Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
Gili,SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards,On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net just got SVN support!https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 GiliGili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net? Gili--http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/--- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting languagethat extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcastand join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642___ Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED]Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
I dont like the color scheme!-IgorOn 3/10/06, Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like their navigation though.EelcoOn 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net ? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting languagethat extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___Wicket-user mailing listWicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
What do you mean by navigation? Gili Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
wow, no mistaking your stance. content, content, content is what I'm after. On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You totally control what goes in the main body of the website. Put in whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! Ifyou absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own websiteand link it to java.net resources. Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than prettycolors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself untilthey've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogetheror make it configurable. Requests go here: https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93GiliRiyad Kalla wrote: If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcastand join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642___Wicket-user mailing list
Re: [Wicket-user] Re: What about java.net?
The thing is, that such a change is not trivial for us. We had a very good reason to move away from codehaus, as they were very unresponsive to our requests. And that was not too long after the start of the project too. However, moving to some other host now will be a major undertaking for the team, so we better make sure it is worth it. I'd say let's wait for a bit and see whether this SVN thing will help our users out. Furthermore, there have been talks with people from Apache, which might in the future be one of the options open to us. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You totally control what goes in the main body of the website. Put in whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! If you absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own website and link it to java.net resources. Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than pretty colors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself until they've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogether or make it configurable. Requests go here: https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93 Gili Riyad Kalla wrote: If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user
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One final question, did SourceForge mention whether moving to SVN will remove the sync lag between the dev and anonymous servers? There is still a couple hours worth of lag between their CVS servers. Gili Gili wrote: That's perfectly fine with me. If SVN anonymous access is reliable then I'm more than happy to stay with SourceForge. Gili Eelco Hillenius wrote: The thing is, that such a change is not trivial for us. We had a very good reason to move away from codehaus, as they were very unresponsive to our requests. And that was not too long after the start of the project too. However, moving to some other host now will be a major undertaking for the team, so we better make sure it is worth it. I'd say let's wait for a bit and see whether this SVN thing will help our users out. Furthermore, there have been talks with people from Apache, which might in the future be one of the options open to us. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You totally control what goes in the main body of the website. Put in whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! If you absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own website and link it to java.net resources. Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than pretty colors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself until they've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogether or make it configurable. Requests go here: https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93 Gili Riyad Kalla wrote: If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!
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this has already been discussed on the list! but for the sake of ending this discussion for now, svn uses the same server for anon and authenticated access. so that means no lag. because its the same machine.-Igor On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One final question, did SourceForge mention whether moving to SVN willremove the sync lag between the dev and anonymous servers? There isstill a couple hours worth of lag between their CVS servers. GiliGili wrote: That's perfectly fine with me. If SVN anonymous access is reliable then I'm more than happy to stay with SourceForge. Gili Eelco Hillenius wrote: The thing is, that such a change is not trivial for us. We had a very good reason to move away from codehaus, as they were very unresponsive to our requests. And that was not too long after the start of the project too. However, moving to some other host now will be a major undertaking for the team, so we better make sure it is worth it. I'd say let's wait for a bit and see whether this SVN thing will help our users out. Furthermore, there have been talks with people from Apache, which might in the future be one of the options open to us. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You totally control what goes in the main body of the website. Put in whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! If you absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own website and link it to java.net resources. Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than pretty colors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself until they've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogether or make it configurable. Requests go here: https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93 Gili Riyad Kalla wrote: If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642
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That's perfectly fine with me. If SVN anonymous access is reliable then I'm more than happy to stay with SourceForge. Gili Eelco Hillenius wrote: The thing is, that such a change is not trivial for us. We had a very good reason to move away from codehaus, as they were very unresponsive to our requests. And that was not too long after the start of the project too. However, moving to some other host now will be a major undertaking for the team, so we better make sure it is worth it. I'd say let's wait for a bit and see whether this SVN thing will help our users out. Furthermore, there have been talks with people from Apache, which might in the future be one of the options open to us. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You totally control what goes in the main body of the website. Put in whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! If you absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own website and link it to java.net resources. Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than pretty colors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself until they've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogether or make it configurable. Requests go here: https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93 Gili Riyad Kalla wrote: If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is
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You totally control what goes in the main body of the website. Put in whatever navigation and color-scheme *you* happen to like. Go wild! If you absolutely cannot stand having a sidebar, create your own website and link it to java.net resources. Call me crazy, but I am more concerned with reliability than pretty colors. I've always disliked SourceForge's ugly pages myself until they've recently revamped them. You could always write a request to the java.net admins asking for the ability to banish the sidebar altogether or make it configurable. Requests go here: https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ForumMessageList?forumID=93 Gili Riyad Kalla wrote: If by the crappy left hand menus and not being able to tell what belongs to the site, what belongs to the project and overall having a hard time finding files that belong to the project, screenshots, docs, etc... then yes, me too. Eelco Hillenius wrote: I don't like their navigation though. Eelco On 3/10/06, Gili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I would agree... but this has been going on for over a year now (them making promises that CVS will get fixed anytime now). I don't doubt that SVN support will become standard on SF.net sometime soon. I *do* doubt that their reliability will change. Who says SVN will work any better than CVS? The flakiness was never in the CVS software, it was in the SF hardware and/or configuration. java.net has a better track record and they do seem to meet all the requirements (don't they?). Isn't it worth looking into it? Gili Guillermo Castro wrote: Gili, SouceForge has SVN support too. I think that SF is making lots of progress in getting their tools together. The recent redesign of the pages, the added svn support, etc. means that SF is still fighting to be *the* open source software projects repository. Regards, On 3/10/06, *Gili* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, java.net http://java.net just got SVN support! https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 https://java-net.dev.java.net/servlets/ProjectForumMessageView?messageID=11831forumID=93 Gili Gili wrote: Hi, I just realized java.net http://java.net has a very fast CVS server, mailing lists, issue tracker, etc... I think it has everything we need (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, I think we could even plug in JIRA to use as the issue tracker if we wanted. Would it be possible to move off SF's crusty CVS server and onto java.net http://java.net? Gili -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- Guillermo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monterrey NL, Mexico http://www.javageek.org/ -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user -- http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into
