[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[Sam Walton]

Hi Gary

I've noticed that WU is not displaying wind direction too. It seems to be 
displaying on the weewx local site but not WU. I did not have this problem 
running Weewx on Raspbian before and I'm guessing its a driver issue. I've 
followed your instructions and downloaded the latest update to the driver. 

Attached is some debug logs and I've noticed that rapid fire isn't sending 
the direction logs all the time.

PI: Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.4.38-v7+ armv7l)
The Weatherstation is: Oregon Scientific WMR300
WU Link: 
https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=INEWSOUT1234 

Thanks again

Sam

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 7:29:40 PM UTC+11, gjr80 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> A few things to consider:
>
> (1) The WMR300 driver is still being actively worked on so there is a 
> possibility it may still have some bugs.
>
> (2) Noting point 1, are you using the latest version of the WMR300 driver 
> or just the version included in the weeWX release you are using? The WMR300 
> driver in the latest weeWX release was v0.18 (not sure what version of 
> weeWX you are using), there have been 4 commits since then and the driver 
> is currenly at v0.19rc4. You can use something like this to download the 
> latest version of the driver:
>
> $ cd /usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers
> $ sudo mv wmr300.py wmr300.py.orig
> $ sudo wget https:
> //raw.githubusercontent.com/weewx/weewx/master/bin/weewx/drivers/wmr300.py 
> 
>
> to use the new driver just stop then start weeWX. If you have problems 
> just delete wmr300.py and rename the .orig copy to revert to your original 
> driver.
>
> (3) The WMR300 emits what is known as partial loop packets ie the loop 
> packets do not contain all observations. WU has issues if it receives data 
> that does not contain all fields, so when using rapidfire partial packet 
> stations usually do not produce the desired result. In an attempt to deal 
> with this the weeWX WU uploader uses caching of loop packets so even though 
> the WMR300 emits partial packets rapidfire should work. There have been 
> some issue with this caching since it was implemented so it is possible 
> some issues remain.
>
> (4) The real test is to monitor the data being sent to WU by weeWX. This 
> can achieved by editing weewx.conf and setting debug = 2, save weewx.conf 
> then stop/start weeWX. If you monitor the log you will see the data being 
> sent by weeWX to WU. If the correct data is there the issue is WU, if not 
> then its most likely the driver/station. If in any doubt post the log from 
> weeWX startup, don't delete anything.
>
> (5) You can run weeWX directly 
>  to monitor the 
> loop data being generated by weeWX and the driver. It might be worthwhile 
> to do this and see whether you are getting the 2.5 second wind updates you 
> think you are. The loop data is on the lines starting with LOOP:, feel free 
> to post a screen capture of the output if you have trouble interpreting it.
>
> Gary 
>
> On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:52:07 UTC+10, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> weewx and underground im talking about, the wind gust updates every 2.5 
>> seconds but wind and wind direction updates every 5 minute..
>>
>> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 14:19:48 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>>
>>> are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, 
>>> or between weewx and wunderground? 
>>>
>>> since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best station 
>>> to be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the archive 
>>> records, and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:
>>>
 i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please


 On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for 
> wind and direction... :(
>
> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>
>> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir 
>>> and wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it 
>>> measures in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>>>
>>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[Andrew Milner]

If you are seeing odd things on the WU site - it is their problem!!

I output only archive data every 5 minutes

I just watched my site on WU and in the space of 2 minutes WU said I last 
reported 6 inutes ago, 3 minutes ago, 6 seconds ago, 1 minute ago, 2 
minutes ago and so on
During that same period the wind direction changed, the gust speed changed, 
and the wind average speed changed

How WU managed to do all this in a 2 minute period, with at most one extra 
report from me defies all logic!!  I do not use rapidfire at all.  Where 
these other values were coming from I have no idea!!

The only convincing information is the contents of LOOP, REC and as Gary 
suggested the debug info to see what data is actually being sent to WU



