined the simplicity of the 
>> previous .csv download method. There were a few years where WU servers were 
>> hardly ever up. Sure things are not still perfect with WU but they 
>> certainly are a lot better than they were before these controls were 
>> implemented.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM UTC-5 Steinwolf wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I need help with the Bresser 6in1 Pro Wifi. (sends data to 
>>> WeatherUnderground). Unfortunatelly it is the "stupid" not FINEOffset 
>>> version, so I have to use the interceptor, but I'm unable to get the 
>>> interceptor working. 
>>> I'm really unhappy with WU (now they even dont let you download your own 
>>> data!) and thats why I will use weewx. 
>>> By the way - this whole raspbian, linux,... thing is also new to me, so 
>>> I struggle with this all and can only do things I found on the internet. So 
>>> please, in case you write back, dont think I know anything - tell me like 
>>> I'm a litte kid or so ;)
>>>
>>> My setup: 
>>> Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi (the one with the display) (IP 
>>> 192.168.188.60- I guess, because the Bresser configuration site is here)
>>> Raspberry Pi3 (with weewx, interceptor and apache)
>>> Fritz.Box as router
>>>
>>> IPs: 
>>> Bresser Weather IP 192.168.188.60 (I guess, because the Bresser 
>>> configuration site is here) 
>>> Raspbi IP LAN 192.168.188.34, IP WLan  192.168.188.35 
>>> (raspbiweather.fritz.box also works) 
>>> FritzBox IP (as gateway?) 192.168.188.1
>>>
>>> The problem:
>>> I permanently get this error:
>>>
>>> pi@raspbiWeather:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx status
>>> ● weewx.service - LSB: weewx weather system
>>>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/weewx; generated)
>>>Active: active (exited) since Sun 2021-01-17 13:50:40 GMT; 3s ago
>>>  Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
>>>   Process: 2410 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/weewx start (code=exited, 
>>> status=0/SUCCESS)
>>>
>>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>>> weewx.engine:   self._server = Consumer.TCPServer(address, 
>>> port, handler)
>>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>>> weewx.engine: File "/usr/share/weewx/user/interceptor.py", line 
>>> 584, in __init__
>>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>>> weewx.engine:   TCPServer.__init__(self, (address, int(port)), 
>>> handler)
>>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>>> weewx.engine: File "/usr/lib/python3.7/socketserver.py", line 
>>> 452, in __init__
>>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>>> weewx.engine:   self.server_bind()
>>> Jän 17 13:50:40 raspbiWeather python3[2426]: weewx[2426] CRITICAL 
>>> weewx.engine: File "/usr/

[weewx-user] Re: Need help: Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi and weewx Interceptor

2021-01-20 Thread galfert
The tool to import from WU is built into WeeWX. It is called wee_import. 
There may be an update for it though that is not part of WeeWXnot sure. 
I've actually never used it.

I don't know what the data limit is nor how much you need to import. I 
suppose you could do it in chunks if necessary. You'll never have to pay 
even after a year. The API key that you get as a contributor is just 
limited per day to 500 queries and 10 times per minute. Don't ask me to 
explain that. That is what I read and I don't have more details. I'm sure 
that you'll learn more as you learn to work with the wee_import. You should 
be able to grab all of your history. It may take a while but I don't see 
why it wouldn't be possible.



On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 3:13:53 PM UTC-5 Steinwolf wrote:

> Sorry I cannot edit my previous post - So here as additional question - Do 
> you maybe have the link to the weewx extension? Didn't find it here 
> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki.
>
> Steinwolf schrieb am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2021 um 21:03:43 UTC+1:
>
>> Oh Ok. So I think I maybe misunderstood some posts I found online. So I 
>> dont pay anything aslong as I dont download the data to frequently? In some 
>> postings they say, that you have to pay after one year anyway.
>> I saw the API thing before, but here you can only download the real time 
>> data, I guess. For me it would be enough to download all data once a month 
>> or so. Is this possible?
>>
>> Whatever - I would prefer to have a self-managed datalogger for many 
>> reasons.
>> The most important reason is, that I would also see the inside 
>> temperature which is not possible because of " privacy policies". Also 
>> there is one more temp-sensor, which also dont show up.
>> And to have "everything in my hands".
>>
>> So can anyone help me?
>>
>> BR,
>> Steinwolf
>> galfert schrieb am Sonntag, 17. Januar 2021 um 17:12:55 UTC+1:
>>
>>> It is not true that WU doesn't let you download your own data. The 
>>> confusion is that you can't download data the old way with a .csv download 
>>> file. The new way to download your own data is to use an API key that you 
>>> can generate under your account setting. Then you must use this new API 
>>> method to download your data. There is even a WeeWX extension to use this 
>>> new method that has been created.
>>>
>>> The reason for this change is that before anyone could download any 
>>> amount of data and there were no controls to limit bandwidth usage. With 
>>> the new API key method you are limited in the amount of bandwidth you can 
>>> use on a monthly basis. This limits bandwidth abuse and it allows WU to 
>>> better run their servers and reduce costs. If you are a business and you 
>>> were previously downloading tons of data from WU, then those efforts have 
>>> been blocked. You'll now have to purchase a commercial license in order to 
>>> continue to download the amounts of data that you were before. You could 
>>> say that a few bad apples with their abuse ruined the simplicity of the 
>>> previous .csv download method. There were a few years where WU servers were 
>>> hardly ever up. Sure things are not still perfect with WU but they 
>>> certainly are a lot better than they were before these controls were 
>>> implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 17, 2021 at 10:41:11 AM UTC-5 Steinwolf wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
 I need help with the Bresser 6in1 Pro Wifi. (sends data to 
 WeatherUnderground). Unfortunatelly it is the "stupid" not FINEOffset 
 version, so I have to use the interceptor, but I'm unable to get the 
 interceptor working. 
 I'm really unhappy with WU (now they even dont let you download your 
 own data!) and thats why I will use weewx. 
 By the way - this whole raspbian, linux,... thing is also new to me, so 
 I struggle with this all and can only do things I found on the internet. 
 So 
 please, in case you write back, dont think I know anything - tell me like 
 I'm a litte kid or so ;)

 My setup: 
 Bresser Weather 6in1 Pro WiFi (the one with the display) (IP 
 192.168.188.60- I guess, because the Bresser configuration site is here)
 Raspberry Pi3 (with weewx, interceptor and apache)
 Fritz.Box as router

 IPs: 
 Bresser Weather IP 192.168.188.60 (I guess, because the Bresser 
 configuration site is here) 
 Raspbi IP LAN 192.168.188.34, IP WLan  192.168.188.35 
 (raspbiweather.fritz.box also works) 
 FritzBox IP (as gateway?) 192.168.188.1

 The problem:
 I permanently get this error:

 pi@raspbiWeather:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/weewx status
 ● weewx.service - LSB: weewx weather system
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/weewx; generated)
Active: active (exited) since Sun 2021-01-17 13:50:40 GMT; 3s ago
  Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
   Process: 2410 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/weewx start (code=exited, 
 status=0/SUCCESS)

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