Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania

2010-08-06 Thread Alfred Anguzu
Good People from West Nile,

I have read with great concern the issues raised in districtmania. It points to 
a malaise that needs to be urgently addressed by well intentioned sons and 
daughters of WestNile. The time for that redemption is NOW. The criteria for 
the 
creation of Districts is clear (other extraordinary factors notwithstanding) 
and 
I don't want to labour the point. Look at the case of Bushenyi where the 
District gave birth to 4 new districts. You will be amazed at how the people of 
 Bushenyi are progressing despite the fragmentation. Good Folks, unless we 
start 
looking at real developmental issues and the bigger picture, we shall fail to 
develop our region and posterity will judge as very harshly. There could have 
been instances of clash of egos, cheap populism, local politics, hatred, malice 
and the like, but we need to forget the past and progresseively chart the way 
forward.  We shall not develop if we are divided and most especially if the 
people who are fueling divisionism are the current stock of elites like us. For 
your information, my mother originates from Terego County and my father from 
Maracha. I got my first dose of Primary Education (P.1 to P.4) at Alua Primary 
School in Ayivu County and my wife comes from Terego County. What do I gain 
from 
divisionism arising out of the creation of districts? Let us unite against the 
negative forces that are trying to drive a rift among us. Long Live the good 
people of West Nile.





From: Aluma Adam aluma...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Thu, 5 August, 2010 22:28:15
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania


Dear All,

It is not true at all in my considered view that the creation of a district 
does 
bring division among the local people, how???! This line of argument is devoid 
of technical and administrative sense and science, otherwise, the Parliament of 
Uganda would not approve such Districts.

The original creation of Moyo, Nebbi and Arua in WestNile never caused division 
that most of us who see the archives have been able to reveal. It is bad 
politics, weak personalities and cheap leadership that are the real problem 
here and must be dealt with head on with the sobriety it deserves.

A political 'mix' of issues but narrow objectivity would at best yield a cousin 
to anarchy..

Keep the thread running.

Adam Aluma 




--- On Thu, 8/5/10, banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


From: banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:46 PM


My brother Drani,

There was no other way to express this than you have done. For those who are 
not 
in Arua, they have not seen what you have seen. Thanks for having had the 
heart 
to let them know as an insider. Who does not know that you are one of the 
seasoned MCs in the greater Arua district with a strong command of the both 
the 
english language and the lugbara dialect? For those who believed that creation 
of districts at almost every sub county was a way of bringing services closure 
to the people, be assured that it is not the case. It is a hectic plan to 
disenfranchise the once united and strong people. What it simply means is that 
be occuppied with your local hatred so that you don't have the strength to 
fight 
any external war. Let us be careful and resist this cancer before it 
infiltrates 
other upcoming ventures like the public university. How we do that, I don't 
know.

God save us,

Ismail

 




From: Andua Drani anduadr...@yahoo.co.uk
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Thu, 5 August, 2010 18:11:27
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania


 Dear all,

I have followed the debate on the District status of Maracha and the 
Presidents visit keenly The comments particularly by Vasco Oguzua and Patrick 
Aviku were to the point.

For those who dont know me, I work in the District Local Government of Arua 
where I have served for the last 15 years. The experiences of division, 
sectarianism and hatred  through which we are going now as a result of what I 
call districtmania is very disheartening and quite often frightening to me. It 
is in stark contrast with my experiencesof the years before we went into the 
frenzy of creating the Districts. Unity is breaking down like a pack of cards. 
Hatred has taken up the place of love and cooperation among, hitherto friends, 
schoolmates and classmates- all in the name of protecting interests of one's 
District/'people'. 


The situation is painful to some of us who chersihed the ideals of unity and 
friendship. The situation makes me feel ashaamed of what is goin on. Besides, 
what Patrick has stated ( two friends been separated), some of the worst 
scenarios have been played out in our local environment. Today, even among us 

Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania

2010-08-06 Thread Patrick Ezaga
My people,

 Let me ask;

1. Is it true that in the majority of cases the key reason for asking for a
district is to bring services closer to the people?
2. Doesn't no. 1 above therefore show that the lacking services and the
locations where they lack are actually known?
3. If it is possible to marshal the necessary budgets to finance new
districts in record time, would it not be wiser to first use these budgets
to build/provide the lacking services in the lacking areas then maybe the
district can follow?

