[Wien] Fermi energy & SO calculation

2017-03-29 Thread Arena Konta
Dear prof. Tran,

I appreciate your prompt response. I understand that the k-mesh for the band 
structure plot is not suitable for calculations of DOS.

Please, if I understand correctly:
If I increase the number of K-points, then for DOS we use Efermi from 
case.scf2? The same for Fermi surface calculation? And for Band Structure we 
always use :FER *scf -last value (from saved data)?

Thank you

Arena
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Re: [Wien] Fermi energy & SO calculation

2017-03-29 Thread tran

case.klist_band is suitable ONLY for band structure plotting.
Yes, tetra (DOS) will use :FER in case.scf2.
For Fermi surface, I understand from the UG that the Fermi energy used
is the one specified for spaghetti (i.e., case.scf).

On Wednesday 2017-03-29 17:03, Arena Konta wrote:


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 17:03:04
From: Arena Konta 
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Subject: [Wien] Fermi energy & SO calculation

Dear prof. Tran,

I appreciate your prompt response. I understand that the k-mesh for the band 
structure plot is not suitable for calculations of DOS.

Please, if I understand correctly:
If I increase the number of K-points, then for DOS we use Efermi from 
case.scf2? The same for Fermi surface calculation? And for Band Structure we 
always use :FER *scf -last value (from saved data)?

Thank you

Arena
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Re: [Wien] Discontinuity in Seebeck coefficient

2017-03-29 Thread Nacir GUECHI
yes, i think its correct but you should fix your zero chemical potential, 
because in doped materials the Fermi level moves into the band gap. 
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surfaces et interfaces des matériaux solides (L.E.S.I.M.S), université Sétif1 
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Le Mercredi 29 mars 2017 13h06, Pascal Boulet  a 
écrit :
 

 Hello,
If I understand correctly, this is not a discontinuity and the result is 
correct. When the chemical potential is in the valence band (p-doping) S is 
positive (transport by holes). When the chemical potential is in the conduction 
band (n-doping) S is negative (transport by electrons). In between S must be 
zero somewhere. « Where » is in the band gap, where there is no carriers.
Best regardsPascal
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Le 28 mars 2017 à 10:24, elsa...@alumni.uv.es a écrit :

Dear Wien2k users,
I was calculating the transport properties for 2D material. In my results when 
I represented the seebeck coeffecient as a function of the chemical potential, 
I found discontinuty in the seebeck coefficient as I have many zero values for 
it at different value of the chemical potentials. I don't know if this 
behaviour is normal or may be I have a problem in the calculation. I attached 
in this message the shape of the curve for the case to be able to see it. 
Best regards
Ana

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Re: [Wien] Help about mBJ

2017-03-29 Thread hüsnü kara
Hi,

It is not from experiment, from theoretical investigation, yes it does not
exist.

Best Regards,

2017-03-29 14:22 GMT+03:00 hüsnü kara :

> Hi,
>
> I mean that with mBJ and without mBJ. It is 0.6 eV without mBJ, 0.5 eV
> with mBJ
>
> Best Regards,
>
> 2017-03-29 13:43 GMT+03:00 hüsnü kara :
>
>> Dear Wien Users,
>>
>> I study on magnetic quaternary-Heusler alloys. I did band structure
>> calculations with GGA and GGA+mBJ approximations. I concluded that bandgaps
>> with GGA+mBJ are smaller than ones with GGA. So could I tell that GGA+mBJ
>> approximation is not appopriate for quaternary-Heusler alloys?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hüsnü Kara
>>
>> ---
>>
>
>
>
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>
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> İstanbul / Turkey
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Re: [Wien] Discontinuity in Seebeck coefficient

2017-03-29 Thread Pascal Boulet
Hello,

If I understand correctly, this is not a discontinuity and the result is 
correct. When the chemical potential is in the valence band (p-doping) S is 
positive (transport by holes). When the chemical potential is in the conduction 
band (n-doping) S is negative (transport by electrons). In between S must be 
zero somewhere. « Where » is in the band gap, where there is no carriers.

Best regards
Pascal

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Le 28 mars 2017 à 10:24, elsa...@alumni.uv.es a écrit :

> Dear Wien2k users,
> I was calculating the transport properties for 2D material. In my results 
> when I represented the seebeck coeffecient as a function of the chemical 
> potential, I found discontinuty in the seebeck coefficient as I have many 
> zero values for it at different value of the chemical potentials. I don't 
> know if this behaviour is normal or may be I have a problem in the 
> calculation. I attached in this message the shape of the curve for the case 
> to be able to see it. 
> Best regards
> Ana
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[Wien] Fermi energy & SO calculation

2017-03-29 Thread Arena Konta
Dear All,
I have problem with determination of the right value of Fermi energy in my SO 
calculation. Which value should I use to plot bandstructure, DOS and Fermi 
surface? When Ef  from case.scf should be equal the one from case.scf2 ? What i 
we use mJB potential?

SCF: (100 000 k-points)

lapw0
lapw1
lapwso
lapw2 -c -so
lcore
mixer

in cycle 98ETEST: .00135000   CTEST: 0
ec cc and fc_conv 1 1 1

>   stop

Then:

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045


Bandstructure (the same number of k-points)
lapw1 -band
lapwso
lapw2 -band -qtl -so -c 
spaghetti -so

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY   =   0.5268010276 (!!!)



