Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Ali Baghizhadeh
Dear Prof. Marc
I will send these files once i'll be connected. Thank you very much.
Best regards
Ali

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I mean :ENE

Please send me directly (and maybe Peter) your final case.scfm file and also 
case.struct, or provide a link. You keep on providing incomplete information so 
we have no real idea -- we are guessing (I am for certain).

For instance, the composition you write of (Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3 is not AFM except 
in a large supercell as it contains an extra 0.05Lu beyond the stoichiometric 
(Lu0.5Sc0.5)3+ Fe3+ (O2-)3.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:20 AM Ali Baghizhadeh 
mailto:ali.baghizha...@ua.pt>> wrote:
Dear Prof. Marc
Do you mean by “ENERGY”, the total energy? (like grepline :ENE “case.scf” 1)
Bascially the total energy conerges well and quick.
For Lu: it is not magnetic and MMI of Lu is zero. When there is net magnetic 
moment, it goes to oxygen ions.
I will try my next run with more realistic cc and ec, thank you.
Best regards
Ali


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Subject: Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

Which energy is lower? The lower energy is more correct.

N.B., is the Lu magnetic? Did you ever pay attention to this?
N.N.B., your -cc and -ec values are too small for reality.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:00 AM Ali Baghizhadeh 
mailto:ali.baghizha...@ua.pt>> wrote:
Dear WIEN2k users

I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3, with Fe 
spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so net zero magnetic 
moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.
However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to some 
values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run, only if the 
charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge convergence, I may face net 
magnetic moment.
A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:

1-  Coverge scf: runsp_lapw –p –fc 1 –ec 0.1 –cc 0.1  (result: MMT= 
0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).

2-  min –I –j “runsp_lapw –p –I –i 120 –cc 0.1 –fc 2” (also tried fc=5 
and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)
I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am missing 
something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text “Optimization-Notes”, mentioned 
that for spin polarized cases, force minimization may need more care.

* I did not see any warning in scf files.

Best regards and thank you.
Ali

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Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Laurence Marks
I mean :ENE

Please send me directly (and maybe Peter) your final case.scfm file and
also case.struct, or provide a link. You keep on providing incomplete
information so we have no real idea -- we are guessing (I am for certain).

For instance, the composition you write of (Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3 is not AFM
except in a large supercell as it contains an extra 0.05Lu beyond the
stoichiometric (Lu0.5Sc0.5)3+ Fe3+ (O2-)3.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:20 AM Ali Baghizhadeh 
wrote:

> Dear Prof. Marc
>
> Do you mean by “ENERGY”, the total energy? (like grepline :ENE “case.scf”
> 1)
>
> Bascially the total energy conerges well and quick.
>
> For Lu: it is not magnetic and MMI of Lu is zero. When there is net
> magnetic moment, it goes to oxygen ions.
>
> I will try my next run with more realistic cc and ec, thank you.
>
> Best regards
>
> Ali
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Wien [mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] *On Behalf
> Of *Laurence Marks
> *Sent:* Friday, 13 March 2020 16:09
> *To:* A Mailing list for WIEN2k users 
> *Subject:* Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment
>
>
>
> Which energy is lower? The lower energy is more correct.
>
>
>
> N.B., is the Lu magnetic? Did you ever pay attention to this?
>
> N.N.B., your -cc and -ec values are too small for reality.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:00 AM Ali Baghizhadeh 
> wrote:
>
> Dear WIEN2k users
>
>
>
> I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3, with
> Fe spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so net zero
> magnetic moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.
>
> However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to some
> values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run, only if
> the charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge convergence, I may face
> net magnetic moment.
>
> A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:
>
> 1-  Coverge scf: runsp_lapw –p –fc 1 –ec 0.1 –cc 0.1  (result:
> MMT= 0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).
>
> 2-  min –I –j “runsp_lapw –p –I –i 120 –cc 0.1 –fc 2” (also tried
> fc=5 and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)
>
> I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am missing
> something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text “Optimization-Notes”,
> mentioned that for spin polarized cases, force minimization may need more
> care.
>
>
>
> * I did not see any warning in scf files.
>
>
>
> Best regards and thank you.
>
> Ali
>
>
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Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Ali Baghizhadeh
Dear Prof. Blaha

For oxygen ions there are some moments that I do not understand it. Without 
force minimization, net moments is zero.

MMT: 0.94

:MMI001: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   1=0.00070  (Lu1)

:MMI002: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   2=0.00769 (Sc1)

:MMI003: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   3=0.00593 (Sc2)

:MMI004: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   4=   -0.00353 (Lu2)

:MMI005: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   5=3.78782 (Fe1)

:MMI006: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   6=   -0.05026 (O)

:MMI007: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   7=0.08167(O)

:MMI008: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   8=   -0.12328(O)

:MMI009: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   9=0.14614(O)

:MMI010: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  10=   -0.31444(O)

:MMI011: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  11=0.34985(O)

:MMI012: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  12=   -0.33067(O)

:MMI013: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  13=0.36226(O)

:MMI014: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  14=   -3.59472  (Fe2)

Best regards
Ali


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From: Wien [mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] On Behalf Of Peter 
Blaha
Sent: Friday, 13 March 2020 16:21
To: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Subject: Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment



I don't understand:

  MMT= 0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915



How can a moment of +3.6 and -0.35 cancel to almost zero moment in the cell ??

