Re: [Wien] Guidance require for structure generation

2014-07-04 Thread Naseem Hassan
Really appreciate last two responses. Thank you both of you Sir.

Everyone helped me on many occasions. I am grateful to all of you.

Best regards
Naseem


On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Michael Sluydts michael.sluy...@ugent.be
wrote:

  Hello Naseem,

 The problem you have is a lack of information. The spacegroup and
 stoichiometry still give you freedom through wyckoff positions to create a
 variety of structures.

 There are multiple avenues you can take. The first is to search the
 literature and databases (COD: http://www.crystallography.net and ICSD if
 you have access to it http://www.fiz-karlsruhe.com/icsd_home.html),
 though I did not immediately find anything of interest in COD. If you
 cannot find the structure then it becomes a different problem, rather than
 determining materials properties you will have to do structure prediction.

 Structure prediction is a discipline in itself (literature available) and
 can take a lot of time. If you know of similar compounds you may be able to
 base yourself on them as a starting point to reduce your search space, then
 try a few different configurations for the atoms, optimize your cells and
 see what is lowest in energy.

 Other more advanced methods are things like genetic algorithms where you
 try different structures then combine them and gradually converge to a
 candidate for the optimal structure. Software like USPEX exists for this
 but I don't think it has been used with wien2k, though interfacing with it
 should not be entirely impossible.

 Trying to get more details on what you might be looking for is going to be
 the first step either way.


 Good luck,

 Michael Sluydts



 Naseem Hassan schreef op 4/07/2014 11:53:

   Thank You All.

 I benefited from all of you on mailing list. You are absolutely right I
 should learn instead of spoon feeding. I can understand fully that experts
 are already handling the burden of below average questions.

 Inspite of all your recommendation I wish that someone should suggest a
 road map of topics that leads to solution of making new structure in
 WIEN2k. I see many emails on mailing list that suggest the similar kind of
 problem of making structure for a specific space group. I really wanted to
 learn this but always lost in multiple topics. Many of seniors to whom I
 know personally know can not solve this problem. Just suggesting, that it
 will beneficial for newcomers if someone can prepare a tutorial on this
 issue. We sometimes do not work on compounds just because we cannot make
 structure file in wien2k.

  Best Regards
  Naseem



 On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Juan Manuel Perez Mato wmppe...@lg.ehu.es
  wrote:

 Please, learn some elementary crystallography in the International year
 of crystallography.

  regards,

  J. Manuel Perez-Mato
 Fac. Ciencia y Tecnologia,
 Universidad del Pais Vasco, UPV
 48080 BILBAO,
 Spain

 tel. +34 946012473 %2B34%20946012473
 fax. +34 946013500 %2B34%20946013500
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   El 04/07/2014, a las 02:37, Naseem Hassan escribió:

  Dear Sir,

  Every space group has some ideal positions. From little experience in
 the past, I believe on selecting 3 atoms in the start of structure
 generation and assigning positions for three atoms will give the primitive
 cell for this space group. In this primitive cell other positions appear
 automatically by Wien2k. Does a space group has not ideal positions ?. I
 need ideal positions for three atoms and then I will relax the structure to
 actual positions for this compound. Modeling a material is possible without
 experimental results. I am hopeful that you will propose some kind of
 solution.

  Thank you
  Best Regards
  Naseem Hassan




 On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Peter Blaha pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at
  wrote:

 Without atomic positions one cannot create a structure.

 Am 03.07.2014 19:46, schrieb Naseem Hassan:

 Dear Wien2k experts

 I am reporting this difficulty after going through mailing list and
 literature review. Kindly guide how can I generate structure file with
 the following information.

 Compound Formula:   V3S7Cl
 Space Group: C mmm#65 Orthorhombic
 lattice parameters:  a=20.6   b=3.8, c=3.9

 I need *general structure file* for this compound I will try to remove
 error associated with RMTs and other initializing parameters by my self.

