[Wien] WIENNCM + spin-orbit

2012-03-21 Thread Lyudmila Dobysheva
Dear WIEN developers and users,

How does this combination - noncollinear magnetism and spin-orbit 
interaction - is realized in WIENNCM?
I mean the direction of magnetization in the file inso.
What was it in the paper Phys Rev B 69, 140408?R? (2004?)
Magnetic structure and electric-field gradients of uranium dioxide: An 
ab initio study
R. Laskowski, G. K. H. Madsen, P. Blaha, and K. Schwarz
There are several atoms with different directions of the magnetic 
moments, and zero total magnetization.

How should the inso file be constructed for the case of spin spiral?

Best regards,
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[Wien] WIENNCM + spin-orbit

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Blaha
In the NCM-version there is NO case.inso.
lapw1 and lapwso are combined and it is possible to define directions for 
each atom separately.

When you do spin-spirals, you cannot include spin-orbit interactions, because 
this would break
the generalized Bloch-condition.

So either: NCM including SO in a well defined unit cell, or spin-spirals 
(with arbitrary q) but no SO.

Am 21.03.2012 09:29, schrieb Lyudmila Dobysheva:
 Dear WIEN developers and users,
 How does this combination - noncollinear magnetism and spin-orbit interaction 
 - is realized in WIENNCM?I mean the direction of magnetization in the file 
 inso.What was it in the
 paper Phys Rev B 69, 140408?R? (2004?)Magnetic structure and electric-field 
 gradients of uranium dioxide: An ab initio studyR. Laskowski, G. K. H. 
 Madsen, P. Blaha, and K.
 SchwarzThere are several atoms with different directions of the magnetic 
 moments, and zero total magnetization.
 How should the inso file be constructed for the case of spin spiral?
 Best regards, Lyudmila 
 Dobysheva--Phys.-Techn.
  Institute of Ural Br. of Russian Ac. of Sci.426001 Izhevsk,
 ul.Kirova 
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[Wien] WIENNCM + spin-orbit

2012-03-21 Thread Robert Laskowski
Hi,
the direction specified in inso is ignored, the z axis of the spin frame is 
set parallel to the direction specified in inncm.

regards

Robert

 
On Wednesday 21 March 2012 09:29:39 Lyudmila Dobysheva wrote:
 Dear WIEN developers and users,
 
 How does this combination - noncollinear magnetism and spin-orbit
 interaction - is realized in WIENNCM?
 I mean the direction of magnetization in the file inso.
 What was it in the paper Phys Rev B 69, 140408?R? (2004?)
 Magnetic structure and electric-field gradients of uranium dioxide: An
 ab initio study
 R. Laskowski, G. K. H. Madsen, P. Blaha, and K. Schwarz
 There are several atoms with different directions of the magnetic
 moments, and zero total magnetization.
 
 How should the inso file be constructed for the case of spin spiral?
 
 Best regards,
Lyudmila Dobysheva
 --
 Phys.-Techn. Institute of Ural Br. of Russian Ac. of Sci.
 426001 Izhevsk, ul.Kirova 132
 RUSSIA
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[Wien] WIENNCM + spin-orbit

2012-03-21 Thread Lyudmila Dobysheva
21.03.2012 13:26, Peter Blaha wrote:
 In the NCM-version there is NO case.inso.
 lapw1 and lapwso are combined and it is possible to define directions
 for each atom separately.
 When you do spin-spirals, you cannot include spin-orbit interactions,
 because this would break the generalized Bloch-condition.

Thank you, Peter and Robert! I see now: the program knows directions of 
atomic moments, so no necessity for us to indicate it.

Best regards,
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[Wien] query about OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D case)

2012-03-21 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear wien2k users,

   We are working on an orthorhombic cell and want to find out the lattice
parameters and unit cell volume after extraction of some ions from that
unit cell. There is an option : *OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which
we can vary a, b and c (3D case)*

Now my query are the followings:

(1) whether a, b, and c are varied by keeping the volume constant?

(2) if volume is indeed kept constant then is there any method in which I
can very both volume and a,b,c?...as that is indeed happen experimentally
if we extract some ions from a unit cell

I do not want to use the case : vary volume with constant a:b:c ratio...as
even a:b:c ratio will vary and depends from which position we are
extracting the ions!!

any response in this regard will be very useful for us.

with regards,

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Senior Research Fellow
Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
IIT Kharagpur
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[Wien] query about OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D case)

2012-03-21 Thread Laurence Marks
If you look at what optimize does, it just varies the lattice
parameters in some reasonable fashion then runs a csh (tcsh) script
for each different one. There are then a couple of small utility
programs for doing simple plots and/or finding the minimum energy. It
is only designed to handle relatively simple cases, not every possible
one.

I suspect that for your case it will be more efficient if you edit by
hand the lattice parameters and create a series of files
(case_1.struct , case_2.struct etc). You can then use some other
program (e.g. Excel) to analyze your results. With a little work you
can edit the script that optimize produces (optimize.job) and then run
it -- not rocket science.

2012/3/21 shamik chakrabarti shamikphy at gmail.com:
 Dear wien2k users,

 ? ?We are working on an orthorhombic cell and want to find out the lattice
 parameters and unit cell volume after extraction of some ions from that unit
 cell. There is an option : OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can
 vary a, b and c (3D case)

 Now my query are the followings:

 (1) whether a, b, and c are varied by keeping the volume constant?

