[Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach

2012-06-26 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear wien2k users,

   We generally choose the value of U by fitting it with experimental
band gap or by calculating it through linear response method. Now my
question is that whether U is element specific or depends on the composite
in which the element reside? (*if I consider same magnetic configuration
for all the composites I am referring here...as antiferromagntism do
produce a band gap even without applying any U*)

To make it more clear, say for Fe d, I have seen in literature, people have
used U=4.5 to 5 eV..in some of our calculation we have even used U=6 eV
for Fe d to obtain better electronic structure having closer match with
experimental observation. Hence it looks that U for Fe d orbital can have
value ranging from 4.5-6 eV... that mean U is not element specific rather
it depends on the composite in which the element exist (I again want to
insist that if I consider same magnetic configuration for all the
composites). Am I right?

with regards,

-- 
Shamik Chakrabarti
Senior Research Fellow
Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
IIT Kharagpur
Kharagpur 721302
INDIA
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[Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach

2012-06-26 Thread Peter Blaha
Yes, U depends on the type of atom, but of course also on the specific 
compound.
For metallic Fe the U should be in the range of 0-2 eV at most, for some 
insulating compound with very localized states, it may go up to even 4-6 
(maybe even 8) eV.

Am 26.06.2012 06:42, schrieb shamik chakrabarti:
 Dear wien2k users,

 We generally choose the value of U by fitting it with
 experimental band gap or by calculating it through linear response
 method. Now my question is that whether U is element specific or depends
 on the composite in which the element reside? (*if I consider same
 magnetic configuration for all the composites I am referring here...as
 antiferromagntism do produce a band gap even without applying any U*)

 To make it more clear, say for Fe d, I have seen in literature, people
 have used U=4.5 to 5 eV..in some of our calculation we have even
 used U=6 eV for Fe d to obtain better electronic structure having closer
 match with experimental observation. Hence it looks that U for Fe d
 orbital can have value ranging from 4.5-6 eV... that mean U is not
 element specific rather it depends on the composite in which the element
 exist (I again want to insist that if I consider same magnetic
 configuration for all the composites). Am I right?

 with regards,

 --
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 Senior Research Fellow
 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
 Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
 IIT Kharagpur
 Kharagpur 721302
 INDIA


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[Wien] Problem in LDA+U calculation

2012-06-26 Thread Robert Laskowski
Hi,
I am nearly sure that orb form wien2k can be used in wienncm, there is no use 
of spins in orb program. 
But you should test it first, use one l per atom and check if the both give 
the save potentials. If they do, then use wien2k orb in wienncm run.

regards

Robert

On Monday 25 June 2012 22:07:52 Hena Das wrote:
 Yes, I am using Wienncm code.
 
 
 From: wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
 [wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] on behalf of
 tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at [tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at] Sent: Monday, 
 June
 25, 2012 4:00 PM
 To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
 Subject: Re: [Wien] Problem in LDA+U calculation
 
 I vaguely remember that around 2006, we changed something such that it
 should work, but I am not sure. If this is true, it could be that these
 changes were not included in the orb package of the NCM code (you are
 mentioning non-collinear spin configuration, right?).
 
 F. Tran
 
 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Peter Blaha wrote:
  I know that Pavel Novak programmed orb so that it can read more l-values
  per atom. However, I've never tested this myself because I believe there
  is no physics in it. In other words: I do not know an atom where it
  makes sense to put a U for d and f states. For lanthanides the 5d
  density will be quite delocalized and anyway only some fraction is
  inside the atomic sphere.
  
  So unless you can convince me that you have a physically sensible system,
  I don't know if I should debug this ...
  