One only needs to visit some of these new districts in order to realise the
gaps. I know of one where to this day, civil servants practically work for
2 or three days a week!!! Tuesday - Thursday morning. The rest of the time
they retreat to their parent districts where they have investments and
homes. It will take a while for some pf these places to actually get the
services they need.

Ez

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Aluma Adam aluma...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Dear All,

 It is not true at all in my considered view that the creation of a district
 does bring division among the local people, how???! This line of argument is
 devoid of technical and administrative sense and science, otherwise, the
 Parliament of Uganda would not approve such Districts.

 The original creation of Moyo, Nebbi and Arua in WestNile never caused
 division that most of us who see the archives have been able to reveal. It
 is bad politics, weak personalities and cheap leadership that are the
 real problem here and must be dealt with head on with the sobriety it
 deserves.

 A political 'mix' of issues but narrow objectivity would at best yield a
 cousin to anarchy..

 Keep the thread running.

 Adam Aluma




 --- On *Thu, 8/5/10, banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk* wrote:


 From: banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania

 To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
 Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:46 PM


  My brother Drani,

 There was no other way to express this than you have done. For those who
 are not in Arua, they have not seen what you have seen. Thanks for having
 had the heart to let them know as an insider. Who does not know that you are
 one of the seasoned MCs in the greater Arua district with a strong command
 of the both the english language and the lugbara dialect? For those who
 believed that creation of districts at almost every sub county was a way of
 bringing services closure to the people, be assured that it is not the case.
 It is a hectic plan to disenfranchise the once united and strong people.
 What it simply means is that be occuppied with your local hatred so that you
 don't have the strength to fight any external war. Let us be careful and
 resist this cancer before it infiltrates other upcoming ventures like the
 public university. How we do that, I don't know.

 God save us,

 Ismail



  --
 *From:* Andua Drani anduadr...@yahoo.co.uk
 *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
 *Sent:* Thu, 5 August, 2010 18:11:27
 *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania

Dear all,

 I have followed the debate on the District status of Maracha and the
 Presidents visit keenly The comments particularly by Vasco Oguzua and
 Patrick Aviku were to the point.

 For those who dont know me, I work in the District Local Government of Arua
 where I have served for the last 15 years. The experiences of division,
 sectarianism and hatred  through which we are going now as a result of what
 I call *districtmania is *very disheartening and quite often frightening
 to me. It is in stark contrast with my experiencesof the years before we
 went into the frenzy of creating the Districts. Unity is breaking down like
 a pack of cards. Hatred has taken up the place of love and cooperation
 among, hitherto friends, schoolmates and classmates- all in the name of
 protecting interests of one's District/'people'.

 The situation is painful to some of us who chersihed the ideals of unity
 and friendship. The situation makes me feel ashaamed of what is goin on.
 Besides, what Patrick has stated ( two friends been separated), some of the
 worst scenarios have been played out in our local environment. Today, even
 among us who are the staff serving in these Districts, friendships have
 broken over creation of Districts. I can comfirm that I have personally lost
 some of my very good friends with whom I have worked closely over this
 matter of District creation who have are so excited over this issue. I am
 sure Ezaga was innocently lured into being an MC for the occasion. There are
 many things, I am sure if he knew them, he would have thought twice before
 accepting the 'offer of appoinment of MC'.However, as way of bringing us
 together, he was right to be there

 The situation is only fair for many of you members of the westnilenet who
 are not working in these Districts.

 Many cricicisms were levelled 

[WestNileNet] GUBAZI MICHAEL

2010-08-06 Thread Sam Ejibua
On behalf of Gubazi Michael (Younger brother to Mr. Aloro Copperfield) and 
family members, I would like to invite all friends and friends of friends for 
the 1st meeting towards his traditional marriage on Sunday 8th August 2010 at 
Naalya (Hill view - Jose's place) starting at 5pm. 

RSVP
0772515648



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Re: [WestNileNet] GUBAZI MICHAEL

2010-08-06 Thread Godfrey Agupio
Dear Sam, I am still away, but might join you incase I arrive in time and in
good shape.