On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 16:56:25 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> my english is not good enough fyi, alright then. in wunderground rapidfire 
> wind gust updates every 2.5 seconds but I cant say this stuff for wind and 
> wind direction. I hope we can understand each other easily, thanks a lot.
>
> 23 Ocak 2018 Salı 11:09:16 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>
>> I still do not understand exactly.  The wmr300 outputs what is known as 
>> 'partial packets' - this means it does not output every reading in every 
>> packet.  See the weewx hardware manual for more information.
>>
>> windgust updates every 2.5 seconds - where??  On console?? in weewx LOOP 
>> packet??, in weewx REC packet??, in wunderground rapidfire??  in 
>> wunderground table??
>> wind and wind direction update every 5 minutes - where??  On console??  
>> in weewx LOOP packet??  In weewx REC packet??  in archive database??  On 
>> wunderground table??
>>
>> the wind and winddir should indeed be updated in LOOP data every 2-3 
>> seconds, but weewx only updates pages every archive interval ie every 5 
>> minutes if that is your archive period.  Weewx does not do a realtime 
>> display although there is the meso extension and others that can provide 
>> real time displays from LOOP data.
>>
>> Normally weewx only updates wunderground every archive interval also, but 
>> rapidfire can be invoked.  wunderground do however say to use either 
>> rapidfire or archive interval, and not both.  |Rapidfire with wmr300 can be 
>> problematic as not all data is in every loop packet, and weewx has had to 
>> implement a form of cache to try and cope with the wmr300 and rapidfire.
>>
>> Perhaps you could try and explain in more detail what the problem is 
>> please, what you are trying to achieve and what is happening that is not 
>> correct.  The more detail you give us the more chance we have of explaining 
>> or helping.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 09:52:07 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> weewx and underground im talking about, the wind gust updates every 2.5 
>>> seconds but wind and wind direction updates every 5 minute..
>>>
>>> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 14:19:48 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:

 are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, 
 or between weewx and wunderground? 

 since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best 
 station to be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the 
 archive 
 records, and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.

 On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:

> i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please
>
>
> On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for 
>> wind and direction... :(
>>
>> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>>
>>> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir 
 and wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it 
 measures in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks

>>>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[sinantc34]

my english is not good enough fyi, alright then. in wunderground rapidfire 
wind gust updates every 2.5 seconds but I cant say this stuff for wind and 
wind direction. I hope we can understand each other easily, thanks a lot.

23 Ocak 2018 Salı 11:09:16 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>
> I still do not understand exactly.  The wmr300 outputs what is known as 
> 'partial packets' - this means it does not output every reading in every 
> packet.  See the weewx hardware manual for more information.
>
> windgust updates every 2.5 seconds - where??  On console?? in weewx LOOP 
> packet??, in weewx REC packet??, in wunderground rapidfire??  in 
> wunderground table??
> wind and wind direction update every 5 minutes - where??  On console??  in 
> weewx LOOP packet??  In weewx REC packet??  in archive database??  On 
> wunderground table??
>
> the wind and winddir should indeed be updated in LOOP data every 2-3 
> seconds, but weewx only updates pages every archive interval ie every 5 
> minutes if that is your archive period.  Weewx does not do a realtime 
> display although there is the meso extension and others that can provide 
> real time displays from LOOP data.
>
> Normally weewx only updates wunderground every archive interval also, but 
> rapidfire can be invoked.  wunderground do however say to use either 
> rapidfire or archive interval, and not both.  |Rapidfire with wmr300 can be 
> problematic as not all data is in every loop packet, and weewx has had to 
> implement a form of cache to try and cope with the wmr300 and rapidfire.
>
> Perhaps you could try and explain in more detail what the problem is 
> please, what you are trying to achieve and what is happening that is not 
> correct.  The more detail you give us the more chance we have of explaining 
> or helping.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 09:52:07 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> weewx and underground im talking about, the wind gust updates every 2.5 
>> seconds but wind and wind direction updates every 5 minute..
>>
>> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 14:19:48 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>>
>>> are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, 
>>> or between weewx and wunderground? 
>>>
>>> since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best station 
>>> to be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the archive 
>>> records, and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:
>>>
 i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please


 On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for 
> wind and direction... :(
>
> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>
>> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir 
>>> and wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it 
>>> measures in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>>>
>>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[gjr80]

Hi,

A few things to consider:

(1) The WMR300 driver is still being actively worked on so there is a 
possibility it may still have some bugs.

(2) Noting point 1, are you using the latest version of the WMR300 driver 
or just the version included in the weeWX release you are using? The WMR300 
driver in the latest weeWX release was v0.18 (not sure what version of 
weeWX you are using), there have been 4 commits since then and the driver 
is currenly at v0.19rc4. You can use something like this to download the 
latest version of the driver:

$ cd /usr/share/weewx/weewx/drivers
$ sudo mv wmr300.py wmr300.py.orig
$ sudo wget https:
//raw.githubusercontent.com/weewx/weewx/master/bin/weewx/drivers/wmr300.py 


to use the new driver just stop then start weeWX. If you have problems just 
delete wmr300.py and rename the .orig copy to revert to your original 
driver.

(3) The WMR300 emits what is known as partial loop packets ie the loop 
packets do not contain all observations. WU has issues if it receives data 
that does not contain all fields, so when using rapidfire partial packet 
stations usually do not produce the desired result. In an attempt to deal 
with this the weeWX WU uploader uses caching of loop packets so even though 
the WMR300 emits partial packets rapidfire should work. There have been 
some issue with this caching since it was implemented so it is possible 
some issues remain.

