[Wien] optic sum rules

2013-09-30 Thread ali ghafari
Dear Prof. Blaha

I have calculated the optical properties of TiSe2 by MBJ potential with 6000, 
5 and 9 kpoints which generated after scf by x kgen as discussed in the 
UG.
As discussed in the paper of Prof. Claudia Draxl (computer physics comm. 175, 
1-14 (2006)) the sum rule 1 and 2 show 'an effective number of electrons 
contributing to the absoption process as a function of energy'.
but my calculations lead to :
6000 kpoints:   

sum rule 1: Int(sigma)dw  19.14 
sum rule 2: Int(eloss.w)dw18.93
sum rule 3: Int(eloss/w)dw1.51
5 kpoints

sum rule 1: Int(sigma)dw  19.08
sum rule 2: Int(eloss.w)dw18.94
sum rule 3: Int(eloss/w)dw1.52

9 kpoints

sum rule 1: Int(sigma)dw  10.125 
sum rule 2: Int(eloss.w)dw10.035
sum rule 3: Int(eloss/w)dw1.51
the results show that in 9 kpoints the value of 'sum rule 2' significantly 
decreases . in the UG it has mensioned that for the optic we need dense kpoints 
but how many? how can I check it for optic? 
Best Regards 

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Re: [Wien] optic sum rules

2013-09-30 Thread Rocquefelte

There is definitely no need to go to such a high number of k-points.
In the paper of Claudia, they were looking at metallic compounds, for 
which we need to have a very dense k-mesh (for the intraband transitions).
In your case you expect a semiconductor and thus you will have only 
interband transitions. Thus 6000 kpoints is already converged to my 
point of view.
I should say that the best way to insure the convergency in the present 
case is to plot the epsilon2 as a function of the energy for instance 
and to compare this quantity with different k-meshes. In your case, try 
to do 300 kpoints first and then 500, 1000, 2000, 3000 kpoints ... You 
will certainly reach the convergency at about 1000-2000 kpoints ...


Regards

Xavier
P.S.: The values obtained for 9 kpoints are curious but I imagine 
that you had a prob



Le 9/30/2013 4:59 PM, ali ghafari a écrit :

Dear Prof. Blaha

I have calculated the optical properties of TiSe2 by MBJ potential 
with 6000, 5 and 9 kpoints which generated after scf by x kgen 
as discussed in the UG.
As discussed in the paper of Prof. Claudia Draxl (computer physics 
comm. 175, 1-14 (2006)) the sum rule 1 and 2 show 'an effective number 
of electrons contributing to the absoption process as a function of 
energy'.

but my calculations lead to :
6000 kpoints:
sum rule 1: Int(sigma)dw  19.14
sum rule 2: Int(eloss.w)dw18.93
sum rule 3: Int(eloss/w)dw1.51
5 kpoints
sum rule 1: Int(sigma)dw  19.08
sum rule 2: Int(eloss.w)dw18.94
sum rule 3: Int(eloss/w)dw1.52
  
9 kpoints


sum rule 1: Int(sigma)dw  10.125
sum rule 2: Int(eloss.w)dw10.035
sum rule 3: Int(eloss/w)dw1.51
the results show that in 9 kpoints the value of 'sum rule 2' 
significantly decreases . in the UG it has mensioned that for the 
optic we need dense kpoints but how many? how can I check it for optic?

Best Regards
Ali


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[Wien] symmetso warns operation was not found in struct

2013-09-30 Thread Elias Assmann

Dear List,

For a rhombohedral structure, I did `initso´ after converging a non-SO 
calculation.  `symmetso´ complains (in the last section of `outsymmetso´):


WARNING !!
nsym found by symmetry differs from iord read in struct  12   4

Why does it say that?  This would seem normal to be, since it is 
`symmetso´s job to reduce the symmetry.


After that:

 Symmetry operation   2
0.50.866030.0
0.86603   -0.50.0
   -0.00.0   -1.0
0.00.00.0
   -1.   -0.   -0.0.
0.0.   -1.0.
0.   -1.0.0.


   WARNING !
   this symmetry operation was not found in struct!!

This kind of thing is repeated a couple of times.  What does this mean?

The last three lines of numbers specify a symmetry operation which *is* 
in fact in the struct file; what are the four lines before that?


I am not very familiar with SO, nor with rhombohedral symmetry 
calculations, so I am unsure if it is safe to continue.  The new 
`struct´ file created looks fine.  It has 4 symmetry operations.  The 
`ksym´ is empty, is that normal?


Wow, that was a lot of questions.  Thank you for you patience.


Elias

PS: I am using Wien2k13.
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