 Alternatively,

 If I select 3 atoms in the structure generation and I insert all the
 parameters as stated above then I just miss the position of three atoms
 in the structure file. In order to fill the positions I checked the
 wycoff psoitions from the Bilbao Crystallographic server but I am unable
 to understand which position should I give. *If this approach is
 correct* then kindly just *provide the positions* which I can fill at
 least ideal positions for this kind of space group so that I can fill
 and later on I will relax my structure to get actual positons. Kindly do
 

[Wien] got error when use mbj

2014-07-04 Thread Tuan Vu
Hello
I make step by step in user's guide about mbj for zns and got error (last
command run_lapw -i 80)

start   (Fri Jul  4 15:03:08 MSK 2014) with lapw0 (40/99 to go)

cycle 1 (Fri Jul  4 15:03:08 MSK 2014)  (40/99 to go)

   lapw0 -grr -p   (15:03:08) starting parallel lapw0 at Fri Jul  4 
 15:03:08 MSK 2014
 .machine0 : processors
running lapw0 in single mode
2.3u 0.0s 0:02.39 99.5% 0+0k 0+1760io 0pf+0w
   lapw0 -p(15:03:11) starting parallel lapw0 at Fri Jul  4 15:03:11 MSK 
 2014
 .machine0 : processors
running lapw0 in single mode
0.1u 0.0s 0:00.14 92.8% 0+0k 0+472io 0pf+0w
error: command   /home/vutuan/WIEN_13K/lapw0para -c lapw0.def   failed

   stop error

Please help.
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Re: [Wien] got error when use mbj

2014-07-04 Thread tran

Hi,

it is difficult to answer without more information. Is there a message
in lapw0.error?

F. Tran

On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, Tuan Vu wrote:


Hello
I make step by step in user's guide about mbj for zns and got error (last 
command run_lapw -i 80)

start   (Fri Jul  4 15:03:08 MSK 2014) with lapw0 (40/99 to go)

cycle 1 (Fri Jul  4 15:03:08 MSK 2014)  (40/99 to go)

   lapw0 -grr -p(15:03:08) starting parallel lapw0 at Fri Jul  4 15:03:08 
MSK 2014
 .machine0 : processors
running lapw0 in single mode
2.3u 0.0s 0:02.39 99.5% 0+0k 0+1760io 0pf+0w
   lapw0 -p (15:03:11) starting parallel lapw0 at Fri Jul  4 15:03:11 MSK 2014
 .machine0 : processors
running lapw0 in single mode
0.1u 0.0s 0:00.14 92.8% 0+0k 0+472io 0pf+0w
error: command   /home/vutuan/WIEN_13K/lapw0para -c lapw0.def   failed

   stop error
Please help.



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[Wien] questions

2014-07-04 Thread MAHDI SALMANI HIRMAND
Dear Prof. Blaha,
Is there a Package for finding elastic constants of symmetries with WIEN2k?
Is there a Package for finding the Pressure of phase transition with WIEN2k?

Your's
Mahdi
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Re: [Wien] questions

2014-07-04 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
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elastic constants Wien2k

Ciao
Gerhard

DEEP THOUGHT in D. Adams; Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:
I think the problem, to be quite honest with you,
is that you have never actually known what the question is.


Dr. Gerhard H. Fecher
Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz

Von: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
[wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at]quot; im Auftrag von quot;MAHDI 
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Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juli 2014 15:25
An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Betreff: [Wien] questions

Dear Prof. Blaha,
Is there a Package for finding elastic constants of symmetries with WIEN2k?
Is there a Package for finding the Pressure of phase transition with WIEN2k?

Your's
Mahdi
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Re: [Wien] Guidance require for structure generation

2014-07-04 Thread Gavin Abo
FYI, there is also the Determining Structure from Symmetry slides in 
the The International Tables for Crystallography lecture notes at:


https://chemistry.osu.edu/~woodward/chem_754_files/Page405.htm
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