Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, will surgent wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Jonny Barnes wrote: Or maybe a license attribute instead, that would include copyrighted work and stuff licensed under some CC or alternative. On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Aryeh Gregor wrote: This is one of the things microdata/RDFa are meant to do. On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/microdata.html#examples-4 On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, will surgent wrote: Hmm I didn't know about that. Thanks! On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Dawid Czyzewski wrote: And why img only? this would also be good for audio and video. On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, will surgent wrote: That sounds like good idea (about the audio and video elements being included as-well). I just thought of it because Google does not allow one to specify the copyright or license in an image search as far as I know. having a license attribute would make it intuitive for developers to add the license the same way title and alt attributes are specified. On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, timeless wrote: external metadata on copyright is a disaster. it gets lost immediately. GIF and friends have supported embedding (c) into images for decades. As google is fully capable of caching images (and obviously does so), I question how adding a tag to html will solve a problem which is already solved by the native image formats themselves. For lack of a more useful reference about comment fields, i'll just point to one application which is aware of them (although at the time of the posting it only supported them for certain image types): http://www.group42.com/ts-wi04.htm Based on the above comments, I haven't changed anything -- the work vocabulary pretty much already addresses this use case in HTML, and addressing it in other formats is a problem for another working group. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A/, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:53 AM, will surgent will...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. external metadata on copyright is a disaster. it gets lost immediately. GIF and friends have supported embedding (c) into images for decades. As google is fully capable of caching images (and obviously does so), I question how adding a tag to html will solve a problem which is already solved by the native image formats themselves. For lack of a more useful reference about comment fields, i'll just point to one application which is aware of them (although at the time of the posting it only supported them for certain image types): http://www.group42.com/ts-wi04.htm
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
And it is worth saying that a copyright notice is not a license. Copyright Martin Luther 1517 doesn't tell you anything at all about what permissions Martin is granting you. And rights permissions languages are much more complex... On Jan 12, 2010, at 6:06 , timeless wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:53 AM, will surgent will...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. external metadata on copyright is a disaster. it gets lost immediately. GIF and friends have supported embedding (c) into images for decades. As google is fully capable of caching images (and obviously does so), I question how adding a tag to html will solve a problem which is already solved by the native image formats themselves. For lack of a more useful reference about comment fields, i'll just point to one application which is aware of them (although at the time of the posting it only supported them for certain image types): http://www.group42.com/ts-wi04.htm David Singer Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
That sounds like good idea (about the audio and video elements being included as-well). I just thought of it because Google does not allow one to specify the copyright or license in an image search as far as I know. having a license attribute would make it intuitive for developers to add the license the same way title and alt attributes are specified. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Dawid Czyzewski magnet...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 04:10, Jonny Barnes jonnybarnes at gmail.com http://lists.whatwg.org/listinfo.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org wrote: * 2010/1/10 will surgent willeom at gmail.com http://lists.whatwg.org/listinfo.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org: ** It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. ** This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images ** that can not be used for certain purposes. ** ** ** Or maybe a license attribute instead, that would include copyrighted ** work and stuff licensed under some CC or alternative. ** * That's also copyright. Well, not exactly, in such attribute you could also enter copyleft licensees (such as GPL), as also public domain, so *license sounds more proper for this.* And why img only? this would also be good for audio and video.
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
will surgent will...@gmail.com schrieb am Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:40:12 -0500: That sounds like good idea (about the audio and video elements being included as-well). I just thought of it because Google does not allow one to specify the copyright or license in an image search as far as I know. having a license attribute would make it intuitive for developers to add the license the same way title and alt attributes are specified. Okay, so there is HTML5 Microdata and RDFa that does this (and more). If you didn't know, you can specify a license for content with @rel=license also. What else exactly do you need ? Cheers -- Nils Dagsson Moskopp // erlehmann http://dieweltistgarnichtso.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 04:10, Jonny Barnes jonnybarnes at gmail.com http://lists.whatwg.org/listinfo.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org wrote: * 2010/1/10 will surgent willeom at gmail.com http://lists.whatwg.org/listinfo.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org: ** It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. ** This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images ** that can not be used for certain purposes. ** ** ** Or maybe a license attribute instead, that would include copyrighted ** work and stuff licensed under some CC or alternative. ** * That's also copyright. Well, not exactly, in such attribute you could also enter copyleft licensees (such as GPL), as also public domain, so *license sounds more proper for this.* And why img only? this would also be good for audio and video.
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 05:41:52 +0100, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:53 PM, will surgent will...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. This is one of the things microdata/RDFa are meant to do. http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/microdata.html#examples-4 -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
Hmm I didn't know about that. Thanks! On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.comwrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 05:41:52 +0100, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.comsimetrical%2b...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:53 PM, will surgent will...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. This is one of the things microdata/RDFa are meant to do. http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/microdata.html#examples-4 -- Philip Jägenstedt Core Developer Opera Software
[whatwg] img copyright attribute
It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes.
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
2010/1/10 will surgent will...@gmail.com: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. Or maybe a license attribute instead, that would include copyrighted work and stuff licensed under some CC or alternative.
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 04:10, Jonny Barnes jonnybar...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/10 will surgent will...@gmail.com: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. Or maybe a license attribute instead, that would include copyrighted work and stuff licensed under some CC or alternative. That's also copyright. -- Remco
Re: [whatwg] img copyright attribute
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:53 PM, will surgent will...@gmail.com wrote: It would be nice if there was a copyright attribute for the HTML 5 img tag. This would make it easy for users and search engines to filter out images that can not be used for certain purposes. This is one of the things microdata/RDFa are meant to do.