 (2) if volume is indeed kept constant then is there any method in which I
 can very both volume and a,b,c?...as that is indeed happen experimentally if
 we extract some ions from a unit cell

 I do not want to use the case : vary volume with constant a:b:c ratio...as
 even a:b:c ratio will vary and depends from which position we are extracting
 the ions!!

 any response in this regard will be very useful for us.

 with regards,

 --
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 Senior Research Fellow
 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
 Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
 IIT Kharagpur
 Kharagpur 721302
 INDIA

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[Wien] query about OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D case)

2012-03-21 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear Laurence Marks Sir,

Thank you very much for your response. I have understood what you want
to say but still pardon me for asking that question again for absolute
assurance:

Sir, *is that if we use option 6 then only a, b, c are varied while the
volume is kept constant?*

looking for your reply Sir.

with regards,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Laurence Marks L-marks at 
northwestern.eduwrote:

 If you look at what optimize does, it just varies the lattice
 parameters in some reasonable fashion then runs a csh (tcsh) script
 for each different one. There are then a couple of small utility
 programs for doing simple plots and/or finding the minimum energy. It
 is only designed to handle relatively simple cases, not every possible
 one.

 I suspect that for your case it will be more efficient if you edit by
 hand the lattice parameters and create a series of files
 (case_1.struct , case_2.struct etc). You can then use some other
 program (e.g. Excel) to analyze your results. With a little work you
 can edit the script that optimize produces (optimize.job) and then run
 it -- not rocket science.

 2012/3/21 shamik chakrabarti shamikphy at gmail.com:
  Dear wien2k users,
 
 We are working on an orthorhombic cell and want to find out the
 lattice
  parameters and unit cell volume after extraction of some ions from that
 unit
  cell. There is an option : OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we
 can
  vary a, b and c (3D case)
 
  Now my query are the followings:
 
  (1) whether a, b, and c are varied by keeping the volume constant?
 
  (2) if volume is indeed kept constant then is there any method in which I
  can very both volume and a,b,c?...as that is indeed happen
 experimentally if
  we extract some ions from a unit cell
 
  I do not want to use the case : vary volume with constant a:b:c
 ratio...as
  even a:b:c ratio will vary and depends from which position we are
 extracting
  the ions!!
 
  any response in this regard will be very useful for us.
 
  with regards,
 
  --
  Shamik Chakrabarti
  Senior Research Fellow
  Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
  Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
  IIT Kharagpur
  Kharagpur 721302
  INDIA
 
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[Wien] query about OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D case)

2012-03-21 Thread Peter Blaha
It varies a,b,and c and does NOT keep volume constant. But when you try it, 
you could find it out
yourself !!

Note: For such low symmetry cases, usually one must also optimize internal 
coordinates for each calculation.
Thus edit the optimize.job file.

Am 21.03.2012 15:25, schrieb shamik chakrabarti:
 Dear wien2k users,

 We are working on an orthorhombic cell and want to find out the lattice 
 parameters and unit cell volume after extraction of some ions from that unit 
 cell. There is an option :
 *OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D case)*

 Now my query are the followings:

 (1) whether a, b, and c are varied by keeping the volume constant?

 (2) if volume is indeed kept constant then is there any method in which I can 
 very both volume and a,b,c?...as that is indeed happen experimentally if we 
 extract some ions from a
 unit cell

 I do not want to use the case : vary volume with constant a:b:c ratio...as 
 even a:b:c ratio will vary and depends from which position we are extracting 
 the ions!!

 any response in this regard will be very useful for us.

 with regards,

 --
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 Senior Research Fellow
 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
 Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
 IIT Kharagpur
 Kharagpur 721302
 INDIA


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[Wien] query about OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D case)

2012-03-21 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear Peter Blaha Sir,

   Thank you very much for your reply.

with best regards,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Peter Blaha
pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.atwrote:

 It varies a,b,and c and does NOT keep volume constant. But when you try
 it, you could find it out
 yourself !!

 Note: For such low symmetry cases, usually one must also optimize internal
 coordinates for each calculation.
 Thus edit the optimize.job file.

 Am 21.03.2012 15:25, schrieb shamik chakrabarti:

 Dear wien2k users,

We are working on an orthorhombic cell and want to find out the
 lattice parameters and unit cell volume after extraction of some ions from
 that unit cell. There is an option :
 *OPTION 6 in volume optimization in which we can vary a, b and c (3D
 case)*


 Now my query are the followings:

 (1) whether a, b, and c are varied by keeping the volume constant?

 (2) if volume is indeed kept constant then is there any method in which I
 can very both volume and a,b,c?...as that is indeed happen experimentally
 if we extract some ions from a
 unit cell

 I do not want to use the case : vary volume with constant a:b:c
 ratio...as even a:b:c ratio will vary and depends from which position we
 are extracting the ions!!

 any response in this regard will be very useful for us.

 with regards,

 --
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 Senior Research Fellow
 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
 Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
 IIT Kharagpur
 Kharagpur 721302
 INDIA


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[Wien] help required

2012-03-21 Thread arqum hashmi
Dear Wien2k users,

i calculated oxide material surface calculation with 50 atoms in unit cell. Now 
i want to calculate it with LDA+U and this requires two files case.indm, 
case.inorb. 

In file case.inorb, i put the value of U and keep allo ther values as default.
In file case.indm, i keep all values as default.

can i get the correct results with this or not???or please give me any 
suggestion about this.
i will be very thankful to you


Thanks and Regards

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