  Am 25.06.2012 17:45, schrieb Hena Das:
   Dear All,
   
   I am doing a scf calculation for a particular non-collinear spin
   configuration. A am using LDA+U method. When I use the following
   case.inorb and case.indmc files:
   case.inorb
   
 1  3  0 nmod, natorb, ipr
   
   PRATT  1.0BROYD/PRATT, mixing
   
  1 1 3
  2 1 3
  3 1 2
  1  nsic 0..AMF, 1..SIC, 2..HFM
  
   0.65 0.07U J (Ry)
   0.65 0.07
   0.45 0.07
   
   case.indmc
   -9.  Emin cutoff energy
   
 3   number of atoms for which density matrix is
   
   calculated
   
 1  1  3  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 2  1  3  dtto for 2nd atom, repeat NATOM times
 3  1  2  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 0 0   r-index, (l,s)index
   
   the program executes properly without any error. However when I use the
   other set of case.inorb and case.indmc files:
   case.inorb
   
  1  3  0 nmod, natorb, ipr
   
   PRATT  1.0BROYD/PRATT, mixing
   
  1 2 3 2
  2 2 3 2
  3 1 2
  1  nsic 0..AMF, 1..SIC, 2..HFM
  
   0.65 0.07
   0.45 0.07U J (Ry)
   0.65 0.07
   0.45 0.07
   0.45 0.07
   
   case.indmc
   -9.  Emin cutoff energy
   
 3   number of atoms for which density matrix is
   
   calculated
   
 1  2  3  2  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 2  2  3  2  dtto for 2nd atom, repeat NATOM times
 3  1  2  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 0 0   r-index, (l,s)index
   
   the program stops by giving the error: error in Vorb. It is not writing
   case.vorbup/dn files. In the next set I just use U at the d states as
   well as at the f states for atom 1 and 2. Am I giving any wrong input?
   Help me to solve this problem.
   
   Waiting for suggestions.
   
   Best,
   Hena
   
   
   
   
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[Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach

2012-06-26 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear Prof. Peter Blaha,

Thank you very much for your reply. I got my answer.

with best regards,

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Peter Blaha
pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.atwrote:

 Yes, U depends on the type of atom, but of course also on the specific
 compound.
 For metallic Fe the U should be in the range of 0-2 eV at most, for some
 insulating compound with very localized states, it may go up to even 4-6
 (maybe even 8) eV.

 Am 26.06.2012 06:42, schrieb shamik chakrabarti:

 Dear wien2k users,

We generally choose the value of U by fitting it with
 experimental band gap or by calculating it through linear response
 method. Now my question is that whether U is element specific or depends
 on the composite in which the element reside? (*if I consider same

 magnetic configuration for all the composites I am referring here...as
 antiferromagntism do produce a band gap even without applying any U*)


 To make it more clear, say for Fe d, I have seen in literature, people
 have used U=4.5 to 5 eV..in some of our calculation we have even
 used U=6 eV for Fe d to obtain better electronic structure having closer
 match with experimental observation. Hence it looks that U for Fe d
 orbital can have value ranging from 4.5-6 eV... that mean U is not
 element specific rather it depends on the composite in which the element
 exist (I again want to insist that if I consider same magnetic
 configuration for all the composites). Am I right?

 with regards,

 --
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 Senior Research Fellow
 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
 Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
 IIT Kharagpur
 Kharagpur 721302
 INDIA


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[Wien] error in calculation with wien2k

2012-06-26 Thread farouk boutaiba
Thank sir for your help but i have already error when execute run_lapw:

?LAPW0 END
?forrtl: severe (71): integer divide by zero
?
?Stack trace terminated abnormally.
?
??? stop error

?


BOUTAIBA Farouk
University of Science and Technology 
of Oran
Tel:00213555497982


 De?: farouk boutaiba boutaiba_f at yahoo.fr
??: wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
Envoy? le : Dimanche 24 juin 2012 15h36
Objet?: error in calculation with wien2k
 

Dear wien2k user;

after instalation of wien2k code, I am getting following error while running x 
nn:

error while loading shared libraries: libguide.so: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
0.000u 0.000s 0:00.00 0.0%? 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
error: command?? /root/wien/nn nn.def?? failed