DOS (the same number of k-points)
lapw1
lapwso
lapw2 -qtl -so -c 

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045

Fermi surface
kgen -so (500 000 k-points)
lapw1
lapwso
lapw2 -so -fermi -c -so 

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5199105116

Thank you

Arena, Moscow

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Re: [Wien] Help about mBJ

2017-03-29 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
NO you cannot make such a conclusion, 
it would imply that always the method is correct that gives the largest band 
gap, this is nonsense.

What is the band gap from experiment ? 
I guess it is not known because the compounds do not exist, do they ?

Ciao
Gerhard

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Institut of Inorganic and Analytical Chemistry
Johannes Gutenberg - University
55099 Mainz
and
Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids
01187 Dresden

Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von hüsnü kara 
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Dear Wien Users,

I study on magnetic quaternary-Heusler alloys. I did band structure 
calculations with GGA and GGA+mBJ approximations. I concluded that bandgaps 
with GGA+mBJ are smaller than ones with GGA. So could I tell that GGA+mBJ 
approximation is not appopriate for quaternary-Heusler alloys?

Best Regards,

Hüsnü Kara

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Re: [Wien] Help about mBJ

2017-03-29 Thread hüsnü kara
Hi,

I mean that with mBJ and without mBJ. It is 0.6 eV without mBJ, 0.5 eV with
mBJ

Best Regards,

2017-03-29 13:43 GMT+03:00 hüsnü kara :

> Dear Wien Users,
>
> I study on magnetic quaternary-Heusler alloys. I did band structure
> calculations with GGA and GGA+mBJ approximations. I concluded that bandgaps
> with GGA+mBJ are smaller than ones with GGA. So could I tell that GGA+mBJ
> approximation is not appopriate for quaternary-Heusler alloys?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hüsnü Kara
>
> ---
>



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Re: [Wien] Fermi energy & SO calculation

2017-03-29 Thread tran

Hi,

"lapw1 -band" uses case.klist_band instead of case.klist.
case.klist_band contains the k-points along your chosen k-path in
the BZ, such that the electron density and Fermi energy generated
by lapw2 are nonsense.

FT

On Wednesday 2017-03-29 11:56, Arena Konta wrote:


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 11:56:22
From: Arena Konta 
Reply-To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users 
To: wien 
Subject: [Wien] Fermi energy & SO calculation

Dear All,
I have problem with determination of the right value of Fermi energy in my SO 
calculation. Which value should I use to plot bandstructure, DOS and Fermi 
surface? When Ef  from case.scf should be equal the one from case.scf2 ? What i 
we use mJB potential?

SCF: (100 000 k-points)

lapw0
lapw1
lapwso
lapw2 -c -so
lcore
mixer

in cycle 98ETEST: .00135000   CTEST: 0
ec cc and fc_conv 1 1 1


  stop


Then:

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045


Bandstructure (the same number of k-points)
lapw1 -band
lapwso
lapw2 -band -qtl -so -c
spaghetti -so

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY   =   0.5268010276 (!!!)



DOS (the same number of k-points)
lapw1
lapwso
lapw2 -qtl -so -c

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045

Fermi surface
kgen -so (500 000 k-points)
lapw1
lapwso
lapw2 -so -fermi -c -so

case.scf
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5200132045 (the last one)
case.scf2
:FER  : F E R M I - ENERGY(TETRAH.M.)=   0.5199105116

Thank you

Arena, Moscow

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Re: [Wien] Help about mBJ

2017-03-29 Thread tran

Hi,

What is the value of :GAP in case.scf of the two calculations?
What do you mean with "GGA+mBJ"?

On Wednesday 2017-03-29 12:43, hüsnü kara wrote:


Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:43:18
From: hüsnü kara 
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To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users 
Subject: [Wien] Help about mBJ


Dear Wien Users,

I study on magnetic quaternary-Heusler alloys. I did band structure 
calculations with GGA and GGA+mBJ approximations. I concluded that bandgaps 
with GGA+mBJ are smaller than ones with GGA. So could I tell that GGA+mBJ 
approximation is not appopriate for
quaternary-Heusler alloys?

Best Regards,

Hüsnü Kara


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[Wien] Lattice thermal conductivity

2017-03-29 Thread hüsnü kara
Dear Peter Blaha and Wien Users,

Is there any free code to calculate lattice thermal conductivity by Wien2k
output?

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[Wien] Help about mBJ

2017-03-29 Thread hüsnü kara
Dear Wien Users,

I study on magnetic quaternary-Heusler alloys. I did band structure
calculations with GGA and GGA+mBJ approximations. I concluded that bandgaps
with GGA+mBJ are smaller than ones with GGA. So could I tell that GGA+mBJ
approximation is not appopriate for quaternary-Heusler alloys?

Best Regards,

Hüsnü Kara

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Re: [Wien] Discontinuity in Seebeck coefficient

2017-03-29 Thread Lyudmila Dobysheva

28.03.2017 12:24, elsa...@alumni.uv.es wrote:
> I was calculating the transport properties for 2D material.

Nobody answers your letter because, IMHO, either nobody knows (?), or 
nobody understands the question (me, for example). No use to repeat, try 
and make it clearer.


> In my results when I represented the seebeck coeffecient

I do not know what is seebeck coeffecient.


asa function of the chemical potential,


I do not know how you did this.


I found discontinutyin the seebeck coefficient as I have

> many zero values for it at different value of the chemical
> potentials.

I do not see this at your picture, there is a pure unknown line, and 
it's not clear what are the values obtained.



I don't know  if this behaviour is normal


I don't know also.

> or may be I have a problem in the calculation.

May be, there is no information in your letter.

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