[Wien] Strange discontinuity for GGA calculations

2010-09-06 Thread Natalie Holzwarth
Dear Wien2k mailing list,
 For many years, we have been using the wien2k code as a standard for
comparing our PAW calculations.   Recently, we noticed some difficulties
particularly with GGA calculations.  The attached example is for Sc in an
fcc structure using what we think are well converged parameters
(RMT*KMAX=9, GMAX=14, 16x16x16 kpoints).  We calculate the total energy
versus lattice constant both for lda and gga varying RMT to make sure that
there is no sensitivity to the linear LAPW/APW parameters.  RMT = 2.0,
1.6, and 1.5 for lda/gga, lda1/gga1, and lda2/gga2, respectively.  The
binding energy curves are identical for the 3 lda calculations.  But for
the gga calculations, there seems to be a very strange discontinuity at
the lattice constant of 9.0 which is very sensitive to the choice of RMT.
The Sc.in1 file that we used for gga is attached and was obtained from
running lstart.  Of course I will be very embarrassed if there is a typo
in our files, but we have not been able to discover it for several days.
Any advice will be very much appreciated.Thanks, kindly,
Natalie Holzwarth

N. A. W. Holzwarth  email: natalie at wfu.edu
Department of Physics   www: http://www.wfu.edu/~natalie
Wake Forest University  voice: 336-758-5510
Winston-Salem, NC 27109-7507fax: 336-758-6142
U. S. A.
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WFFIL  EF=0.47339   (WFFIL, WFPRI, ENFIL, SUPWF) 
  9.00   126 (R-MT*K-MAX; MAX L IN WF, V-NMT
  0.305  0  (GLOBAL E-PARAMETER WITH n OTHER CHOICES, global APW/LAPW)
 00.30  0.000 CONT 1
 0   -3.70  0.001 STOP 1
 1   -2.17  0.002 CONT 1
 10.30  0.000 CONT 1
 20.30  0.005 CONT 1
K-VECTORS FROM UNIT:4  -12.9   2.527   emin/emax/nband
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Sc 
F   LATTICE,NONEQUIV.ATOMS:  1225_Fm-3m
MODE OF CALC=NREL unit=bohr
   9.0   9.0   9.0  90.0  90.0  90.0
ATOM   1: X=0. Y=0. Z=0.
  MULT= 1  ISPLIT= 2
Sc NPT=  781  R0=0.5000 RMT=1.5000   Z: 21.0   
LOCAL ROT MATRIX:1.000 0.000 0.000
 0.000 1.000 0.000
 0.000 0.000 1.000
  48  NUMBER OF SYMMETRY OPERATIONS
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[Wien] Strange discontinuity for GGA calculations

2010-09-07 Thread Natalie Holzwarth
Dear Peter,
 Thanks so much for solving this problem.   Now I am wondering
how many calculations I will need to redo to make sure that everything is
well-converged.  For this example of fcc Sc, I added the following lines
to Sc.in0:
NR2V   FFTopt IFFT
  45   45   45 5.000  1
Perhaps it would have worked as well to replace the last line by
  -1  -1 -1  5.000   1  ?
Do you generally add similar lines to all of your calculations or only
those using PBE?In your experience is IFFTfact=5.0 always necessary or
is Sc particularly problematic?  Or is it because we have chosen to use
such small values of RMT?   I would have thought that as long as Gmax is
large enough, and the linearization energies are good enough, the
calculations should be insensitive to RMT.   Normally this seems to be the
case.   It would be nice if there were a universal recipe for always
getting converged results...
THanks again for all of your advice,
  Natalie



On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Peter Blaha wrote:

> Sorry, but I cannot reproduce your results.
>
> With good parameters I get nice and smooth curves.
> The lattice parameter (PBE) is near 8.73, which is smaller
> than in your plots.
> The RMT dependency is quite small, provided you use good parameters:
>
> RKmax=10 (9 is probably almost ok)
> NUMK: I used 11000 (22x22x22) points in full-BZ.(16x16x16 leads to some noise)
> Most important for GGA calculations: You have to use a VERY good FFT mesh for
> the xc-energy, in particular for smaller spheres. I used IFFT 5 (instead of
> the default 2) in case.in0
>
> I attach some plots.
>
>
> Am 07.09.2010 04:58, schrieb Natalie Holzwarth:
> > Dear Wien2k mailing list,
> >   For many years, we have been using the wien2k code as a standard for
> > comparing our PAW calculations.   Recently, we noticed some difficulties
> > particularly with GGA calculations.  The attached example is for Sc in an
> > fcc structure using what we think are well converged parameters
> > (RMT*KMAX=9, GMAX=14, 16x16x16 kpoints).  We calculate the total energy
> > versus lattice constant both for lda and gga varying RMT to make sure that
> > there is no sensitivity to the linear LAPW/APW parameters.  RMT = 2.0,
> > 1.6, and 1.5 for lda/gga, lda1/gga1, and lda2/gga2, respectively.  The
> > binding energy curves are identical for the 3 lda calculations.  But for
> > the gga calculations, there seems to be a very strange discontinuity at
> > the lattice constant of 9.0 which is very sensitive to the choice of RMT.
> > The Sc.in1 file that we used for gga is attached and was obtained from
> > running lstart.  Of course I will be very embarrassed if there is a typo
> > in our files, but we have not been able to discover it for several days.
> > Any advice will be very much appreciated.Thanks, kindly,
> >  Natalie Holzwarth
> >
> > N. A. W. Holzwarth  email: natalie at wfu.edu
> > Department of Physics   www: http://www.wfu.edu/~natalie
> > Wake Forest University  voice: 336-758-5510
> > Winston-Salem, NC 27109-7507fax: 336-758-6142
> > U. S. A.
> >
> >
> >
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>
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>
>P.Blaha
> --
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> Phone: +43-1-58801-15671 FAX: +43-1-58801-15698
> Email: blaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.atWWW: 
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>

N. A. W. Holzwarth  email: natalie at wfu.edu
Department of Physics   www: http://www.wfu.edu/~natalie
Wake Forest University  voice: 336-758-5510
Winston-Salem, NC 27109-7507fax: 336-758-6142
U. S. A.