Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-06-09 Thread Ian Hickson 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
>
> We can record mouse and keyboard activity in xml. There are many events 
> which are resolution independent.
>
> for example mouse clicks, button press events . Now suppose you are 
> dealing with some animation or game or just a slideshow. what you do ? 
> you type some buttons from mouse or keyboard. Now if you can record the 
> timeline of these events then we can play back at anytime.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote:
>
> IMO, you should record when users advance slides (rather than when users 
> press spacebar, activate their cursor on a specified region, flick their 
> accelometer wand, or wipe their touch touchpad in a given direction).

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> 
> Do you mean that a web page should actually be able to actually control 
> the user's mouse and keyboard?  That's clearly not acceptable for 
> security.  What if the web page types:
> 
> http://www.evil.com/download-virus
> 
> to go to a URL and skip any warnings about, e.g., installing untrusted 
> plugins?  Even if you limit it to synthesizing clicks that only take 
> effect within the invoking webpage, you'd probably still run into 
> security issues with cross-site content (clickjacking on steroids).
> 
> What exactly do you mean by an "automated slideshow"?  How would this 
> feature help with that?

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
>
> automated slideshow = slideshow where user need not to do next/forward 
> etc, every slide will be having timings and Audio will be in sync with 
> slides. I know this can be done using custom xml file and Javascript.  
> (https://docs.google.com/View?id=dhtsnnph_59gt2jjjdj&pli=1 )

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Ben Rimmington wrote:
> 
> See the "Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language" [1] [2].
> 
> [1] 
> [2] 

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> Have you looked at popcorn.js? http://popcornjs.org/

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
> 
> Thanks for link..

I haven't added anything to the spec as a result of this particular 
discussion, as I cannot really see what use case is being discussed or 
whether there is a concrete proposal here. Please don't hesitate to post 
further suggestions. In general I would encourage everyone to study this 
particular part of the FAQ:

   
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Is_there_a_process_for_adding_new_features_to_a_specification.3F

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Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-03-02 Thread Narendra Sisodiya 
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
 wrote:
> Have you looked at popcorn.js? http://popcornjs.org/

Thanks for link..

Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-03-02 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer 
Have you looked at popcorn.js? http://popcornjs.org/

Silvia.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Ben Rimmington  wrote:
> On 2 Mar 2011, at 05:56, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
>>
>>> What exactly do you mean by an "automated slideshow"?  How would this
>>> feature help with that?
>>>
>>
>> automated slideshow = slideshow where user need not to do next/forward etc,
>> every slide will be having timings and Audio will be in sync with slides.
>> I know this can be done using custom xml file and Javascript.  (
>> https://docs.google.com/View?id=dhtsnnph_59gt2jjjdj&pli=1 )
>
> See the "Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language" [1] [2].
>
> [1] 
>
> [2] 
>
>

Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-03-02 Thread Ben Rimmington 
On 2 Mar 2011, at 05:56, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
> 
>> What exactly do you mean by an "automated slideshow"?  How would this
>> feature help with that?
>> 
> 
> automated slideshow = slideshow where user need not to do next/forward etc,
> every slide will be having timings and Audio will be in sync with slides.
> I know this can be done using custom xml file and Javascript.  (
> https://docs.google.com/View?id=dhtsnnph_59gt2jjjdj&pli=1 )

See the "Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language" [1] [2].

[1] 

[2]

Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-03-01 Thread Narendra Sisodiya 
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:

>
> What exactly do you mean by an "automated slideshow"?  How would this
> feature help with that?
>

automated slideshow = slideshow where user need not to do next/forward etc,
every slide will be having timings and Audio will be in sync with slides.
I know this can be done using custom xml file and Javascript.  (
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dhtsnnph_59gt2jjjdj&pli=1 )


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Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-03-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor 
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Narendra Sisodiya
 wrote:
> We can record mouse and keyboard activity in xml. There are many events
> which are resolution independent.
> for example mouse clicks, button press events . Now suppose you are dealing
> with some animation or game or just a slideshow. what you do ? you type some
> buttons from mouse or keyboard. Now if you can record the timeline of these
> events then we can play back at anytime.
> The idea is very interesting for having automated slideshows ..

Do you mean that a web page should actually be able to actually
control the user's mouse and keyboard?  That's clearly not acceptable
for security.  What if the web page types:

http://www.evil.com/download-virus

to go to a URL and skip any warnings about, e.g., installing untrusted
plugins?  Even if you limit it to synthesizing clicks that only take
effect within the invoking webpage, you'd probably still run into
security issues with cross-site content (clickjacking on steroids).

What exactly do you mean by an "automated slideshow"?  How would this
feature help with that?

Re: [whatwg] Idea for having InputXML Or ClickXML for HTML5+

2011-03-01 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius 
On 3/1/11, Narendra Sisodiya  wrote:
> We can record mouse and keyboard activity in xml. There are many events
> which are resolution independent.
> for example mouse clicks, button press events . Now suppose you are dealing
> with some animation or game or just a slideshow. what you do ? you type some
> buttons from mouse or keyboard. Now if you can record the timeline of these
> events then we can play back at anytime.
IMO, you should record when users advance slides (rather than when
users press spacebar, activate their cursor on a specified region,
flick their accelometer wand, or wipe their touch touchpad in a given
direction).