I have following settings:
Compiler: /opt/intel/fce/9.1.026/bin

Options:
current:FOPT:-FR -mp1 -w -prec_div -pc80 -pad -ip -O3 -axT
current:FPOPT:
current:LDFLAGS:$(FOPT)
 -L /opt/intel/mkl/9.1.023/lib/em64t -lguide -lpthread -L/lib64
current:DPARALLEL:'-DParallel'
current:R_LIBS:-lmkl_lapack -lmkl_em64t -lguide -lpthread -pthread
current:RP_LIBS:

CPU Information
Processor (CPU):   Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400S CPU @ 2.50GHz
Speed:  1,600.00 MHz
Cores:  4
Total memory (RAM):  3.0 GiB



system Information
Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64
System:  openSUSE 11.2 (x86_64)
KDE:  4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) release 6


I appreciate any help. Thanks in advance
?
BOUTAIBA Farouk
University of Science and Technology of Oran
Tel:00213555497982
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[Wien] error in calculation with wien2k

2012-06-26 Thread Gavin Abo
Try changing your options to:

current:LDFLAGS:$(FOPT) -L/opt/intel/mkl/9.1.023/lib/em64t -i-static 
-Bstatic -lguide -L/lib64 -Bdynamic -lpthread
current:R_LIBS:-Bstatic -lmkl_lapack -lmkl_em64t -lguide -pthread 
-Bdynamic -lpthread

Since your ifort/mkl is an old version,  the -static should have 
linked lpthread statically when it may have needed to be linked 
dynamically (like above). This is due to a known issue with some 
versions of Linux described in the 9.1 release notes:

http://www.ualberta.ca/AICT/RESEARCH/LinuxClusters/doc/ifc91/Release_Notes.htm

There is also the possibility that the 9.1 ifort/mkl versions will not 
work on your system.  As mentioned in the 9.1 release notes (under 
System Requirements), SUSE LINUX 9 was supported by Intel. However, your 
OpenSUSE 11.2 is a few versions ahead of this (see versions table: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux).  So you may need to update 
your fortran compiler.

On 6/26/2012 4:54 AM, farouk boutaiba wrote:
 Thank sir for your help but i have already error when execute run_lapw:

  LAPW0 END
  forrtl: severe (71): integer divide by zero

  Stack trace terminated abnormally.

 stop error


 BOUTAIBA Farouk
 University of Science and Technology of Oran
 Tel:00213555497982
 
 *De :* farouk boutaiba boutaiba_f at yahoo.fr
 *? :* wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at wien at 
 zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
 *Envoy? le :* Dimanche 24 juin 2012 15h36
 *Objet :* error in calculation with wien2k

 Dear wien2k user;

 after instalation of wien2k code, I am getting following error while 
 running x nn:

 error while loading shared libraries: libguide.so: cannot open shared 
 object file: No such file or directory
 0.000u 0.000s 0:00.00 0.0%  0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
 error: command   /root/wien/nn nn.def   failed

 I have following settings://
 Compiler: /opt/intel/fce/9.1.026/bin

 Options:
 current:FOPT:-FR -mp1 -w -prec_div -pc80 -pad -ip -O3 -axT
 current:FPOPT:
 current:LDFLAGS:$(FOPT)
   -L /opt/intel/mkl/9.1.023/lib/em64t -lguide -lpthread -L/lib64
 current:DPARALLEL:'-DParallel'
 current:R_LIBS:-lmkl_lapack -lmkl_em64t -lguide -lpthread -pthread
 current:RP_LIBS:
 //
 CPU Information
 Processor (CPU):   Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400S CPU @ 2.50GHz
Speed:  1,600.00 MHz
Cores:  4
 Total memory (RAM):  3.0 GiB



 system Information
Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64
System:  openSUSE 11.2 (x86_64)
KDE:  4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) release 6
 //
 //
 I appreciate any help. Thanks in advance

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 University of Science and Technology of Oran
 Tel:00213555497982





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[Wien] error in calculation with wien2k

2012-06-26 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Most probably you may need 
-L/opt/intel/mkl/9.1.023/lib/em64t
also at beginn of the R_LIBS line

Ciao
Gerhard

DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:
I think the problem, to be quite honest with you,
is that you have never actually known what the question is.