(4) The real test is to monitor the data being sent to WU by weeWX. This 
can achieved by editing weewx.conf and setting debug = 2, save weewx.conf 
then stop/start weeWX. If you monitor the log you will see the data being 
sent by weeWX to WU. If the correct data is there the issue is WU, if not 
then its most likely the driver/station. If in any doubt post the log from 
weeWX startup, don't delete anything.

(5) You can run weeWX directly 
 to monitor the loop 
data being generated by weeWX and the driver. It might be worthwhile to do 
this and see whether you are getting the 2.5 second wind updates you think 
you are. The loop data is on the lines starting with LOOP:, feel free to 
post a screen capture of the output if you have trouble interpreting it.

Gary 

On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 17:52:07 UTC+10, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> weewx and underground im talking about, the wind gust updates every 2.5 
> seconds but wind and wind direction updates every 5 minute..
>
> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 14:19:48 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>
>> are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, or 
>> between weewx and wunderground? 
>>
>> since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best station 
>> to be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the archive 
>> records, and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.
>>
>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:
>>
>>> i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for 
 wind and direction... :(

 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>
> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir 
>> and wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it 
>> measures in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[Andrew Milner]

I still do not understand exactly.  The wmr300 outputs what is known as 
'partial packets' - this means it does not output every reading in every 
packet.  See the weewx hardware manual for more information.

windgust updates every 2.5 seconds - where??  On console?? in weewx LOOP 
packet??, in weewx REC packet??, in wunderground rapidfire??  in 
wunderground table??
wind and wind direction update every 5 minutes - where??  On console??  in 
weewx LOOP packet??  In weewx REC packet??  in archive database??  On 
wunderground table??

the wind and winddir should indeed be updated in LOOP data every 2-3 
seconds, but weewx only updates pages every archive interval ie every 5 
minutes if that is your archive period.  Weewx does not do a realtime 
display although there is the meso extension and others that can provide 
real time displays from LOOP data.

Normally weewx only updates wunderground every archive interval also, but 
rapidfire can be invoked.  wunderground do however say to use either 
rapidfire or archive interval, and not both.  |Rapidfire with wmr300 can be 
problematic as not all data is in every loop packet, and weewx has had to 
implement a form of cache to try and cope with the wmr300 and rapidfire.

Perhaps you could try and explain in more detail what the problem is 
please, what you are trying to achieve and what is happening that is not 
correct.  The more detail you give us the more chance we have of explaining 
or helping.



On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 09:52:07 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> weewx and underground im talking about, the wind gust updates every 2.5 
> seconds but wind and wind direction updates every 5 minute..
>
> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 14:19:48 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>
>> are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, or 
>> between weewx and wunderground? 
>>
>> since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best station 
>> to be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the archive 
>> records, and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.
>>
>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:
>>
>>> i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for 
 wind and direction... :(

 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>
> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir 
>> and wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it 
>> measures in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[sinantc34]

weewx and underground im talking about, the wind gust updates every 2.5 
seconds but wind and wind direction updates every 5 minute..

22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 14:19:48 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>
> are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, or 
> between weewx and wunderground? 
>
> since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best station 
> to be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the archive 
> records, and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.
>
> On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:
>
>> i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for 
>>> wind and direction... :(
>>>
>>> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:

 set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf





 On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir and 
> wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it 
> measures 
> in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>


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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[Andrew Milner]

are you talking about a problem between the weather station and weewx, or 
between weewx and wunderground? 

since the wmr300 emits partial packets it is not really the best station to 
be using rapid fire - I would suggest uploading just the archive records, 
and not use rapidfire to get more consistent results.

On Monday, 22 January 2018 13:14:56 UTC+2, Andrew Milner wrote:

> i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please
>
>
> On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for wind 
>> and direction... :(
>>
>> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>>
>>> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir and 
 wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it measures 
 in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks

>>>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[Andrew Milner]

i don't understand your exact problem - can you explain more please


On Monday, 22 January 2018 12:56:36 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for wind 
> and direction... :(
>
> 22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>>
>> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir and 
>>> wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it measures 
>>> in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>>>
>>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[sinantc34]

It is true, wind gust sends every 2.5 second but I cant say this for wind 
and direction... :(

22 Ocak 2018 Pazartesi 12:17:03 UTC+3 tarihinde Andrew Milner yazdı:
>
> set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir and 
>> wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it measures 
>> in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: wmr300 avg winddir and wind

[Andrew Milner]

set rapidfire = True in wunderground section of weewx.conf





On Monday, 22 January 2018 08:32:31 UTC+2, sina...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, I am senior school student and I cant disable send avg winddir and 
> wind speed to wunderground. How can I send wind direction what it measures 
> in every 2.5 seconds? Thanks
>

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