Regards

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Sam Ejibua eji...@yahoo.com wrote:

   On behalf of Gubazi Michael (Younger brother to Mr. Aloro Copperfield)
 and family members, I would like to invite all friends and friends of
 friends for the 1st meeting towards his traditional marriage on Sunday 8th
 August 2010 at Naalya (Hill view - Jose's place) starting at 5pm.

 RSVP
 0772515648


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Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania

2010-08-06 Thread christine munduru
Dear all,
I read these emails with alot of disappointment. However, I would like to thank 
Andua for the truth that he has spoken, for those who always dont like truth, 
it 
will be a pain. I think all of us should understand that we have a REAL big 
problem in westnile right now and these are centered around greed and 
corruption. Otherwise, it would have been easy to understand the political 
gimmick played by giving the so-called Maracha -Terego district that opened 
this 
wound. Many people felt this would be a chance for them to eat. Leaders dont 
talk about serving people, they talk about eating. That so and so have 
eaten. The Maracha-Terego district political gimmick found this going on 
already in Arua and it took advantage. Main reason why when Terego was told to 
come back to Arua district, it almost became a war but I am sure it still will.
Many people still dont understand why the RDC does things the way he does them 
in Arua and nobody bothers and he is government representative in the district. 
Does it mean what we see in him is what the government is?

For those who have powers to change this situation, they better help. For my 
brothers and sisters coming from Terego and Maracha, I should think that there 
is no need to continue fighting, hating and talking all sorts of things against 
each other. The district has been given to Maracha and to me it is very fine. 
If 
a district is a rocket science that will change Maracha, we wait to see. When a 
district was given to Yumbe and Koboko, the same problem came up but late Ayume 
in his wisdom decided the district be given to Yumbe and Koboko would get a 
chance another time and this solved the problem. Unfortunately our two brothers 
didnt think of this example. I worked in Yumbe but didnt see the rocket science 
brought by giving Yumbe district status. As Andua said, the leaders are still 
running around to look for schools in Kampala for their children and getting 
health services elsewhere. 

For your information, numbers of districts increased but funding for health 
services didnt increase and I am sure for other services too. So how we expect 
services to improve in the new districts is unknown to me. How the poor people 
will therefore benefit from these ditricts is also unclear to me. Yes a few 
people will get jobs but this may end up getting them good schools for their 
children, better cars and good houses instead of serving the communities.

The politics now is about where to eat from, it is no longer about serving 
people. People have to sale their integrity, kill their brothers and sisters so 
long us it lands them on money. So we shall see this trend worsening in this 
biting poverty and this is a deliberate plan. Unless we understand where all 
these plans are coming from, we shall never help this situation.

Christine



From: Sam Ejibua eji...@yahoo.com
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Sent: Fri, August 6, 2010 11:11:31 AM
Subject: [WestNileNet] Districtimania


Dear All,

As we comment on Mr. Andua's well espoused narration, I would like to look at 
otherwise obvious issues that may have been a precusor to some of these 
occurences.


1. Isnt it true that the will of the people of West Nile has been 
infiltrated 
to the point that seeds of division, hatred, envy, jelousy, greed and 
individualism has been sowed among us that we now turn our guns against each 
other?
2. Isnt it also true that as the government propaganda machine is 
carrying out 
its schemes, we have allowed our leaders and some of our very self to continue 
using the meagre resources we have to promote the agenda that devides us?
3. Who are we waiting for to put an end to this? Our pride, identity 
and 
destiny as a people is being viewed with mockery and therefore no one will come 
and change the status quo unless we get back and re-awaken our very self.No 
one 
saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the 
path


Over to you...

Ejibua Sam 

--- On Thu, 8/5/10, Andua Drani anduadr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


From: Andua Drani anduadr...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Districtimania
To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net
Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 8:11 AM


 Dear all,

I have followed the debate on the District status of Maracha and the 
Presidents visit keenly The comments particularly by Vasco Oguzua and Patrick 
Aviku were to the point.

For those who dont know me, I work in the District Local Government of Arua 
where I have served for the last 15 years. The experiences of division, 
sectarianism and hatred  through which we are going now as a result of what I 
call districtmania is very disheartening and quite often frightening to me. It 
is in stark contrast with my experiencesof the years before we went into the 
frenzy of creating the Districts. Unity is breaking down like a pack of cards.