Dr. Gerhard H. Fecher
Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz

Von: wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at [wien-bounces at 
zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at]quot; im Auftrag von quot;Gavin Abo [gsabo at 
crimson.ua.edu]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2012 15:35
An: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Betreff: Re: [Wien] error in calculation with wien2k

Try changing your options to:

current:LDFLAGS:$(FOPT) -L/opt/intel/mkl/9.1.023/lib/em64t -i-static -Bstatic 
-lguide -L/lib64 -Bdynamic -lpthread
current:R_LIBS:-Bstatic -lmkl_lapack -lmkl_em64t -lguide -pthread -Bdynamic 
-lpthread

Since your ifort/mkl is an old version,  the -static should have linked 
lpthread statically when it may have needed to be linked dynamically (like 
above). This is due to a known issue with some versions of Linux described in 
the 9.1 release notes:

http://www.ualberta.ca/AICT/RESEARCH/LinuxClusters/doc/ifc91/Release_Notes.htm

There is also the possibility that the 9.1 ifort/mkl versions will not work on 
your system.  As mentioned in the 9.1 release notes (under System 
Requirements), SUSE LINUX 9 was supported by Intel.  However, your OpenSUSE 
11.2 is a few versions ahead of this (see versions table: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux).  So you may need to update your 
fortran compiler.

On 6/26/2012 4:54 AM, farouk boutaiba wrote:
Thank sir for your help but i have already error when execute run_lapw:

 LAPW0 END
 forrtl: severe (71): integer divide by zero

 Stack trace terminated abnormally.

stop error


BOUTAIBA Farouk
University of Science and Technology of Oran
Tel:00213555497982

De : farouk boutaiba boutaiba_f at yahoo.frmailto:boutaiba_f at yahoo.fr
? : wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.atmailto:wien at 
zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.atmailto:wien at 
zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Envoy? le : Dimanche 24 juin 2012 15h36
Objet : error in calculation with wien2k

Dear wien2k user;

after instalation of wien2k code, I am getting following error while running x 
nn:

error while loading shared libraries: libguide.so: cannot open shared object 
file: No such file or directory
0.000u 0.000s 0:00.00 0.0%  0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w
error: command   /root/wien/nn nn.def   failed


I have following settings:
Compiler: /opt/intel/fce/9.1.026/bin

Options:
current:FOPT:-FR -mp1 -w -prec_div -pc80 -pad -ip -O3 -axT
current:FPOPT:
current:LDFLAGS:$(FOPT)
 -L /opt/intel/mkl/9.1.023/lib/em64t -lguide -lpthread -L/lib64
current:DPARALLEL:'-DParallel'
current:R_LIBS:-lmkl_lapack -lmkl_em64t -lguide -lpthread -pthread
current:RP_LIBS:

CPU Information
Processor (CPU):   Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400S CPU @ 2.50GHz
  Speed:  1,600.00 MHz
  Cores:  4
Total memory (RAM):  3.0 GiB



system Information
  Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop x86_64
  System:  openSUSE 11.2 (x86_64)
  KDE:  4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) release 6



I appreciate any help. Thanks in advance


BOUTAIBA Farouk
University of Science and Technology of Oran
Tel:00213555497982






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[Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach

2012-06-26 Thread Shamik Chakrabarti
Dear Haranath Ghosh,

 Yes U can be used for p orbital of oxygen...but what value of U
you are going to use that depends on the system and the problem you are
studied. also what error you are getting??...that is not clear from
your mail

with regards,

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Haranath Ghosh ghoshharanath at 
yahoo.comwrote:

 Dear experienced Users and developer Wien2k,

  Is it possible to use U value for Oxygens with l=1 orbitals. I always get
 error. Thanks for your response.

 with best regards, Haranath Ghosh

 --- On *Tue, 6/26/12, shamik chakrabarti shamikphy at gmail.com* wrote:


 From: shamik chakrabarti shamikphy at gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach
 To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
 Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2012, 6:37 PM


 Dear Prof. Peter Blaha,

 Thank you very much for your reply. I got my answer.

 with best regards,

 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Peter Blaha 
 pblaha at 
 theochem.tuwien.ac.athttp://us.mc1606.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pblaha at 
 theochem.tuwien.ac.at
  wrote:

 Yes, U depends on the type of atom, but of course also on the specific
 compound.
 For metallic Fe the U should be in the range of 0-2 eV at most, for some
 insulating compound with very localized states, it may go up to even 4-6
 (maybe even 8) eV.

