[Wien] mini Position

2012-11-05 Thread Karima Karim
I calculated the mini position of pro2 Phase Orthorhombic .at the end of the 
calculation
I have found in the fichie the mini error: Stop in MiNI, FORCES Small

So what are normal
? What is it
es that this is a problem yes or no
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[Wien] mini Position

2012-11-05 Thread Stefaan Cottenier

 I have found in the fichie the mini error: Stop in MiNI, FORCES Small

It is the purpose of mini to make the forces small, so you get what you 
want. This message means the optimization has successfully finished.

Stefaan




[Wien] mini. position

2010-06-28 Thread Peter Blaha
It is not really clear what exactly you did, but definitely you did lot of
handwork without knowing the details.

RKmax =5.5 is probably a bit small for 3d elements.

Compare the two lines:   One says partial forces, the other one total 
forces.
Partial forces are incomplete and only used during scf to monitor 
scf-convergence.
With the switch -fc xx, it will switch in the last scf to total forces.
(You did read the UG ?)

 :FOR002:   2.ATOM115.334 96.375 63.354 
 -0.024 partial forces
 --
 
 
 ---FeZn35_relax.scf_mini 
 --
:FOR002:   2.ATOM 10.382  8.314  
 6.217 -0.053 total forces
 ---
 
 I read the UG and notice that the case.scf_mini can be used to monitor 
 the relaxtion process and the above value in case.scf_mini shows there 
 comes to one relax structure. While the case.scf file shows the process 
 of self-consistent of one structure. However, there should not be such a 
 huge difference between the two files of the force on the same atom.

With which command did you produce case.scf_mini, such that it contains only
one result and stopped with large forces ???

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[Wien] mini. position

2010-06-28 Thread Bin Shao
Thank you for your kindly reply. I'm very sorry for my misunderstanding the
meaning of partial forces and total forces.

Actually, I did the calculation with the command min -j 'runsp_lapw -p -I
-i 100 -fc 1.0 -orb '  by setting RKmax = 5.5 and it contained five results
and finished successfully. Then I did a regular calculation by setting RKmax
= 7 (default) and the result shows a large partial forces on the same atom
in case.scf. Since I misunderstood the meaning of partial forces and total
forces, I think, maybe there came some problems.

Now I have another question. In your reply, you said With the switch -fc
xx, it will switch in the last scf to total forces.. How can I get the
total forces in my regular calculation? Need I do another scf calculation by
adding -fc xx?

PS: The command I used for the regular calculation is runsp_lapw -it0 -p -i
100 -ec 0.01 -NI -orb.

Thank you in advance.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Peter Blaha
pblaha at theochem.tuwien.ac.atwrote:

 It is not really clear what exactly you did, but definitely you did lot of
 handwork without knowing the details.

 RKmax =5.5 is probably a bit small for 3d elements.

 Compare the two lines:   One says partial forces, the other one total
 forces.
 Partial forces are incomplete and only used during scf to monitor
 scf-convergence.
 With the switch -fc xx, it will switch in the last scf to total forces.
 (You did read the UG ?)


  :FOR002:   2.ATOM115.334 96.375 63.354
 -0.024 partial forces

 --


 ---FeZn35_relax.scf_mini
 --
   :FOR002:   2.ATOM 10.382  8.314  6.217
   -0.053 total forces

 ---

 I read the UG and notice that the case.scf_mini can be used to monitor the
 relaxtion process and the above value in case.scf_mini shows there comes to
 one relax structure. While the case.scf file shows the process of
 self-consistent of one structure. However, there should not be such a huge
 difference between the two files of the force on the same atom.


 With which command did you produce case.scf_mini, such that it contains
 only
 one result and stopped with large forces ???

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[Wien] mini. position

2010-06-28 Thread Peter Blaha

 Now I have another question. In your reply, you said With the switch 
 -fc xx, it will switch in the last scf to total forces.. How can I 
 get the total forces in my regular calculation? Need I do another scf 
 calculation by adding -fc xx?

Just continue with:

runsp_lapw -it0 -p -i 100 -fc 1 -NI -orb.

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[Wien] mini. position

2010-06-26 Thread Bin Shao
Dear wien2k users,

I am running wien version 9.2 on a machine of type cluster with operating
system Centos 5.4, fortran compiler ifort and math libraries intel mkl.

The purpose of my calculations is to relax the system of diluted metal -
FeZn35. I used the function of mini. postion. In order to getting a quick
calculation, I set the RMT*KMAX = 5.5 following the suggestion in optimize
note for d electron and the kpoints = 1000. The job finished successfully.
Then I used the relax structure to do a regular calculation, setting the
RMAX = 7.0 and the kpoints 11x11x11. But the result shows the FORCE is still
large, not  2 mRy/a.u. What's the problem?

Now I did another relaxtion, by setting the RMAX = 6.0 and kpoints still
equals 1000. I find there is something different between the file
FeZn35_relax.scf and FeZn35_relax.scf_mini

---FeZn35_relax.scf
:FOR002:   2.ATOM 55.376 45.633 31.372
0.068 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM 67.590 56.196 37.556
0.052 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM 73.927 61.579 40.906
0.023 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM125.826105.571 68.460
-0.112 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM132.626111.224 72.242
-0.082 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM136.570114.077 75.085
0.012 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM133.440111.171 73.806
-0.016 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM128.884107.276 71.434
-0.027 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM126.989105.807 70.221
-0.026 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM124.793104.020 68.941
-0.019 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM120.540100.665 66.306
-0.014 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM117.034 97.726 64.394
-0.027 partial forces
:FOR002:   2.ATOM115.334 96.375 63.354
-0.024 partial forces
--


---FeZn35_relax.scf_mini
--
   :FOR002:   2.ATOM 10.382  8.314
6.217 -0.053 total forces
---

I read the UG and notice that the case.scf_mini can be used to monitor the
relaxtion process and the above value in case.scf_mini shows there comes to
one relax structure. While the case.scf file shows the process of
self-consistent of one structure. However, there should not be such a huge
difference between the two files of the force on the same atom.

Any suggestion will be appriciated. Thank you in advanced!

Best regards,

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College of Information Technical Science, Nankai University
94 Weijin Rd. Nankai Dist. Tianjin 300071, China
Email: binshao1118 at gmail.com
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