[Wien] Bader Analysis for charge transfer

2013-06-27 Thread alpa dashora
Dear Wien2k  users,

I am trying to analyse charge transfer in DyAl2. I ran the AIM program, the
case.inaim and case.outputaim are as follows:

*case1:*
*case.inaim*

SURF
1
20 0.0 1.5707963267949
20 0.7853980 2.35619
0.07 0.8 4
1.65 0.1
3 3 3
IRHO
WEIT
30
END

*Case.outputaim*

RHOINTE (Quadrature)0.3870539: VOLUME   123.720711

RHTOT for IND-ATOM   1Z=66.0   CHARGE: 65.01531973   0.98468027

it shows charge transfer of 0.98468027 e-

*in case 2:*
in case.inaim, in 2nd line I replaced 1 by 3 (for Al)

*case.outputaim*

RHOINTE (Quadrature)1.05493994: VOLUME   109.659051

RHTOT for IND-ATOM   3Z=13.0   CHARGE: 13.08344247   -0.08344247


The results shows that the charge transfer is from Dy to Al. The the total
charge transfer is not zero.

Is these results are correct or not?

Kindly help me to understand these results. Structure file is also enclosed
herewith.

With regards,


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Re: [Wien] Bader Analysis for charge transfer

2013-06-27 Thread Peter Blaha

Are you sure that the that and phi meshes are ok ??

 20 0.0 1.5707963267949
 20 0.7853980 2.35619

In particular phi looks very special (can be ok for a certain 
site-symmetry), but is dangerous, if you do not understand the meaning.


Without symmetry, theta should run from 0-pi and phi from 0-2pi

If you have eg. a mirror-plane normal to z at the corresponding atomic 
site (check outputs) you can restrict theta to pi/2. Note, this can be 
different for different atoms in your cell.


In addition, check the 20. It might be too low, but should not lead to 
such large errors.


Make sure your density is well converged (RKmax). Otherwise 
discontinuities at RMT could produce wrong integration basins.


And finally: in rare cases, non-nuclear maxima could occur, so that some 
charge is in a basin (atomic region) where no atom is located...


On 06/27/2013 08:49 AM, alpa dashora wrote:

Dear Wien2k  users,

I am trying to analyse charge transfer in DyAl2. I ran the AIM program,
the case.inaim and case.outputaim are as follows:

*case1:*
_case.inaim_

SURF
1
20 0.0 1.5707963267949
20 0.7853980 2.35619
0.07 0.8 4
1.65 0.1
3 3 3
IRHO
WEIT
30
END

_Case.outputaim_

RHOINTE (Quadrature)0.3870539: VOLUME   123.720711

RHTOT for IND-ATOM   1Z=66.0   CHARGE: 65.01531973   0.98468027

it shows charge transfer of 0.98468027 e-

*in case 2:*
in case.inaim, in 2nd line I replaced 1 by 3 (for Al)

_case.outputaim_

RHOINTE (Quadrature)1.05493994: VOLUME   109.659051

RHTOT for IND-ATOM   3Z=13.0   CHARGE: 13.08344247   -0.08344247


The results shows that the charge transfer is from Dy to Al. The the
total charge transfer is not zero.

Is these results are correct or not?

Kindly help me to understand these results. Structure file is also
enclosed herewith.

With regards,


--
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Re: [Wien] Bader Analysis for charge transfer

2013-06-27 Thread alpa dashora
Dear prof. Blaha,

Thank you for your reply. Now it is essay for me to understand the input
file.

I have used the value of theta as 0-pi and phi as 0-2pi. I also used the
different values of ntheta and nphi as 40 and 60 (in two separate run ).

The calculated charge transfer is as follows:

for Gd: Z=66.0 CHARGE: 65.06579522   0.93420478
for Al   Z=13.0 CHARGE: 13.46671803  -0.46671803

The results shows that the 0.934 electrons from Gd are transferred to 2 Al
atoms (0.467 on each atom).

Now the charge is converge. Please suggest, these results are alright or
not?

for the different values of ntheta and nphi (40 and 60), no significant
change in charge transfer is observed.

thanks in advance.




On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Peter Blaha
pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.atwrote:

 Are you sure that the that and phi meshes are ok ??


  20 0.0 1.5707963267949
  20 0.7853980 2.35619

 In particular phi looks very special (can be ok for a certain
 site-symmetry), but is dangerous, if you do not understand the meaning.

 Without symmetry, theta should run from 0-pi and phi from 0-2pi

 If you have eg. a mirror-plane normal to z at the corresponding atomic
 site (check outputs) you can restrict theta to pi/2. Note, this can be
 different for different atoms in your cell.