 Am 26.06.2012 06:42, schrieb shamik chakrabarti:

 Dear wien2k users,

We generally choose the value of U by fitting it with
 experimental band gap or by calculating it through linear response
 method. Now my question is that whether U is element specific or depends
 on the composite in which the element reside? (*if I consider same

 magnetic configuration for all the composites I am referring here...as
 antiferromagntism do produce a band gap even without applying any U*)


 To make it more clear, say for Fe d, I have seen in literature, people
 have used U=4.5 to 5 eV..in some of our calculation we have even
 used U=6 eV for Fe d to obtain better electronic structure having closer
 match with experimental observation. Hence it looks that U for Fe d
 orbital can have value ranging from 4.5-6 eV... that mean U is not
 element specific rather it depends on the composite in which the element
 exist (I again want to insist that if I consider same magnetic
 configuration for all the composites). Am I right?

 with regards,

 --
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 Senior Research Fellow
 Dept. of Physics  Meteorology
 Material Processing  Solid State Ionics Lab
 IIT Kharagpur
 Kharagpur 721302
 INDIA


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[Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach

2012-06-26 Thread Laurence Marks
A general comment: you may want to use the onsite exact-exchange instead of
LDA/GGA+U. It is less sensitive to the precise environment. However, in my
experience this (and LDA/GGA+U) is better just of d-orbitals, and less
effective for O p levels.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Shamik Chakrabarti shamikiitkgp at gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Haranath Ghosh,

   Yes U can be used for p orbital of oxygen...but what value of U
 you are going to use that depends on the system and the problem you are
 studied. also what error you are getting??...that is not clear from
 your mail

  with regards,

 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Haranath Ghosh ghoshharanath at 
 yahoo.comwrote:

   Dear experienced Users and developer Wien2k,

  Is it possible to use U value for Oxygens with l=1 orbitals. I always
 get error. Thanks for your response.

 with best regards, Haranath Ghosh

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 From: shamik chakrabarti shamikphy at gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Wien] A basic question about GGA+U approach
 To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users wien at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
 Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2012, 6:37 PM


 Dear Prof. Peter Blaha,

  Thank you very much for your reply. I got my answer.

  with best regards,

 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Peter Blaha 
 pblaha at 
 theochem.tuwien.ac.athttp://us.mc1606.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pblaha 
 at theochem.tuwien.ac.at
  wrote:

 Yes, U depends on the type of atom, but of course also on the specific
 compound.
 For metallic Fe the U should be in the range of 0-2 eV at most, for some
 insulating compound with very localized states, it may go up to even 4-6
 (maybe even 8) eV.

 Am 26.06.2012 06:42, schrieb shamik chakrabarti:

 Dear wien2k users,

We generally choose the value of U by fitting it with
 experimental band gap or by calculating it through linear response
 method. Now my question is that whether U is element specific or depends
  on the composite in which the element reside? (*if I consider same

 magnetic configuration for all the composites I am referring here...as
  antiferromagntism do produce a band gap even without applying any U*)


 To make it more clear, say for Fe d, I have seen in literature, people
 have used U=4.5 to 5 eV..in some of our calculation we have even
 used U=6 eV for Fe d to obtain better electronic structure having closer
 match with experimental observation. Hence it looks that U for Fe d
 orbital can have value ranging from 4.5-6 eV... that mean U is not
 element specific rather it depends on the composite in which the element
 exist (I again want to insist that if I consider same magnetic
 configuration for all the composites). Am I right?

 with regards,

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[Wien] Problem in LDA+U calculation

2012-06-26 Thread Hena Das
Hi Robert,

Thank you for your suggestion. I checked that the orb executables from Wien2k 
giving the same problem. The case.vorbup file is not complete, it has only one 
line written  1  1  3  0.00E+00 nmod, nsp, natorb, muB*Bext (Ry), spin 
up. 