There must be some other atoms carrying a sizable moment.



or  MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472 these 2 Fe moments nearly cancel, 
bu you have a large MMT  ???



Check the other moments. And if you stated those atoms with FM moments (Lu, Sc, 
O), redo the calculations with either zero or AFM moments for these atoms.



On 3/13/20 3:59 PM, Ali Baghizhadeh wrote:

> Dear WIEN2k users

>

> I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3,

> with Fe spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so

> net zero magnetic moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.

>

> However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to

> some values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run,

> only if the charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge

> convergence, I may face net magnetic moment.

>

> A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:

>

> 1-Coverge scf: runsp_lapw -p -fc 1 -ec 0.1 -cc 0.1 (result:

> MMT= 0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).

>

> 2-min -I -j "runsp_lapw -p -I -i 120 -cc 0.1 -fc 2" (also tried

> fc=5 and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)

>

> I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am

> missing something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text

> "Optimization-Notes", mentioned that for spin polarized cases, force

> minimization may need more care.

>

> * I did not see any warning in scf files.

>

> Best regards and thank you.

>

> Ali

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Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Peter Blaha

I don't understand:
 MMT= 0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915

How can a moment of +3.6 and -0.35 cancel to almost zero moment in the 
cell ??

There must be some other atoms carrying a sizable moment.

or  MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472
these 2 Fe moments nearly cancel, bu you have a large MMT  ???

Check the other moments. And if you stated those atoms with FM moments 
(Lu, Sc, O), redo the calculations with either zero or AFM moments for 
these atoms.


On 3/13/20 3:59 PM, Ali Baghizhadeh wrote:

Dear WIEN2k users

I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3, 
with Fe spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so net 
zero magnetic moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.


However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to 
some values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run, 
only if the charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge convergence, 
I may face net magnetic moment.


A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:

1-Coverge scf: runsp_lapw –p –fc 1 –ec 0.1 –cc 0.1 (result: MMT= 
0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).


2-min –I –j “runsp_lapw –p –I –i 120 –cc 0.1 –fc 2” (also tried fc=5 
and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)


I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am missing 
something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text “Optimization-Notes”, 
mentioned that for spin polarized cases, force minimization may need 
more care.


* I did not see any warning in scf files.

Best regards and thank you.

Ali


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Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Ali Baghizhadeh
Dear Prof. Marc
Do you mean by “ENERGY”, the total energy? (like grepline :ENE “case.scf” 1)
Bascially the total energy conerges well and quick.
For Lu: it is not magnetic and MMI of Lu is zero. When there is net magnetic 
moment, it goes to oxygen ions.
I will try my next run with more realistic cc and ec, thank you.
Best regards
Ali


From: Wien [mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] On Behalf Of 
Laurence Marks
Sent: Friday, 13 March 2020 16:09
To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users 
Subject: Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

Which energy is lower? The lower energy is more correct.

N.B., is the Lu magnetic? Did you ever pay attention to this?
N.N.B., your -cc and -ec values are too small for reality.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:00 AM Ali Baghizhadeh 
mailto:ali.baghizha...@ua.pt>> wrote:
Dear WIEN2k users

I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3, with Fe 
spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so net zero magnetic 
moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.
However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to some 
values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run, only if the 
charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge convergence, I may face net 
magnetic moment.
A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:

1-  Coverge scf: runsp_lapw –p –fc 1 –ec 0.1 –cc 0.1  (result: MMT= 
0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).

2-  min –I –j “runsp_lapw –p –I –i 120 –cc 0.1 –fc 2” (also tried fc=5 
and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)
I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am missing 
something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text “Optimization-Notes”, mentioned 
that for spin polarized cases, force minimization may need more care.

* I did not see any warning in scf files.

Best regards and thank you.
Ali

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Re: [Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Laurence Marks
Which energy is lower? The lower energy is more correct.

N.B., is the Lu magnetic? Did you ever pay attention to this?
N.N.B., your -cc and -ec values are too small for reality.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 10:00 AM Ali Baghizhadeh 
wrote:

> Dear WIEN2k users
>
>
>
> I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3, with
> Fe spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so net zero
> magnetic moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.
>
> However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to some
> values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run, only if
> the charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge convergence, I may face
> net magnetic moment.
>
> A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:
>
> 1-  Coverge scf: runsp_lapw –p –fc 1 –ec 0.1 –cc 0.1  (result:
> MMT= 0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).
>
> 2-  min –I –j “runsp_lapw –p –I –i 120 –cc 0.1 –fc 2” (also tried
> fc=5 and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)
>
> I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am missing
> something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text “Optimization-Notes”,
> mentioned that for spin polarized cases, force minimization may need more
> care.
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> * I did not see any warning in scf files.
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[Wien] Force minimization, net magnetic moment