 In addition, check the 20. It might be too low, but should not lead to
 such large errors.

 Make sure your density is well converged (RKmax). Otherwise
 discontinuities at RMT could produce wrong integration basins.

 And finally: in rare cases, non-nuclear maxima could occur, so that some
 charge is in a basin (atomic region) where no atom is located...


 On 06/27/2013 08:49 AM, alpa dashora wrote:

 Dear Wien2k  users,

 I am trying to analyse charge transfer in DyAl2. I ran the AIM program,
 the case.inaim and case.outputaim are as follows:

 *case1:*
 _case.inaim_


 SURF
 1
 20 0.0 1.5707963267949
 20 0.7853980 2.35619
 0.07 0.8 4
 1.65 0.1
 3 3 3
 IRHO
 WEIT
 30
 END

 _Case.outputaim_


 RHOINTE (Quadrature)0.3870539: VOLUME   123.720711

 RHTOT for IND-ATOM   1Z=66.0   CHARGE: 65.01531973
 0.98468027

 it shows charge transfer of 0.98468027 e-

 *in case 2:*

 in case.inaim, in 2nd line I replaced 1 by 3 (for Al)

 _case.outputaim_


 RHOINTE (Quadrature)1.05493994: VOLUME   109.659051

 RHTOT for IND-ATOM   3Z=13.0   CHARGE: 13.08344247
 -0.08344247


 The results shows that the charge transfer is from Dy to Al. The the
 total charge transfer is not zero.

 Is these results are correct or not?

 Kindly help me to understand these results. Structure file is also
 enclosed herewith.

 With regards,


 --
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Re: [Wien] Bader Analysis for charge transfer

2013-06-27 Thread Peter Blaha

Probably ok. At least they look consistent.

On 06/27/2013 11:21 AM, alpa dashora wrote:

Dear prof. Blaha,

Thank you for your reply. Now it is essay for me to understand the input
file.

I have used the value of theta as 0-pi and phi as 0-2pi. I also used the
different values of ntheta and nphi as 40 and 60 (in two separate run ).

The calculated charge transfer is as follows:

for Gd: Z=66.0 CHARGE: 65.06579522   0.93420478
for Al   Z=13.0 CHARGE: 13.46671803  -0.46671803

The results shows that the 0.934 electrons from Gd are transferred to 2
Al atoms (0.467 on each atom).

Now the charge is converge. Please suggest, these results are alright or
not?

for the different values of ntheta and nphi (40 and 60), no significant
change in charge transfer is observed.

thanks in advance.




On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Peter Blaha
pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at mailto:pbl...@theochem.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

Are you sure that the that and phi meshes are ok ??


  20 0.0 1.5707963267949
  20 0.7853980 2.35619

In particular phi looks very special (can be ok for a certain
site-symmetry), but is dangerous, if you do not understand the meaning.

Without symmetry, theta should run from 0-pi and phi from 0-2pi

If you have eg. a mirror-plane normal to z at the corresponding
atomic site (check outputs) you can restrict theta to pi/2. Note,
this can be different for different atoms in your cell.

In addition, check the 20. It might be too low, but should not
lead to such large errors.

Make sure your density is well converged (RKmax). Otherwise
discontinuities at RMT could produce wrong integration basins.

And finally: in rare cases, non-nuclear maxima could occur, so that
some charge is in a basin (atomic region) where no atom is
located...


On 06/27/2013 08:49 AM, alpa dashora wrote:

Dear Wien2k  users,

I am trying to analyse charge transfer in DyAl2. I ran the AIM
program,
the case.inaim and case.outputaim are as follows:

*case1:*
_case.inaim_


SURF
1
20 0.0 1.5707963267949
20 0.7853980 2.35619
0.07 0.8 4
1.65 0.1
3 3 3
IRHO
WEIT
30
END

_Case.outputaim_


RHOINTE (Quadrature)0.3870539: VOLUME   123.720711

RHTOT for IND-ATOM   1Z=66.0   CHARGE: 65.01531973
0.98468027

it shows charge transfer of 0.98468027 e-

*in case 2:*

in case.inaim, in 2nd line I replaced 1 by 3 (for Al)

_case.outputaim_


RHOINTE (Quadrature)1.05493994: VOLUME   109.659051

RHTOT for IND-ATOM   3Z=13.0   CHARGE: 13.08344247
-0.08344247


The results shows that the charge transfer is from Dy to Al. The the
total charge transfer is not zero.

Is these results are correct or not?

Kindly help me to understand these results. Structure file is also
enclosed herewith.

With regards,


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