Waiting for more suggestions.

Best,
Hena


From: wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at [wien-bounces at 
zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] on behalf of Robert Laskowski 
[rol...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:21 AM
To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
Subject: Re: [Wien] Problem in LDA+U calculation

Hi,
I am nearly sure that orb form wien2k can be used in wienncm, there is no use
of spins in orb program.
But you should test it first, use one l per atom and check if the both give
the save potentials. If they do, then use wien2k orb in wienncm run.

regards

Robert

On Monday 25 June 2012 22:07:52 Hena Das wrote:
 Yes, I am using Wienncm code.

 
 From: wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
 [wien-bounces at zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] on behalf of
 tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at [tran at theochem.tuwien.ac.at] Sent: Monday, 
 June
 25, 2012 4:00 PM
 To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users
 Subject: Re: [Wien] Problem in LDA+U calculation

 I vaguely remember that around 2006, we changed something such that it
 should work, but I am not sure. If this is true, it could be that these
 changes were not included in the orb package of the NCM code (you are
 mentioning non-collinear spin configuration, right?).

 F. Tran

 On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, Peter Blaha wrote:
  I know that Pavel Novak programmed orb so that it can read more l-values
  per atom. However, I've never tested this myself because I believe there
  is no physics in it. In other words: I do not know an atom where it
  makes sense to put a U for d and f states. For lanthanides the 5d
  density will be quite delocalized and anyway only some fraction is
  inside the atomic sphere.
 
  So unless you can convince me that you have a physically sensible system,
  I don't know if I should debug this ...
 
  Am 25.06.2012 17:45, schrieb Hena Das:
   Dear All,
  
   I am doing a scf calculation for a particular non-collinear spin
   configuration. A am using LDA+U method. When I use the following
   case.inorb and case.indmc files:
   case.inorb
  
 1  3  0 nmod, natorb, ipr
  
   PRATT  1.0BROYD/PRATT, mixing
  
  1 1 3
  2 1 3
  3 1 2
  1  nsic 0..AMF, 1..SIC, 2..HFM
  
   0.65 0.07U J (Ry)
   0.65 0.07
   0.45 0.07
  
   case.indmc
   -9.  Emin cutoff energy
  
 3   number of atoms for which density matrix is
  
   calculated
  
 1  1  3  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 2  1  3  dtto for 2nd atom, repeat NATOM times
 3  1  2  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 0 0   r-index, (l,s)index
  
   the program executes properly without any error. However when I use the
   other set of case.inorb and case.indmc files:
   case.inorb
  
  1  3  0 nmod, natorb, ipr
  
   PRATT  1.0BROYD/PRATT, mixing
  
  1 2 3 2
  2 2 3 2
  3 1 2
  1  nsic 0..AMF, 1..SIC, 2..HFM
  
   0.65 0.07
   0.45 0.07U J (Ry)
   0.65 0.07
   0.45 0.07
   0.45 0.07
  
   case.indmc
   -9.  Emin cutoff energy
  
 3   number of atoms for which density matrix is
  
   calculated
  
 1  2  3  2  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 2  2  3  2  dtto for 2nd atom, repeat NATOM times
 3  1  2  index of 1st atom, number of L's, L1
 0 0   r-index, (l,s)index
  
   the program stops by giving the error: error in Vorb. It is not writing
   case.vorbup/dn files. In the next set I just use U at the d states as
   well as at the f states for atom 1 and 2. Am I giving any wrong input?
   Help me to solve this problem.
  
   Waiting for suggestions.
  
   Best,
   Hena
  
  
  
  
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