2020-03-13 Thread Ali Baghizhadeh
Dear WIEN2k users

I am running force minimization on my structure, h-(Lu0.5Sc0.5)FeO3, with Fe 
spins up (Fe1) and down (Fe2) in two alternative planes (so net zero magnetic 
moment in unit cell), WIEN2k_19.1, RKMAx:7.
However whatever criteria I am using, the net magnetic moment goes to some 
values around 1 once I run force minimization. In normal scf run, only if the 
charge criteria is low like 0.001 or no charge convergence, I may face net 
magnetic moment.
A typical procedure of force minimization is like this:

1-  Coverge scf: runsp_lapw -p -fc 1 -ec 0.1 -cc 0.1  (result: MMT= 
0.00184, MMI: Fe1=3.63779, Fe2=-0.35915).

2-  min -I -j "runsp_lapw -p -I -i 120 -cc 0.1 -fc 2" (also tried fc=5 
and 1), (result: MMT= 0.95, MMI: Fe1=3.78782, Fe2=-3.59472)
I would like to know weather I am running wrong commands or I am missing 
something else, as Lawrence Mark in his text "Optimization-Notes", mentioned 
that for spin polarized cases, force minimization may need more care.

* I did not see any warning in scf files.

Best regards and thank you.
Ali

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[Wien] force minimization

2012-04-08 Thread Laurence Marks
Sorry, no idea. If it worked, then ignore it. Did it occur just once,
or many times?

If you see this type of message many times there could be some issues
with your cluster. Do a google search on failed to map segment from
shared object:Cannot allocate memory and you will find that this is
common. However, you need someone with sysadmin experience to help go
further to understand by looking in the system logs (debugging a
cluster is well beyond my expertise and beyond this list).

On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Yundi Quan quanyundi at gmail.com wrote:
 I am running WIEN2k on a cluster. I requested 32 cores and 32 G
 memory. I tried to do structure minimization by changing the case.inm
 into MSR1a (updating both structure and electron density at the same
 time). The program can run without any error message. However, in the
 output files, it says that:
 /WIEN2k_11/pairhess: error while loading shared libraries:
 libmkl_intel_thread.so: failed to map segment from shared object:
 Cannot allocate memory


 I can still get a minimized structure though. I just want to know what
 prompted this message.
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[Wien] force minimization method change from PORT to NEWT

2010-11-03 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear wien2k users,

   We have started force minimization of a material
by using PORT minimization method. After 1st SCF it was displayed that the
force is not converged. Although charge and energy were converged upto ~
0.005 in this 1st SCF. We then edit the case.inM file *to change PORT
minimization method in NEWT minimization method*. We use the command *min
-NI -j 'runsp_lapw -I -i 40 -fc 1.0 '* . We have used the -NI switch as we
want to start our calculation from the converged charge density as obtained
in 1st SCF (with PORT miniization method). Now my question is ::

(1) Should we start from the scratch (i.e not using -NI switch) when we
change the PORT to NEWT?

(2) If it happen that initially some structure say case_1.struct,
case_2.struct, case_3.struct are obtained through PORT method and then the
calculation get stopped due to not getting the convergence of
force,.then should we use -NI switch if we change PORT to NEWT?

Any response will be very helpful for us. Thanks in advance.

with best regards,



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[Wien] force minimization

2010-02-14 Thread shamik chakrabarti
Dear Peter Blaha Sir,

  Thank you very much for your reply and suggestion.

regards,
Shamik Chakrabarti

On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Peter Blaha
pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.atwrote:

 Just continue with

 min_lapw -NI 

 The -NI switch /no initialization will continue the minimization.

 It will also continue the interrupted scf cycle (only the broyden files
 will be removed
 automatically).

 shamik chakrabarti schrieb:

 Dear Peter Blaha Sir and Wien2k users,

  I was
 running the force minimization for a structure. Now due to power failure we
 have to stop the programme at the stage when it had already calculated force
 for two structures and was calculating for the third structure. My question
 is:

*What we should do to run the calculation from where it was
 stoped? *

 if we rename the case_3.struct to case.struct and run force minimization
 again then probably we can save the time a bit but then we lost the SCF
 calculation for the 3rd structure!

 Thanks in advance.

 regards,

 Shamik Chakrabarti


 

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[Wien] force minimization

2010-02-13 Thread Peter Blaha
Just continue with

min_lapw -NI 

The -NI switch /no initialization will continue the minimization.

It will also continue the interrupted scf cycle (only the broyden files will be 
removed
automatically).

shamik chakrabarti schrieb:
 Dear Peter Blaha Sir and Wien2k users,
 

 I was running the force minimization for 
 a structure. Now due to power failure we have to stop the programme at 
 the stage when it had already calculated force for two structures and 
 was calculating for the third structure. My question is:
 
 *What we should do to run the calculation from where it was 
 stoped? *
 
 if we rename the case_3.struct to case.struct and run force minimization 
 again then probably we can save the time a bit but then we lost the SCF 
 calculation for the 3rd structure!
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 regards,
 
 Shamik Chakrabarti
 
 
 
 
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