Re: Almost 100,000 downloads for Wicket!

2006-12-04 Thread Paolo Di Tommaso

congratulations!

On 12/2/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


And that is only counting the sourceforge downloads.


http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=119783ugn=wickettype=prdownloadmode=alltimepackage_id=0

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Re: ListView in a form sucks

2006-12-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Eelco Hillenius:

 Well, no. We'd have to start a  new vote. Which I'm not gonna do
 this  time,  as my  previous  two  tries  got a  very  luke-warm
 response :)

No Wicket  developer seems to  be willing to undertake  this.  So,
shall I start the vote?
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Unit tests, license headers

2006-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst

The unittests discovered that we don't have the correct license header
for the newest addition to our core project in wicket-1.x branch:
WildcardMatcherHelper.java

2 points:
1. I thought we had our default new file template in place, why doesn't it work?
2. Unit tests are to be run. If a test fails, at least check if it is
caused by your change

wicket-1.x/wicket/src/main/java/wicket/application/WildcardMatcherHelper.java

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Re: ListView in a form sucks

2006-12-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius

Sure, go for it.

Eelco


On 12/4/06, Jean-Baptiste Quenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* Eelco Hillenius:

 Well, no. We'd have to start a  new vote. Which I'm not gonna do
 this  time,  as my  previous  two  tries  got a  very  luke-warm
 response :)

No Wicket  developer seems to  be willing to undertake  this.  So,
shall I start the vote?
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[VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
See  thread  [1]« ListView  in  a form  sucks »  for  background
information on this.

As stated  by Eelco, the  idea is: « to move  at least a  bunch of
[2]repeaters to the core project  and give them more visibility by
replacing a  couple of the  list view  based examples we  have now
with  repeaters. »

Some citations:

« It is  very  easy  to miss  those  great
  extensions, just because they are  not in core. »

« ListView is fragile »

« Regardless of the problems people have with list views -
  most think the repeaters work better anyway. »


So please cast your votes:

[ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
in the extensions

[ ] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
core and deprecate ListView
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[1] http://www.nabble.com/ListView-in-a-%3Cform%3E-sucks-tf2717109.html#a7575558
[2] 
http://wicketframework.org/wicket-extensions/apidocs/wicket/extensions/markup/html/repeater/RepeatingView.html


Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
Here's my non-binding +1:

 [ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
 in the extensions
 
 [X] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
 core and deprecate ListView
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Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius

So please cast your votes:


[ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
in the extensions

[ x ] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
core and deprecate ListView

Eelco (binding)

Though we don't have to actually deprecate ListView. I think just a
couple of @see tags and some explanation that you might prefer a
repeater when working with database would be enough imo.


Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Matej Knopp


Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:

See  thread  [1]« ListView  in  a form  sucks »  for  background
information on this.

As stated  by Eelco, the  idea is: « to move  at least a  bunch of
[2]repeaters to the core project  and give them more visibility by
replacing a  couple of the  list view  based examples we  have now
with  repeaters. »

Some citations:

« It is  very  easy  to miss  those  great
  extensions, just because they are  not in core. »

« ListView is fragile »

« Regardless of the problems people have with list views -
  most think the repeaters work better anyway. »


So please cast your votes:

[ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
   in the extensions


 [X] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
 core and deprecate ListView

-Matej (binding)


Re: Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst

I don't like to deprecate listview. It has enough good usecases to
keep it and promote its use. And furthermore, I would like to know
*which* repeaters move to core...

Therefore: -1 for the proposal (either outcome)

Martijn

On 12/4/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So please cast your votes:

 [ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
 in the extensions

 [ x ] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
 core and deprecate ListView

Eelco (binding)

Though we don't have to actually deprecate ListView. I think just a
couple of @see tags and some explanation that you might prefer a
repeater when working with database would be enough imo.




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Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Matej Knopp
Well, just to specify my vote closely, I'm for adding DataView and all 
it's superclasses (RefreshingView, ...) in the core.


And I'm against making ListView deprecated.

-Matej

Matej Knopp wrote:


Jean-Baptiste Quenot wrote:

See  thread  [1]« ListView  in  a form  sucks »  for  background
information on this.

As stated  by Eelco, the  idea is: « to move  at least a  bunch of
[2]repeaters to the core project  and give them more visibility by
replacing a  couple of the  list view  based examples we  have now
with  repeaters. »

Some citations:

« It is  very  easy  to miss  those  great
  extensions, just because they are  not in core. »

« ListView is fragile »

« Regardless of the problems people have with list views -
  most think the repeaters work better anyway. »


So please cast your votes:

[ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
   in the extensions


 [X] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
 core and deprecate ListView

-Matej (binding)





Re: Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius

I would like to know
*which* repeaters move to core...


That could be another proposal for which we need some to time to
settle which ones. The point of this vote is to get clear whether we
want to keep the things as they are, or that we want to put some more
weight on the repeaters instead of listview.

Eelco


Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Igor Vaynberg



[ ] Leave ListView in core unchanged and let the repeaters forever
in the extensions

[X] Move at least a bunch of repeaters from wicket-extensions into
core (and deprecate ListView) == skip that



-igor


Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
 I don't like to deprecate listview. It has enough good usecases to
 keep it and promote its use. And furthermore, I would like to know
 *which* repeaters move to core...

 Therefore: -1 for the proposal (either outcome)

Is this a formal veto for the whole thing, or would you accept it if we
move some repeaters to core and don't deprecate ListView?

Sylvain

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Re: Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Igor Vaynberg

see the new thread. it is pretty specific.

-igor

On 12/4/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 12/4/06, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martijn Dashorst wrote:
  I don't like to deprecate listview. It has enough good usecases to
  keep it and promote its use. And furthermore, I would like to know
  *which* repeaters move to core...
 
  Therefore: -1 for the proposal (either outcome)

 Is this a formal veto for the whole thing, or would you accept it if we
 move some repeaters to core and don't deprecate ListView?

As the proposal currently stands it is a veto. If the proposal is
amended/changed, I will change my vote. The current proposal just
doesn't leave much room for the middle way.
In this particular case, I found the premise bad: ListView does not
suck, and should remain in core.

I really don't like votes where halfway through the voting subjects
change. This is a horrible precedent, and clouds the meaning of
earlier votes. On the other hand, starting 5 vote threads to get one
thing fixed is also not helpful and just as bad.

Martijn

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Re: [VOTE] [EDITED] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Eelco Hillenius

+1

Eelco


On 12/4/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

+1

-igor


On 12/4/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 move DataView and all super+support classes into core alongside ListView

 amend ListView's javadoc to refer users to the newly added repeaters that
 might better fit the usecase

 -igor






Re: Re: Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst

On 12/4/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

see the new thread. it is pretty specific.


Done, however, I would like it better if the original poster would
have done so. It is his proposal.

Martijn


Re: Re: Re: Re: [VOTE] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst

On 12/4/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

then you shouldve stated so! :)


He's backk! :D

Martijn



-igor


On 12/4/06, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/4/06, Igor Vaynberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  see the new thread. it is pretty specific.

 Done, however, I would like it better if the original poster would
 have done so. It is his proposal.

 Martijn






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Re: [VOTE] [EDITED] Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core

2006-12-04 Thread Juergen Donnerstag

+1

Juergen



Igor Vaynberg wrote:
 move DataView and all super+support classes into core alongside ListView

 amend ListView's javadoc to refer users to the newly added repeaters that
 might better fit the usecase

 -igor